purplelady:

You norther guys keep talking about a few southerners been killed, is it right for a single southerner to die. Corp members that have struggle their way through school with community fund just been wasted by some illiterate Alimajiri. You are saying the south is being brainwashed. A child the parent are wanting for to come lift the financial burden on them after NYSC.4 or 5 years of the parents denying themselves of a lot to train these innocent corp members is now wasted.No a single northerner have been touched in the south, am sure you people see us as fools.
Go and build your groundnut pyramid, am sure that will keep your lazy beggars busy.

To answer your question, NO it is not justifiable to kill any innocent person! a corps member should not be targeted. That being said, I must also point out two things,1, that the corpers were accused of being pdp agents and helping pdp rig elections. 2, the corpers killed were a very tiny percentage of the people that got killed in the riots but for reasons related to brainwashing and deceiving southerners, the news carriers gave you a tainted one sided story that focused on the corpers just to whip up sentiment. Go to saharareporters and you'll see pictures of northern elite and big wigs homes and property burned to the ground. Most of the people killed were northerners who were suspected of being pdp members or loyalists. You people are acting as if its amargeddon, of the millions upon millions of southerners that live in the north, how many were killed in the riots?? How many people died in the riots??was it not 50 people, and 80% of these 50 people were northerners and you want to scream as if some northerner dropped a nuclear bomb in lagos and PH.

My problem with some southerners is they brag about their so called education but are easily brainwashed and hood winked and made to believe garbage without questioning anything. Most southerners know very little about the north, very very shockingly little yet they talk as if nobody knows the region like them. Its both funny and sad. Blowing something out of proportion is either propaganda or sheer unlimited foolishness! God bless the souls of the departed. You people dont even get what the riots were about, they were about ELECTION RIGGING BY THE THIEVING PDP. Some people are distracting themselves with north south division, thats how people are made slaves. While the "big man" is carting away your money, you're wasting your time talking about northerners. Fool. Divide the heads of the common men and rule over them easily. Thats what is happening, you're accepting illegality because of sentiment!! you dont realize PDP is just cheating you and their agents like beaf are making you think north this north that. Africans are such fools.

gadogado:

Southerners, xtians were an uber minority in the total casualty that accrued! If you look at it, how many igbos in sabon gari kano or kaduna south were killed. Corpers were maimed because it was believed they were PDP agents and had a hand in rigging rightly or wrongly!! Now the brunt of the damage went to northern pdp agents, see how their homes were totally destroyed! PDP rigged, burn and kill them, that was the mantra. How many southerners were actually killed, sorry to break it to you, NOT THAT MANY, VERY LITTLE. But propaganda machines are fanning your all too naive emotions.

uh huh? and all the CHURCHES burnt were also PDP campaign offices right? abeg shut your aboki mouth up and try and have a little decency for the dead. i see how you guys have conveniently ignored all the stories from some of the dead corpers and survivors of how they were forced to rig in favor of your coup plotting terrorist of a bigot general while in the same breath trying to lie through your smelly aboki mouth on how this was a riot against rigging. god punish your entire family.ewu terrorist

@gadogado.Just let these people be.I still believe that the PDP virus will die within the next 2years in a very bloody way.

@ gadogado

Just ignore the fools that cant see. The information is there to see. The days of PDP and the 'one party system' are numbered anyway,

Gadogado, please stop writing these nonesense. Am already angry, don't make it worse. It is obvious you don't having feeling for the lives lost. You are only concerned about power not returning to the North. Am from the niger delta, no light no road in my village and niger delta is responsible for 95% of this country's wealth. This is our first shot at power in the history of this country and you talking about power returning to the North. Abeg just keep shut.

Just seeing the northerners walking free down south is annoying.

