MaxInDHouse:
When i called out Chris on this topic i never thought people can go this far, trying to make lawlessness look good.
Chris is the cause of the breakup in his marriage so he is not qualified to teach others about marriage!
The useless masturbator can't expect a sound woman to meet up with his dirty habit because masturbation is cheating on it's own.
He is supposed to share those moments with his wife not practicing such lust only to satisfy himself as that will keep the woman unattended to since Chris has gotten the satisfaction elsewhere through masturbation!

MaxInDHouse:


Beautiful and upbuilding comment from one of our neighbours who also claims to be a Christian! Luke 6:45

When talking about God's word the taught ones will prove to be the children of their own father {Matthew 5:11-12} while the uncultured will also suffice with the manner of their own father! John 8:44

petra1:


it doesn't matter the translation. Moses divorced the wife after she insulted him calling him bloodly husband.

Exo 4:25 — Exo 4:26
25 Then Zipporah took a sharp stone, and cut off the foreskin of her son, and cast it at his feet, and said, Surely a bloody husband art thou to me. 26 So he let him go: then she said, A bloody husband thou art, because of the circumcision.

The bible says Moses Sent her back or sent her away . some translations righty rendered it

Exodus 18:2 (BBE)
2 And Jethro, Moses' father-in-law, took Zipporah, Moses' wife, after he had sent her away,

You may kindly check it out in strongs Hebrew dictionary. it means Divorce

(Olive Tree Enhanced Strong's Dictionary)
h7964. שִׁלּוּחַ šillûaḥ; or שִׁלֻּחַ shilluach; from 7971; (only in plural) a dismissal, i.e. (of a wife)
divorce (especially the document); also (of a daughter)

So dilligent study on the passage shows He divorced her. Other books and manuscripts like the book of Jasher throws more light on his Divorce



The Father inlaw intervened and brought about reconciliation



Definately not thesame woman. The Cushite Ethiopian woman is a new wife. why would Aaron complained of Moses Marrying a non Jew. He married Marian when there was no law. Nobody complained but he married the cushite against the law hence the complain. Ask yourself why would they complained of a Marian being a non jew many years after marriage and bearing children. it doesnt make sense. Its the new Gentile wife that was unconstitutional.

achorladey:


When your darling brother Dappa call us hobnockers. He still remains your beautiful brother with upbuilding comment


while the uncultured will also suffice with the manner of their own father.... MaxInDHouse

This is where you need that Matthew 7:1-4 when you go about calling others ASIERE, ASINWIN, INSANE, MAD your the best cultured example of Jesus followers . Na your way.

Maestro21:


He was calling someone else a fool many times on another thread.

I know them and what they stand for, that is why I am always brutish with them.

You can see them quoting fake blogs, completely useless audios, fake commentary in a conversation that should have been left strictly to the bible.

petra1:


Did the departure of judas make jesus a failure to lead? Did the departure of Demas make Paul a failure to lead?
Teaching and counselling is by the word and the spirit. Not by life experience

achorladey:


The OP gave you an example in close relation to whatever you were driving at, rather than look into it you went into your usual colouration of the matter.

Your Jehovah was married to Israel and several times your Jehovah wife committed ADULTERY and the marriage suffered several times over the years and centuries.

Is your Jehovah still capable of giving advice concerning marriage?

Sebi una dey advice others to carry body down and learn. You dey do am abi na just to to dey carry shoulder up and down you dey?

PeaceJoyLove:

You are a clown. How is this relevant to marriage? You should go take business and finance advice from a poor man who failed in all businesses he has engaged in. Mehn! This is why Athiests laugh at chriatians. You be mumu. The Bible did not talk about spirit alone. The fruits is what the Bible says we shall know them. No one will enter the Kingdom of God by talents or gifts; but by actions and deeds. The fruits you produce will be the yardstick to judge you. Shut the crap up and stop twisting the Bible. Dullard.


