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Re: Kaduna Moves To Reform Almajiri Schools, Teachers To Be Awarded NCE by DMerciful(m): 6:39am On Jun 03, 2021
Something GEJ did free of charge for you guys

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Re: Kaduna Moves To Reform Almajiri Schools, Teachers To Be Awarded NCE by viralinfo: 6:40am On Jun 03, 2021
Is a welcome development. I believe integration will help to enlighten some of this teacher.. also it will help to keep a profile record of this teacher...but the only problem self is will the government allows it to work cause we all known they are good at talk with no action...the previous administration did lay foundation for this project but you see most of this leader are short sighted .... a leader is one who can foresee problem in future and start making plan towards a solution to that problem in the present...this what distinguish the previous administration from the present one
Re: Kaduna Moves To Reform Almajiri Schools, Teachers To Be Awarded NCE by gulfer: 6:42am On Jun 03, 2021
He'll rufai should not forget to include the trademark plates in the budget because begging is what the almajiris thrive on angry angry angry
Re: Kaduna Moves To Reform Almajiri Schools, Teachers To Be Awarded NCE by adecz: 6:44am On Jun 03, 2021
Beancounter93:


I think the idea is to in essence make it difficult for just anyone to wake up and proclaim himself a teacher of Almajiri, and force them to get some training, and place them under government supervision

Plus, it's not like El Rufai would deploy them to secular schools...

Plus, having lived in the North, most Almajiri teachers are not necessarily Fulani


If you are in NW Nigeria, they are
90% Fulani. If you are in NE, they are
mist likely to be Kanuri.

You hardly see true Hausa people
engaging in such a lazy occupation of
teaching & surviving off children in
the name of imparting religious knowledge.

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Re: Kaduna Moves To Reform Almajiri Schools, Teachers To Be Awarded NCE by Tupaq: 6:47am On Jun 03, 2021
What is wrong with these Northerners. Must everything be of quota system?
Re: Kaduna Moves To Reform Almajiri Schools, Teachers To Be Awarded NCE by matm: 7:01am On Jun 03, 2021
Teachers to be awarded nce? Basically,one who doesn't have at least nce is not a teacher based on trcn law.U must have gotten nce before teaching.
To reform alhmajiri system,nice holders who are grounded in islamic teaching shld be recruited.Anything short of that,is anti extant education law for teaching in Nigeria.
Those who want to be teachers,should enrol for nce programme which takes a minimum of 3yrs.At d end,nce certificates will be awarded to them
Re: Kaduna Moves To Reform Almajiri Schools, Teachers To Be Awarded NCE by csamii: 7:04am On Jun 03, 2021
Beancounter93:


Note the word used...earned...which is a nice way of saying...we will weed out the illiterates from among them, and replace them with literate Almajiri teachers who can read and write....

Knowing how to read and write doesn't qualify anyone to become a teacher. There are steps to this process but naija is ruled by a major id!ot and sub id!ot so anything goes.
Re: Kaduna Moves To Reform Almajiri Schools, Teachers To Be Awarded NCE by Nobody: 7:06am On Jun 03, 2021
Lagos State is talking about reforming TECHNOLOGY this one is taking about reforming Islamic Education that has not brought any single development apart from banditry, kidnapping, jihad, and killings.
Shame!

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Re: Kaduna Moves To Reform Almajiri Schools, Teachers To Be Awarded NCE by Nobody: 7:08am On Jun 03, 2021
csamii:


Knowing how to read and write doesn't qualify anyone to become a teacher. There are steps to this process but naija is ruled by a major id!ot and sub id!ot so anything goes.

I used the term 'read and write'...because some on this thread assumed that all Almajiri teachers can't read and write.

(N.B-I myself am opposed to the Almajiri system, and would very much love to see it eliminated...and every kid in secular schools. And funnily enough so would El Rufai...the guy admires the Finnish system of education . But many Northerners don't want to see the system go...so frocing the Almajiri teachers to get a qualificaiton weeds out the 'bad eggs' and replaces them with good eggs...and hopefully modernises the whole system.)

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Re: Kaduna Moves To Reform Almajiri Schools, Teachers To Be Awarded NCE by Adolfhitler001: 7:08am On Jun 03, 2021
They will be reward with minister of education in the future grin
Re: Kaduna Moves To Reform Almajiri Schools, Teachers To Be Awarded NCE by naptu2: 7:14am On Jun 03, 2021
matm:
Teachers to be awarded nce? Basically,one who doesn't have at least nce is not a teacher based on trcn law.U must have gotten nce before teaching.
To reform alhmajiri system,nice holders who are grounded in islamic teaching shld be recruited.Anything short of that,is anti extant education law for teaching in Nigeria.
Those who want to be teachers,should enrol for nce programme which takes a minimum of 3yrs.At d end,nce certificates will be awarded to them

That's why I bolded some sentences in that piece.

