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How Come Ijaws Are 15million People? by Omoluabi1stborn: 12:35pm On Jul 27
Abeq, who dash ijaws 15million population

They are majorly in Bayelsa, yet Bayelsa population is not up to 2million.

Or I'm I missing something


Counter thread to https://www.nairaland.com/6671149/ijaws-niger-delta-republic-showdown

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Re: How Come Ijaws Are 15million People? by Captain8(m): 3:56pm On Jul 27
u don si sey yur head nor correct... no sane man will comment here...
Re: How Come Ijaws Are 15million People? by mrvitalis(m): 3:57pm On Jul 27
Omoluabi1stborn:
Abeq, who dash ijaws 15million population

They are majorly in Bayelsa, yet Bayelsa population is not up to 2million.

Or I'm I missing something


Counter thread to https://www.nairaland.com/6671149/ijaws-niger-delta-republic-showdown
My brother leave them ooh ...Nigeria is the only country where dasert have more population than rain forest

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Re: How Come Ijaws Are 15million People? by horsepower102: 4:18pm On Jul 27
The ijaws are the water version of Fulanis. They are not even indigenous to the Niger delta region as their language is not unified nor related to languages in the area. This is an established fact by linguistic studies.

They came to so many places that they occupy today as settlers who came to fish.

Just like the ancestral home of the Fulanis is futa jalon, the ancestral home of the proto-ijaws is in coastal Ghana regions.

Their minority status and low population is the reason why they have aggressive expansionists agenda and claim those who cannot understand them or related to them.

The only reason they made progress of this abuse is that they took advantage of the post civil war situation in Nigeria were the Fulanis rewarded them with maps that falsely expanded their territories.

So many groups that ijaws say are not Igbo or ibbibio or Annang. But when those groups speak their native language, no ijaw man or woman can understand what they are saying.

Even some ijaws cannot understand each other groups language without pigeon English.

Ijaw case is like butter when this cesspit ceases to exist. For now allow them to wallow in delusions on nairaland and inflate their population to 50 million.

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Re: How Come Ijaws Are 15million People? by Danjikanbauchi: 4:21pm On Jul 27
And I have never meet anybody that is ijaw, is like they have something in common with Fulani which is lie and more lies

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Re: How Come Ijaws Are 15million People? by horsepower102: 4:24pm On Jul 27
Danjikanbauchi:
And I have never meet anybody that is ijaw, is like they have something in common with Fulani which is lie and more lies

A lot of groups that they claim their lands are just tolerating them for the sake of peace but their day of reckoning is coming. And just like the Fulanis will answer to their evils, so would the ijaws. It’s just a matter of time.

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Re: How Come Ijaws Are 15million People? by Coconuthead126: 4:30pm On Jul 27
I swear on God who made me, in all my years of staying abroad, I've only met one Ijaw person and that was far back in the USA during my Junior college year, one pretty girl like that. Apart from her, I've never seen any Ijaw person again... The Nigerians you are more than likely to meet and interact with anywhere in the diaspora are Igbos, Yorubas, Edo, and Efik/Ibibios in that particular order... the best way to ascertain if a tribe has a huge population is through the diasporan numbers of that ethnic demography... so when you put all these into consideration, you'll know there's absolutely no way Ijaw people are 15 million people, Efik/Ibibio definitely have more population than them abeg.

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Re: How Come Ijaws Are 15million People? by r4bbit: 4:30pm On Jul 27
That is a cumulative population value...
Didnt you read what you post ?


Why use only bayelsa as case study:
Where your post clearly mentioned,ondo, edo, rivers state and even countries like west Sierra Leone and east Gabon....


To add to your post ijaw languages include; Izon, Kalabari, Obolo, Ibani, Wakirike, Nkoroo, Nembe, Ogbian, Kabou, Buseni, Atala, Bille, Kula, Apoi, etc.

So there is no need to start another tribalistic thread.

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Re: How Come Ijaws Are 15million People? by horsepower102: 4:31pm On Jul 27
There is no single archaeological finding that points to ancient ijaw civilization in the Niger delta region. But you can find archeological findings of efik, Igbo, ibbibio, annang etc.