I'm not a member of Jehovah Witness, but you are funny. It is very dangerous to associate with people who misinterpret Bible. This is the same way Satan quoted Bible for Jesus to turn stones to bread. And if Jesus was not strong, he would have fallen into the trap. Your head dey pain you for making this senseless comparison. No, go and take money advice from a poor man who failed, and see how you will be so rich. M.umu

Your Pastor Chris should shut the crap up. If you want to learn about marriage, go and learn from Pastor Kumuyi. He is the first on the list. Why? His wife has passed to glory. And he is still here. I can say that of my own father too. Those who remained steadfast.

Pastor Chris should target those who have divorced and are fighting back to get their marriage. Or he should start tragetting those who are looking for mercy, and not those who dont want to make mistakes. He had made it and that cannot be changed. Anyone can make it. It can happen to anyone. But my issue with him is that he is trying to give advice where he is not qualified again. He dabbles to topics he knows nothing about and speaks fo.olishness. And you idiotass applaud him. Devil has knocked him out in this area and let him deal with it. Devil knocked Moses out of entering Canaan land, but that didnt stop God from saving him. It took Michael to go to war with the devil to get Moses. That is to tell you how God committed Hinself to make sure Moses was saved cos Moses was so faithful. Just a slight mistake and he gave the devil rhe space to operate. Anyone can fall from the grace. Ut once you miss it, dont ever deceive people and still position yourself to teach that again. Leave it for those qualified to do so. Your failure is another weapon God can use. But Chris is always confusing his members. I dont blame him. The members are the idiootaaas. And you are one. M.umu.

Oga, let Chris shut the crap up and target another set of people. He has lost out in this. Pastors like Adeboye can still target those with wives also. Kumuyi even advances pass Adeboye cos Kumuyi can talk to those whose spouses have gone to glory on how to hold on.

Na by stages oga. Dont let Chris push you all into what he is inexperienced about. He needs to go and learn from ordinary members who still have their wives with them on how to keep women at home. If Chris comes to my front to say this rubbish, I swear I will embarrass him and put him in his space. Maybe he will chop a beautiful gigantic slap. E go shock am. He will tumble...I swear. Then, you will know he is ordinary like you.

He is just as ordinary as you, and he failed in this area. And it's normal. But what beats my imagination is how you mumu to this extent and still follow him in this area he failed to the extent of using this example. See eh....you are a loser. Loser you are. And you are one of the reasons athiests see christians as losers. Where did you even keep your brain? O boy! Are you ok? Are you sure Chris has not giving you juju to make you not able to think well again? Oga, you know what? You mu.mu.

If you dont clear off from this section....just saying rubbish. Rubbish. I'm so annoyed. That your Chris will push you to fire. Mark my words. That's how the fo..olish man was just saying rubbish during the pandemic. And he would even use many hours to analyze stup.idity. Mehn! That guy should be chained. I swear. Was he not the one who embarrassed Chris Okotie with marriage that time? Lol. He didnt know he would be a victim too. Useless man. I can never go to that that man's church. Never. Lol. Even his father called Benny Hinn too divorced. Look at how that Bnny Hinn talked to Adeboye that time. I swear, Adeboye had the spirit of God. Somehow gave him free space to preach. He was even blasting Adeboye in his church ooo. And Adeboye aas silent. Chai! I took Benny Hinn's "Good Morning Holy Ghost" and I almost tore it and I wanted to send it to him. But the Holy Spirit stopped me. I just thank God I listened to the Holy Spirit. See eh. You better open your eyes and go to a living church and stop going to that confused Chris. That was how the British govt fined him for spreading rubbish. The man would just pick microphone and start saying rubbish. I mean, I dont understand if those with him in the TV are foo.lish too.

You both better recheck yourself into a living church. Make you dey follow Chris about. Lol.
I pray Chris allows himself to be restored. I pray the miracle which happened to Hinn happens to him also but pending that, he should shut the crap up. Yes, tell him PeaceJoylove says Chris should shut the crap up and humble himself before God, and he should learn how to take care of a woman. He should go and get Anita back. Until then, he should shut up.

