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Re: The Banner On A Ship Carrying Jewish Refugees To Palestine In 1947 by Deejay777(m): 8:35pm On May 16, 2021
ReubenE:
Egypt and and the Arab league is largely responsible for the ordeal the Palestinians are facing...
Those lands were not stolen, majority was acquired through conquest after the Arab-Israeli wars

Israel only expanded its grip on Palestinian lands (formally a British mandate) after the defeat of the Arab coalition in 1948 and 1967.

If the Arab league had allowed reason to prevail when the UN Resolution partitioned that land to Two States (Jewish State of Israel, and Arab State of Palestine) in 1947, perhaps by now, Palestine would have been a thriving country on their own with her own army.

But Egypt and the Arab coalition felt Israel was too small and feeble. Egyptian Generals even boasted that a war with Israel would be like a parade from Cairo to Tel Aviv, that Tel Aviv would be overtaken in two weeks.
They opposed the UN Resolution for Two-State Solution by invading Israel, a battle they lost.
Israel ceased more lands far more than what was given to her by the UN after the war. Can Israel be blamed for doing this? The answer is No, the the land is a war bounty.

Syria lost the control of Golan Heights, Jordan lost the West Bank, Egypt lost the Gaza Strip after the 6 days war (3rd Arab war with Israel) in 1967.
Israel obviously and overwhelmingly won the war and consolidated its grip on Palestine.
Can Israel be blamed for controlling a land they conquered through war? No, cause in war, everything is fair.

The Two-State solution the Palestinians and the Arab League opposed vehemently in 1947, is what they are now clamoring for, but unfortunately, Israel and her western allies especially the US is no longer keen on doing that.

One very important fact to note is that, no country is a good country in the International System of power play.
Palestine would do the same to Israel if she finds herself in that position because international politics is always about National Interest.

Russia has been annexing Ukrainian lands (Crimea, Sevastopol etc), Russia has been making attempts to annex Georgia, Turkey has been muscling Armenia etc. No country is a good country, it is always about self and National Interest.

PS:
The land Israel is occupying is not entirely Palestinian land. They have historical ties to that land right from the time of Egypt and Babylonia.
Israel only ceased Golan Heights, West Bank, East Jerusalem, Gaza Strip after the war with the Arab Coalition
God bless you for this ur precise and self-explanatory post. I've been trying to explain to someone but he didn't get. Even the same Turkey that has been calling against IDF's incursion is not only trying to muscle Armenia, they have also invaded and try to annex Northern Syria under the guise of fighting ISIS, Saudi Arabia has invaded Yemen for a while now and many so much more.

World politics is so full of hypocrisy and so confusing. Israel's major allies are United States and India, India is a major ally to Russia which is a rival to USA and also fights Pakistan(an ally to USA in the War On Terror).One of Azerbaijan's major weapon supplier is Israel, Azerbaijan's major allies include Turkey and Iran(Azerbaijan and Iran are one of the countries in the world dominated by Shiite Muslims) and the two countries don't recognise Israel as a state.

Just so confusing.

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Re: The Banner On A Ship Carrying Jewish Refugees To Palestine In 1947 by kingxsamz(m): 8:36pm On May 16, 2021
molbic:
Even if it is 0% we christians don't give a dam so long as it's where our saviour Jesus Christ came from we will support them , leave Jerusalem for us

Of course. Your saviour who is a white man that was sent by another white man in the sky to die for you, (a black man) , for the sins you didn't commit after two white people ate a fruit because a talking snake deceived them. Makes sense. undecided
Of course, why won't you support Israel even if innocent kids are dying? You just proved my point. You guys are blinded by your beliefs. Same as those Muslims supporting the Palestines bombing Israel.
Ya'll are bunch of clowns.
Even you didn't even know that there are over 50 thousand Christians in Palestine who are suffering from these crisis. Smh. Do better.

