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Re: I'm So Convinced That God Doesn't Not Exist by jamesid29(m): 1:42pm On Jun 14
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Re: I'm So Convinced That God Doesn't Not Exist by sonmvayina(m): 9:35pm On Jun 14
bobestman:

Yea. All I want you to understand is that if mortals can do such things, the Ancient one who created them all can do more than that.
Do you know that in Pre-historic times we were like gods. We can do extraordinary things but we have lost that power in us today. These was why the Psalmist called us gods. The WORD/Messiah also called us gods.
If we have power in those ancient times to do supernatural things, can't the one who created us all and gave us that power do more than that?
All things are possible with Him
Pray to understand things that look impossible to you in the bible, our Creator can do more than the impossible

Do you also believe it was also God that called Muhammad? If he can do all things.


If no, why?
Re: I'm So Convinced That God Doesn't Not Exist by bobestman(m): 9:41pm On Jun 14
sonmvayina:


Do you also believe it was also God that called Muhammad? If he can do all things.


If no, why?
Leave people and doctrines alone bro. Work out your salvation. Had told you that all lies and fabrications will be corrected at the right time.
Re: I'm So Convinced That God Doesn't Not Exist by Boss13: 7:20am On Jun 15
Workch:
If he does exist then why can't no one ever provide evidence for his existence.

Everyone seem to be lying and cooking up stuff of his existence.

That you exist, is sufficient proof that GOD exist.
Re: I'm So Convinced That God Doesn't Not Exist by Boss13: 7:20am On Jun 15
sonmvayina:


Do you also believe it was also God that called Muhammad? If he can do all things.


If no, why?

I believe

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Re: I'm So Convinced That God Doesn't Not Exist by sonmvayina(m): 7:25am On Jun 15
bobestman:

Leave people and doctrines alone bro. Work out your salvation. Had told you that all lies and fabrications will be corrected at the right time.

Lol...see how funny you are.. so where do you draw the line?.

My friend The Torah is the key.
Re: I'm So Convinced That God Doesn't Not Exist by Workch: 7:33am On Jun 15
Boss13:


That you exist, is sufficient proof that GOD exist.
I am evidence that my parents mated, not for any god
Re: I'm So Convinced That God Doesn't Not Exist by bobestman(m): 10:22am On Jun 15
sonmvayina:


Lol...see how funny you are.. so where do you draw the line?.

My friend The Torah is the key.
Bro look around the religion in the world today with many confusion
Christianity
Islam
Judaism and others
In their various books, their are equally many confusion that they themselves can know but will not agree on
The one who created all things is not the author of confusion. He never created things to be that way. Men fell, the deciever set in, and corrupted many things.
All these things must be corrected to direct men back to the truth before the Creator pours His wrath on earth.

It's NduOrah(tree of life) in my tongue before they corrupted it to Torah. It is the book or tree one must eat from to gain eternal life. Christians copied from it. Islam copied from it. Traditionalist get many of their knowledge there. The powers that be use the knowledge from it to solve many life's problem. But today, the book is Corrupted by thieves just like other religious book. And it is only a corrupted thing that needs correction to make it clean again. That is what I am trying to tell you. Ponder on these things.

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Re: I'm So Convinced That God Doesn't Not Exist by sonmvayina(m): 12:07pm On Jun 15
bobestman:

Bro look around the religion in the world today with many confusion
Christianity
Islam
Judaism and others
In their various books, their are equally many confusion that they themselves can know but will not agree on
The one who created all things is not the author of confusion. He never created things to be that way. Men fell, the deciever set in, and corrupted many things.
All these things must be corrected to direct men back to the truth before the Creator pours His wrath on earth.

It's NduOrah(tree of life) in my tongue before they corrupted it to Torah. It is the book or tree one must eat from to gain eternal life. Christians copied from it. Islam copied from it. Traditionalist get many of their knowledge there. The powers that be use the knowledge from it to solve many life's problem. But today, the book is Corrupted by thieves just like other religious book. And it is only a corrupted thing that needs correction to make it clean again. That is what I am trying to tell you. Ponder on these things.