DappaD:
Your claim was that Moses divorced Zipporah, meanwhile the same Exodus chapter 18 and verse 5, says that Jethro brought back Zipporah to him at the mountain, Moses even called her “his wife” not “ex wife” after they were temporarily separated(given that Zipporah did not accompany Moses to Egypt)

A man divorces the daughter of another man, and the next thing you see is that man inviting the former husband of his daughter to a feast. If they were divorced, would that have happened?

Would he have been of assistance to Moses in judging cases in Israel?
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One more reason why your thought process is flawed is that Numbers 10:29 still refers to Reuel/Jethro as the father-in-law of Moses, long after that circumcision issue. So why is that the case if Moses had divorced Zipporah?

I’m still waiting for you to quote 1Timothy 3:5 let us see how it fits into your theory that one who ministers before God shouldn’t be held to account for conduct in his personal life.

The jerry-curled clown is just one those persons Jesus referred to as men who impose heavy loads on others but are not willing to apply such things to themselves. Matthew 23:2-4

Maestro21:

He is another irreverent JWit.
I would not engage him as well.

achorladey:


Oga calm down and read comment for here well well.

The only thing I see from my post you quoted is.......

I'm not a member of Jehovah Witness, but you are funny. It is very dangerous to associate with people who misinterpret Bible.

You could have shown the misinterpretation in my post. All this your pastor Chris here and there, no be me send you that message oooo na you get hand to dey tear people slaps here and there.

Sha no tear unnecessary slap give person you no suppose. I no dey send person message of tearing person slaps for no reason.

The time you used in typing tearing books and tearing slaps will have been worthwhile adding your own bit with the numerous example cited before page 4 of this thread.

The agitation in this your post get as e be. Baba calm down. Na Bible talk sey do not be righteous overmuch.

New International Version
For who makes you different from anyone else? What do you have that you did not receive? And if you did receive it, why do you boast as though you did not?

New Living Translation
For what gives you the right to make such a judgment? What do you have that God hasn’t given you? And if everything you have is from God, why boast as though it were not a gift?

The Holy spirit that is making you spill all this na collect you collect am from somewhere. Why you come dey agitate like this as if sey na you dey manufacture holy spirit?

Maestro21:

You can see them quoting fake blogs, completely useless audios, fake commentary in a conversation that should have been left strictly to the bible.

petra1:


I believe I cleared you on that. The father inlaw mediated.



yes its possible. He was a man Moses respected. He was also a minister of God. A priest



Sure he was a more experienced minister and leader. moses was kije a son. I dont see any issue.



it doesnt matter. If you send your wife packing. She can still be called your wife. some wives comes back after reconcilluation some dont. Some wives have come back 6 times and sent back home to their fathers house 6 times .

I’m still waiting for you to quote 1Timothy 3:5 let us see how it fits into your theory that one who ministers before God shouldn’t be held to account for conduct in his personal life.

If you have something to say about the verse go ahead

The jerry-curled clown is just one those persons Jesus referred to as men who impose heavy loads on others but are not willing to apply such things to themselves. Matthew 23:2-4


You dont have to be silly in your post. let stay on scripture please. your hairstyle is your choice. another mans hairstyle is his choice. if you admire it get the cream

petra1:



such things happens when someone is losing grounds. gets into attacks instead of Dwelling on scriptures and on the topic

Maestro21:


Please, be selective in who you respond to.

