JWs try to discredit the trinity doctrine when they try to preach a unitarian God.

But this summation is heretic and shows that their organisation is satanic, is from the devil and it's satan's last attempt to demean n belittle Our Lord and Great God Jesus Christ after he defeated him on the cross 2000 years ago. But guess what he will fail, just as JWs have failed already.

Now let's look at scripture to discredit their teaching.


John 5:19Jesus gave them this answer: “Very truly I tell you, the Son can do nothing by himself; he can do only what he sees his Father doing,because whatever the Father does the Son also does. 20For the Father loves the Son and shows him all he does. Yes, and he will show him even greater works than these, so that you will be amazed. 21[b]For just as the Father raises the dead and gives them life, even so the Son gives life to whom he is pleased to give it.[/b] 22Moreover, the Father judges no one, but has entrusted all judgment to the Son, 23that all may honor the Son just as they honor the Father. Whoever does not honor the Son does not honor the Father, who sent him.

24“Very truly I tell you, whoever hears my word and believes him who sent me has eternal life and will not be judged but has crossed over from death to life. 25Very truly I tell you, a time is coming and has now come when the dead will hear the voice of the Son of God and those who hear will live. 26For as the Father has life in himself, so he has granted the Son also to have life in himself. 27And he has given him authority to judge because he is the Son of Man.

@bolded is Jesus claim to diety n shows that even doh he is different from YHWH, he is also truly God.

@Bolded 1: He does everything he sees the Father does. So there is nothing that YHWH can do that Jesus cannot do...Nd YHWH can do things that only God can do. So Jesus can do all things that God can do Nd yet to JW, Jesus is not God.....hope u can see their lies

@Bolded 2. Jesus proves that he can do all that God can do n clearly claims deity by saying he can give life to whoever he pleases, something only God can do

@Bolded 3 YHWH acknowledge Jesus as God so he commands that you honor the Son, the same way u honor him. Now JW, how do u honor YHWH? Do u accord that same level of honor to Jesus?

This is the truth that Jesus is truly God.

I wonder why all the verses of Jesus supposed divinity just happen to be vague meanwhile their are explicit verses saying otherwise,yet you chose to follow the former.

Proudly, a trinitarian. Maximus'side what do you say?

YouAreFinished:
I wonder why all the verses of Jesus supposed divinity just happen to be vague meanwhile their are explicit verses saying otherwise,yet you chose to follow the former.

What's is vague about Jesus saying he can do everything Jehovah does? Or Jehovah saying u should honor Jesus the same way u honor him.

How do u honor Jehovah?

What are the explicit verses saying otherwise can u quote them

@Janosky @MaxinDHouse @Perfectlove @Rozz can u see how the bible calls your organization a lie

Any god that cannot unite all it's worshipers and make them think alike regarding right and wrong is FAKE! Isaiah 2:2-4; Micah 4:1-3; John 17:20-23; 1Corinthians 1:10; Ephesians 4:3; Philippians 2:2
So PRESENT a group of people practicing the teachings and doctrines of TRINITY before you come begging for a debate with JWs! Luke 16:24
Otherwise leave us with our beliefs we are 100% OK with our own God! Isaiah 54:17

freshboi88:
@Janosky @MaxinDHouse @Perfectlove @Rozz can u see how the bible calls your organization a lie

God is not a Trinity, neither the teaching of the scriptures.

God is Elohim, a team or family (Genesis 1:26). And this family according to John 1:1 is made up of TWO Personage equally called God.

I don't know why anyone should be confused about the holy Spirit, the supposed third person in the Trinity. Who is God by the way if not a Spirit (John 4:24)? So how then can someone say that the holy Spirit is an independent Person with a consciousness of its own?

Now, let's pretend it is true, that there's a third person as the Trinity teaches. How come Paul, in all his salutations and greetings to the Church of God, never deem it necessary for once, to greet the Church in the name of this third person? In all his epistles, Paul always greet the Church in the name of the Father and the Lord Jesus Christ (Romans 1:7, 1 Corinthians 1:2-3, 2 Corinthians 1:1-2, Galatians 1:1-3, Ephesians 1:1-2, Philippians 1:1-2, Colossians 1:1-2, 1 Thessalonians 1:1, 2 Thessalonians 1:1-2, 1 Timothy 1:1-2, 2 Timothy 1:1-2, Titus 1:1-4, Philemon 1:1-3).