Just like the Fulanis, they are settlers that turned into occupiers.

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Re: How Come Ijaws Are 15million People? by horsepower102: 4:38pm On Jul 27
Coconuthead126:
I swear on God who made me, in all my years of staying abroad, I've only met one Ijaw person and that was far back in the USA during my Junior college year, one pretty girl like that. Apart from her, I've never seen any Ijaw person again... The Nigerians you are more than likely to meet and interact with anywhere in the diaspora are Igbos, Yorubas, Edo, and Efik/Ibibios in that particular order... the best way to ascertain if a tribe has a huge population is through the diasporan numbers of that ethnic demography... so when you put all these into consideration, you'll know there's absolutely no way Ijaw people are 15 million people, Efik/Ibibio definitely have more population than them abeg.

I suspect this is the case for most groups who actually travel around. It’s almost like their claimed population is false.
Actually it is.

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Re: How Come Ijaws Are 15million People? by r4bbit: 4:42pm On Jul 27
Coconuthead126:
I swear on God who made me, in all my years of staying abroad, I've only met one Ijaw person and that was far back in the USA during my Junior college year, one pretty girl like that. Apart from her, I've never seen any Ijaw person again... The Nigerians you are more than likely to meet and interact with anywhere in the diaspora are Igbos, Yorubas, Edo, and Efik/Ibibios in that particular order... the best way to ascertain if a tribe has a huge population is through the diasporan numbers of that ethnic demography... so when you put all these into consideration, you'll know there's absolutely no way Ijaw people are 15 million people, Efik/Ibibio definitely have more population than them abeg.

undecided
Just because you only met one of them?
Sorry that can't be use as a criteria...
Re: How Come Ijaws Are 15million People? by r4bbit: 4:42pm On Jul 27
horsepower102:


I suspect this is the case for most groups who actually travel around. It’s almost like their claimed population is false.
Actually it is.

Where is your proof?
Re: How Come Ijaws Are 15million People? by velocity25(m): 4:45pm On Jul 27
My brother Nigerian figures and statistics can be annoying,desert dwellings are more populated than rain forest, it's only in Nigeria.

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Re: How Come Ijaws Are 15million People? by richmond500: 5:14pm On Jul 27
Omoluabi1stborn:
Abeq, who dash ijaws 15million population

They are majorly in Bayelsa, yet Bayelsa population is not up to 2million.

Or I'm I missing something


Counter thread to https://www.nairaland.com/6671149/ijaws-niger-delta-republic-showdown
Bayelsa population isn't up to 2m?
Lolz, shebi ur assertions isnt coming from just PVC? In 2006 Izons are close to 2m, more than a decade later, u still feel ijaw arent 2m?
Re: How Come Ijaws Are 15million People? by Omoluabi1stborn: 5:18pm On Jul 27
richmond500:
Bayelsa population isn't up to 2m?
Lolz, shebi ur assertions isnt coming from just PVC? In 2006 Izons are close to 2m, more than a decade later, u still feel ijaw arent 2m?

This is the recent population.

Can you show me the 2006 census

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Re: How Come Ijaws Are 15million People? by richmond500: 5:18pm On Jul 27
r4bbit:
That is a cumulative population value...
Didnt you read what you post ?


Why use only bayelsa as case study:
Where your post clearly mentioned,ondo, edo, rivers state and even countries like west Sierra Leone and east Gabon....


To add to your post ijaw languages include; Izon, Kalabari, Obolo, Ibani, Wakirike, Nkoroo, Nembe, Ogbian, Kabou, Buseni, Atala, Bille, Kula, Apoi, etc.

So there is no need to start another tribalistic thread.
let's assume that each of these language has only 500 speakers, that is 7m people, Akuku Toru LGA alone should be more than 1m persons

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Re: How Come Ijaws Are 15million People? by Omoluabi1stborn: 5:20pm On Jul 27
r4bbit:
That is a cumulative population value...
Didnt you read what you post ?