Now your speaking my language...

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Re: I'm So Convinced That God Doesn't Not Exist by destinedtee(m): 3:30pm On Jun 15
When a man thinks deeply, he will come to acknowledge the existence of God. A deep reflection about nature, the solar system and creation should make a mortal man know there is SOMEONE behind the scene. Rather than seek for knowledge, some choose to intentionally ignore the reality that beckons to them and make conclusions. They claim lack of evidence as the basis for their ideology. Sooner or later, all will come to definitely ACKNOWLEDGE there is God whether they like it or not. It is just a matter of time.
Re: I'm So Convinced That God Doesn't Not Exist by sonmvayina(m): 5:23pm On Jun 15
destinedtee:
When a man thinks deeply, he will come to acknowledge the existence of God. A deep reflection about nature, the solar system and creation should make a mortal man know there is SOMEONE behind the scene. Rather than seek for knowledge, some choose to intentionally ignore the reality that beckons to them and make conclusions. They claim lack of evidence as the basis for their ideology. Sooner or later, all will come to definitely ACKNOWLEDGE there is God whether they like it or not. It is just a matter of time.

Describe the God you believe in let's start from there...

Thanks in advance.
Re: I'm So Convinced That God Doesn't Not Exist by CrazyMan(m): 7:29pm On Jun 15
Workch:
If he does exist then why can't no one ever provide evidence for his existence.

Everyone seem to be lying and cooking up stuff of his existence.
What evidence do you seek?
Re: I'm So Convinced That God Doesn't Not Exist by Workch: 7:31pm On Jun 15
CrazyMan:

What evidence do you seek?
Any testable and repeatable one.
Re: I'm So Convinced That God Doesn't Not Exist by destinedtee(m): 7:36pm On Jun 15
sonmvayina:


Describe the God you believe in let's start from there...

Thanks in advance.
Thank you.
I believe in someone who made man, nature and the entire creation. He is infinite, immortal, powerful and way beyond the intellect of man because he gifted man (his creation) intellect in the first place. I believe there is someone behind everything that we see. He is the creator of the universe.

This is the God I believe in. There are more things about Him that I believe. However, I will stop here for now.

Now that you have a clue as to who I believe, I desire to know your stand too. Do you believe in the existence of God? If Yes, briefly talk about him. If not, state your reasons.

I look forward to your response. Thank you once again.
Re: I'm So Convinced That God Doesn't Not Exist by sonmvayina(m): 7:43pm On Jun 15
destinedtee:

Thank you for your polite response.
I believe in someone who made man, nature and the entire creation. He is infinite, immortal, powerful and way beyond the intellect of man because he gifted man (his creation) intellect in the first place. I believe there is someone behind everything that we see. He is the creator of the universe.

This is the God I believe in. There are more things about Him that I believe. However, I will stop here for now.

I look forward to your response. Thank you once again.


You did not really describe anything.

Let me give you a hint. If you are asked in your biology WAEC to describe an insect. You will definitely tell the examiner about its wing, legs compound eyes, abdomen...etc..

Describe your God in like manner. So that when I see it I will be able to recognize it..

What you have done is simply attribute characteristics to an idea...

You described your god as a "he" tell me does he have a private part, curly hair, 5 fingers. Does your God defecate or urinate. Does he have sex...stuff like that..
Re: I'm So Convinced That God Doesn't Not Exist by CrazyMan(m): 7:45pm On Jun 15
Workch:
Any testable and repeatable one.
I used to be in your shoes about a decade ago on this very section, unitl I had certain experiences that made me change my mindset.

The first step you must take towards discovering God is to believe that he exists, cos once your mind is stereotyped into believing that he doesn't exist, you would argue with whatever evidence that's presented to you and find fault in every action suggested to you to carry out.

Secondly you must change your morals, Jesus never preached Christianity on Earth, he preached good morals, be honest, be truthful, be kind, help the poor, assist the needy, avoid fornication...etc.