@abagworo u are an imbicile and a goat if u don't have anything to say go and eat gworo because PDP didn't allow rotation so that ur kin can be president PDP was not bad when yar abua was president now GEJ is president PDP is evil!!! So the youth corppers that have come out with tales of how ur saint party CPC rigged the election your turn blind eyes to that and come hear to blab about how PDP rigged election!!! U think people are FOOLISH and DUMB like u and ur masters BB!!! People like u shout rigging by PDP without evidence while u ignore the concrete proof of rigging by CPC by corp members that escaped the CPC's almagiris foot soldiers.even from the voices of the dead corpper all are tales of how CPC rigged and forced child voters on them!!! You still with your gworo brain shouting PDP rigged!!! I thought the north claimed they have more population than the south even with your youths,old,and children voted still they couldn't beat GEJ!!! fools no wonder ur like is shouthing rigging

purplelady:

Gadogado, please stop writing these nonesense. Am already angry, don't make it worse. It is obvious you don't having feeling for the lives lost. You are only concerned about power not returning to the North. Am from the niger delta, no light no road in my village and niger delta is responsible for 95% of this country's wealth. This is our first shot at power in the history of this country and you talking about power returning to the North. Abeg just keep shut.

Just seeing the northerners walking free down south is annoying.

Blame the North for everything because according to my records, the head of NDDC is Alj. Musa Shinkafi, and below are Niger-Delta states and their governors:

1. Bayelsa              Alj. Sule Muktar
2. Delta                  Alj. Alli Mohammed
3. Akwa Ibom         Alj. Shehu Abubakar
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If you relax your mind and think deep, you will realize your real enemies.

Southerners, xtians were an uber minority in the total casualty that accrued! If you look at it, how many igbos in sabon gari kano or kaduna south were killed. Corpers were maimed because it was believed they were PDP agents and had a hand in rigging rightly or wrongly!! Now the brunt of the damage went to northern pdp agents, see how their homes were totally destroyed! PDP rigged, burn and kill them, that was the mantra. How many southerners were actually killed, sorry to break it to you, NOT THAT MANY, VERY LITTLE. But propaganda machines are fanning your all too naive emotions


Are u saying that Buhari could have won in the south?  The election was not perfect, but it could not have changed the outcome. Buhari and co thought that they were going to win without southern and middle belt votes. He was wrong. Yes, 2011 election was much better than 2007 election that ushered in Yar'dua- a northerner and there was no riot. PDP openly rigged for Yar'dua and he contested against the same Buhari -  the only "honest" politician ever created by God and northerners didn't feel short changed. This year, northerners feel that southerners voted for a wrong candidate -JEG, while southerners feel that northerners voted for a wrong candidate. This is a  democracy, sometimes, 12 fools outnumber 9 wise men!

The only thing that southerners dont understand is the thirst for southerners' blood when northerners dont like what has been served on their plate by fellow northerners! What do churches and PDP have in common?

@abagworo and other sore losers!!! Here is an eye withness report of a corpper that conducted election in the north

*Jones was invited by Aik to his own lodge so they spent their friday together. On the day of the election, they all went to their polling booths. *Jones said the people coming for acreditation in his own booth were children between the ages 10-14yrs. He wanted to object, but he was threatened. When it the time for voting came, another set of children came.this time,they were as little as 6yrs. He allowed them to vote also and then gave them the remaining ballot paper. When it was time to write the results on the sheets,they told him the figure they wanted him to write. They even told him to write the figure on the other sheets he was supposed to write on only when he got to the local govt. They followed him to the local govt to submit the result so he doesnt report or do anything. On his way back,he met Aik going to submit his & he was followd by multitude of people. He asked Aik why he was been followed & Aik said he didnt agree to do all they wanted.

Because aik refused those idiots followed him to the police station and murdered him I ask u MR GWORO the people that forced child voters on jones and aik where they PDP supports? U people turn blind eye. To the massive rigging in the north that was broadcasted in foreign and local media and you come here to scream that PDP rigged.keep fooling yourself

@gadogado,

You have submitted compelling arguments indeed, though, I must admit that I was begining to give in to sentiments due to the reported killings of some Corps members. However, after analysing your arguments, I couldn't agree more that a good number of us have fallen for the genocide propaganda from some "southerners", whom we know have always cried foul in the face of everything. They see this as a ruse to accomplish their previous failed attempt at secession. Everywhere you look, it is always the mention of an Igbo name. Are they the only ones being killed? If indeed there is an ongoing genocide, how come they have only been able to produce just a handful of names? It is always them against the world. Yes, there has been reports of some Yorubas been killed but we don't hear the noise about that.