Why use only bayelsa as case study:
Where your post clearly mentioned,ondo, edo, rivers state and even countries like west Sierra Leone and east Gabon....


To add to your post ijaw languages include; Izon, Kalabari, Obolo, Ibani, Wakirike, Nkoroo, Nembe, Ogbian, Kabou, Buseni, Atala, Bille, Kula, Apoi, etc.

So there is no need to start another tribalistic thread.


If they can't be populated in their home state (bayelsa) how can they be populated outside Home state

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Re: How Come Ijaws Are 15million People? by Omoluabi1stborn: 5:22pm On Jul 27
richmond500:
let's assume that each of these language has only 500 speakers, that is 7m people, Akuku Toru LGA alone should be more than 1m persons

Calm down.
Show me any country or place where we have more igbo people than SE

Show me any country or place where we have Yoruba people than SW

How can ur home state not be populated but where you migrated to are more populated

Lol, the population is fallacy
Total ijaws can't be more than 5M

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Re: How Come Ijaws Are 15million People? by richmond500: 5:22pm On Jul 27
Omoluabi1stborn:


This is the recent population.

Can you show me the 2006 census
Bayelsa population is more than 2m, I schooled there.

Ijaw has up to 20 languages, let's assume that each of these language has 500 speakers, that's about 10m people even though u know that Okrika, Kalabari and main Ijaw has more than 500 speakers each. Infact Akuku-Toru, Asari-Toru and Degema LGA alone has more than 500 persons each
Re: How Come Ijaws Are 15million People? by richmond500: 5:25pm On Jul 27
Omoluabi1stborn:


Calm down.
Show me any country or place where we have more igbo people than SE

Show me any country or place where we have Yoruba people than SW

How can ur home state not be populated but where you migrated to are more populated

Lol, the population is fallacy
Total ijaws can't be more than 5M
what do u mean home state?
We are talking of Ijaw in Rivers state, Okirika, Bonny and Kalabari are not migrants, where did u see me discussing about ijaws in north or SE, I am talking about SS

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Re: How Come Ijaws Are 15million People? by Omoluabi1stborn: 5:26pm On Jul 27
richmond500:
Bayelsa population is more than 2m, I schooled there.

Ijaw has up to 20 languages, let's assume that each of these language has 500 speakers, that's about 10m people even though u know that Okrika, Kalabari and main Ijaw has more than 500 speakers each. Infact Akuku-Toru, Asari-Toru and Degema LGA alone has more than 500 persons each

This is 2006 census and 2016

Which 10m?
Where Una wan steal am grin

Highest bayelsa population is 5M

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Re: How Come Ijaws Are 15million People? by Omoluabi1stborn: 5:28pm On Jul 27
richmond500:
what do u mean home state?
We are talking of Ijaw in Rivers state, Okirika, Bonny and Kalabari are not migrants, where did u see me discussing about ijaws in north or SE, I am talking about SS

Among all ijaws states and towns.
No be bayelsa Una dey stay as majority


If majority (bayelsa) isn't up to 3M how can all other places reach 3M where Una be minority.

U ain't the majority in Delta, Edo, Ondo, Rivers
So what r u saying?

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Re: How Come Ijaws Are 15million People? by richmond500: 5:31pm On Jul 27
Omoluabi1stborn:


This is 2006 census and 2016

Which 10m?
Where Una wan steal am grin

Highest bayelsa population is 5M
well, let's assume highest in Bayelsa is 5m, now can u add Rivers Ijaw which makes a reasonable population of the Rivers people, Delta Ijaw which is very large too and the ijaw migrants scattered in other places, even if those living outside their ancestral land is just 1m, can't common sense tell u that Ijaws are more than 10m
Re: How Come Ijaws Are 15million People? by richmond500: 5:32pm On Jul 27
Omoluabi1stborn:


Among all ijaws states and towns.
No be bayelsa Una dey stay as majority


If majority (bayelsa) isn't up to 3M how can all other places reach 3M where Una be minority.

