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Re: The Errors Of Oneness Doctrine by OkCornel(m): 7:58pm On Jul 05
Kingsnairaland:
Unless you learnt your Trinity in a wrong way

God is one person.....
appearing in the form of father, son, holy spirit

We are his image

We appear and are made up of
Body, soul, spirit

So how many beings did David see in Psalms 110 v 1 and Matthew 22 v 41-45? undecided
Re: The Errors Of Oneness Doctrine by OkCornel(m): 8:00pm On Jul 05
livingchrist:
Modalism is the belief that God is one person who only has three names or has three office, however trinity is the doctrine that teaches that God is a trinity of persons.
Trinity has alot of backing from the scriptures right from Genesis when God said "let us make man" "us" used is a plural word for more than one persons and "Elohim" itself is a plural form of Eloi it literally means Gods.
Deuteronomy 6:4 also backs the trinity the the Lord thy God is one God.
The word translated as one is Echad which means a unity of plurality.
Yachad is used for a single individual,
Again, take a look at the scripture below,

Isaiah 48:16
Come ye near unto me, hear ye this; I have not spoken in secret from the beginning; from the time that it was, there am I: and now the Lord GOD, and his Spirit, hath sent me.

The person who is speaking prophetically is Jesus the one being sent, he is sent by the Lord God and his spirit, note how the spirit was separated from the Lord God by the use of "and" Jesus was sent by God the father and the Holy spirit making three persons.

The new testament is filled with the teaching of the trinity.

Oneness penticostal like every other false religion denies the scripture and instead hold to emotional/ psuedo-logical appeal instead.

What they do is actually calling Jesus a liar, how do you preach a Jesus you do not believe his words?

Jesus didnt glorify himself but the father.
Jesus said he was sent by the father, and that his testimony is true because his father also testify of him fulfilling the law, If Jesus was the same person as the father, he would have being lying and therefore broke his own law, the devil would have used that as an accusation.

Jesus said he has being with the father and knows everything the father does, infact John tells us Jesus was with God.

Jesus said he does not glorify himself, meaning some one else glorified Jesus, did the book of proverb not teach us that we shouldnt glorify ourself?

Jesus also said that he would send someone like himself who is the holy spirit.

When Jesus ascended to heaven he said he is going back to the father.

When stephen saw Jesus he saw Jesus standing at God's right hand,

John on the Island of pathos saw someone sitting on the throne with the lamb coming to take a book from him,

The epistles of the apostles are filled with greetings and teachings separating the three personalities.
For example, the Christian creed is
One faith, one hope, one baptism, one spirit, on Lorr who is out Lord Jesus and one God who is the father.

The last chapter of revelation Jesus and God are sitting on the throne, the holy spirit is called the seven spirit who is also before the throne.

Thos and many more are clear teachings of the trinity

Thank you jare.

Another thing for oneness dudes to consider;

Can God be tempted?
James 1 v 13 - When tempted, no one should say, “God is tempting me.” For God cannot be tempted by evil, nor does he tempt anyone

Matthew 4 v 1 - Then Jesus was led by the Spirit into the wilderness to be tempted by the devil.

It’s either James the younger brother of Jesus is lying or Satan is no longer evil.
Re: The Errors Of Oneness Doctrine by Janosky: 11:26pm On Jul 05
livingchrist:
Modalism is the belief that God is one person who only has three names or has three office, however trinity is the doctrine that teaches that God is a trinity of persons.
Trinity has alot of backing from the scriptures right from Genesis when God said "let us make man" "us" used is a plural word for more than one persons and "Elohim" itself is a plural form of Eloi it literally means Gods.
Deuteronomy 6:4 also backs the trinity the the Lord thy God is one God.
The word translated as one is Echad which means a unity of plurality.
Yachad is used for a single individual,
Again, take a look at the scripture below,

Isaiah 48:16
Come ye near unto me, hear ye this; I have not spoken in secret from the beginning; from the time that it was, there am I: and now the Lord GOD, and his Spirit, hath sent me.

The person who is speaking prophetically is Jesus the one being sent, he is sent by the Lord God and his spirit, note how the spirit was separated from the Lord God by the use of "and" Jesus was sent by God the father and the Holy spirit making three persons.

The new testament is filled with the teaching of the trinity.

Oneness penticostal like every other false religion denies the scripture and instead hold to emotional/ psuedo-logical appeal instead.

What they do is actually calling Jesus a liar, how do you preach a Jesus you do not believe his words?

Jesus didnt glorify himself but the father.
Jesus said he was sent by the father, and that his testimony is true because his father also testify of him fulfilling the law, If Jesus was the same person as the father, he would have being lying and therefore broke his own law, the devil would have used that as an accusation.

Jesus said he has being with the father and knows everything the father does, infact John tells us Jesus was with God.

Jesus said he does not glorify himself, meaning some one else glorified Jesus, did the book of proverb not teach us that we shouldnt glorify ourself?

Jesus also said that he would send someone like himself who is the holy spirit.

When Jesus ascended to heaven he said he is going back to the father.

When stephen saw Jesus he saw Jesus standing at God's right hand,

John on the Island of pathos saw someone sitting on the throne with the lamb coming to take a book from him,

The epistles of the apostles are filled with greetings and teachings separating the three personalities.
For example, the Christian creed is
One faith, one hope, one baptism, one spirit, on Lorr who is out Lord Jesus and one God who is the father.

The last chapter of revelation Jesus and God are sitting on the throne, the holy spirit is called the seven spirit who is also before the throne.

