pu7pl3:


Lmaooooooooo....if Messi is a better player than Ronaldo then Fernando Peroteo is the greatest footballer that ever lived

movingclouds:

This guy is a clown. That name has never been mentioned among the top10 greats and you mentioned it here. I think you're teasing, that guy should stop taking you seriously

pu7pl3:


Have you seen the guys goal scoring numbers? Or are you another Cule thirsty for a mid-day "L"

pu7pl3:


Lmaooooooooo....if Messi is a better player than Ronaldo then Fernando Peroteo is the greatest footballer that ever lived

pu7pl3:


Have you seen the guys goal scoring numbers? Or are you another Cule thirsty for a mid-day "L"

randomperson:


How does this make any sense to you? If you can't refute an argument just say so or better receive your L in peace...

But because you thought you must say something, you ended up advertising your stupidity for the whole world to see.

movingclouds:

Well, if his goalscoring records were to be reckoned with, he'd be listed with the greats. Football isn't only about scoring, Maradona had fewer goals..

movingclouds:

He had 193goals in 337 appearances

pu7pl3:
And that's how both of you have lost sight of the main arguement in the first place

Read his wiki page very well not just that overview...he is like the greatest Goalscorer ever but people don't talk about him...

FirstbornWds:


Guy.. Why are you like this.

How is the Fernando Peroteo related to Messi and Ronaldo's argument?

Yes Peroteo was a great goal-scorer no doubt but bringing the Portuguese talisman to a table where greats are mentioned is totally off the charts.

Like someone rightly pointed out, Maradona had fewer goals, just about 25 goals than L. Suarez, yet he's considered one of the bests.

Even Ronaldiho was much less of a goalscorer yet he's widely recognized than whatever Peroteo that you're bringing up. Let's not even talk about Eusebio, his fellow countryman.
SMH o. SMH

pu7pl3:


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You know what, never mind bruh...

pu7pl3:


It also mattered during all this time below

He hasn’t scored an away goal in the Champions League beyond the round of 16 since April 2, 2013, when he scored in a 2–2 draw against Paris Saint-Germain in the quarter-final.
Messi has since played in nine away knockout matches beyond the last 16, failing to score in any of them.

In 2009 Barcelona played Chelsea in the Champions League SF. Messi was absolutely horrible, failed to score home or away. This was the born of Uefalona, Chelsea were denied 4 clear penalties. Barcelona should have been eliminated and thus this CL win is void.

In 2010 Barcelona played Inter in the CL semifinals. Messi, as is often the case with him in big games was absolutely rubbish. He recorded ZERO assists or goals over the two legs and Barca were eliminated.

In the 2010 World Cup, Messi played 5 matches. In all the tournament combined he scored a grand total of 0 goals, “ZERO” in five matches and registered a single assist only. Argentina were eliminated in the quarterfinals.

In 2012, Barca faced Chelsea again, but with no referees to help, they were eliminated. Messi again drank the potion of invisibility. He did not score or assist in 180 minutes, also missed the penalty that would’ve sent Barca through. Later he was found in Gary Cahill’s pocket.

In 2013 UCL semifinals, Messi again was a bystander for the entire game as Barcelona were beaten and embarrassed by Bayern 7–0. He did not score or assist in 180 minutes of play, as Barca crashed out.

In 2014 UCL quarters, Messi was again his usual horrible self against Atletico Madrid. He dropped one of the worst performances of his career over the 2 legs, not once scoring or assisting. He missed several easy chances in the 2nd leg, including an easy tap in from a metre out.

In 2014 World Cup, Messi stat padded against teams like Iran, Nigeria & bosnia herzegovina in the group stages. But he had ZERO goals & assists combined against Belgium QF, Holland SF & Germany in the final. Again not showing up in big matches when his team needed him the most. In the World Cup final, Messi was through 1v1 vs Neuer. It was time for Messi to finally get the most prestigious trophy in football. But Messi, being the choker he is, missed an absolute sitter and put it wide. No one, but Messi is to be blamed for this loss.