U ain't the majority in Delta, Edo, Ondo, Rivers
So what r u saying?
in Delta and Rivers, they make a reasonable number while u can still find them in Edo and Ondo.

U should visit Rivers state and see Kalabari and Okrika
Re: How Come Ijaws Are 15million People? by Weinberg: 5:33pm On Jul 27
richmond500:
Bayelsa population is more than 2m, I schooled there.

Ijaw has up to 20 languages, let's assume that each of these language has 500 speakers, that's about 10m people even though u know that Okrika, Kalabari and main Ijaw has more than 500 speakers each. Infact Akuku-Toru, Asari-Toru and Degema LGA alone has more than 500 persons each
The total Ijaw population is not up to 4million.. Bayelsa is not homogeneous...
Ijaws in Bayelsa = 1.8M
Ijaws in Rivers = 1M
Ijaws in Ondo = 200k
Ijaws in Delta= 500k
Ijaws in Edo and parts of other southern states =155k
Total Ijaw population= 3.655M.

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Re: How Come Ijaws Are 15million People? by BiafIntel: 5:34pm On Jul 27
The same way Wikipedia gave fulanis 15 million in nigeria when everyone knows that the fulanis are less than 7 milion in reality.

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Re: How Come Ijaws Are 15million People? by richmond500: 5:34pm On Jul 27
Omoluabi1stborn:


Among all ijaws states and towns.
No be bayelsa Una dey stay as majority


If majority (bayelsa) isn't up to 3M how can all other places reach 3M where Una be minority.

U ain't the majority in Delta, Edo, Ondo, Rivers
So what r u saying?
no need arguing with u, wiki said ijaw is more than 10m but u that hasn't leave ur village ones except on Christmas vacation and schooling can say otherwise?

Do have a nice day
Re: How Come Ijaws Are 15million People? by Omoluabi1stborn: 5:34pm On Jul 27
richmond500:
well, let's assume highest in Bayelsa is 5m, now can u add Rivers Ijaw which makes a reasonable population of the Rivers people, Delta Ijaw which is very large too and the ijaw migrants scattered in other places, even if those living outside their ancestral land is just 1m, can't common sense tell u that Ijaws are more than 10m

Okay, let's assume Ijaws in Bayelsa is up to 5M.
The Ijaws in Ondo and Edo can't be more than 500k combined

Let's assume ijaws in Rivers and Delta is 1M each that's 2M combined.

Add everything together is 7.5M

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Re: How Come Ijaws Are 15million People? by richmond500: 5:35pm On Jul 27
Weinberg:

The total Ijaw population is not up to 4million.. Bayelsa is not homogeneous...
Ijaws in Bayelsa = 1.8M
Ijaws in Rivers = 1M
Ijaws in Ondo = 200k
Ijaws in Delta= 500k
Ijaws in Edo and parts of other southern states =155k
Total Ijaw population= 3.655M.
OK, u win
Re: How Come Ijaws Are 15million People? by Omoluabi1stborn: 5:36pm On Jul 27
Weinberg:

The total Ijaw population is not up to 4million.. Bayelsa is not homogeneous...
Ijaws in Bayelsa = 1.8M
Ijaws in Rivers = 1M
Ijaws in Ondo = 200k
Ijaws in Delta= 500k
Ijaws in Edo and parts of other southern states =155k
Total Ijaw population= 3.655M.

Thank you abeq
Highest Ijaws population is 7M

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Re: How Come Ijaws Are 15million People? by Omoluabi1stborn: 5:37pm On Jul 27
richmond500:
no need arguing with u, wiki said ijaw is more than 10m but u that hasn't leave ur village ones except on Christmas vacation and schooling can say otherwise?

Do have a nice day

Reality is different from Wiki.
Anyone can Edit wiki
Ahh, haba how can Ijaws be 15M where Una wan steal am

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Re: How Come Ijaws Are 15million People? by r4bbit: 5:38pm On Jul 27
Omoluabi1stborn:



If they can't be populated in their home state (bayelsa) how can they be populated outside Home state
i see your point..
But did you maka any ancestral bkground check?

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