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Re: Is The Fg Really Serious About Improving Power Supply? by Guyman02: 12:47pm On May 10, 2011
johnie:

Technical lapses threaten 1,074 mw power plant

Tuesday, 10 May 2011 00:00 By Obiora Aduba (Lagos) and Gordi Udeajah (Umuahia

STARTLING revelations that the N1.3 billion ($8.5 million) gas pipeline being laid to the Alaoji Power Plant in Aba, Abia State, is not suitable for the facility may compel the Nigerian National Petroleum Corporation (NNPC) to review the project.

The Guardian learnt that both the size and nature of the pipeline to transport gas to the plant cannot effectively convey the product because the pressure level is very low.


The NNPC management, it has now been learnt, was told that the old 12 inches low-pressure pipeline could carry enough gas for the first two units of the 1,074 megawatts Alaoji plant, which were scheduled to come on stream in November 2010.

Five months after, neither the plant nor the gas pipeline is ready, thereby threatening national electricity growth projections.

The new 18 inches pipeline is supposed to supply gas to the first two turbines of the Alaoji plant to generate 240MW pending the time the main pipeline measuring some 25 kilometres by 24 inches is completed, thus availing the nation of 1,074MW.

Too much talk talk. I worked in that plant (Alaoji) as a technical Adviser, and I have told the government that the EPC Contractor Rockson Engineering does not have the capability to deliver on such a huge turnkey project because there hands are full with too many power contracts.
Even in America where i have worked a project of such magnitude will require at least 3,000 workers (both skilled and unskilled) working simultaneously; both what I saw on site four years ago and till date is just a paltry 250 workers who only work during sunlight on the open cycle plant not to mention the inactivity on the combined cycle phase.
The turbines have been skidded on the foundations after the problem of crossing Imo River was solved at a huge sum, but the switch-yard is far from being ready; so how do you even evacuate any power generated?
Our concern is not only on the integrity of the pipelines but on the turbines and generators which have been poorly preserved since the were imported into the country in 2005.
Alaoji power plant should have been completed since 2007 and here we are today talking about gas pipeline measurement 12'', 18'', 24'' (absolutely disgusting).
1074MW Alaoji if the truth be told is three years away from commissioning at the pace the work is ongoing. The pipeline issue is just a gimmick to deceive Nigerians, I am on ground there and I can say it under my NL false ID unequivocally without fear but with a lot of frustration at how the people are being lied to.
The power situation in the country with the current trend is far from being solved unless GEJ decides to face fact which he will find difficult to do at least in the next one year because the biggest contributors to his election campaign are contractors, manufacturers and consultants in the power sector where a bulk of the nations budget is being sunk without commensurate level of delivery.
Re: Is The Fg Really Serious About Improving Power Supply? by queensmith: 1:04pm On May 10, 2011
so all the above concludes it!! the FG isnt serious at all about improving power supply because under the pretense of getting it fixed and handing out contracts they are simply filling their pockets! no doubt with billions of dollars from gasoline money!


Now what are we going to do about it??
Re: Is The Fg Really Serious About Improving Power Supply? by samtoye(m): 1:12pm On May 10, 2011
This was the same old story OBJ gave us for 8 years, now we have started again, Nigerians are everly gullible!!!!
Re: Is The Fg Really Serious About Improving Power Supply? by CrudeOil2(m): 1:19pm On May 10, 2011
Misinformation and ignorance is deforming the Nigerian public. Get informed.
Re: Is The Fg Really Serious About Improving Power Supply? by ziccoit: 1:23pm On May 10, 2011
Guk:

Whilst one is hopeful, we should also hold our leaders accountable. It is saddening that they can blow trumpet that Multi Billions =N= spent to generate 375MW. Thats just enough to power 156,250 electric kettles & d VP is proud to blow grammar on TV about it. We are not serious, we spend too much to achieve little things & he was also proud to say the WHole President & C in C will commission in in 6 months time. Ask how much the visit of the VP & President has & will cost Nigeria. Such ceremonies shld be left to local govt chairman. Absolutely nothing to celebrate. My fear is GEJ will empty d treasury to actualise ds promise.