In 2016, Messi again put his usual UCL semifinal disaster class. This time ZERO goals and assists in 180 minutes against Atletico Madrid. The second leg away was one of his worst career games, choking a 2–1 lead from the first leg.

In 2015 and 2016, Messi lost back to back Copa America finals with Argentina. He had ZERO goals and assists in both finals. He crumbled under pressure in the 2016 final shootout and missed the penalty. After this humiliating defeat, he took a fake retirement.

In 2017 UCL quart finals, Messi again ghosted, this time against Juventus in the quarterfinals. He again did not score or assist in both legs. Barca were humbled 3–0 and were sent packing. His national teammate, Paulo Dybala, outshone him over the two legs.

In 2018 UCL quarters, Messi and co were again sent packing, this time, by Roma. Messi’s performance at the Olimpico will go down as the worst ever performance by a superstar in CL history. Didn’t do anything & missed an absolute sitter. Messi bottled a 4–1 lead.

At the 2018 World Cup, Messi again choked at the grandest stage of world football. He missed a penalty against Iceland, who’s keeper is a film director. He was invisible against Croatia in a 3–0 thrashing, and again, vs France as Argentina were knocked out.

In 2019 UCL, Messi stat padded against weak opposition but went missing again when the going got tough. He was knocked out by Liverpool, after winning the first leg 3–0. Another all time Champions League bottle job.
He’s is the best player in spain right now I admit but outside la liga the Argentine Frodo Baggins is shit with a weak mentality can never be my goat

But where was your dear Bilbo ddipshit?? Hanging out with Casper the ghost is his favourite pastime...Thanks for Cherry picking...it's very obvious you are not as bright as you like to give yourself credit for

airmark:



Hazard is poor this season. But i doubt if any granada player dead or alive had done this to barca defence before:

airmark:


Feed us now. I guess your sluggish best dm, busquet no dey there?

dmcdad:
Munir making Hazard look like a school boy.

ddippset:
I see someone spreading that big game falsehood as usual...


Ronaldo's Big games in finals and semi finals that I can think of;

1. Manchester United versus Chelsea; 2008 champions league final. CHOKED...
2. Manchester United versus Barcelona; 2009 champions league final. CHOKED...
3. Real Madrid versus Athletico; 2014 champions league final. CHOKED....
4. Real Madrid versus Athletico; 2016 champions league final. CHOKED.....
5. Real Madrid versus Liverpool; 2018 champions league final. CHOKED.
6. Portugal versus France; Euro 2016 Final. CHOKED FOR 28 Minutes then got injured.
7. Portugal versus Chile; 2017 Confed cup semi final. CHOKED.
8. Portugal versus Holland; 2019 UEFA Nations league final. CHOKED.
9. Portugal versus Greece; Euro 2004 semi final. CHOKED.
10.Juventus verus Lazio; Copa Italia final 2019. CHOKED.
11. Juventus versus Ajax; 2019 champions league semi final. CHOKED.

Good Games.

10. Real Madrid versus Juventus; 2017 champions league final.
11.Real Madrid versus Bayern; 2017 champions league semi final.



Big Game player...

Lana1:
Cant argue with this. Someone that was inside Robertson's pocket in the 2018 UCL final.

That 09 final still pains me till tomorrow.
Eto'o scored and uncle was doing Calma sign. He disappeared afterwards.

In 08, his penalty miss Almost doomed us if not for Terry.

The only final he has ever turned up in, was the one against Juve in 2017.

pu7pl3:


He hasn’t scored an away goal in the Champions League beyond the round of 16 since April 2, 2013, when he scored in a 2–2 draw against Paris Saint-Germain in the quarter-final.
Messi has since played in nine away knockout matches beyond the last 16, failing to score in any of them.

pu7pl3:


In 2009 Barcelona played Chelsea in the Champions League SF. Messi was absolutely horrible, failed to score home or away. This was the born of Uefalona, Chelsea were denied 4 clear penalties. Barcelona should have been eliminated and thus this CL win is void.

pu7pl3:


In 2010 Barcelona played Inter in the CL semifinals. Messi, as is often the case with him in big games was absolutely rubbish. He recorded ZERO assists or goals over the two legs and Barca were eliminated.

