MaxInDHouse:
If religionsts in Jesus' days called him a Satanist don't worry ma we are not expecting anything else from you! Matthew 10:22-25

PrincessGlow:

Simple question: did Christ stay and dine with even the lowest of sinners - tax collectors, or not? Did He shun anybody?

PrincessGlow:


I hope u haven't totally lost it. All through the bible people say what they observe. Even christ said when u observe certain things you know the time is near. The Bible never told you to close your eyes and ears

PrincessGlow:

What has this to do with you saying something is true right after the other JW said it's a lie?

MaxInDHouse:
Christianity has not been established by the time Jesus walked the earth, but after Pentecost whoever dedicated his/her life to serve Christ but turned back to return to what he/she has vowed never to practice again is not worthy of being called one of us! Romans 16:17; 2John 1:10-11

After Christianity has been fully established, whoever turn his/her back on the teachings binding the group together as one body under the spirit {John 17:29-23} Jesus himself said he will CONDEMN! Luke 9:62

We are not talking about people who never vowed before our God but those who have vowed to worship our God after learning all the tenets and saying "i do" is not fitting to be called one of us {Ecclesiastes 5:4} so it's those who were formerly part of us that must be shunned for turning their backs on us not just everyone, otherwise how are we going to preach if we shun everyone? 1Corinthians 5:12-13

PrincessGlow:

I hope u haven't totally lost it. All through the bible people say what they observe. Even christ said when u observe certain things you know the time is near. The Bible never told you to close your eyes and ears

MaxInDHouse:
It's excommunication that sounds strange to him, but it means exactly the same with disfellowship, ask him about disfellowship which is the common language used among JWs for unrepentant wrongdoers!

MaxInDHouse:
Christianity has not been established by the time Jesus walked the earth, but after Pentecost whoever dedicated his/her life to serve Christ but turned back to return to what he/she has vowed never to practice again is not worthy of being called one of us! Romans 16:17; 2John 1:10-11

After Christianity has been fully established, whoever turn his/her back on the teachings binding the group together as one body under the spirit {John 17:29-23} Jesus himself said he will CONDEMN! Luke 9:62

We are not talking about people who never vowed before our God but those who have vowed to worship our God after learning all the tenets and saying "i do" is not fitting to be called one of us {Ecclesiastes 5:4} so it's those who were formerly part of us that must be shunned for turning their backs on us not just everyone, otherwise how are we going to preach if we shun everyone? 1Corinthians 5:12-13

PrincessGlow:

Please don't totally confuse yourself and also start lying all in the name of defending JW. Preaching and teaching are synonyms and are used interchangeably in the bible. See below

PrincessGlow:

See ignorance! You a re a follower of Christ - that's what being a Christian means. You are supposed to be following a Spirit not some law as you are trying to introduce. Think for a minute: does shunning tally with the Spirit of Christ?

MaxInDHouse:
NO Ma!
PREACHING is introducing a new kind of faith to people. TEACHING is the practical application of the new found faith.
So both are different things!

MaxInDHouse:
NO Ma!
PREACHING is introducing a new kind of faith to people. TEACHING is the practical application of the new found faith.
So both are different things!

MaxInDHouse:
Jesus himself:

No man who has put his hand to a plow and looks at the things behind is well-suited for the Kingdom of God! Luke 9:62

Apostle Paul

Now I urge you, brothers, to keep your eye on those who create divisions and causes for stumbling contrary to the teaching that you have learned, and avoid them! Romans 16:17

Apostle John

If anyone comes to you and does not bring this teaching, do not receive him into your homes or say a greeting to him. For the one who says a greeting to him is a sharer in his wicked works! 2John 1:10-11

Self explanatory Ma!

MaxInDHouse:
It's excommunication that sounds strange to him, but it means exactly the same with disfellowship, ask him about disfellowship which is the common language used among JWs for unrepentant wrongdoers!

PrincessGlow:


See ignorance! You a re a follower of Christ - that's what being a Christian means. You are supposed to be following a Spirit not some law as you are trying to introduce. Think for a minute: does shunning tally with the Spirit of Christ?