The almajiri teachers are people who teach at informal Almajiri schools. What the government wants to do is what is written in the last sentence of your post. Basically the government is designing a curriculum for almajiri education and sending it to the National Commission for Colleges of Education (NCCE) for approval. When it is approved, almajiri teachers would have to enrol for NCE in order to be certified and only certified teachers will be allowed in Kaduna (basically unqualified teachers will be arrested an prosecuted).


Basically, the government is trying to integrate almajiri education with formal education. It has already begun the process by banning a lot of the features of the informal almajiri education, such as begging and having underage children roaming around.

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Re: Kaduna Moves To Reform Almajiri Schools, Teachers To Be Awarded NCE by Jamesbally: 7:23am On Jun 03, 2021
bistonsmith:
Almajiri teachers to earn NCE? Abuse of certificate can you imagine?

They light years ahead of IPOB, who are brain dead. cheesy

Re: Kaduna Moves To Reform Almajiri Schools, Teachers To Be Awarded NCE by Jamesbally: 7:25am On Jun 03, 2021
temitope27:
I wonder if there were no Muslims in South West too, this people backwardness is to much

There are Muslims in South East too. There numbers is increasing by the day. cheesy cheesy cheesy

Re: Kaduna Moves To Reform Almajiri Schools, Teachers To Be Awarded NCE by Judolisco(m): 7:28am On Jun 03, 2021
Jonathan tried to do dis.. But una no get sense
Re: Kaduna Moves To Reform Almajiri Schools, Teachers To Be Awarded NCE by Diamondpen(m): 7:34am On Jun 03, 2021
Sometimes i feel the type of educational system we adopted is a complete fraud or a deliberate act by the our colonial masters to keep us perpetually at the bottom of events.

Reading comments from the young and not too young in this forum, i thereby conclude that we have a real logway to go. Our hypocrisy, nepotism and self illusion is out of this world.

I will conclude by saying an adage in Yoruba that " A child that has not been privileged to visit other people's farms will erroneously think his father's farm is the largest in the whole wide world".
Re: Kaduna Moves To Reform Almajiri Schools, Teachers To Be Awarded NCE by effort1: 7:34am On Jun 03, 2021
The same project they said Jonathan didn't deliver is what they're using.

Sirjamo, may all the lies you propagate haunt you till you die a wretched death

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Re: Kaduna Moves To Reform Almajiri Schools, Teachers To Be Awarded NCE by OLULAW: 7:49am On Jun 03, 2021
The British knew how far the Yorubas and the Igbos would go. To truncate this, Satanic Lugard forcefully wedded them to the backward thinking, gworo eating, ill fated Hausa-Fulani nomads. No fortune teller is needed to foretell the future of this unholy wedlock. There is no Nigeria. Non Hausa-Fulani peoples should extricate themselves from these heartlessly dangerous Mohammedans or continue to suffer and smile.

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Re: Kaduna Moves To Reform Almajiri Schools, Teachers To Be Awarded NCE by sulaak(m): 7:50am On Jun 03, 2021
naptu2:
This is what northern state governments should have done from the beginning. I mean, it's a no brainer.

Banning the Almajiri system will be too difficult, because there's a demand. It will take reorientation for generations to achieve that.

The obvious common sense thing to do is to integrate the system.

What is almajiri system of education about? Isn't it simply about Islamic education? Well, if that's the case then there's no reason why Almajiri teachers cannot be trained, just as regular school teachers are trained and there's no reason why they cannot be employed by the state governments and made to teach in regular schools.

You can't fix a flawed system built on a very weak foundation. Replace Almajiri education with Western education and add quranic studies as they do in the South West.
Re: Kaduna Moves To Reform Almajiri Schools, Teachers To Be Awarded NCE by emmnprince(m): 7:52am On Jun 03, 2021
Issokay! But awarding NCE to almajiri teachers when they are not qualified in the first place is not okay.
Re: Kaduna Moves To Reform Almajiri Schools, Teachers To Be Awarded NCE by StaffofOrayan(m): 7:56am On Jun 03, 2021
The curriculum, when developed, will be submitted to the National Council for Colleges of Education, for possible adoption and usage at the national level,” he said.

Hehehehehehehehehe
I guess for the Muslims in the SW,
Almajiri curriculum loading
Re: Kaduna Moves To Reform Almajiri Schools, Teachers To Be Awarded NCE by olisaEze(m): 7:59am On Jun 03, 2021
To be awarded an NCE in the South, u need to have a first school leaving certificate, successfully concluded ur WASSCE with a minimum of five (5) credits. Then you’ll attend a govt approved college of education!

So why should someone down South that has gone through all that to get the degree be equated with an illiterate Mallam?

Why is merit always being sacrificed on the altar of mediocrity to appease the north?