pu7pl3:


In the 2010 World Cup, Messi played 5 matches. In all the tournament combined he scored a grand total of 0 goals, “ZERO” in five matches and registered a single assist only. Argentina were eliminated in the quarterfinals.

pu7pl3:

In 2012, Barca faced Chelsea again, but with no referees to help, they were eliminated. Messi again drank the potion of invisibility. He did not score or assist in 180 minutes, also missed the penalty that would’ve sent Barca through. Later he was found in Gary Cahill’s pocket.

pu7pl3:

In 2013 UCL semifinals, Messi again was a bystander for the entire game as Barcelona were beaten and embarrassed by Bayern 7–0. He did not score or assist in 180 minutes of play, as Barca crashed out.

pu7pl3:


In 2014 UCL quarters, Messi was again his usual horrible self against Atletico Madrid. He dropped one of the worst performances of his career over the 2 legs, not once scoring or assisting. He missed several easy chances in the 2nd leg, including an easy tap in from a metre out.

pu7pl3:

In 2014 World Cup, Messi stat padded against teams like Iran, Nigeria & bosnia herzegovina in the group stages. But he had ZERO goals & assists combined against Belgium QF, Holland SF & Germany in the final. Again not showing up in big matches when his team needed him the most. In the World Cup final, Messi was through 1v1 vs Neuer. It was time for Messi to finally get the most prestigious trophy in football. But Messi, being the choker he is, missed an absolute sitter and put it wide. No one, but Messi is to be blamed for this loss.

pu7pl3:

In 2016, Messi again put his usual UCL semifinal disaster class. This time ZERO goals and assists in 180 minutes against Atletico Madrid. The second leg away was one of his worst career games, choking a 2–1 lead from the first leg.

pu7pl3:

In 2015 and 2016, Messi lost back to back Copa America finals with Argentina. He had ZERO goals and assists in both finals. He crumbled under pressure in the 2016 final shootout and missed the penalty. After this humiliating defeat, he took a fake retirement.

pu7pl3:

In 2017 UCL quart finals, Messi again ghosted, this time against Juventus in the quarterfinals. He again did not score or assist in both legs. Barca were humbled 3–0 and were sent packing. His national teammate, Paulo Dybala, outshone him over the two legs.

pu7pl3:

In 2018 UCL quarters, Messi and co were again sent packing, this time, by Roma. Messi’s performance at the Olimpico will go down as the worst ever performance by a superstar in CL history. Didn’t do anything & missed an absolute sitter. Messi bottled a 4–1 lead.

pu7pl3:

At the 2018 World Cup, Messi again choked at the grandest stage of world football. He missed a penalty against Iceland, who’s keeper is a film director. He was invisible against Croatia in a 3–0 thrashing, and again, vs France as Argentina were knocked out.

pu7pl3:

In 2019 UCL, Messi stat padded against weak opposition but went missing again when the going got tough. He was knocked out by Liverpool, after winning the first leg 3–0. Another all time Champions League bottle job.
He’s is the best player in spain right now I admit but outside la liga the Argentine Frodo Baggins is shit with a weak mentality can never be my goat[/color][/i].

TLona1:


Lmao

Why are you cherry picking? Which one is "Champions league beyond the round of 16 since April 2 2013"? Only a desperate loser will go this far all in the name of bringing someone down. Talking of UCL goals, Messi has the best goalscoring ratio in history and that's all that matters. Nobody cares whether you score away or not



Messi was absolutely horrible?? Who assisted Iniesta's golazo that sent us to the final?



I can see how you stylishly dodged the 4-0 massacre against arsenal where he scored the 4 goals sending us to the Semis. Maybe that wasn't a big match also right??



Everybody knows Messi had a very bad World Cup experience in 2010 but he made up for it in 2014 where he was awarded the best player in the tournament




Lol.. You're a joking joke! Messi was "invisible" yet he assisted all Barca's goals against Chelsea in that tie. I really don't blame you TapInaldo fanboys.. You're already used to Ronaldo's tap ins that is why a player can only perform well when he scores according you guys...