PrincessGlow:

You have finally totally confused yourself. So give examples where Christ was teaching compared to when he was preaching

PrincessGlow:


He said categorically that excommunication is quite different from disfellowship and infact went ahead to give examples why they are not even synonyms. You say the opposite. He also said JW crime are allpropaganda. You say they are humans

MaxInDHouse:
Jesus himself:

No man who has put his hand to a plow and looks at the things behind is well-suited for the Kingdom of God! Luke 9:62

Apostle Paul

Now I urge you, brothers, to keep your eye on those who create divisions and causes for stumbling contrary to the teaching that you have learned, and avoid them! Romans 16:17

Apostle John

If anyone comes to you and does not bring this teaching, do not receive him into your homes or say a greeting to him. For the one who says a greeting to him is a sharer in his wicked works! 2John 1:10-11

Self explanatory Ma!

PrincessGlow:

He said categorically that excommunication is quite different from disfellowship and infact went ahead to give examples why they are not even synonyms. You say the opposite. He also said JW crime are allpropaganda. You say they are humans

PrincessGlow:

You were asked a simple question and you keep selecting quoting. You are supposd to be following a Spirit whose hallmark is love. Does shunning tally with that Spirit? Does not bother you at all that so many people commit suicide??

MaxInDHouse:


Jesus PREACHING!

From that time on, Jesus began PREACHING and saying: “Repent, for the Kingdom of the heavens has drawn near.” Matthew 4:17

Jesus TEACHING!

Then he opened his mouth and began TEACHING them, saying: 3 “Happy are those conscious of their spiritual need, since the Kingdom of the heavens belongs to them. 4 “Happy are those who mourn, since they will be comforted. 5 “Happy are the mild-tempered, since they will inherit the earth. 6 “Happy are those hungering and thirsting for righteousness, since they will be filled. 7 “Happy are the merciful, since they will be shown mercy. 8 “Happy are the pure in heart, since they will see God. 9 “Happy are the peacemakers, since they will be called sons of God. 10 “Happy are those who have been persecuted for righteousness’ sake, since the Kingdom of the heavens belongs to them. 11 “Happy are you when people reproach you and persecute you and lyingly say every sort of wicked thing against you for my sake. 12 Rejoice and be overjoyed, since your reward is great in the heavens, for in that way they persecuted the prophets prior to you.

MaxInDHouse:
That's English language for you, but the fact remains that WE MUST NOT TALK, GREET not EAT with anyone who decides to turn his/her back in what binds us together as ONE!

Please you can now use grammar to expatiate further!

MaxInDHouse:
Judas Iscariot was their founder, Jesus gave him a label "Son of destruction" {John 17:12} so they're following his part Ma!

PrincessGlow:


Meaning what? Whose founder? Hope u haven't completely lost your mind

PrincessGlow:

Stop making a fool of yourself. When he was saying it was he saying it to an individual??

achorladey:


Perhaps making a case for those who commit suicide after being shunned since Judas too committed suicide. That is what he is trying to pass across.

What he forgot is Judas betrayed Jesus Christ while many leaving the religious organization he belongs do not and here is where he needs to respond.

PrincessGlow:

Meaning what? Whose founder? Hope u haven't completely lost your mind

MaxInDHouse:


I thought you asked for where Jesus was specifically preaching and where he was teaching!

So calm down ma!

MaxInDHouse:
Founder of those that betray the truth and eventually commit suicide!

PrincessGlow:

You said Christ only preached to individuals but taught groups! Nothing we won't hear in this forum!

MaxInDHouse:
Jesus never preached to groups!
He entered the temple where Jews come together for worship but when preaching he goes to people's homes. It's the miracles that attracts multitude so that he look for a place to sit them down and begin TEACHING not PREACHING to them!

PrincessGlow:

Wrong! JI committed suicide out of guilt not because he was shunned by anybody. Once again how does shunning tally with the SPIRIT you claim to be following?

PrincessGlow:


Wrong! JI committed suicide out of guilt not because he was shunned by anybody. Once again how does shunning tally with the SPIRIT you claim to be following?