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Re: The Banner On A Ship Carrying Jewish Refugees To Palestine In 1947 by IAMPEDRO: 8:36pm On May 16, 2021
Saifullah01:
The banner reads :
"The Germans destroyed our families please dont you destroy our hopes"

What an irony the situation has turned to today
What's the cause of this fight or defense and attack thing?
Who first fired?
Re: The Banner On A Ship Carrying Jewish Refugees To Palestine In 1947 by Tdotbluejays: 8:37pm On May 16, 2021
justosee:

1. They are just taking back every land they have historic ties to.
If you read the Bible, you will notice that Israel expanded on what they inherited from Abraham through war.
2. All lands were won in war. The Arabs and Fulani are not indigenous people of Africa but they are here.
So does that means you justify what the Fulanis are doing (crime) to the ingenious people of Africa?
Re: The Banner On A Ship Carrying Jewish Refugees To Palestine In 1947 by Nobody: 8:38pm On May 16, 2021
Tdotbluejays:

So does that means you justify what the Fulanis are doing (crime) to the ingenious people of Africa?
Are you planning to chase all Arabs out of Africa?
Re: The Banner On A Ship Carrying Jewish Refugees To Palestine In 1947 by ReubenE(m): 8:38pm On May 16, 2021
Ibrahimmrfish:

So you expect them to just watch a huge part of Palestine, carve by European Jews.

Their initial refusal is what created this ugly cycle of events.
Assuming that initial agreement was implemented, by now, Palestine would have her own military as a sovereign country, and Israel would have a formidable opponent to contend with.

Palestine is just an observer state in the United Nations. Therefore does not have the diplomatic ingredients to advance her interest through that medium.
Imagine how much Palestine could have done if she was an independent state.

Don't allow people confuse you with "International Law". International law does not have enforcement backing, and most times is at the mercy of the Big-5

International law is nothing without the interest of the Big-5
Re: The Banner On A Ship Carrying Jewish Refugees To Palestine In 1947 by BlueBlackPackag(m): 8:39pm On May 16, 2021
Saifullah01:


Let's forget the historical angle for the sake of argument. Netanyahu knowing the right wing parties where in talks with the centrist to form a coalition that will oust him and possibly lead to his conviction in the criminal case against him. He then criminally instigates this conflict by storming Al-aqsa mosque on the holiest month of Ramadan (Laylatul qadr night. injuring over 300 worshippers while they pray) and at the same time stealing Palestinian homes for Israelis in east Jerusalem knowing full well that the Palestinians will respond. And respond they did, Netanyahu seizing on this to escalate the conflict with Palestinians, thereby stoking nationalist sentiment back home.
It worked because just on Thursday isreali media reported that one of the right wing lawmaker key to the negotiations of forming anti Netanyahu coalition has told party members that negotiations was "off the table". This will grant Netanyahu the respite he criminally orchestrated using human lives (both Israelis and Palestinians)

Theorists...hahaha

I'm sure after this postulation, you are feeling very accomplished with yourself! So sad.
Re: The Banner On A Ship Carrying Jewish Refugees To Palestine In 1947 by FILEBE(m): 8:40pm On May 16, 2021
ReubenE:
Egypt and and the Arab league is largely responsible for the ordeal the Palestinians are facing...
Those lands were not stolen, majority was acquired through conquest after the Arab-Israeli wars

Israel only expanded its grip on Palestinian lands (formally a British mandate) after the defeat of the Arab coalition in 1948 and 1967.

If the Arab league had allowed reason to prevail when the UN Resolution partitioned that land to Two States (Jewish State of Israel, and Arab State of Palestine) in 1947, perhaps by now, Palestine would have been a thriving country on their own with her own army.

But Egypt and the Arab coalition felt Israel was too small and feeble. Egyptian Generals even boasted that a war with Israel would be like a parade from Cairo to Tel Aviv, that Tel Aviv would be overtaken in two weeks.
They opposed the UN Resolution for Two-State Solution by invading Israel, a battle they lost.
Israel ceased more lands far more than what was given to her by the UN after the war. Can Israel be blamed for doing this? The answer is No, the the land is a war bounty.

Syria lost the control of Golan Heights, Jordan lost the West Bank, Egypt lost the Gaza Strip after the 6 days war (3rd Arab war with Israel) in 1967.
Israel obviously and overwhelmingly won the war and consolidated its grip on Palestine.
Can Israel be blamed for controlling a land they conquered through war? No, cause in war, everything is fair.

The Two-State solution the Palestinians and the Arab League opposed vehemently in 1947, is what they are now clamoring for, but unfortunately, Israel and her western allies especially the US is no longer keen on doing that.