And the same shallow minds down South that voted this calamitous govt are hailing this despite the fact that were they reside college degrees are not given as gifts. Ona no go fit ever get sense again!
Re: Kaduna Moves To Reform Almajiri Schools, Teachers To Be Awarded NCE by Omoluabiii(m): 8:03am On Jun 03, 2021
A good move. Their leaders have to step up and put strict measures in place. Until then the status quo will kantinue... grin
Re: Kaduna Moves To Reform Almajiri Schools, Teachers To Be Awarded NCE by somehow: 8:18am On Jun 03, 2021
Even the so called western education in other parts of Nigeria is a fraud.

An education that can't refine the mental faculty of those who went through it should be called what it is = Fraud!
Re: Kaduna Moves To Reform Almajiri Schools, Teachers To Be Awarded NCE by Wakanakarue: 8:19am On Jun 03, 2021
They will just be awarded nce just like that without putting in the needed work. Like a gift for doing nothing thereby creating more quota nce holders.

Tomorrow those ones will use it to apply for positions they re not qualified for.
Re: Kaduna Moves To Reform Almajiri Schools, Teachers To Be Awarded NCE by Teejay13(m): 8:23am On Jun 03, 2021
Good moves
Re: Kaduna Moves To Reform Almajiri Schools, Teachers To Be Awarded NCE by sapientia(m): 8:46am On Jun 03, 2021
Same thing they hated Jonathan for
Re: Kaduna Moves To Reform Almajiri Schools, Teachers To Be Awarded NCE by naptu2: 8:50am On Jun 03, 2021
sulaak:


You can't fix a flawed system built on a very weak foundation. Replace Almajiri education with Western education and add quranic studies as they do in the South West.


That's essentially what they are doing, but you cannot make changes against the will of the people. Governments in Northern Nigeria have tried to ban the almajiri system, but they've failed because the people are against such bans. Therefore the government is integrating it with the regular school system, but the people will still have the name that they want.

(Remember that this is a democracy, not a dictatorship and you can't ignore the will of the people and impose whatever you want).

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Re: Kaduna Moves To Reform Almajiri Schools, Teachers To Be Awarded NCE by jaytee01(m): 8:57am On Jun 03, 2021
adecz:

➡You want to award NCE to "teachers"
who don't know A, B, C or haven't
gotten JSS or SSS certificates.

➡ Almajiri teachers are Fulani and we
know they don't like any form of formal
Education even when encouraged to
do so... Remember the "Nomadic Education Board" , formed by a Fulani Education Minister?

➡Well, na so una president enter army
come become General without WAEC
certificate; now see as he has destroyed
a flourishing country.

➡The more there is need for restructuring
in this Nigeria.
Re: Kaduna Moves To Reform Almajiri Schools, Teachers To Be Awarded NCE by Agbegbaorogboye: 10:05am On Jun 03, 2021
naptu2:
This is what northern state governments should have done from the beginning. I mean, it's a no brainer.

Banning the Almajiri system will be too difficult, because there's a demand. It will take reorientation for generations to achieve that.

The obvious common sense thing to do is to integrate the system.

What is almajiri system of education about? Isn't it simply about Islamic education? Well, if that's the case then there's no reason why Almajiri teachers cannot be trained, just as regular school teachers are trained and there's no reason why they cannot be employed by the state governments and made to teach in regular schools.

You're mixing it up. Reqular schools have IRS/IRK to cater for Islamic knowledge/education. In fact, Arabic is an option in secondary school.
Almajiri is seen by those who patronise it as their alternative to Western education. So merging it will mean a death of the system itself and I doubt those who believe in it will accept that.
Re: Kaduna Moves To Reform Almajiri Schools, Teachers To Be Awarded NCE by Holaomoakin(m): 10:56am On Jun 03, 2021
mtsheeew!
Re: Kaduna Moves To Reform Almajiri Schools, Teachers To Be Awarded NCE by naptu2: 11:29am On Jun 03, 2021
Obviously that guy does not know what he's talking about.

The ban on the almajiri system of education fails for 2 main reasons (A) the parents went to Quranic schools and they want their children to also attend those schools (B) The teachers in such schools would be out of a job if the schools are banned and so they do everything possible to ensure that they are not banned. The parents have more confidence in the teachers than they do in the government.


This new system will ensure that the teachers are accommodated by training them and ensuring that they are certified and then integrating them into the regular school system.

To show you that he does not know what he is talking about, he says that IRK and Arabic are included in western schools in the south-west and that's why there's no almajiri schools in the south-west. He has obviously never heard of Ile Kewu.

Now what's the difference between Ile Kewu in the South-West and Almajiri schools in the north? The teachers in Almajiri schools in the north depend on the proceeds of alms that have been collected by their students. In order words, their students go out to beg on the streets and then bring the proceeds back to their mallams. In the South-West, parents pay the Ile Kewu to have their children educated there.

This new system will ensure that the Almajiri teachers are on the payroll of the government and they would not have to send their students out to beg for alms.

That's also why it was mentioned in the article that begging is illegal.

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Re: Kaduna Moves To Reform Almajiri Schools, Teachers To Be Awarded NCE by Gfskw: 4:55pm On Jun 03, 2021
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