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Re: The Sack Letter Of Pastors In Winners Chapel Over 'Poor Church Growth' (Photo) by Ddokie: 2:58pm On Jul 19, 2021 |
phemmyfour: Okay o. You win. |
Re: The Sack Letter Of Pastors In Winners Chapel Over 'Poor Church Growth' (Photo) by Masterito(m): 3:10pm On Jul 19, 2021 |
Lol employment, since it is a business, then government should start taxing them well. eRex: 1 Like |
Re: The Sack Letter Of Pastors In Winners Chapel Over 'Poor Church Growth' (Photo) by Vision101(m): 3:16pm On Jul 19, 2021 |
@Kobojunkiee ]If this is all about God, why measure this church growth you speak of? Did God say "church growth" is of importance? Did God assign anyone "kingdom advancement" tasks, assuming here you are referring to God's Kingdom of not Man's kingdom? What is oyedepo's labour in this? the growing of His kingdom/business here on earth or some assignment that God assigned him in secret? :- @me Smart man!!! Jesus sat in one place and he did not spread the gospel winning souls - Acts10:38. Paul, Peter and the rest of the early apostles sat in one place without winning souls. The purpose of the Holy Spirit upon you is for you not to expand Acts 1:8. If you think that being a pastor is for lazy people and drop outs to come and hide, try and be one. Funny people everywhere. |
Re: The Sack Letter Of Pastors In Winners Chapel Over 'Poor Church Growth' (Photo) by capnies: 3:20pm On Jul 19, 2021 |
Kobojunkiee: I SAID BELIEVING ALONE CANNOT GUARANTEE ETERNAL LIFE. YOU MUST WORK OUT YOUR SALVATION TO MERIT ETERNAL LIFE |
Re: The Sack Letter Of Pastors In Winners Chapel Over 'Poor Church Growth' (Photo) by Vision101(m): 3:23pm On Jul 19, 2021 |
@Kobojunkiee It is not? Do we not recieve it from Jesus Christ at the point of Salvation from Death? What other gift does Jesus Christ hand out when He redeems a one from Death? :- @me Keep twisting. What Jesus did on the cross was to show everyone the way to salvation. It's not the end of salvation. Every man must work out his own salvation. |
Re: The Sack Letter Of Pastors In Winners Chapel Over 'Poor Church Growth' (Photo) by justmondris: 3:30pm On Jul 19, 2021 |
Does church growth index mean offering and tithe generation? Warey people |
Re: The Sack Letter Of Pastors In Winners Chapel Over 'Poor Church Growth' (Photo) by Kobojunkiee: 3:39pm On Jul 19, 2021 |
Vision101:So after reading through the Gospels where you are told that even Jesus Christ discouraged many from following Him, that His mission on earth was "soul winning"? Jesus Christ fed thousands, healed hundreds, but at the time of His death, He had only a couple dozen followers and you think His mission on earth was "soul winning"? Jesus Christ sent even told His disciples that only a few people will be chosen even though many will be called to hear the Gospel , yet you are convinced that the mission is "soul winning"? Jesus Christ even declared that He alone will build His own Church implying that the administration and growth thereof is in His hands alone and you think He sent you out for "soul winning"? Way too many of you are drunk on the lies you have been fed by your Pastors and Mogs who lie and use you regularly to grow their earthly kingdoms in the name of God. You actually think yourself smart believing Jesus Christ, who only offered the gospel to a few, discouraged many and also stated clearly that not all will 3enter into His Heaven sent you out on a "soul winning" mission. |
Re: The Sack Letter Of Pastors In Winners Chapel Over 'Poor Church Growth' (Photo) by Kobojunkiee: 3:41pm On Jul 19, 2021 |
Vision101:All I have done there is ask simple direct questions but you instead lie that I twist the Bible? Are you certain that you are in your right mind at all? If you don't understand the question,ask . |
Re: The Sack Letter Of Pastors In Winners Chapel Over 'Poor Church Growth' (Photo) by ayuataiwo(m): 3:54pm On Jul 19, 2021 |
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Re: The Sack Letter Of Pastors In Winners Chapel Over 'Poor Church Growth' (Photo) by Kobojunkiee: 3:59pm On Jul 19, 2021 |