One very important fact to note is that, no country is a good country in the International System of power play.
Palestine would do the same to Israel if she finds herself in that position because international politics is always about National Interest.

Russia has been annexing Ukrainian lands (Crimea, Sevastopol etc), Russia has been making attempts to annex Georgia, Turkey has been muscling Armenia etc. No country is a good country, it is always about self and National Interest.

PS:
The land Israel is occupying is not entirely Palestinian land. They have historical ties to that land right from the time of Egypt and Babylonia.
Israel only ceased Golan Heights, West Bank, East Jerusalem, Gaza Strip after the war with the Arab Coalition

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Israeli%E2%80%93Palestinian_conflict#:~:text=The%20history%20of%20the%20Israeli,the%201947%E2%80%9348%20civil%20war


I just wish both partiea will settle this amicably. It is the people that suffer. No shame in admiting one's wrong

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Re: The Banner On A Ship Carrying Jewish Refugees To Palestine In 1947 by Tdotbluejays: 8:40pm On May 16, 2021
justosee:

Are you planning to chase all Arabs out of Africa?
And my guy fula are Ingenious to Africa. North Africa to be specific. If you find no fault to the expansion mission embarked on by the Ashkenazi jews, then you should have no fault to Fulani's expansion mission too to other parts of Africa too

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Re: The Banner On A Ship Carrying Jewish Refugees To Palestine In 1947 by Goodvibes007: 8:42pm On May 16, 2021
Tdotbluejays:

And my guy fula are Ingenious to Africa. North Africa to be specific. If you find no fault to the expansion mission embarked on by the Ashkenazi jews, then you should have no fault to Fulani's expansion mission too to other parts of Africa too
The dude you are replying gets his history from the Bible. You will keep going round in circles.

Re: The Banner On A Ship Carrying Jewish Refugees To Palestine In 1947 by Gamesmart: 8:46pm On May 16, 2021
Againstlies:


Even Egypt is The majority of Christians which belong to the Coptic Orthodox Church,
Iran are Persian and they were never a muslims countries in history, Muslims conquered them and forcefully converted them to Muslims..
Most of the Arab countries are Jews and christians and they are being forcely converted to Muslims, Muslims spread their religion with polygamy and violence..
I don't say what I don't know....
You can study more about history, even Nigeria is never a fulani country, fulanis muslim terrorist came to Nigeria conquered the Hausas and chased the Yoruba out from Nigeria to Benin republic..

That is an abridged history that at best date back to 1947. The original Palestinians are descendants of the Philistines and were largely Christians and not Arabs. Arabian intermixing came much later after the Muslim invasion and conquest of the region shortly after Mohammed's death. Most of the Jews left due to wars and persecution in the region. That Temple Mount where the Al-Aqsa Mosque was first built by Umar centuries after Jesus came, there existed the First Temple of the Jews as far back as 600BCE which is centuries before Jesus came. It was destroyed around 585BCE but the Second Temple was again built and later destroyed around 70BCE more than 600 years before Mohammed and the first Al-Aqsa mosque (Note that the Al-Aqsa mosque had been destroyed twice by earthquakes and the current mosque is not the original one). The Temple Mount is one of the holiest if not the holiest sites of Judaism and the act of Umar building a mosque there to convert it to an Islamic holy site centuries after the First Temple was built on same land is a recipe for an everlasting strife.

If the Jews were exiled from the land they have been for centuries because they would not accept Islam and their neighbours accepted Islam, does that give the right for the neighbours to claim the Jewish lands? And then say years later when the Jews are returning back to their original lands, that they, the neighbours assisted the Jews with their own lands? Please let your knowledge of history be deep so you know the facts.

Evilgenuis jessejo Gamesmart officialsaw01


Yes, it gives them the right to claim the land.

It is not Jewish land if it was lost during the time of Kingdoms & Conquests and subsequently had a non-Jewish majority.

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Re: The Banner On A Ship Carrying Jewish Refugees To Palestine In 1947 by Skyfornia(m): 8:50pm On May 16, 2021
seunmsg:


And that’s your evidence of my support for the killing of innocent Igbos? Do you know what you’re saying at all?