From here, once you begin to the journey towards attaining perfection, build a relationship with God, (read your Bible and pray regularly) continue this process and sooner or later God will make contact with you through his holy spirit.

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Re: I'm So Convinced That God Doesn't Not Exist by Workch: 7:46pm On Jun 15
CrazyMan:

I used to be in your shoes about a decade ago on this very section, unitl I had certain experiences that made me change my mindset.

The first step you must take towards discovering God is to believe that he exists, cos once your mind is stereotyped into believing that he doesn't exist, you would argue with whatever evidence that's presented to you and find fault in every action suggested to you to carry out.

Secondly you must change your morals, Jesus never preached Christianity on Earth, he preached good morals, be honest, be truthful, be kind, help the poor, assist the needy, avoid fornication...etc.

From here, once you begin to the journey towards attaining perfection, build a relationship with God, (read your Bible and pray regularly) continue this process and sooner or later God will make contact with you through his holy spirit.
please just give me a testable evidence. I have had a lot of preachings already
Re: I'm So Convinced That God Doesn't Not Exist by sonmvayina(m): 7:47pm On Jun 15
CrazyMan:

I used to be in your shoes about a decade ago on this very section, unitl I had certain experiences that made me change my mindset.

The first step you must take towards discovering God is to believe that he exists, cos once your mind is stereotyped into believing that he doesn't exist, you would argue with whatever evidence that's presented to you and find fault in every action suggested to you to carry out.

Secondly you must change your morals, Jesus never preached Christianity on Earth, he preached good morals, be honest, be truthful, be kind, help the poor, assist the needy, avoid fornication...etc.

From here, once you begin to the journey towards attaining perfection, build a relationship with God, (read your Bible and pray regularly) continue this process and sooner or later God will make contact with you through his holy spirit.

What of " if Allah is the real God"?
Re: I'm So Convinced That God Doesn't Not Exist by CrazyMan(m): 7:48pm On Jun 15
Workch:
please just give me a testable evidence. I have had a lot of preachings already
Seek him, that's all...ask him to reveal himself to you.
Re: I'm So Convinced That God Doesn't Not Exist by sonmvayina(m): 7:48pm On Jun 15
Workch:
please just give me a testable evidence. I have had a lot of preachings already

Have you ever had an "out of body" experience?
Re: I'm So Convinced That God Doesn't Not Exist by sonmvayina(m): 7:49pm On Jun 15
CrazyMan:

Seek him, that's all...ask him to reveal himself to you.

Hahahahahha, this is the exact problem with Nigeria and humanity as a whole..
Re: I'm So Convinced That God Doesn't Not Exist by CrazyMan(m): 7:49pm On Jun 15
sonmvayina:


What of " if Allah is the real God"?
I'm talking based on my own experience...and there are no "But's" in it.
Re: I'm So Convinced That God Doesn't Not Exist by Workch: 7:53pm On Jun 15
sonmvayina:


Have you ever had an "out of body" experience?
yes, what about it?
Re: I'm So Convinced That God Doesn't Not Exist by destinedtee(m): 8:03pm On Jun 15
sonmvayina:


You did not really describe anything.

Let me give you a hint. If you are asked in your biology WAEC to describe an insect. You will definitely tell the examiner about its wing, legs compound eyes, abdomen...etc..

Describe your God in like manner. So that when I see it I will be able to recognize it..

What you have done is simply attribute characteristics to an idea...

You described your god as a "he" tell me does he have a private part, curly hair, 5 fingers. Does your God defecate or urinate. Does he have sex...stuff like that..

To your last statement, God is a Spirit being. That is a basic description of his personality. The issue of hair, sex and the likes you mentioned only came in because you have the intellect to reason along that line. Mind you, that intellect was given by Him as I said ab initio. The basic thing I want us to address first is his EXISTENCE. There are many other things that can be drawn from that.