In all these greetings, not even for once did Paul recognized the so-called third person in the Trinity. Just what manner of disrespect is that? How could he have done such a terrible thing! Or shall we excused Paul on grounds that the third person was not revealed to him? Perhaps it could be that the third person in the Trinity is simply inconsequential. Yes, let God be true and every man a liar (Romans 3:4).

Of course, I'm aware of so-called scriptural proofs for the Trinity. But when dissect, it is evident that they are nothing but a result of carelessly reading the scriptures, conjectures and fabrication. The history of the Trinity is out there in the open for anyone to see how it was invented. In fact, a simple google search can help a lot.

God is not a Trinity.

Freshboi88 please come and deal with this Jehovah witness!

Splinz:
God is not a Trinity, neither the teaching of the scriptures.

God is Elohim, a team or family (Genesis 1:26). And this family according to John 1:1 is made up of TWO Personage equally called God.

I don't know why anyone should be confused about the holy Spirit, the supposed third person in the Trinity. Who is God by the way if not a Spirit (John 4:24)? So how then can someone say that the holy Spirit is an independent Person with a consciousness of its own?

Now, let's pretend it is true, that there's a third person as the Trinity teaches. How come Paul, in all his salutations and greetings to the Church of God, never deem it necessary for once, to greet the Church in the name of this third person? In all his epistles, Paul always greet the Church in the name of the Father and the Lord Jesus Christ (Romans 1:7, 1 Corinthians 1:2-3, 2 Corinthians 1:1-2, Galatians 1:1-3, Ephesians 1:1-2, Philippians 1:1-2, Colossians 1:1-2, 1 Thessalonians 1:1, 2 Thessalonians 1:1-2, 1 Timothy 1:1-2, 2 Timothy 1:1-2, Titus 1:1-4, Philemon 1:1-3).

In all these greetings, not even for once did Paul recognized the so-called third person in the Trinity. Just what manner of disrespect is that? How could he have done such a terrible thing! Or shall we excused Paul on grounds that the third person was not revealed to him? Perhaps it could be that the third person in the Trinity was simply inconsequential. Yes, let God be true and every man a liar (Romans 3:4).

Of course, I'm aware of so-called scriptural proofs for the Trinity. But when dissect, it is evident that they are nothing but a result of carelessly reading the scriptures, conjectures and fabrication. The history of the Trinity is out there in the open for anyone to see how it was invented. In fact, a simple google search can help a lot.

God is not a Trinity.

When Jesus said falsehood will never stand {Luke 11:23} you people taught our Master, Lord and King was joking, shey? Matthew 24:35

OK now come and unite your brethren calling Jesus but criticizing JWs, let's see how you settle your differences first before calling out Jehovah's Witnesses that disagreed with your TRINITY dogheads!

MaxInDHouse:
Freshboi88 please come and deal with this Jehovah witness!

Maximus, what's up with you and this meme? It's as humorous as it is disgusting.

Splinz:

Maximus, what's up with you and this meme? It's as humorous as it is disgusting.

Sorry Sir, OP like his brethren in da lord "livingChrist" has been misinformed!
He thought only JWs disagree with his TRINITY dogheads, that's why i introduced you as a Jehovah witness perhaps he can deal with you by forcing TRINITY dogheads into your brains!

Please dig it down with him, his god is TRINITY!

Where is freshboi88 nah?

Ọ̀DẸ̀ ÒPÒNÚ OLÓDO
FOOLISH CONFUSED DULLARD

Instead of concentrating on how to reawaken his dying TRINITY dogheads he's looking for JWs to unleash his frustration!

Don't hide now! Come out and defend your dogheads!

For your information Rozz is not a JW she only saw the light that TRINITY is a complete mess!

Splinz:
God is not a Trinity, neither the teaching of the scriptures.

God is Elohim, a team or family (Genesis 1:26). And this family according to John 1:1 is made up of TWO Personage equally called God.

I don't know why anyone should be confused about the holy Spirit, the supposed third person in the Trinity. Who is God by the way if not a Spirit (John 4:24)? So how then can someone say that the holy Spirit is an independent Person with a consciousness of its own?

Now, let's pretend it is true, that there's a third person as the Trinity teaches. How come Paul, in all his salutations and greetings to the Church of God, never deem it necessary for once, to greet the Church in the name of this third person? In all his epistles, Paul always greet the Church in the name of the Father and the Lord Jesus Christ (Romans 1:7, 1 Corinthians 1:2-3, 2 Corinthians 1:1-2, Galatians 1:1-3, Ephesians 1:1-2, Philippians 1:1-2, Colossians 1:1-2, 1 Thessalonians 1:1, 2 Thessalonians 1:1-2, 1 Timothy 1:1-2, 2 Timothy 1:1-2, Titus 1:1-4, Philemon 1:1-3).