Go and read those screenshots. You can even go and dig my comments further. When you’re done, open a thread and expose where I supported the killing of innocent Igbos. I am not like you guys, I know where to draw the line because of the humanity in me.

You don't deserve a response...this is my last. Keep deceiving yourself
Re: The Banner On A Ship Carrying Jewish Refugees To Palestine In 1947 by salykely(m): 8:50pm On May 16, 2021
benji93:
Can you provide a reference with respect to this claim? Please I would appreciate a source that convincingly comes to that conclusion. You cited accounts referenced by New York times(which i am still trying to find by the way). But those accounts look like reflections. They appear to be retrospective. The accounts do not tell us why the Egyptian troops, however small they are advanced.

I also made reference to Professor Noam Chomsky's book the faithful triangle. You can get that book.

This is another excerpt from Wikipedia:

"...The Six-Day War was fought between June 5 and June 10, 1967, by Israel and the neighboring states of Egypt [known then as the United Arab Republic (UAR)], Jordan, and Syria. The Six-Day War began with a large-scale surprise air strike by Israel on Egypt and ended with a major victory by Israel."
Re: The Banner On A Ship Carrying Jewish Refugees To Palestine In 1947 by Yusman316(m): 8:52pm On May 16, 2021
Archaeologic and genetic data support that both Jews and Palestinians came from the ancient Canaanites, who extensively mixed with Egyptians, Mesopotamian, and Anatolian peoples in ancient times. Thus, Palestinian-Jewish rivalry is based in cultural and religious, but not in genetic, differences.
Re: The Banner On A Ship Carrying Jewish Refugees To Palestine In 1947 by Nobody: 8:53pm On May 16, 2021
How can Israel claim it's their land when the Palestinian coin is older than Israel.
I pray God Almighty will humiliate everyone supporting Israel. No one will listen to your cry too . If you can say amen then I know you really wish for yourself what you wish for this helpless people

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Re: The Banner On A Ship Carrying Jewish Refugees To Palestine In 1947 by heysquare(m): 8:54pm On May 16, 2021
nnatobryno:


This is very myopic, dont jump into discussion without understanding some certain things. Rockets were fired from the basement of that building which was caught on camera.
It was deliberately bombed! The occupants were given just 1 hour to move out of the building.
Re: The Banner On A Ship Carrying Jewish Refugees To Palestine In 1947 by Nobody: 8:55pm On May 16, 2021
Tdotbluejays:

And my guy fula are Ingenious to Africa. North Africa to be specific. If you find no fault to the expansion mission embarked on by the Ashkenazi jews, then you should have no fault to Fulani's expansion mission too to other parts of Africa too
They are not Africans. They are Arabs migrants who took away African lands.
Only a few of them were found in Africa but they invited their Arab brothers in a bid to dominate Africa.
Israel situation is different. They are taking back lands where their fathers used to live.

I am not in support of Israel or Palestine. More people are getting killed in Nigeria.
Re: The Banner On A Ship Carrying Jewish Refugees To Palestine In 1947 by Nobody: 8:56pm On May 16, 2021
Bettykeys:
Unfortunately, Christians in Nigeria are not aware that the number of Christians in Israel are not up to 3%

Majority of religion in Isreal is Jews with approximately 75% in population
does that change the fact that Islam is a problematic religion?

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Re: The Banner On A Ship Carrying Jewish Refugees To Palestine In 1947 by Evilgenuis: 9:07pm On May 16, 2021
Againstlies:


Even Egypt is The majority of Christians which belong to the Coptic Orthodox Church,
Iran are Persian and they were never a muslims countries in history, Muslims conquered them and forcefully converted them to Muslims..
Most of the Arab countries are Jews and christians and they are being forcely converted to Muslims, Muslims spread their religion with polygamy and violence..
I don't say what I don't know....
You can study more about history, even Nigeria is never a fulani country, fulanis muslim terrorist came to Nigeria conquered the Hausas and chased the Yoruba out from Nigeria to Benin republic..