justmondris:If you do not understand what growth or growth index means, at least make Google your friend in this. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Church_Growth |
Re: The Sack Letter Of Pastors In Winners Chapel Over 'Poor Church Growth' (Photo) by dchamp234(m): 4:07pm On Jul 19, 2021 |
phemmyfour:He's still a pastor in which church? Maybe you're one of them. Please read the letter again. And tell me what it says. when you hand over over everything in your care to the area pastor and we wish you well in your future endeavors. |
Re: The Sack Letter Of Pastors In Winners Chapel Over 'Poor Church Growth' (Photo) by Kobojunkiee: 4:10pm On Jul 19, 2021 |
capnies:According to Jesus Christ, believing is what you need to have eternal life. You already merit eternal life by believing in Jesus Christ - that is what that command demands you do. So again, you don't believe what Jesus Christ said then in John 3 vs 16 -21 & John 3 vs 36 & john 6 vs 43 - 47 and also john 10? It's either you believe Him, or you don't. Which one is it? |
Re: The Sack Letter Of Pastors In Winners Chapel Over 'Poor Church Growth' (Photo) by Kobojunkiee: 4:15pm On Jul 19, 2021 |
coputa:Jesus Christ said He will build His own Church, your churches are instead built by the hands of your pastors and their Mogs. So do not confuse two different things here. The mission Jesus Christ gave to those who belong in His Church is that they go out and preach His Gospel to all. "Soul winning" is instead the mission your pastors gives you in their churches..it has nothing to do with what God called us to do since we have no power given to us to win souls let alone save anyone. This case with this church and its former Pastors is simply about world business and nothing else. |
Re: The Sack Letter Of Pastors In Winners Chapel Over 'Poor Church Growth' (Photo) by Kobojunkiee: 4:20pm On Jul 19, 2021 |
Chibuking1402:The parable of the 10 talents has absolutely nothing to do with what you describe. Jesus Christ even explained how that parable applies 2when He insisted that those who use the understanding they have been given will recieve more understanding but those who do not use the understanding they have will have even that which they have taken from them by God. Twisting scriptural texts in order to justify worldly dealings is unbecoming for one who believes himself to be of God, don't you think? If you do not understand church growth, I suggest you make Google your friend..it is an aspect of running of even a church business in this world https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Church_Growth |
Re: The Sack Letter Of Pastors In Winners Chapel Over 'Poor Church Growth' (Photo) by Hayfield26: 4:20pm On Jul 19, 2021 |
That last part shaaaa! "May you find..." Does that mean hopefully if God recalls the pastor-in-charge? blamingthedevil: |
Re: The Sack Letter Of Pastors In Winners Chapel Over 'Poor Church Growth' (Photo) by Kobojunkiee: 4:22pm On Jul 19, 2021 |
omonighoblessing:Nah! Jesus Christ already told you even easier way to that via the parable of the 10 talents. He said if you use even the little sense you have right now in understanding Him, more understanding will be given you. But if you refuse, even the little understanding you previously had will be taken away from you. That is probably why many of you are blind now to the truth that has been before the world for 2000 years now. |
Re: The Sack Letter Of Pastors In Winners Chapel Over 'Poor Church Growth' (Photo) by Oshokalo: 4:23pm On Jul 19, 2021 |
Ceenachi:so he don become marketing stuff with target given to them |
Re: The Sack Letter Of Pastors In Winners Chapel Over 'Poor Church Growth' (Photo) by Kobojunkiee: 4:25pm On Jul 19, 2021 |
pafra:God never asked anyone to "win souls". Read and understand that book using the understanding that God has given you so you can receive more from Him as a result- Matthew 25 vs 14 - 30 |
Re: The Sack Letter Of Pastors In Winners Chapel Over 'Poor Church Growth' (Photo) by karnap(m): 4:28pm On Jul 19, 2021 |