Thos and many more are clear teachings of the trinity
When ALMIGHTY GOD Jesus ascended to heaven he said he is going back to the father.
Read your Screenshot.
Confused lots
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Re: The Errors Of Oneness Doctrine by KaideeGee(m): 2:11am On Jul 06
LoL bros, your confusing yourself, Jesus himself testifies that He and the Father are one, He also says there is only one Good and him alone should you serve.

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Re: The Errors Of Oneness Doctrine by Kingsnairaland(m): 5:01am On Jul 06
OkCornel:


You mean the same God that said;

Genesis 1 v 26;
And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.



Can “us” and “our” relate to a single being? cheesy

You find it hard to understand how God speaks

God is too powerful he speaks by wisdom look he said let us make man look at the word man

Just one person but at the end he said let them he now turn that person (one man) to them meaning God knows inside Adam there are three qualities he has (body, soul, spirit) that why he said them...

So what God was saying let this man which includes both his body and soul and spirit

Have dominion to.....

That is the same way God was saying to him self let us

Because God was referring to all his qualities

The father the son the holy spirit

God was calling on all his own characteristics in using to make another characteristics (man) just like him self
Re: The Errors Of Oneness Doctrine by livingchrist: 5:31am On Jul 06
Kingsnairaland:


You find it hard to understand how God speaks

God is too powerful he speaks by wisdom look he said let us make man look at the word man

Just one person but at the end he said let them he now turn that person (one man) to them meaning God knows inside Adam there are three qualities he has (body, soul, spirit)

So what God was saying let this man which includes both his body and soul and spirit

Have dominion to.....

That is the same way God was saying to him self let us

Because God was referring to all his qualities

The father the son the holy spirit

God was calling on all his own characteristics in using to make another characteristics just like him self


what is this? It is no longer office but quality?
This your submission is totally off.
He, his, our, yours are all personal pronoun.
When God said to Adam to multiply and fill the earth, "let them fill the earth" He was referring to the whole human race since Adam was the head of all human race, God was speaking to all humans not only Adam. All human beings were in Adam.

When God said "let us make man" It is clear there was more than one person.

Below is Jesus prayer unto the father,

John 17:5
And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was.

Jesus prayed to have the glory which he had with his father before the world was created,
Does this not tell you Jesus was present with the father that he is not an office or a quality but an actual person just like the father.

A person is not the same as a being, A person or individual is self consciousness or awareness, A being on the other hand is what someone is.
Saying there are three persons in one God does not mean there are three gods no but that there is one God but this God has three distinct center of self consciousness and so is a trinity.


Like I said before go and find out the meaning of Trinity.
Re: The Errors Of Oneness Doctrine by OkCornel(m): 6:50am On Jul 06
Kingsnairaland:


You find it hard to understand how God speaks

God is too powerful he speaks by wisdom look he said let us make man look at the word man

Just one person but at the end he said let them he now turn that person (one man) to them meaning God knows inside Adam there are three qualities he has (body, soul, spirit) that why he said them...

So what God was saying let this man which includes both his body and soul and spirit

Have dominion to.....

That is the same way God was saying to him self let us

Because God was referring to all his qualities

The father the son the holy spirit

God was calling on all his own characteristics in using to make another characteristics (man) just like him self



See how you’re taking something simple and straightforward to smash around and fit your doctrinal view rather than the truth.

Anyways, if it’s one literal being with numerous qualities as you claim, what makes it too difficult for the author in Genesis 1 to simply state “Let me create man in my image and in my likeness”?


By the way, how many beings did David see when he was in the spirit in Psalms 110 v 1 and Matthew 22 v 41-45?
Re: The Errors Of Oneness Doctrine by Kingsnairaland(m): 8:04am On Jul 06
OkCornel:


See how you’re taking something simple and straightforward to smash around and fit your doctrinal view rather than the truth.

Anyways, if it’s one literal being with numerous qualities as you claim, what makes it too difficult for the author in Genesis 1 to simply state “Let me create man in my image and in my likeness”?


By the way, how many beings did David see when he was in the spirit in Psalms 110 v 1 and Matthew 22 v 41-45?

I answered this your question here below

https://www.nairaland.com/6633634/just-like-god-satan-also/8
Re: The Errors Of Oneness Doctrine by OkCornel(m): 8:49am On Jul 06
Kingsnairaland:


I answered this your question here below

https://www.nairaland.com/6633634/just-like-god-satan-also/8

Can you paste the link to the specific post that explained how many beings David saw in Psalms 110 v 1 and Matthew 22 v 41-45?

What you’ve put up there is a link to the thread, I can’t see any post specifically addressing how many beings David saw.

And please don’t humor us by implying David saw one literal being talking to himself.
Re: The Errors Of Oneness Doctrine by Kingsnairaland(m): 9:09am On Jul 06
OkCornel:


Can you paste the link to the specific post that explained how many beings David saw in Psalms 110 v 1 and Matthew 22 v 41-45?

What you’ve put up there is a link to the thread, I can’t see any post specifically addressing how many beings David saw.

And please don’t humor us by implying David saw one literal being talking to himself.

https://www.nairaland.com/6633634/just-like-god-satan-also/9
Re: The Errors Of Oneness Doctrine by OkCornel(m): 9:34am On Jul 06
Kingsnairaland:


https://www.nairaland.com/6633634/just-like-god-satan-also/9

Nice, seen it.

So I take it from your response David saw two beings.

Wait sef, we’re on the same page… mistook you for Bishopkingsley… lol

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