Messi was battling injury problems during this period. He came from the bench in the Quarter finals against PSG and singlehandedly sent us to the Semi Final. The injury still affected him in the semi finals against Bayern in the first where Barca lost 4-0. Due to this same injury, he couldn't play the second leg so that "180 minutes of play" you typed is nothing but a crystal lie from the pit of Hell!



2014 was generally a bad season for Barcelona for Barca and the Worst season since 2007/08. Every Barca player wasn't up and doing. It's a normal phenomenon that every club and player has gone through..





Say whatever you want but Messi was the best player in the Tournament. Maybe Ronaldo too should also "stat pad" so that he'll honoured as a World Cup MVP



Yes like every bad player, he had a bad game




Lies, lies, lies.

Messi never ghosted in any of these Copa Americas. He was litrally the best player. You will talk of penalty losses but I will tell you that during the penalty shootout in 2015 final, he was the only Argentine who score his penalty while the rest lost and in 2016, it wasn't his penalty that made Argentina get defeated but Bilgia's



For the last time, I'll say this to you Ronaldo fanboys, a player doesn't necessarily have to do tap ins before he can have a good game. Messi created the most chances against Juventus that year. It wasn't his fault that Suarez andbl Iniesta were wasting his assists



Again, Messi was also battling injury during this period but this time around, this wasn't an excuse.. He waa woeful and we all agree


In World Cup 2018,

Messi took his team out of the Group stage after his goal and leadership quality against Nigeria. Against France in the RO16, he gave two sublime assists. It's not his fault that Argentina's defence was opened like Mia Khalifa's legs



Lol, I didn't know that Tottenham, Manchester United and Liverpool are weak oppositions.

Against Liverpool in the 2nd leg he was the Barca player with the most chances created. Suarez, Jordi Alba and Coutinho were wasting his assists so it practically wasn't his fault. After all, we saw what he did in the first leg



In conclusion, Messi doesn't have to restrict his game to goalscoring alone like Ronaldo. Asides scoring he can have a very good game and that's what your Penaldo FanDogs should understand

Now, I heard the only time Ronaldo turned up in a UCL final was against Juventus in 2017. How true is that?

Chai , this Argentine Hobbit's world class choking prowess have conditioned all of y'all Cules/arse lickers to morph into world class excuse givers

Cos that's all I see here... excuses excuses excuses...lame implausible ones too

Martinez39s:
You forgot to add that in the firstleg of the ucl semifinal 2011, FC Uefalona robbed Madrid at the Santiago Bernabeu with their theatrics and 12th player masquerading as the referee.

Cules will swear to you that no ref has ever been biased towards them ever

pu7pl3:


Cules will swear to you that no ref has ever been biased towards them ever

Martinez39s:
Even in the 2012 ucl match against AC Milan at Camp Nou, Milan were robbed in a 3-1 defeat. In the 2011 round of 16 against Arsenal at Camp Nou, we all saw the unfair red card given to Van Persie. What about Suarez's dive and the resulting penalty during the 6-1 comeback against PSG?

Martinez39s:
Even in the 2012 ucl match against AC Milan at Camp Nou, Milan were robbed in a 3-1 defeat. In the 2011 round of 16 against Arsenal at Camp Nou, we all saw the unfair red card given to Van Persie. What about Suarez's dive and the resulting penalty during the 6-1 comeback against PSG?

ddippset:
This guy you stoopid sha!

How many times do I have to tell you that I do not have any problem with Messi choking sometimes? He's human and he has to choke.


What do I have to do to you?

Paint a picture? Draw a map?

Messi chokes!
Messi chokes!!
Messi chokes!!!

Messi has choked 1 million times. In fact all Messi has done in his life is choke!


For the umpteenth time this is about Ronaldo.

You have labelled Ronaldo the ultimate big game player who does not choke!

Ronaldo does not choke!

Ronaldo never chokes!!

Stop swinging this around like an eediot.

Your skirt is up already....

Tell us how Ronaldo never chokes when it matters most....