It is just not plausible to think that these Northeners haven't suffered casualties themselves! And this nonsense about southerners being more educated is just balderdash! And even if that were so, education does not equate common sense, intelligence or wisdom! With all the southerners claim of better education, 'gadogado' has floored you all when it comes to articulating his views and been coherent. You all just need to get off your high horses! Northerners are ill educated yet we have Sanusi Lamido gracing TIMES. How many of your well learned sout

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Are u saying that Buhari could have won in the south?  The election was not perfect, but it could not have changed the outcome. Buhari and co thought that they were going to win without southern and middle belt votes. He was wrong. Yes, 2011 election was much better than 2007 election that ushered in Yar'dua- a northerner and there was no riot. PDP openly rigged for Yar'dua and he contested against the same Buhari -  the only "honest" politician ever created by God and northerners didn't feel short changed. This year, northerners feel that southerners voted for a wrong candidate -JEG, while southerners feel that northerners voted for a wrong candidate. This is a  democracy, sometimes, 12 fools outnumber 9 wise men!

The only thing that southerners dont understand is the thirst for southerners' blood when northerners dont like what has been served on their plate by fellow northerners! What do churches and PDP have in common?

GBAM!!

Gadogaga or what are you called? Answer these questions ASAP

1. Why didn't the north riot in 2007 when PDP rigged the election for Yar Adua?
2. When did churches become PDP campaign offices?
3. How many states in the south nigeria did buhari campaign that made you think southerners voted for him? Ok, he campaigned at sheraton hotel in lagos and presidential hotel in port harcourt. But is it hotel people that will cast the votes he needed to win the election? Even in the states he won, is it hotel peeps that voted for him?
3. Apart from the north, CPC doesn't have any structures in most south south\south east states. In my ward ezionum delta state, CPC didn't have agents. Ribudu's campaign train even came there. But CPC? No poster, no agent, no office, just NOTHING. How could buhari have won the election this way?
4. You are saying only a small number of southerners were killed o. That northerners were affected too. Nonsense. It doesn't matter who is affected. Call a spade a spade. WHAT IS BAD IS BAD

gadogado:

To answer your question, NO it is not justifiable to kill any innocent person! a corps member should not be targeted. That being said, I must also point out two things,1, that the corpers were accused of being pdp agents and helping pdp rig elections. 2, the corpers killed were a very tiny percentage of the people that got killed in the riots but for reasons related to brainwashing and deceiving southerners, the news carriers gave you a tainted one sided story that focused on the corpers just to whip up sentiment. Go to saharareporters and you'll see pictures of northern elite and big wigs homes and property burned to the ground. Most of the people killed were northerners who were suspected of being pdp members or loyalists. You people are acting as if its amargeddon, of the millions upon millions of southerners that live in the north, how many were killed in the riots?? How many people died in the riots??was it not 50 people, and 80% of these 50 people were northerners and you want to scream as if some northerner dropped a nuclear bomb in lagos and PH.

My problem with some southerners is they brag about their so called education but are easily brainwashed and hood winked and made to believe garbage without questioning anything. Most southerners know very little about the north, very very shockingly little yet they talk as if nobody knows the region like them. Its both funny and sad. Blowing something out of proportion is either propaganda or sheer unlimited foolishness! God bless the souls of the departed. You people dont even get what the riots were about, they were about ELECTION RIGGING BY THE THIEVING PDP. Some people are distracting themselves with north south division, thats how people are made slaves. While the "big man" is carting away your money, you're wasting your time talking about northerners. Fool. Divide the heads of the common men and rule over them easily. Thats what is happening, you're accepting illegality because of sentiment!! you dont realize PDP is just cheating you and their agents like beaf are making you think north this north that. Africans are such fools.

My friend's brother from Zaria was killed during the crises in zaria because he is a PDP man.

Funny, I always scroll past anything Jason123 writes. . . . . .

Am sure your friend's brother irf he truely was killed, he must be a christian.

THE NORTH IS FINISHED

After 50 years of direct or indirect control of the Nigerian State, the North finally has lost it forever. It will never get it back.