This person has mental problems. Please for the sake of sanity.

achorladey:

Don't worry he will start looking for Bible verses to state where it is forbidden for men to do Jerrycurled hair.

petra1:

I believe I cleared you on that. The father inlaw mediated.
yes its possible. He was a man Moses respected. He was also a minister of God. A priest
Sure he was a more experienced minister and leader. moses was kije a son. I dont see any issue.


it doesnt matter. If you send your wife packing. She can still be called your wife.


some wives comes back after reconcilluation some dont. Some wives have come back 6 times and sent back home to their fathers house 6 times .
I’m still waiting for you to quote 1Timothy 3:5 let us see how it fits into your theory that one who ministers before God shouldn’t be held to account for conduct in his personal life.
If you have something to say about the verse go ahead
The jerry-curled clown is just one those persons Jesus referred to as men who impose heavy loads on others but are not willing to apply such things to themselves. Matthew 23:2-4
You dont have to be silly in your post. let stay on scripture please. your hairstyle is your choice. another mans hairstyle is his choice. if you admire it get the cream

DappaD:


Honestly I like the spot I just put you in.
Can someone please educate this guy that once a marriage is dissolved, the man and woman are no longer husband and wife?
You can see how you’re fumbling here and there, talking offpoint.

Let me resound it well for you. Numbers 10:29 called Reuel/Jethro the father-in-law of Moses which means that Zipporah (his daughter) is still Moses’ wife long after the circumcision issue. That’s the conclusion of that matter.
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petra1:


Anyone who says God is against Jerry-curled hair, i will like to ask him how his hair looked when he was born as a baby. was it gorimapa, punk, afro or jerry curl. if its jerry curl then everyone critic shoukd keep their mouth shut. jerry curl came from heaven

DappaD:


Honestly I like the spot I just put you in.
Can someone please educate this guy that once a marriage is dissolved, the man and woman are no longer husband and wife?
You can see how you’re fumbling here and there, talking offpoint.

Let me resound it well for you. Numbers 10:29 called Reuel/Jethro the father-in-law of Moses which means that Zipporah (his daughter) is still Moses’ wife long after the circumcision issue. That’s the conclusion of that matter.

Your idea of Moses having problems in his marriage was only a smokescreen for the real problem here. You believe ministers of God shouldn’t be held into account for their conduct that’s why you tried to miscontrue what you did not understand regarding Moses.

And that was the reason for my quoting 1Timothy 3:5 which reads thus,

“(but if a man does not know how to manage his own household, how will he take care of the church of God?),” NASB

1Timothy chapter 3 lists out requirements for an overseer in the congregation, so contrary to what you have been saying, a man who is desiring for such position is meant to hold to the highest moral standards and be able to show that he can appropriately keep his family under his wing, which the jerry-curled clown has not been able to do. That’s why he’s not in a good position to lecture others about what should go on in their marriages.

petra1:


Firstly im not in any Spot. Dont get petty on words. If the word divorce becomes an issue for you to embrace the bigger picture. let me compromise a little. lets use the prase. HE SENT HER PACKING.

That actually what the bible says. HE SENT HER AWAY! . Its common sense to know what thst means . the hebrew word their means divorce. i wasnt there to know they issue certificate. that will be petty and lame to hide under.
The truth is simple. MOSES SENT HIS WIFE AWAY . And he married another woman. period. If he accepts her back good for her.

many times when a woman is sent home. those who are mediating will still say "COME CARRY YOUR WIFE Back " or they say to a woman sent home "GO BACK TO YOUR HUSBAND"

The fact that they call them wife or husband didnt nulify the broken relationship. So dont get into semantics

Maestro21:

You are not a christian. You have never been and for the love of God, before you leave this world I hope you become one.

Maestro21:

But for now, you are an unfortunate, wicked, diabolic, deceitful, vicious, irreverent and unrepentant soul.

Maestro21:

May God have mercy on you.

petra1:

Firstly im not in any Spot. Dont get petty on words. If the word divorce becomes an issue for you to embrace the bigger picture. let me compromise a little. lets use the prase. HE SENT HER PACKING.
That actually what the bible says. HE SENT HER AWAY! . Its common sense to know what thst means . the hebrew word their means divorce. i wasnt there to know they issue certificate. that will be petty and lame to hide under.
The truth is simple. MOSES SENT HIS WIFE AWAY . And he married another woman. period. If he accepts her back good for her.
many times when a woman is sent home. those who are mediating will still say "COME CARRY YOUR WIFE Back " or they say to a woman sent home "GO BACK TO YOUR HUSBAND"
The fact that they call them wife or husband didnt nulify the broken relationship. So dont get into semantics

MaxInDHouse:

I just hope you can define what a Christian means using Jesus' viewpoint!