In all these greetings, not even for once did Paul recognized the so-called third person in the Trinity. Just what manner of disrespect is that? How could he have done such a terrible thing! Or shall we excused Paul on grounds that the third person was not revealed to him? Perhaps it could be that the third person in the Trinity is simply inconsequential. Yes, let God be true and every man a liar (Romans 3:4).

Of course, I'm aware of so-called scriptural proofs for the Trinity. But when dissect, it is evident that they are nothing but a result of carelessly reading the scriptures, conjectures and fabrication. The history of the Trinity is out there in the open for anyone to see how it was invented. In fact, a simple google search can help a lot.

God is not a Trinity.

Atleast you agree that Jesus is God. That is a start.
Read 2cor 13:14 May the grace of the Lord Jesus Christ, and the love of God, and the fellowship of the Holy Spirit be with you all.

I hope this puts your logic to rest. Do u now agree that the Holy Spirit is God.

Matt 28:19 Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit

To make it really clear

Read Jer 31:33 But this is the new covenant I will make with the people of Israel after those days,” says the LORD. “I will put my instructions deep within them, and I will write them on their hearts. I will be their God, and they will be my people. [/b]34And they will not need to teach their neighbors, nor will they need to teach their relatives, saying, ‘You should know the LORD.’ For everyone, from the least to the greatest, will know me already,” says the LORD. “And I will forgive their wickedness, and I will never again remember their sins.”


Now, who is speaking in Jer 31:33 ? Im sure ull say Jehovah. Now juxtapose this with Heb 10; 15-17

15 [b]The Holy Spirit also testifies to us about this. First he says:

16 “This is the covenant I will make with them
after that time, says the Lord.
I will put my laws in their hearts,
and I will write them on their minds.”[a]

17 Then he adds:

“Their sins and lawless acts
I will remember no more.”[b]

Who is speaking in Hebrew ? Jehovah or the Holy Spirit............ofcuz, the Holy Spirit is speaking

So ask yourself why is the Holy Spirit referencing the words spoken by Jehovah in Jeremiah as his own words. simple

The Holy Spirit is God.

MaxInDHouse:
Freshboi88 please come and deal with this Jehovah witness!

Good thing with splinz is that he is close to the truth of the Gospel but you have shown yourself to be an agent of satan. A disciple of a demonic society from the pit of hell. Better repent and be saved!

MaxInDHouse:

Sorry Sir, OP like his brethren in da lord "livingChrist" has been misinformed!
He thought only JWs disagree with his TRINITY dogheads, that's why i introduced you as a Jehovah witness perhaps he can deal with you by forcing TRINITY dogheads into your brains!

The truth is not of JWs but God who passes it through the scriptures. Whoever preaches the pagan doctrine of the Trinity should first of all let Paul know that he was not inspired and therefore knows nothing about God, for not recognizing the third person of the Trinity.

MaxInDHouse:

Please dig it down with him, his god is TRINITY!

No, I'm not here to dig anything with anyone. Whoever is able to accept the truth does well for his or her soul.

Freshboi thumbs up. You are absolutely right God is a trinity of persons.
Jesus told his disciples to baptise people in the name of the three persons of the Godhead.

Shame on you!

I don't believe in your TRINITY dogheads, Splinz also don't believe in your TRINITY dogheads yet you're saying one is better in what way o!

freshboi88:

Good thing with splinz is that he is close to the truth of the Gospel but you have shown yourself to be an agent of satan. A disciple of a demonic society from the pit of hell. Better repent and be saved!

MaxInDHouse:
Where is freshboi88 nah?

Ọ̀DẸ̀ ÒPÒNÚ OLÓDO
FOOLISH CONFUSED DULLARD

Instead of concentrating on how to reawaken his dying TRINITY dogheads he's looking for JWs to unleash his frustration!

Don't hide now! Come out and defend your dogheads!

For your information Rozz is not a JW she only saw the light that TRINITY is a complete mess!

The truth of the gospel cannot be displaced. It is like light, it will always shine in darkness. Why dont u address my OP and tell us why in John 5:19 it says the Son can do everything the Father does, answer this and shame your father the devil.