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Re: The Sack Letter Of Pastors In Winners Chapel Over 'Poor Church Growth' (Photo) by karnap(m): 4:30pm On Jul 19, 2021 |
rittanie:you have a great thoughts we can be friend you know |
Re: The Sack Letter Of Pastors In Winners Chapel Over 'Poor Church Growth' (Photo) by smartNerd: 4:30pm On Jul 19, 2021 |
“Don’t let yesterday take up too much of today.” — Will Rogers |
Re: The Sack Letter Of Pastors In Winners Chapel Over 'Poor Church Growth' (Photo) by Jacksparrow7(m): 5:03pm On Jul 19, 2021 |
blamingthedevil:How did the letter reach your hands |
Re: The Sack Letter Of Pastors In Winners Chapel Over 'Poor Church Growth' (Photo) by Nobody: 5:15pm On Jul 19, 2021 |
stagger: I know it's strange and different from what your gods taught you. Your reaction is not strange though. It's in line with how your gods brought you up in "Christianity" (I know a specimen of brainwashing when I see one). 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: The Sack Letter Of Pastors In Winners Chapel Over 'Poor Church Growth' (Photo) by Nobody: 5:16pm On Jul 19, 2021 |
otipoju: All respect to God. He's the only All Knowing One. |
Re: The Sack Letter Of Pastors In Winners Chapel Over 'Poor Church Growth' (Photo) by Olaolufred(m): 5:16pm On Jul 19, 2021 |
Ceenachi: When I was going to that Church, My holy living as a born again Christian from Baptist drained to almost zero. To a "winner", Idiots, Stupid, cursing people everywhere (as Bishops thought) is normal. It is part of winner's form of holiness. I thank God I left to seek the kingdom of God instead of dominating the earth. Truly, Narrow is the way. However, despite the prosperity morning, afternoon and evening, the richest Men in Nigeria are Muslims and Catholics by faith. 1 Like |
Re: The Sack Letter Of Pastors In Winners Chapel Over 'Poor Church Growth' (Photo) by Nobody: 5:26pm On Jul 19, 2021 |
ogascomax: You have only one new testament passage which is 2 Cor 5:18 and 19: 18 And all things are of God, who hath reconciled us to himself by Jesus Christ, and hath given to us the ministry of reconciliation; 19 To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation. So, according to that great knowledge (that you say you have), if God has given you the ministry of healing, then you are the one doing the healing, right? At least that your interpretation of that passage. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: The Sack Letter Of Pastors In Winners Chapel Over 'Poor Church Growth' (Photo) by Egabs(m): 5:26pm On Jul 19, 2021 |
eRex:Sir can u tell us the meaning of growth index plssssssss . As a people we are a joke in this part of the world when it comes to support or bcus am a member of this church we are not a serious people |
Re: The Sack Letter Of Pastors In Winners Chapel Over 'Poor Church Growth' (Photo) by Nobody: 5:27pm On Jul 19, 2021 |
CodeTemplar: Neither. You feed them with Spaghetti and pounded yam. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: The Sack Letter Of Pastors In Winners Chapel Over 'Poor Church Growth' (Photo) by omonighoblessing(f): 5:37pm On Jul 19, 2021 |
Kobojunkiee:it is well with u |
Re: The Sack Letter Of Pastors In Winners Chapel Over 'Poor Church Growth' (Photo) by EmyGod(m): 5:53pm On Jul 19, 2021 |
Church is for winning soul but you can't sack a soul while hurting for another that you have not find. |
Re: The Sack Letter Of Pastors In Winners Chapel Over 'Poor Church Growth' (Photo) by lastchild: 5:58pm On Jul 19, 2021 |
if there was no such thing as "sack" in churches, then the pastors would go there and sleep their destinies away |
Re: The Sack Letter Of Pastors In Winners Chapel Over 'Poor Church Growth' (Photo) by Olaolufred(m): 6:07pm On Jul 19, 2021 |
lastchild: You are right as a CEO, Even Zenith, GTB and others does same. Even every private organizations does same. Hence, Living Faith Church isn't in anyway different from them. I agree with you that an investor wouldn't want his investment to die. |
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