But on a positive note, lets be hopeful

Lol,  PHCN engineers would use 6months to install a transformer built by technical college students after importation that took a whole year to get into Nigeria.

Same goes to Presido and vice-presido bragging over a project that local government chairman should implement without stress? We are in big, big, big, big problems.
Re: Is The Fg Really Serious About Improving Power Supply? by marjo: 1:27pm On May 10, 2011
I have always wondered why our govt cannot look into alternative sources e.g solar and wind in the north, wind and hydro in the southeast/southsouth as alternative means of power generation . The dutch used wind generated power, the Congolese use hydro generated power. why cant we harness all these alternative sources. i am not a technical person but let the experts come out with ideas.
Re: Is The Fg Really Serious About Improving Power Supply? by Rhino5dm: 1:32pm On May 10, 2011
FRESH AIR 2011!!!!
Wetin una don see? Na God go punish all the people wey carry their hand vote 'umblella'.
Mu he he cheesy cheesy
Re: Is The Fg Really Serious About Improving Power Supply? by victor2exl(m): 1:37pm On May 10, 2011
Power sector has been ogonized, so Nigerian should stop dreaming, there is notion that if there is stable supply the river Nile{River Niger} will cause unforeseen destruction,
Re: Is The Fg Really Serious About Improving Power Supply? by bdman: 1:45pm On May 10, 2011
it still the same old story all what the VP is doing is visiting obj old project, the best is dis-centralizing the power sector let each state generate and distribute in the same state not after generating from Lagos it will now been used in the north,if it continue let dis i belt you mr president might not be able to give constant power sully.
Re: Is The Fg Really Serious About Improving Power Supply? by dklex(m): 2:15pm On May 10, 2011
I BEG OOOOO WE NO GET LIGHT FOR MY SIDE FOR THE PAST 18 MONTHS NOW, DIS NA DEMOCRACY OR WETIN ? HABBAAAAAAA. GOD BLESS NIGERIA
Re: Is The Fg Really Serious About Improving Power Supply? by justokey(m): 2:28pm On May 10, 2011
The reveletions from Guyman02 and Enyejo are scary. So no end to darkness in sight yet? When i changed my Gen set this January, i was hoping that it would be my last Gen. Seems i have to adjust my assumptions. I want to believe that all you guys are alarmists. Surely GEJ knows that a failure in his power policies is a failure of his administration.
Re: Is The Fg Really Serious About Improving Power Supply? by Abiodun234: 2:40pm On May 10, 2011
I guess this might help you answer your questions

-The Power plants (NIPP or IPP) that are being commissioned are not products of this administration; they were started by OBJ administration (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Integrated_Power_Project) and suspended by President Yaradua for a while due to corruption and lack of adequate knowledge of power plant construction process. This administration might take credit for fast tracking the completion.
-It is estimated that Nigeria will require about 60,000MW by 2020 http://allafrica.com/stories/200907140120.html (the vice-president said 20,000MW http://www.vanguardngr.com/2010/07/nigeria-needs-20000mw-of-electricity-by-2020-says-vice-president-sambo/: I doubt he has his facts right). The implication of this is we have to construct at least ten (10) times the Sapele power plant every year. In the past 1 year, has this administration initiated any new power plant? I am not sure.
- It takes 3-4 years from initiation to completion of a fossil fuel power plant (we spend 6 year to complete Sapele). This means if this administration does not initiate new power plants this year, then there will not be any new  electric power (apart from the NIPP plants under construction which is estimated to generate about 5000MW: http://allafrica.com/stories/201007150220.html) injection into the national grid. Which means we might just have like 8000 – 90000 MW by 2015 (times two of what we now have) except renewable energy systems are adopted.  The implication of this is: Our power condition might just improve a bit considering increase in manufacturing activities since they will be given priority.
-Is the transmission network (GRID) on ground capable of evacuating  5000MW, talk less of 9000MW?
-Privatization of power plants as shown in the road map is good but it should not stop the government continual investment in power generation and transmission. The buyers of this power plant are business men hence, they will want a return on their initial investment before investing more (in fact they might be looking at using their profits for expansion, we never can tell). In my own opinion we are likely not going to see new power stations been initiated till 2013 and by then there will be some level of fear concerning  2015 election since Jonathan is not going to be running (especially with regards to policy changes, remember Yaradua reversed most of Obasanjo policies).
-The government is suppose to be in charge of the transmission system (TCN), at the moment there are power plants capable of generating power but there is no transmission facility to evacuate the generated power (Am not too certain about this but I think I read it) . If the government is serious, massive expansion of the nation grid should have reached an appreciable stage by now.
-Another major question is this: is this government ready to fight the cabals that profits from generator and diesel import? I am not sure except the president changes after may 29th.
Please I will appreciate contrary views with proofs, it will help me widen my views.