That is an abridged history that at best date back to 1947. The original Palestinians are descendants of the Philistines and were largely Christians and not Arabs. Arabian intermixing came much later after the Muslim invasion and conquest of the region shortly after Mohammed's death. Most of the Jews left due to wars and persecution in the region. That Temple Mount where the Al-Aqsa Mosque was first built by Umar centuries after Jesus came, there existed the First Temple of the Jews as far back as 600BCE which is centuries before Jesus came. It was destroyed around 585BCE but the Second Temple was again built and later destroyed around 70BCE more than 600 years before Mohammed and the first Al-Aqsa mosque (Note that the Al-Aqsa mosque had been destroyed twice by earthquakes and the current mosque is not the original one). The Temple Mount is one of the holiest if not the holiest sites of Judaism and the act of Umar building a mosque there to convert it to an Islamic holy site centuries after the First Temple was built on same land is a recipe for an everlasting strife.

If the Jews were exiled from the land they have been for centuries because they would not accept Islam and their neighbours accepted Islam, does that give the right for the neighbours to claim the Jewish lands? And then say years later when the Jews are returning back to their original lands, that they, the neighbours assisted the Jews with their own lands? Please let your knowledge of history be deep so you know the facts.

Evilgenuis jessejo Gamesmart officialsaw01


Thank you for sharing this... People talk out of ignorance, without knowing history grin grin grin

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Re: The Banner On A Ship Carrying Jewish Refugees To Palestine In 1947 by benji93: 9:09pm On May 16, 2021
Please you are talking to a researcher, even though i am not a historian. So I am basically checking out your sources and comparing the information found to your assertions. Now you are being all over the place. My previous comment was clearly referring to the bolded in which you wrote Secondly you lied when u said the Arab countries started the 1948 war. Yes, Egypt started the 1973 October war in retaliation for the 1948 war. Israeli military historians agree with the fact that the war was started by Israel This clearly indicates that you know for sure that the Israelis started the 1948 war. I do not know how the six-day war came into this. Surely we can move on to that some other time, but I would appreciate it if you can address the 1948 war, then you can then talk about 1967 and other wars afterward.
salykely:


I also made reference to Professor Noam Chomsky's book the faithful triangle. You can get that book.

This is another excerpt from Wikipedia:

"...The Six-Day War was fought between June 5 and June 10, 1967, by Israel and the neighboring states of Egypt [known then as the United Arab Republic (UAR)], Jordan, and Syria. The Six-Day War began with a large-scale surprise air strike by Israel on Egypt and ended with a major victory by Israel."
Re: The Banner On A Ship Carrying Jewish Refugees To Palestine In 1947 by Yusman316(m): 9:12pm On May 16, 2021
Baawahala:
does that change the fact that Islam is a problematic religion?
People are problematic not religion. Go get your facts right
In the words of late dmx "guns don't kill people, but stup*d muderfvckers with guns kill people"
Re: The Banner On A Ship Carrying Jewish Refugees To Palestine In 1947 by ocelot2006(m): 9:14pm On May 16, 2021
November1857:
yes deliberately, all Islamic terrorist must be bomb. Not pampered..

Yeah, because the free press are "terrorists", right?
Re: The Banner On A Ship Carrying Jewish Refugees To Palestine In 1947 by Invitationn: 9:15pm On May 16, 2021
gaius01:


Like I have said I don't have much knowledge on the conflicts but pertaining to the cancellation of the oppose party, I think that will be for their interest to fight for their nation. If they the [Opposition party ] keep fighting Netanyahu In this critical time It would seems they are dividing the nation. For the interests of both parties they should first eliminate [Control] their external problem before facing thier internal problem for the interest of the isrealie citizens.

Any sane individual will do that. Imagine Turkey a country that is not close to Gaza forming a tiles with Nigeria to teach Isreal a lesson. The reason is clear, the only interest there is because both president are muslim, now that exactly what is going on in Isreal. Join head to fight after that we do our internal things.
Lol... there's nothing to fight.
Hamas is far too weak and the IDF far too strong to fight each other.
What Israel and the IDF is doing is called bullying.
No bully wants their victims put up any resistance.
Netanyahu will still be tried...but even then, it's not Uhuru.
The next PM might be worse...it doesn't matter whether it's Netanyahu or the opposition.
Re: The Banner On A Ship Carrying Jewish Refugees To Palestine In 1947 by Nobody: 9:15pm On May 16, 2021
Yusman316:

People are problematic not religion. Go get your facts right
In the words of late dmx "guns don't kill people, but stup*d muderfvckers with guns kill people"
Yes people are problematic.
If I say 90% of those problematic people has alliance with Islam I will have more yes than no.
Re: The Banner On A Ship Carrying Jewish Refugees To Palestine In 1947 by WorldRichest: 9:18pm On May 16, 2021
richidinho:
Exactly what Fulani terrorist did in Kwara state and every Muslim in Nigeria were happy

This one is typing from the psychiatric ward of one of the COVID-19 Isolation Centres
Re: The Banner On A Ship Carrying Jewish Refugees To Palestine In 1947 by ocelot2006(m): 9:19pm On May 16, 2021
Biggcake:
Israel should bomb them some more....

Yeah!! Including innocent children and a baby that was killed. But hey, bomb them some more!!! No pity, no compassion...and you went to church today, abi?

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Re: The Banner On A Ship Carrying Jewish Refugees To Palestine In 1947 by ReubenE(m): 9:20pm On May 16, 2021
onuman:



Please don’t misinform the gullible ones:

1) in war, not everything is fair. Because there are rules of engagement in war. For example, civilians cannot be targeted and killed during war.
Captured soldiers cannot be killed
.

2) it’s Hamas refusal to recognize the existence of the State of Israel which has hindered the emergence of a sovereign State of Palestine, not that Israel, the US and other allies of Israel are no longer interested in having a Sovereign State of Palestine to emerge.

@first paragraph: I still maintain my position that "in war, everything is fair".
International law is just a question of morality, and not law in the actual sense because it does not have a clear instrument of enforcement.

How far a country can express her interest, be it in war, in the international system depends on the ingredients of "Power" at her disposal.
The US has violated international law and rules of engagement on several occasions, no one has held her accountable. Russia has done same in Crimea, Georgia etc. China is not excluded.

International law is the cumulative interest and morality of the Big-5.
You cannot successfully talk about morality or obedience to law in international politics without acknowledging Power.

Realism has taught me that I don't need to pretend or drag foot over mere words on paper.

@second Paragraph:

Hamas is designated as a terrorist organization by the West, therefore does not have the ethical authority to approve the existence of the State of Israel. Whatever sentiments they have is inconsequential because it cannot influence State-Actors.

The United Nations only recognizes the Palestinian authority headed by Mahmoud Abass, and not Hamas.
Gaza has been under blockade by Egypt and Israel since 2006 because of Hamas.

Since the turn of this dispensation, especially from 2000, the United Nations General Assembly has made several efforts to remove the status of Palestine as an Observer State, but the US has vetoed it each time.
If that is not an impediment towards the process of making Palestine an independent country, I don't know what is.

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Re: The Banner On A Ship Carrying Jewish Refugees To Palestine In 1947 by mutvy: 9:22pm On May 16, 2021
African Christians. All of una no go die well. Una no dey die well before sef.
Re: The Banner On A Ship Carrying Jewish Refugees To Palestine In 1947 by MummyD2020(f): 9:23pm On May 16, 2021
ReubenE:
Egypt and and the Arab league is largely responsible for the ordeal the Palestinians are facing...
Those lands were not stolen, majority was acquired through conquest after the Arab-Israeli wars

Israel only expanded its grip on Palestinian lands (formally a British mandate) after the defeat of the Arab coalition in 1948 and 1967.

If the Arab league had allowed reason to prevail when the UN Resolution partitioned that land to Two States (Jewish State of Israel, and Arab State of Palestine) in 1947, perhaps by now, Palestine would have been a thriving country on their own with her own army.

But Egypt and the Arab coalition felt Israel was too small and feeble. Egyptian Generals even boasted that a war with Israel would be like a parade from Cairo to Tel Aviv, that Tel Aviv would be overtaken in two weeks.
They opposed the UN Resolution for Two-State Solution by invading Israel, a battle they lost.
Israel ceased more lands far more than what was given to her by the UN after the war. Can Israel be blamed for doing this? The answer is No, the the land is a war bounty.