John 5:19 Jesus gave them this answer: “Very truly I tell you, the Son can do nothing by himself; he can do only what he sees his Father doing, because whatever the Father does the Son also does.

Splinz:


The truth is not of JWs but God who passes it through the scriptures. Whoever preaches the pagan doctrine of the Trinity should first of all let Paul know that he was not inspired and therefore knows nothing about God, for not recognizing the third person of the Trinity.
No, I'm not here to dig anything with anyone. Whoever is able to accept the truth does well for his or her soul.

Lóbátán!

freshboi88, you're a confirmed PAGAN ~ Splinz

freshboi88:

The truth of the gospel cannot be displaced. It is like light, it will always shine in darkness. Why dont u address my OP and tell us why in John 5:19 it says the Son can do everything the Father does, answer this and shame your father the devil.
John 5:19 Jesus gave them this answer: “Very truly I tell you, the Son can do nothing by himself; he can do only what he sees his Father doing, because whatever the Father does the Son also does.

No JW is coming to throw our precious pearls before you this time {Matthew 7:6} settle the case with your brethren in da lord first before coming to learn from JWs, until then no JWs is coming to cool your thirst! Luke 16:24

MaxInDHouse:
Shame on you!

I don't believe in your TRINITY dogheads, Splinz also don't believe in your TRINITY dogheads yet you're saying one is better in what way o!

Just like the devil, he is hiding behind another person. Allow splinz defend what he believes in. I have already attended to splinz with irrefutable scripture. Now u answer my question

Splinz:


The truth is not of JWs but God who passes it through the scriptures. Whoever preaches the pagan doctrine of the Trinity should first of all let Paul know that he was not inspired and therefore knows nothing about God, for not recognizing the third person of the Trinity.



No, I'm not here to dig anything with anyone. Whoever is able to accept the truth does well for his or her soul.

I have quoted scripture for u where Paul clearly referenced the the Holy Spirit and u couldn't refute it so u just decided to ignore it. 2cor 13-14
14 May the grace of the Lord Jesus Christ, and the love of God, and the fellowship of the Holy Spirit be with you all.

U say trinity is a pagan doctrine...i challenge u, show me any pagan doctrine where you have three beings all equal in essence, separate and are in perfect unity as one God under the Godhead ?

Me?
To waste my precious time with you again on this forum?
Ọlọ́run májẹ̀, God forbid!
Sebi you say we are worshipers of Satan abi Devil or whatever you call it, no wahala we are 100% OK with our God.
Go and worship your God with your fellow believers!

freshboi88:

Just like the devil, he is hiding behind another person. Allow splinz defend what he believes in. I have already attended to splinz with irrefutable scripture. Now u answer my question

MaxInDHouse:
Me?
To waste my precious time with you again on this forum?
Ọlọ́run májẹ̀, God forbid!
Sebi you say we are worshipers of Satan abi Devil or whatever you call it, no wahala we are 100% OK with our God.
Go and worship your God with your fellow believers!

Happy with Satan your god. This THREAD is meant to enlighten people to the truth of the gospel. To save them from the condemnation they will surely get by been JW cos the society is a demonic cult

freshboi88:


Happy with Satan your god. This THREAD is meant to enlighten people to the truth of the gospel. To save them from the condemnation they will surely get by been JW cos the society is a demonic cult

Your 3 doghead gospel is man made scam

"But these are written, that you may believe that Jesus is the Messiah, the Son of God; and by believing you may have life through his name."
John 20:31
John 20:31 means Freshboi88 proven (in screenshot) he is NOT a Christian let alone a servant of Jehovah God,whom Jesus worships.

Janosky:



Your 3 doghead gospel is man made scam

"But these are written, that you may believe that Jesus is the Messiah, the Son of God; and by believing you may have life through his name."
John 20:31
John 20:31 means Freshboi88 proven (in screenshot) he is NOT a Christian let alone a servant of Jehovah God,whom Jesus worships.

Hahaha....the biggest scam is that your Bible says Jesus is not part of every creature. Come and tell us why


NWT
13 And I heard every creature in heaven and on earth and underneath the earth+ and on the sea, and all the things in them, saying: “To the One sitting on the throne+ and to the Lamb+ be the blessing and the honor+ and the glory and the might forever and ever.”+ 14 The four living creatures were saying: “Amen!” and the elders fell down and worshipped.

Come and answer

1. Y is Jesus not part of every creature. Is he not a creature again.

2. Y is Jesus receiving the same honor, praise, glory, worship, blessing given to Jehovah ?