Cheers
Re: Is The Fg Really Serious About Improving Power Supply? by Abiodun234: 2:50pm On May 10, 2011
I just fund this:
http://indepthafrica.com/nigeria/headlines/uk-body-projects-7046mw-power-generation-in-nigeria-by-2020/
You might want to still maintain good relationship with your generator technician and diesel supplier grin
cheers
Re: Is The Fg Really Serious About Improving Power Supply? by kholis(m): 4:28pm On May 10, 2011
GEJ may mean well but the corruption in the power sector is above his reach. There are people who gain huge economic windfall from the comatose power situation in this country. Those powerful people are the owners of refineries outside the country which includes some of our past leaders who MUST frustrate any progressive move in this regard and GEJ is aware of this fact. Therefore it becomes ideal to continue the culture of heaping hope on the people while waiting to see how it all plays out.

The day you hear that the federal govt has made practical steps towards refining our crude oil within the country, then the real solution to fixing the power sector has begun in earnest. That is where our dear president should start from and not rhetoric like; road map, mega watts, national grid etc. Anything short of that is mere gimmick. Believe it or not.
Re: Is The Fg Really Serious About Improving Power Supply? by Gbenge77(m): 6:20pm On May 10, 2011
We shall have to wait and see.
Re: Is The Fg Really Serious About Improving Power Supply? by fatherab1: 6:32pm On May 10, 2011
kholis:

GEJ may mean well but the corruption in the power sector is above his reach. There are people who gain huge economic windfall from the comatose power situation in this country. Those powerful people are the owners of refineries outside the country which includes some of our past leaders who MUST frustrate any progressive move in this regard and GEJ is aware of this fact. Therefore it becomes ideal to continue the culture of heaping hope on the people while waiting to see how it all plays out.

The day you hear that the federal govt has made practical steps towards refining our crude oil within the country, then the real solution to fixing the power sector has begun in earnest. That is where our dear president should start from and not rhetoric like; road map, mega watts, national grid etc. Anything short of that is mere gimmick. Believe it or not.

God bless your mama
Re: Is The Fg Really Serious About Improving Power Supply? by ektbear: 6:52pm On May 10, 2011
Abiodun234:

-The government is suppose to be in charge of the transmission system (TCN), at the moment there are power plants capable of generating power but there is no transmission facility to evacuate the generated power (Am not too certain about this but I think I read it) . If the government is serious, massive expansion of the nation grid should have reached an appreciable stage by now.

I read this as well. The transmission grid will need to be upgraded a lot. It really is the weakest link in this whole system.

However, I'm starting to wonder if the problems might be overstated? Whoever buys the Eko and Ikeja discos probably won't need to use the national grid; they'll just cut out TCN and deal directly with the power plant, perhaps? Same for whoever buys the SE zone disco (Enugu disco is the name, iirc).