* Euro 2004 final birthed his magical art of disappearance. Against Greece.

* World Cup 2010. Flopped against Brazil and Ivory Coast. Got his mojo and scored one against North Korea in a 7-0 rout.
He then waved his magic wand and disappeared against Spain in round 2, and went home while Messi went to QF.

* Euro 2012 again Spain. When it "mattered most" against Spain he was waitng for last penalty to take all the glory as he choked again through the match and Portugal got knockout.

* World Cup 2014. Choked through the group stage and when it "mattered most" against against USA. Needed to win to qualify but the big game player; he choked again. Portugal went home.

* Euro 2016. Portugal's biggest game ever! He was missing for 28 minutes. Portugal win the biggest game in it's history without Ronaldo.

* World Cup 2018. Against Uruguay "When it mattered most" He was lost. Disappeared again!

* Confederations Cup 2017. Against Chile in the Semi final. Ronaldo was as anonymous as the dude who donated 10 million in my church last month.

* UEFA Nation's league. Portugal got to the semi final and Ronaldo didn't kick a ball to get them there. But when it mattered most in the final against Holland, Ronaldo waka only am.

* 2008 UCL final when it mattered most against Chelsea, we nor see Ronaldo.

* 2009 UCL final against Barca Ronaldo choked. Doubt he even touched the ball after 20 minutes.

* 2011 UCL semi final against Madrid, Ronaldo choked again when Madrid needed him the most.

* 2013 Copa del Rey final against Athletico, the most significant thing he did all night was get sent off after kicking out. In a game when it mattered most!

* 2014 UCL final against Athletico. Me Ronaldo was lost for 90 minutes until Ramos saved Madrid.

* 2016 UCL final, the only thing he did all night was live up to his name and score a penalty.
As usual Ramos was there to give Madrid the goal.

* 2018 UCL final, In Madrid's biggest game of the season against Liverpool, Ronaldo choked again when it mattered most. Bale saved the day!

* 2019 UCL against Ajax when it mattered most for Juve who had become traditional semi finalists, Ronaldo choked against Ajax in the second leg, lost a glorious chances to score and they got booted out in the QF.

* 2019 Copa Italia. Ronaldo choked again as Juve lost to Lazio in the final "when It mattered most."

Oga Messi is the biggest choker in world football. Agreed!
In fact he has choked 10,000 times.


Just tell us how Ronaldo is the big game player who delivers when It matters most.

Martinez39s:
Stop being dishonest. We all know that players do lose games and have a bad form in certain matches, but do you know what it means to choke? Can Ronaldo be in a team and his opponent will comeback from a 3-0 deficit? Can Ronaldo be in a team and AS Roma will overturn a 4-1 deficit? Can Ronaldo miss penalties that will cost Argentina Portugal two Copa America Euro titles?

Even though both players are match winners, we have seen Ronaldo resurrect his team when all hope seems lost way more often than Messi those. Against Wolfsburg, Ronaldo singlehandedly came resurrected Madrid after a 2-0 loss in the first leg. He did the same for Juventus against Atletico Madrid. He didn't fumble when taking that late minute penalty against Juventus in 2018 to see Madrid through.


Ronaldo might have lost matches, but he has never choked. Never.


Was Ronaldo the GOAT at that time? Has he reached GOAT level in 2004? Btw, his performance wasn't poor in that match unlike Messi when Messi chokes.

Both players had a poor performance. Messi couldn't manage a goal in the 2010 world cup. Tevez, Higuain and the rest were carrying Argentina along.

The Spanish side were the best team in the world at that time, and they were almost unplayable. Portugal were the only team to squeeze a draw from them, but penalty is a game of luck. Ronaldo waiting to take the winning penalty isn't a bad thing, teams have done that with their best players during a penalty shootout... winning pk is reserved for the best player. We saw that when Didier Drogba took the winning pk against Bayern Munich in the 2012 ucl final.

He didn't choke.

He was injured in the final after a collision and had to be taken off, how was it his fault? Have you forgotten that Ronaldo's goals in the group stages prevented Portugal from elimination during the group stages?