The only way Nigeria remains one from here on is for a southerner of middle belter to rule. Yaradua is the last northern ruler you will know in your lifetime.

The first time you could tell there was trouble for the north was when they BEGGED for zoning. How the 'mighty' fall.

The advantage from military rule and civil war has finally worn off. The post civil war southern generation have no fear in them.

No more allies for the north. Not in the S/E they have always relied on for political alliance . Not in the middle belt they have tried to dominate and suppress . Not in the S/S that they stole from. Not in the S/W that sees them as vastly inferior beasts.

Nobody fears the north any more. Northern Christians and minorities are retuning fire for fire, blood for blood. A subdued northern Nigeria is a laughing stock. The Emperor has no cloths.

RIPieces Northern Hegemony

gadogado.where are you?please come and answer this question.Are churches PDP structures?since it was the north against PDP.Please we are waiting

I would have been amused if we weren't talking about the death of people.
First they contest the number of people killed, now they insist that those killed were not exclusively southerners or Christan's, that Hausa's were involved but  no one seems to  be able to identify the dead Hausa's as you read this .
In any case the death of one man is one too many.
As for those who are buying the OP's story i really feel sorry for you guys. Be sure to have somesort of insurance benefit your family if you
feel so comfortable being up north.
A note of warning though : you do not have to do anything to provoke them your very existence, just being your southern eccentric self in is  provocation enough .

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@ Poster

Nice post. But don't ever expect people to engage in a rational argument on nairaland. Only few have that inclination here.

Gadogado, at least I like the fact that you are being open to ideas which is a sign of a "progressive".
Now, my MAIN question to you is, why must we rotate the presidency?? If we Nigerians want progress, then we should always pick the best man for the job e.g Sanusi, Fashola, Amechi, Chime et.al. Why would the North not vote for a non-muslim candidate?? The only time they did vote for a christian was OBJ and that was because the elites knew that Yorubas wanted to break away (they know that for them to break away, it must have been planned to PERFECTION!)and the Igbos are always on for secession as long as part of their kins in the SS come with them. That will lead to the total destruction of Nigeria. Hence, their political calculation was for OBJ to ascend the "throne". The same thing also happened to the SS when MEND threatened secession, they installed GEJ. Now, GEJ beat them at their game, they are crying about.
I am for Buhari, make no mistake about that because I think he is an honest man but most southerners are indeed tired of the perennial killing of southerners especially of the Igbo origin (this is since 1948 and we are in 2011  Sad Cry) and the 38 years of rule( I know that was not your fault in all honest but us southerners).

Now, if we elect people based on merit, you and I know that the North will hardly produce a leader again because the Igbos and the Yorubas will rule Nigeria. Why, they are the most educated groups in Nigeria while the North, instead of using their years of misrule rule to educate their people, they did not. If its about Ideas, you also know the South has that.

What will all this lead to? Your guess is as good as mine. The north will SURELY be marginalised in the affairs of the Nation and will start their killing or plan a coup. The country will eventually be in anarchy

Now, resource control.
I am sure ALL southern groups are up for that. The SS can have their Oil while the Yorubas and Igbos can have their oil coupled with Human resources. The north practically survives, depends and live off this oil. Hence, the thought of resource control will never be an option. We, as a people, have to learn to reduce the dependance on OIL. What if the SS secedes?? What will happen to Nigeria?? Is Nigeria going to die?? I am sure the Yorubas and Igbos will be up for the challenge but will the North be?? Do you see these issues

Corruption: In as much as I agree that corruption is a Nation-wide problem, much of it is due to the balkalisation of the South and lack of federalism hence, the people cannot hold their leaders accountable for their failure. Only the Yorubas have been able to do that. why? Because they are operating true federalism in Nigeria without the Government knowing thus, the shout of tribalism by other Nigerians especially the Igbo. They are holding and shaping their destiny by their hands. The SS is also doing the same, they have woken up and are now ready to take Nigeria by storm because they know Nigerians LOVE OIL MONEY!!! Grin
The Northern Youths are getting there but since they involved the South in their killing, their actions smells of tribalism and religious intolerance. Btw, why did the North not riiot when Yaradua(God bless his soul) was rigged in?HuhHuhHuh You see??!!! Most of the North action is driven by the greed to remain in power.