If none of those three discos is dependent on the national grid, then that places less burden on TCN. Who knows though, will be interesting to see what the different discos do.
Re: Is The Fg Really Serious About Improving Power Supply? by popoyeh(m): 9:19am On May 11, 2011
The power situation will improve, I'm sure of it.
Kudos to GEJ, power has improved during His administration compared to his late predecessor's. Although, the constancy has reduced after the elections, nonetheless, I experienced 24hrs power supply for the first time in my entire years of existence on the planet earth and my friends and I celebrated with a couple of bottles.

P.S.
I reside at the 'centre of combo' Agarawu, Lagos Island.
Re: Is The Fg Really Serious About Improving Power Supply? by johnie: 9:34am On May 11, 2011
Interestingly, the VP's visit and completion and commissioning of the projects was originally scheduled for last year!


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Nigeria: Sambo to Visit Sapele, Other Power Project Sites

Golu Timothy

30 July 2010



Abuja — The Vice President, Mohammed Namadi Sambo is ready to commence the inspection of power project sites at Sapele, Alaoje and Olorunsogo in the first week of August 2010 to ascertain the extent of work preparatory to their completion and commissioning before the end of the year.

He disclosed this yesterday in Abuja during a continuation meeting on hydro power projects to specifically discuss the progress on Mambilla, Zungeru and Gurara phase two projects. The meeting which was in furtherance to Federal Government's resolve to improve power supply in Nigeria was held at the State House.

The vice president in his address called for the rehabilitation and upgrading of existing major dams in the country including Shiroro, Kainji and Jebba hydro power stations.

It will be recalled that the committee examined the possibility of generating 675 megawatts of electricity at Sapele, Alaoje and Oloronshogo which were to contribute to the 225 megawatts of electricity each to the national grid.

The vice president said the focus of the FG was to look into the contribution of small and medium hydro power facilities in the country. He directed that the committee working on coal potential in Nigeria be co-opted as part of the power meetings.


The meeting examined two crucial issues bordering on the formal appointment of consultants for supervision and grant of money for advance payment for the contract involving Zungeru and Gurara phase two hydro power projects to be awarded this year.

Earlier it was observed that an Extra-ministerial committee chaired by Engr. Olapade, set up on April 27 this year and comprising of members from Ministry of Environment, Federal Ministry of Power, Power Holding Company of Nigeria (PHCN) and three co-opted members from the Energy Commission of Nigeria, Infrastructure Concession Regulatory Commission (ICRC) and Nigeria Electricity Energy Commission (NERC) were charged with the responsibility of examining the potentials of establishing a coal power plant.


http://allafrica.com/stories/201007300449.html
Re: Is The Fg Really Serious About Improving Power Supply? by otokx(m): 10:21am On May 11, 2011
God bless Guyman02 and Johnie for revealing the hard bitter truth.
Re: Is The Fg Really Serious About Improving Power Supply? by Rhino5dm: 10:54am On May 11, 2011
Those who voted for 'Akara' not 'moi moi' can eat thier humble pie in pieces.
Re: Is The Fg Really Serious About Improving Power Supply? by obaf(m): 12:08pm On May 11, 2011
As Fela will say: Nigerians like suffering & smilling!!!
its a pity we will all have to suffer all these pains together for choosing weak and corrupt leaders!!!
GEJ or whatever had been handling Electricity since he came to power with Yaradua, he has involved himself in dirty deals of PHCN. It is difficult for him to now come and correct anything.
He cant even control the panel, because he had shard money with them in the past, so he cant even make right decisions anymore, he's now shouting, he wants to sell PHCN.
Abeg, Nigerians should be ready for what they voted for!!!
Re: Is The Fg Really Serious About Improving Power Supply? by blacksta(m): 12:13pm On May 11, 2011
Interesting - You will never find the likes of beaf and his cohorts on this thread - where accurate facts are being posted - yet they go around brain washing us with GEJ propaganda

The fact remains - GEJ is not genuine enough to tackle the monster called electricity generation and transmission in Nigeria
Re: Is The Fg Really Serious About Improving Power Supply? by kabarka(m): 12:37pm On May 11, 2011
marjo:

I have always wondered why our govt cannot look into alternative sources e.g solar and wind in the north, wind and hydro in the southeast/southsouth as alternative means of power generation . The dutch used wind generated power, the Congolese use hydro generated power. why cant we harness all these alternative sources. i am not a technical person but let the experts come out with ideas.