All these beautiful compliments for a lost soul?
I believe you will win lots and lots of souls with those fine compliments.


Well my Bible doesn't teach me that God do have mercy on UNFORTUNATE, WICKED, DIABOLIC, DECEITFUL, VICIOUS, IRREVERENT and UNREPENTANT SOUL nah!
In fact what my Bible tells me is that only repentant sinners will be shown mercy so it's like your own god is a confused one o!

petra1:


Firstly im not in any Spot. Dont get petty on words. If the word divorce becomes an issue for you to embrace the bigger picture. let me compromise a little. lets use the prase. HE SENT HER PACKING.

That actually what the bible says. HE SENT HER AWAY! . Its common sense to know what thst means . the hebrew word their means divorce. i wasnt there to know they issue certificate. that will be petty and lame to hide under.
The truth is simple. MOSES SENT HIS WIFE AWAY . And he married another woman. period. If he accepts her back good for her.

many times when a woman is sent home. those who are mediating will still say "COME CARRY YOUR WIFE Back " or they say to a woman sent home "GO BACK TO YOUR HUSBAND"

The fact that they call them wife or husband didnt nulify the broken relationship. So dont get into semantics

Maestro21:


You are not a christian.

Maestro21:

You are not a christian.

DappaD:
It’s pretty simple actually. If they were divorced, Zipporah would no longer be called his wife and Jethro would no longer be called his father-in-law. But as the Bible would have it, they were. The reputation of the jerry-curled clown is already soiled thus far, but for God’s sake, leave Moses out of this, he never had any problems in his marriage, neither did he marry another wife.

MaxInDHouse:

Why not define "CHRISTIAN" using Jesus' own viewpoint?

petra1:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UjyuzHklV_E

Maestro21:


People who do not have the spirit cannot understand the scriptures no matter how hard they try.

They will always study themselves into confusion as the exhibit you are replying has shown.

Anyone who can actually study will see, Moses sent Zipporah away before the exodus. The bible clearly shows she was sent back to her father's house. It is easy to infer that she did not want her children circumcised and Moses obliged her but God was unhappy with him, and wanted to kill him, so she hurriedly circumcised the child and let her anger known to Moses. He responded by sending her back home.

After the exodus and when Moses was now situated at the wilderness, her father re-unites her with her husband. The bible goes on to show us Moses' reverence for him by how he greeted the man and filled him in on all God had done for the Jews from Egypt to the wilderness. The reverence part was significant because it shows that Moses would have honoured the man's gesture to fix his marriage for him.

Bible students can clearly again see that it took at least a year from Egypt to the wilderness. So Moses spent what might be a year without that wife - Zipporah.

Now a critical thinker will ask himself a question, if Moses had married Zipporah years before the Jews got to the wilderness (he met her around age 40+ and left for Egypt age 80), why will Aaron and Miriam start challenging him about taking the same woman as wife - 40+ years later? It makes zero sense because it is not so.

Aaron and Miriam are challenging Moses in Numbers 12 because the law had been given at this time and Moses, by marrying again outside his tribe, had broken the law. That is why they challenged him. It was a recent event. Even Flavius Josephus the historian agrees with this.

To further buttress this point, you will have to be the greatest conspiratorial mind to draw a connection between the Midianites and the Cushites or Ethiopians. Zipporah was a Midianite and the new wife was an Ethiopian. This is more creditworthy as Numbers 12 does STRESS that the criticism against Moses was the nationality of his wife. If it was the same person, then her nationality should not have been emphasized but it was.