Syria lost the control of Golan Heights, Jordan lost the West Bank, Egypt lost the Gaza Strip after the 6 days war (3rd Arab war with Israel) in 1967.
Israel obviously and overwhelmingly won the war and consolidated its grip on Palestine.
Can Israel be blamed for controlling a land they conquered through war? No, cause in war, everything is fair.

The Two-State solution the Palestinians and the Arab League opposed vehemently in 1947, is what they are now clamoring for, but unfortunately, Israel and her western allies especially the US is no longer keen on doing that.

One very important fact to note is that, no country is a good country in the International System of power play.
Palestine would do the same to Israel if she finds herself in that position because international politics is always about National Interest.

Russia has been annexing Ukrainian lands (Crimea, Sevastopol etc), Russia has been making attempts to annex Georgia, Turkey has been muscling Armenia etc. No country is a good country, it is always about self and National Interest.

PS:
The land Israel is occupying is not entirely Palestinian land. They have historical ties to that land right from the time of Egypt and Babylonia.
Israel only ceased Golan Heights, West Bank, East Jerusalem, Gaza Strip after the war with the Arab Coalition

Kudos to your knowledge of history. They think they the only ones that grab lands. Abeg let Israel level the modafukers to the ground

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Re: The Banner On A Ship Carrying Jewish Refugees To Palestine In 1947 by Tipster07: 9:25pm On May 16, 2021
Againstlies:
Is isreal only a Jews country in history, most of the Muslim countries are Jews people conquered by Muslims and forcely converted to Islam.


Even Egypt is The majority of Christians which belong to the Coptic Orthodox Church,
Iran are Persian and they were never a muslims countries in history, Muslims conquered them and forcefully converted them to Muslims..
Most of the Arab countries are Jews and christians and they are being forcely converted to Muslims, Muslims spread their religion with polygamy and violence..
I don't say what I don't know....
You can study more about history, even Nigeria is never a fulani country, fulanis muslim terrorist came to Nigeria conquered the Hausas and chased the Yoruba out from Nigeria to Benin republic..



That is an abridged history that at best date back to 1947. The original Palestinians are descendants of the Philistines and were largely Christians and not Arabs. Arabian intermixing came much later after the Muslim invasion and conquest of the region shortly after Mohammed's death. Most of the Jews left due to wars and persecution in the region. That Temple Mount where the Al-Aqsa Mosque was first built by Umar centuries after Jesus came, there existed the First Temple of the Jews as far back as 600BCE which is centuries before Jesus came. It was destroyed around 585BCE but the Second Temple was again built and later destroyed around 70BCE more than 600 years before Mohammed and the first Al-Aqsa mosque (Note that the Al-Aqsa mosque had been destroyed twice by earthquakes and the current mosque is not the original one). The Temple Mount is one of the holiest if not the holiest sites of Judaism and the act of Umar building a mosque there to convert it to an Islamic holy site centuries after the First Temple was built on same land is a recipe for an everlasting strife.

If the Jews were exiled from the land they have been for centuries because they would not accept Islam and their neighbours accepted Islam, does that give the right for the neighbours to claim the Jewish lands? And then say years later when the Jews are returning back to their original lands, that they, the neighbours assisted the Jews with their own lands? Please let your knowledge of history be deep so you know the facts.

Evilgenuis jessejo Gamesmart officialsaw01
You nailed it

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Re: The Banner On A Ship Carrying Jewish Refugees To Palestine In 1947 by tammie24: 9:31pm On May 16, 2021
Shuzzi:
so then what?
this issue has nothing to do with religion.
as in eh... cheesy
Re: The Banner On A Ship Carrying Jewish Refugees To Palestine In 1947 by ReubenE(m): 9:36pm On May 16, 2021
rakish:

With all you've said, you haven't mentioned that it is against international law for any country or region to take over a territory impoverished by war and that was what Israel did. I am a Christian, but reading the history surrounding the Israel-Palestine conflict has made me not blindly support Israel's actions. And the reason Israel has this strength today is simply because of the military aid it receives from the US and Europe. The Palestinians do not even have an army.
I've treated your question in my lead post.

In international politics, Power belongs to the super structure. Law, morality/ethics etc belongs to the substructure.

International law most often is a mere expression on paper when it does not align with the interest of the Big Players.

In this case, the US is involved so "Might is Right"

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