Nigeria govt officials are interested in where new contracts will be awarded so that more money will be spent.
Re: Is The Fg Really Serious About Improving Power Supply? by playmode(m): 1:12pm On May 11, 2011
The reality of it is that Nigeria does not have competent leaders in all spheres of Government.Our politicians who get appointed to ministerial post are always clueless about how to handle their portfolio.

In civilized countries they only appoint people who are qualified Energy specialists to handle the ministry of Energy but in Nigeria even an ex-farmer will be appointed as the Minister of Energy.

I feel at the stage we are in now, Nigeria needs foreign brains.By foreign brains i mean we should get Foreign Energy Specialist to assist us with great ideas to improve the Energy sector.GEJ can appoint a ceremonial Minister of Energy who will be a Nigeria citizen and at the same time appoint a  qualified non-Nigerian Energy to be the Administrative head of the ministry of Energy.This individual could be from Japan ,south korea or Germany.

The minister himself will just be a ceremonial minister who only reads speeches and sign documents but the think tanks and the administrator of the ministry will be a foreign specialist.We really need a displined individual to sort out the Ministry of Energy without fear or favor.I seriously doubt that there is any Nigerian amongst the current political class who could do that.
Re: Is The Fg Really Serious About Improving Power Supply? by efisher(m): 1:13pm On May 11, 2011
I am 100% sure that there are millions of Nigerians (including myself) who are ready to pay any charge (no matter how expensive the tarrif is) for 100% power availability. The private sector can make it happen. Prices will settle themselves afterwards.
Re: Is The Fg Really Serious About Improving Power Supply? by Abiodun234: 2:20pm On May 11, 2011
@Marjo
Challenges facing renewable energy in Nigeria:
-Initial investment  for renewable energy system are quite high, hence the government needs to provide incentives such as subsidy, tax exemption, feed-in-tariffs etc. to encourage investment in such systems. At the moment there are no policies for renewable energy systems on ground, all we have is a road map written in 2006 with no execution talk less of incentives.
-Renewable energy systems require adaptation to the environment in question. We just go  to China import and install without considering the engineering and environmental requirements. This is the reason why most of the solar powered street light fails after 3 months of installation. There is no support for R&grin.
-Nigeria is a gas producing nation, we have gas in abundant which we just flare, in fact I read an article in the London times (I think)  sometimes ago, it was said the amount of gas flared in Nigeria is capable of providing 3 times the electricity needs of Germany. 
-Above all, lack of political will because I believe the government have access to experts in this fields.

With more than half of Nigerians not connected to the national grid we definitely can’t afford to ignore power generation from renewable energy sources because they are capable of providing power at the point of need hence no need to the Transmission/grid investment. The duration of setting up renewable power plants are also shorter hence they could help meet immediate power requirements and they provide more jobs per electricity generated.

@ekt bear
The discos can not by-pass TCN because:
-The distribution network is not designed to handle large amount of power, they are very lossy. This is because they are designed to operate at medium and low voltage level.
-The power station generates power at a different voltage from what is required by the distribution network hence the needs for sub-stations. If the Disco and generating company decides to by-pass TCN they will be required to construct substations of their own.
-The law does not permit it.
-Security and redundancy issues:  if TCN is removed out of the equation, there is a possibility for the distributing company and the generating company to form a merger or acquire each other hence, creating a monopolised system. In situation whereby a major power plants fails or is shut down intentionally, there is a need to get power from other generating stations outside you environment.
Re: Is The Fg Really Serious About Improving Power Supply? by ekubear1: 2:31pm On May 11, 2011
Abiodun234:

@ekt bear
The discos can not by-pass TCN because:
-The distribution network is not designed to handle large amount of power, they are very lossy. This is because they are designed to operate at medium and low voltage level.
But you can generate different voltage levels from the power plant, right? The power plants don't produce high voltage power, right? I thought they step up the voltage and then convert to AC before sending onto the transmission grid.