Was his performance poor? It just one of those matches lost. You will never see Ronaldo choke and bottle up an advantage. You need to understand what choking and bottling up means.

Lol.

You conveniently left out the fact that Ronaldo played in the semifinal where he scored a hat trick against Switzerland to give Portugal a 3 - 1 victory. Switzerland were the better side but Ronaldo made the difference.

Are you serious? Ronaldo scored against Chelsea in that match. Man Utd ended up winning the final. Where is the choking and bottling up here?

Ronaldo didn't choke or bottle anything, and his performance wasn't bad.

You mean against FC Barcelona? In the first leg at the Bernabeu, Madrid were robbed by the referee and the theatrics of Barça players.

Ronaldo scored Madrid's only goal in that 2-1 defeat. He got sent early.

Where is the choking and bottling up here? Ronaldo scored a penalty in that final and Madrid won. This is not the first time you are calling Ronaldo out for "choking" in a game he scored in, and his team won.

The penalty won Madrid the cup. Remember that Ronaldo was fieled while injured. If carrying the pressure of a winning penalty is easy, why did Messi choke against Chile twice? Once again, you are calling Ronaldo out for "choking" in a match he helped his team win.

Once again, you are calling Ronaldo out for "choking" in a match his team won. His performance on that final wasn't bad, he just happened not to score.

Before that match, Ronaldo helped Juventus overturn a 2-0 first leg deficit against Atletico Madrid. Against Ajax, Ronaldo scored all Juventus's goals in the 3-2 aggregate lose. Didn't he try?

I can give you this one.





No one is saying Ronaldo doesn't fumble. It all boils down to the fact that Ronaldo, way more often than Messi, turns up when it matters most even in big games.

pupl3

You tried

Meeyankee:

So Barcelona are now the only club that are getting favor from UEFA? Every championship league they won you are telling us they didn’t practically deserve it? Guy stop this talk jor who good is good.

Martinez39s:

••• Barcelona didn't deserve the 2009 ucl trophy. They cheated Chelsea at Stamford Bridge in the semifinal.
••• Barcelona didn't deserve the 2011 ucl trophy. They cheated Real Madrid CF in the semifinal at Santiago Bernabeu with their theatrics and referee's assistance.

The only one they deserved is the 2015 ucl trophy.

Meeyankee:

For real you are too sentimental to discuss football all you know how to do is attacked Messi and Barcelona. So Barcelona will come and cheat Madrid at Santiago bernabue this doesn’t add at Same time Barcelona will come and cheat on Chelsea at Stamford bridge.
Sometimes football is a good of opportunity, not making use of your opportunity could lead you to failure. Barcelona and Chelsea played almost 90minutes 10 against 11 players instead of Chelsea to make use of their opportunity they were busy waiting for a Penalty that will never come. As for Barcelona and Madrid I don’t really understand what you mean by with the help of referee. Football is a beautiful game keep sentiment aside and let’s discuss football.

Martinez39s:

••• Barcelona didn't deserve the 2009 ucl trophy. They cheated Chelsea at Stamford Bridge in the semifinal.
••• Barcelona didn't deserve the 2011 ucl trophy. They cheated Real Madrid CF in the semifinal at Santiago Bernabeu with their theatrics and referee's assistance.

The only one they deserved is the 2015 ucl trophy.

peterd53:



Wetin dz Mumu deh talk Na referee score d two goals for Barca Your Penaldo was no where to be found. He had never score a hat trick in an el clasico match. You’re a pain ass madridiot

Martinez39s:
Chelsea were not waiting for a penalty. Even if they were, it still doesn't justify the robbery. The referee ignored four clear penalties that could have sent Barça out of the ucl. It's like you didn't watch the match. As for the ucl El Clasico, it's clear you didn't watch the match; if you did, you would be able to understand.

I am not biased against Messi and FC Barcelona. I have said severally on this forum that Messi is a better player than Ronaldo. The main argument on this thread was on whether Ronaldo is a big player and if he shows up when his team needs him the most. Ronaldo, way more often than Messi, shows up in big games and when his team needs him the most. Also, Ronaldo and his teams don't choke and bottle up like Messi and his teams have done. I AM OBJECTIVE; I DON'T DO SENTIMENTS. JUST SAY YOU DON'T LIKE THE TRUTHS I HAVE BEEN DISHING OUT ON THIS THREAD.