What is your own take about the existence of God first? That's a good place to start for me as well. Do you believe in his existence? If yes, talk about what you know about him. If no, state reasons.
Re: I'm So Convinced That God Doesn't Not Exist by sonmvayina(m): 8:29pm On Jun 15
CrazyMan:

I'm talking based on my own experience...and there are no "But's" in it.

A Muslim will and can say the same thing....when your senses can lie to you, what else can it not do...
Re: I'm So Convinced That God Doesn't Not Exist by sonmvayina(m): 8:33pm On Jun 15
destinedtee:


To your last statement, God is a Spirit being. That is a basic description of his personality. The issue of hair, sex and the likes you mentioned only came in because you have the intellect to reason along that line. Mind you, that intellect was given by Him as I said ab initio. The basic thing I want us to address first is his EXISTENCE. There are many other things that can be drawn from that.

What is your own take about the existence of God first? That's a good place to start for me as well. Do you believe in his existence? If yes, talk about what you know about him. If no, state reasons.

I don't "believe"..I "know" God exist. It is not a question of believe for me. It is a question of knowing..The Creator is consciousness personified..

Not a man or a jew or a genie that grants wishes..
Re: I'm So Convinced That God Doesn't Not Exist by sonmvayina(m): 8:34pm On Jun 15
Workch:
yes, what about it?

What did you feel ?
Re: I'm So Convinced That God Doesn't Not Exist by sonmvayina(m): 8:36pm On Jun 15
destinedtee:


To your last statement, God is a Spirit being. That is a basic description of his personality. The issue of hair, sex and the likes you mentioned only came in because you have the intellect to reason along that line. Mind you, that intellect was given by Him as I said ab initio. The basic thing I want us to address first is his EXISTENCE. There are many other things that can be drawn from that.

What is your own take about the existence of God first? That's a good place to start for me as well. Do you believe in his existence? If yes, talk about what you know about him. If no, state reasons.

I want to wind you up a little...

Does the bold not mean that God is nothing?
Re: I'm So Convinced That God Doesn't Not Exist by destinedtee(m): 11:14pm On Jun 15
sonmvayina:


I don't "believe"..I "know" God exist. It is not a question of believe for me. It is a question of knowing..The Creator is consciousness personified..

Not a man or a jew or a genie that grants wishes..
Okay... Good. I also agree He is not a man. He isn't "nothing" either as your last post suggested.

I believe this God wants us to know Him. That is where a lot of mortals are missing it. From the evidence based folks to the religious ones.....

However, I believe there is a connection between mortal man and the Immortal God. A sincere quest to know him wouldn't go unanswered . Religion isn't the answer to finding and knowing God. It is way beyond that.

The starting point for such a journey is to know He exists. To be candid with you, there are a lot of things I may not be able to explain to you. I believed and have come to KNOW some things about this God. The entry point for every individual is the same though the experiences that leads us to the entry point could very well vary / differ. The most important thing thing is to get to that point where one believes He is through faith in Christ Jesus. A whole lot of things will start to unfold from there about God.

Being a church goer (religious person) ISN'T the same as being a Christian as a lot of people erroneously think. Walking about in the campus of a university doesn't automatically translate to studentship right... Being a student of a university is by admission and not visitation or strolling about.


Blessings!!!
Re: I'm So Convinced That God Doesn't Not Exist by Workch: 7:29am On Jun 16
sonmvayina:


What did you feel ?
I don’t understand how it correlate with the existence of god.
Re: I'm So Convinced That God Doesn't Not Exist by LordReed(m): 8:26am On Jun 16
Boss13:


That you exist, is sufficient proof that GOD exist.

If that is your proof then you must accept that other creator gods exist.
Re: I'm So Convinced That God Doesn't Not Exist by LordReed(m): 8:27am On Jun 16
sonmvayina:


I don't "believe"..I "know" God exist. It is not a question of believe for me. It is a question of knowing..The Creator is consciousness personified..

Not a man or a jew or a genie that grants wishes..

How did you come by this knowledge? And what gives you confidence in the validity of that knowledge?

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