-The power station generates power at a different voltage from what is required by the distribution network hence the needs for sub-stations. If the Disco and generating company decides to by-pass TCN they will be required to construct substations of their own.
Shouldn't be that big an issue, though.


-The law does not permit it.
You are saying that by law, the discos will have to buy their electricity from TCN? where does it say this?


-Security and redundancy issues:  if TCN is removed out of the equation, there is a possibility for the distributing company and the generating company to form a merger or acquire each other hence, creating a monopolised system.
It doesn't need to be that way. . . you can simply maintain the generating company as a separate entity and negotiate to buy electricity from them.


In situation whereby a major power plants fails or is shut down intentionally, there is a need to get power from other generating stations outside you environment.
This is the only real issue, lack of redundancy. But I think it can be worth it, if you can avoid having to deal with TCN. Plus you can create a bit of redundancy by using several power plants, etc.

I'd imagine that if you own the two Lagos discos or the Enugu Disco, you'd investigate doing it (since power can be generated locally nearby, area that you are serving is small land-mass wise.)

You avoid having to deal with the government entirely if you negotiate directly with your power plants. This seems a very good thing to me. . . likely your profit is higher, and you avoid having to deal with TCN and their issues.
Re: Is The Fg Really Serious About Improving Power Supply? by Abiodun234: 3:11pm On May 11, 2011
@eku_Bear
But you can generate different voltage levels from the power plant, right? The power plants don't produce high voltage power, right? I thought they step up the voltage and then convert to AC before sending onto the transmission grid
Let me put it this way: The distribution network is not designed to carry large power over a large distance hence the need for transmission network. There is a standard for outputted voltage form power generating station just as you can not change the voltage of your small diesel generators from 240V. (I stand to be correct though).

Shouldn't be that big an issue, though

I think it is, bypassing is an issue because of the cost associated with it. Substations are capital intensive, also why construct a new one when you can lease.

You are saying that by law, the discos will have to buy their electricity from TCN? where does it say this?

The law states that once you generate above a particular amount of electric power you have to evacuate to the grid. I think its 1MW (am not sure as i can not access a reference at this time).

It doesn't need to be that way. . . you can simply maintain the generating company as a separate entity and negotiate to buy electricity from them.

The generating and distributing company are separate companies but they the quire each other and create a monopoly if TCN is removed from the equation. For example in the UK, Eon generates and distribute but they have to first send what they generate to the national grid and then buy back from national grid for distribution. the TCN is suppose to regulate the whole system and that is why its not privatised (only the management would be privatised).

This is the only real issue, lack of redundancy. But I think it can be worth it, if you can avoid having to deal with TCN. Plus you can create a bit of redundancy by using several power plants, etc.


Several power plants means you generate more than you require or you construct some power plants as standby. This is too expensive an option in my view. In fact, some countries countries in Europe are interconnected i.e. A grid outside their own national grid such that in case of any eventuality they can easily import electricity.
I'magine if you own the two Lagos disco or the Enugu Disco. You avoid having to deal with the government entirely if you negotiate directly with your power plants. This seems a very good thing to me. . . likely your profit is higher, and you avoid having to deal with TCN and their issues.

This might be good for the bussiness owner but definately bad for the masses. You see my problem with monopoly, You are already envisaging higher profit. grin
Re: Is The Fg Really Serious About Improving Power Supply? by ektbear: 3:25pm On May 11, 2011

Let me put it this way: The distribution network is not designed to carry large power over a large distance hence the need for transmission network. There is a standard for outputted voltage form power generating station just as you can not change the voltage of your small diesel generators from 240V. (I stand to be correct though).
But I don't need to transmit a large distance. The picture looks like this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Electricity_grid_simple-_North_America.svg

Well, if I'm generating my electricity in Lagos State (either me or some power plant), then what is the point of sending it to the grid when I can just connect directly to my distribution network?