Anyway, long story short, I cannot wait for the Nigerian populace to wake up and know the truth about the Northern political elites. The Northern Educated Youths should raise up and defend their region from these cannibals such Ciroma and co before the country reaches its boiling point (that if its not so already Undecided) . The sooner, the better. Its been predicted that the country will break up 2015 but the Northern elites are accelerating that process. Why? To force a military coup and remove GEJ.

Enough said!!!!

@jason123 and gadogado,
i like intelligent discussions with objective and that is exactly what i saw going on between the two of u. permit me to intrude here. i am from imo state so i am a typical igboman. the major problem with us nigerians is the idea of shifting the posts whenever we want to score goal to suit our purposes.
democracy is the govt of the ppl by the ppl and for the ppl. when we talk rotational presidency, this is not a northern ppl's issue rather a national issue and i tell u, this idea of a rotational presidency was to make sure the northerners did not hold on to power for ever. the igbos have no population to win the presidency and the word marginalization came from us. if u talk unity and progress when one side of the country continues rulling, u will at a point know it is not true hence everybody wants to rule.
the northerners are not the problem rather the southerners. we create and bend these laws to suit our purposes. we originated the following words to seek sympathy; born to rule - this is what we call the northerners, marginalization - this is what we say of ourselves, zoning - this is when we wantedthe presidency by all means.
my brother, the first military coup in nigeria was by the igbos but the hausas stepped in and enjoyed the most of it and we began to complain. we called for this zoning issue which they acceptedin good faith now what is happening? if we condem this zoning because we want jonathan, what is the gaurranttee that we will not complain tomorrow when the power goes back to them?
obasanjo in his criminalities wanted a third term and under normal circumstances, such a criminal will die politically with his third term agenda but what do we have here? same criminal turned to be the decission maker and invissible hands in aso rock,
the northerners to me have not been acting rather they react. why will u deny them of their rights since they are also nigerians? it is annoying especially when it is an individual doing.
the big question here is, where are the igbos in the picture? ogbulafor and nwodo both of whom were the pdp chairmen saw the truth and were shown the door. jonathan had to become ebele and azikiwe to make the northerners feel happy killing the igbos.
the death of these innocent igbo traders residing in the north calls for vengance because we have been turned into victims in all aspects of this country. we benefit nothing from the politics of nigeria yet we can't have the deserved peace to do the little trading business of ours.
some will say arrest buhari, how can u arrest buhari when jonathan and all his security agents cannot arrest containers bringing in weapons into this country?
my sincere opinion here is that we the southerners shld sit back and think very well what we want so that when we make a statement, we will stand on it.

Come @ Gadogado, stop being evil if you have conscience as you said! What zoning to the North are u talking about when they have been in power since independence far much longer than att other ethnic groups put together!!! What sort of wickedness is this for goodness sake. There you are making excusses for killing people, do you think other ethnics do not have their reasons? or are the people being killed in any way connected to Buhari's loss? I'm not ethnically bigoted in any way, whoever have the right leadership qualites and is legally voted in should rule. Stop using your biased logic to get people angry here!

@Biggoozz , Even when southerners were in power they govern under the shadow of the north for fear of one thing or the other. The north has been in control even when southerners were heads of state.

What I don't like about some contributors is that their strategy is aimed at polarizing the country.They are interested in the President's ethnic group and not his performance.

Bombs went off in Maiduguri and everyone killed were Northerners.From the logic being presented by some posts here,if 2 or 3 southerners were somehow caught in the bombings,they would have termed it attack on the Igbos.

The whole issue is the fault of PDP and our ruling class who rather than presenting us with reasons to vote Jonathan were employing such terms as "they've ruled for 38 years","Buhari is an extremist","Jonathan is Igbo".

That was the reason for polarization of the election.Buhari's campaign was purely based on his record as a disciplinarian,honest man and change.They never for once mentioned North/South,Rotation or Religion.

The consequences of polarization coupled with rigging is that an illegitimate government has been produced and therefore will not be in control of the country.Every little misunderstanding will always be viewed from a tribal angle.