Martinez39s:
Stop being dishonest. We all know that players do lose games and have a bad form in certain matches, but do you know what it means to choke? Can Ronaldo be in a team and his opponent will comeback from a 3-0 deficit? Can Ronaldo be in a team and AS Roma will overturn a 4-1 deficit? Can Ronaldo miss penalties that will cost Argentina Portugal two Copa America Euro titles?

Even though both players are match winners, we have seen Ronaldo resurrect his team when all hope seems lost way more often than Messi those. Against Wolfsburg, Ronaldo singlehandedly came resurrected Madrid after a 2-0 loss in the first leg. He did the same for Juventus against Atletico Madrid. He didn't fumble when taking that late minute penalty against Juventus in 2018 to see Madrid through.


Ronaldo might have lost matches, but he has never choked. Never.


Was Ronaldo the GOAT at that time? Has he reached GOAT level in 2004? Btw, his performance wasn't poor in that match unlike Messi when Messi chokes.

Both players had a poor performance. Messi couldn't manage a goal in the 2010 world cup. Tevez, Higuain and the rest were carrying Argentina along.

The Spanish side were the best team in the world at that time, and they were almost unplayable. Portugal were the only team to squeeze a draw from them, but penalty is a game of luck. Ronaldo waiting to take the winning penalty isn't a bad thing, teams have done that with their best players during a penalty shootout... winning pk is reserved for the best player. We saw that when Didier Drogba took the winning pk against Bayern Munich in the 2012 ucl final.

He didn't choke.

He was injured in the final after a collision and had to be taken off, how was it his fault? Have you forgotten that Ronaldo's goals in the group stages prevented Portugal from elimination during the group stages?

Was his performance poor? It just one of those matches lost. You will never see Ronaldo choke and bottle up an advantage. You need to understand what choking and bottling up means.

Lol.

You conveniently left out the fact that Ronaldo played in the semifinal where he scored a hat trick against Switzerland to give Portugal a 3 - 1 victory. Switzerland were the better side but Ronaldo made the difference.

Are you serious? Ronaldo scored against Chelsea in that match. Man Utd ended up winning the final. Where is the choking and bottling up here?

Ronaldo didn't choke or bottle anything, and his performance wasn't bad.

You mean against FC Barcelona? In the first leg at the Bernabeu, Madrid were robbed by the referee and the theatrics of Barça players.

Ronaldo scored Madrid's only goal in that 2-1 defeat. He got sent early.

Where is the choking and bottling up here? Ronaldo scored a penalty in that final and Madrid won. This is not the first time you are calling Ronaldo out for "choking" in a game he scored in, and his team won.

The penalty won Madrid the cup. Remember that Ronaldo was fieled while injured. If carrying the pressure of a winning penalty is easy, why did Messi choke against Chile twice? Once again, you are calling Ronaldo out for "choking" in a match he helped his team win.

Once again, you are calling Ronaldo out for "choking" in a match his team won. His performance on that final wasn't bad, he just happened not to score.

Before that match, Ronaldo helped Juventus overturn a 2-0 first leg deficit against Atletico Madrid. Against Ajax, Ronaldo scored all Juventus's goals in the 3-2 aggregate lose. Didn't he try?

I can give you this one.





No one is saying Ronaldo doesn't fumble. It all boils down to the fact that Ronaldo, way more often than Messi, turns up when it matters most even in big games.

pu7pl3

Meeyankee:

All these playing formulas you stated below you still want Messi to go and score goals anytime they needed goals what about other players what are they doing ? We all know how Ronaldo uses his waiting for opportunity format to score goals. Well what do call big team? When yo see the record of Messi against English big team. He has done it against English big team, Bayern ,psg juva. I no really understand watin owner want make him do before owna see am as big games players. Well Economics makes us understand that humans are insatiable