I think it is, bypassing is an issue because of the cost associated with it. Substations are capital intensive, also why construct a new one when you can lease.
Alright, I would need a substation of some sort anyway, to step down from the transmission grid voltage to the voltage for customers. So I don't see how this matters. Rather than my substantial stepping down from high-voltage electricity from TCN, instead if steps up (or down) from low-voltage electricity from the power plant.

I don't see why my cost increases.


The law states that once you generate above a particular amount of electric power you have to evacuate to the grid. I think its 1MW (am not sure as i can not access a reference at this time).
Hrm, unfortunate. Seems to me that law should be scrapped if so. . . people should be able to do whatever they want with the electricity they generate.


The generating and distributing company are separate companies but they the quire each other and create a monopoly if TCN is removed from the equation. For example in the UK, Eon generates and distribute but they have to first send what they generate to the national grid and then buy back from national grid for distribution. the TCN is suppose to regulate the whole system and that is why its not privatised (only the management would be privatised).
Distribution company has a monopoly regardless, no? I don't see how anything changes. It isn't as if the customer can buy electricity from someone else.


Several power plants means you generate more than you require or you construct some power plants as standby. This is too expensive an option in my view. In fact, some countries countries in Europe are interconnected i.e. A grid outside their own national grid such that in case of any eventuality they can easily import electricity.
Well, no, I was thinking more if your needs are 1000 MW, then you source from say 5 local 200 MW plants. That way if one goes down for repairs, you aren't completely screwed.

Or you could buy 800MW directly from the power plant, 200 MW from the grid.


This might be good for the bussiness owner but definately bad for the masses. You see my problem with monopoly, You are already envisaging  higher profit.
Nope, it is great for both sides. Transmission losses are like 9%. . . if I can cut that out, then I can increase my profit and/or reduce the cost of the electricity I sell. Cutting out the (unnecessary) middle man doesn't hurt, in places like say Lagos, the SS and SE where you can generate electricity locally.
Re: Is The Fg Really Serious About Improving Power Supply? by Abiodun234: 4:04pm On May 11, 2011
@ekt_bear

Your proposition is workable but dangerous in my view.

On redundancy issues, imagine Egbin power station with a capacity of 1320MW failing or going off-line and there is not TCN/grid.

Distribution company has a monopoly regardless, no? I don't see how anything changes. It isn't as if the customer can buy electricity from someone else.

The system can be developed to a stage whereby you can change disco e.g in the UK. This is only possible because they have a central transmission system, but am not sure Nigeria's system would grow towards that direction.

Anyway Nigeria problem always require Nigerian solutions, imported solutions don't work most of the time. grin.
Re: Is The Fg Really Serious About Improving Power Supply? by ektbear: 4:15pm On May 11, 2011
Abiodun234:

On redundancy issues, imagine Egbin power station with a capacity of 1320MW failing or going off-line and there is not TCN/grid.
Right, so if you say own Eko or Ikeja disco and you are getting 100% of your power needs from Egbin and it goes down, you are in a lot of trouble. But since likely Lagos would consume 10+ GW of electricity if it were widely available, you'd only depend on Egbin for 13% of your energy. So life isn't so bad.

The key is not to be dependent on one guy for electricity.

Anyway, one can still source electricity from TCN. But I'm starting to think that the less you have to deal with them, the better. Maybe get 50% of your electricity from them, 50% directly from the power plants. . . something like that.


The system can be developed to a stage whereby you can change disco e.g in the UK. This is only possible because they have a central transmission system, but am not sure Nigeria's system would grow towards that direction.
How do I change discos?

Like, the disco owns the wires connected to my property/house, right? They are inherently a monopoly, I think.


Anyway Nigeria problem always require Nigerian solutions, imported solutions don't work most of the time. grin.
Heh, true.

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