Shame on Nigerians for falling to this bait.

^^^

Shame on you for being a fool.

Abagworo:

What I don't like about some contributors is that their strategy is aimed at polarizing the country.They are interested in the President's ethnic group and not his performance.

Bombs went off in Maiduguri and everyone killed were Northerners.From the logic being presented by some posts here,if 2 or 3 southerners were somehow caught in the bombings,they would have termed it attack on the Igbos.

The whole issue is the fault of PDP and our ruling class who rather than presenting us with reasons to vote Jonathan were employing such terms as "they've ruled for 38 years","Buhari is an extremist","Jonathan is Igbo".

That was the reason for polarization of the election.Buhari's campaign was purely based on his record as a disciplinarian,honest man and change.They never for once mentioned North/South,Rotation or Religion.

The consequences of polarization coupled with rigging is that an illegitimate government has been produced and therefore will not be in control of the country.Every little misunderstanding will always be viewed from a tribal angle.

Shame on Nigerians for falling to this bait.

Once again, you are right!!!

Abagworo:

What I don't like about some contributors is that their strategy is aimed at polarizing the country.They are interested in the President's ethnic group and not his performance.

Bombs went off in Maiduguri and everyone killed were Northerners.From the logic being presented by some posts here,if 2 or 3 southerners were somehow caught in the bombings,they would have termed it attack on the Igbos.

The whole issue is the fault of PDP and our ruling class who rather than presenting us with reasons to vote Jonathan were employing such terms as "they've ruled for 38 years","Buhari is an extremist","Jonathan is Igbo".

That was the reason for polarization of the election.Buhari's campaign was purely based on his record as a disciplinarian,honest man and change.They never for once mentioned North/South,Rotation or Religion.

The consequences of polarization coupled with rigging is that an illegitimate government has been produced and therefore will not be in control of the country.Every little misunderstanding will always be viewed from a tribal angle.

Shame on Nigerians for falling to this bait.

You are a very smart man that does not mix the truth with tribal sentiment. It shows all Igbo's do not have this complex of tribal envy which comes across as  an inferiority complex. if someone has a differing view from them the person is termed a sellout. Stand on what you believe in, you make more sense than all your brother's trying to bully you. I hope in future you are able to help your people see things in a less selfish stand point, and look for the best interest of the country as a whole. You, Chinyere and Eziachi are the posters that make sense on this forum. Kudo's

2mch:

You are a very smart man that does not mix the truth with tribal sentiment. It shows all Igbo's do not have this complex of tribal envy which comes across as  an inferiority complex. if someone has a differing view from them the person is termed a sellout. Stand on what you believe in, you make more sense than all your brother's trying to bully you. I hope in future you are able to help your people see things in a less selfish stand point, and look for the best interest of the country as a whole. [size=14pt]You, Chinyere and Eziachi[/size] are the posters that make sense on this forum. Kudo's

It's only these three that make sense among them. The rest are suffering from severe inferiority complex.

jason123:

It's only these three that make sense among them. The rest are suffering from severe inferiority complex.

Stop using a term you know nothing about.

No Igbo feels inferior to anyone. Why do you think every Igbo man thinks of himself as a king? No king feels inferior to a common peasant.

The fact remains that Igbos need to stop thinking of themselves as superior to each other and other groups.

I have never met an Igbo who though he was inferior to anyone. Most Igbos think they can do anything better than the rest.

To be frank, many Igbos have a[b] SUPERIORITY COMPLEX.[/b] Which means an exaggerated feeling of being superior to others. That is something I will admit.

Igbos see Hausa as backwards beast of burden and Yoruba. . . I wont say.

Now stop with your absurd psychoanalysis, because it makes you look like a DUMB ARSE.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superiority_complex

maybe the north are scared that when there is a divide their illiteracy would cus the 1st Sharia Republic of Nigeria Civil war

vladimiros:

maybe the north are scared that when there is a divide their illiteracy would cus the 1st Sharia Republic of Nigeria Civil war

Yes oh. Shite vs Sunnis vs Boko Haram vs Alkaida vs Stupudity.

This is too unstable and violent to be termed a religion.

This cannot be the nature of God.