1stGenAmerican:


Exactly, which is why you are my favorite Mod…regardless of the topic, you always examine the facts!

tellwisdom:


Are you technically saying no DNA report had ever been tampered before in the history of America and no judgement whatsoever overturned?. Educate me

I am not taking sides here whether he’s guilty or innocent. Just want to get some facts

ClixMaster:
He is just talking as if there is no single corruption in American judicial system.

DNA can be tampered anywhere.

chatinent:


You hold a JD, I can see why you are so certain..and that's because you have access to the records. I'm beginning to get fed up.

Permit me to ask some questions. Did the person in the footage match with Bar's? Did he agree he was the one? Did he agree to the crime?

1stGenAmerican:


Where did you get that information because it is not true. The footage was never withheld. In fact after being shown the footage, Mr. Bah signed an affidavit acknowledging that it is he who appears in the footage.

Additionally, the police were never at liberty to withhold the footage because it was never their property. It originated as the property of the complex.

Because it depicts a minor, it will never be released to the public as per policy in the US.

I truly hope no one believes that Mr. Bah was tried and convicted without the unredacted footage being shown to all parties involved in the proceedings.

justwise:


I want to ask you though..why was he given such a heavy jail sentence? I mean 3life sentences + 76 years is really over the top. I understand the severity of the offence but why not one life sentence or 76yrs?

justwise:
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ivolt:

I think he was convicted of 3 different capital crimes which tells a lot about his defense team
or his own behavior during trial.

justwise:


It seems as if though his defence team did not fight hard enough for a lesser jail term or maybe he did not work well with them. I read where he mentioned something about changing 3 defence teams

justwise:


I want to ask you though..why was he given such a heavy jail sentence? I mean 3life sentences + 76 years is really over the top. I understand the severity of the offence but why not one life sentence or 76yrs?

1stGenAmerican:


Sure! I can answer that.

The documents I posted DOES say that 2 sets of DNA were found. One belonged TO THE VICTIM and the other belonged TO YOU.

I am sitting here watching you rile these people up because most don’t have the capacity to understand what those documents state.

ANYONE in the US with a JD that is reading WILL NOT HELP YOU because the more you talk, the more we can tell that you are purposely being deceptive. There is no way on Gods green earth that a jury will find someone guilty when the DNA presented in court belongs to someone not related to the crime. That may happen in Nigeria but NOT HERE.

The people still believing you and asking me questions prove that they are clueless about the US Justice System.The Nigerian consulate will not help you because you lied to them. The person attending your Pretrial hearings stopped going and started ignoring you when the evidence and YOUR statements showed them you were lying.

Cc justwise

tellwisdom:


Pleaded guilty for an offense you said u didn’t commit? They showed you the video clip or tracked before you admitting ? No body will arrest any random person on the street without something directly linking to them.

A culprit is not expected to be at the crime scene before he or she is arrested. Don’t hide any truth bro. U are down already.

Powerhouse5050:


I was never arrested for this crime..... When the police stopped my SUV , they questioned me about it and the invited me to the police station to have more discussions about the 6 SUVs that I just bought and fully paid for,I drove to Douglas country police department by myself without any warrant.

After 20 minutes of interrogation at the police station about my SUV and the payment method....
The police officer changed the topic and said he will like to question me about a crime that happened in the complex I was living.

I replied him that he brought here to question me about my vehicles...but now he has changed it took a crime that happened....I have no idea about what you are taking about and because of that I don't want to say anything to you again.

After some persuation and I refused to talk , the detective then said he will have no option than to arrest me for the crime and he will charge me with rape...
This scenario happened just 2 hours after the crime happened.

2 hours for God sake

owagbeba:
@ Powerhouse5050

According the transcripts you have uploaded here, in which a DNA expert stated the the DNA profiling was inconclusive. Did your defense attorney argue before the trial judge that the DNA is not certain to be that of the defendant

Why did your attorney argue against the admissibility of the DNA profiling result using “trueallele ”, when this result never confirmed you as the individual that raped the victim?


According to 1stGenAmerican , he stated on this thread that you signed an affidavit affirming to be the person in cctv video chasing down the victim. Any truth to this allegation?

Did the victim ,in court, identify you as the attacker during cross examination?

Have you known this victim directly or indirectly prior to this rape incident? Any dealings ,directly or indirectly, with the victim?

justwise:


I want to ask you though..why was he given such a heavy jail sentence? I mean 3life sentences + 76 years is really over the top. I understand the severity of the offence but why not one life sentence or 76yrs?

chatinent:
1stGenAmerican, I appreciate all you have said. I thank you.

The sentences were apt for a crime like this, and should be really deserving for the culprit. But if it is served on an innocent person, it is bad...and that's were I am concerned.



You'll agree with me, based on precedent, that there exist a case where the DNA records proved wrong after some years of advancements while an innocent person was serving his sentence.

Powerhouse5050:


i was never arrested for this crime[/b].... When the police stopped my SUV , they questioned me about it and the invited me to the police station to have more discussions about the 6 SUVs that I just bought and fully paid for,I drove to Douglas country
I replied him that he brought here to question me about my vehicles...but now he has changed it took a crime that happened....I have no idea about what you are taking about and because of that I don't want to say anything to you again. After some persuation and I refused to talk , the detective then said he will have no option than to arrest me for the crime[b][/b] and he will charge me with rape...
This scenario happened just 2 hours after the crime happened.

2 hours for God sake

1stGenAmerican:


I’m not going to repeat myself again. The DNA tests were never proven “wrong”. I posted the 8-9 page document denying the motion for a reason. That reason is in those 8-9 pages.

Last time: he is purposely manipulating you because you lack knowledge of the American justice system, court proceedings, and due process. He knows what the documents I posted state but bigger than that, he knows that you all don’t understand. I’m not going to sit here and re-try this case in the court of Nairaland while he slowly feeds you deception, crumb by crumb and you are falling for it.

And he stated that he spent $150k on legal fees which is a lie. He was represented by an indigent defender.

Bush2013:

Stop stressing yourself over this issue. After going through everything I just shake my head.
People do alot here and get away and sometimes thinks it's same everywhere.

1stGenAmerican:


You said the key words: AFTER YOU WERE FOUND GUILTY.

Instead of planning to file an appeal, you accepted the guilty verdict and asked to be sent back to Nigeria. Those ARE NOT the actions of an innocent man.

YOU WERE COMFORTABLE AND DID NOT HESITATE TO RAPE THIS CHILD BECAUSE YOU FELT THAT SINCE YOU WERE NOT A CITIZEN AND ON A VISITORS VISA, IF CAUGHT INSTEAD OF HAVING TO STAND TRIAL AND GO TO JAIL, YOU WOULD JUST BE SHIPPED BACK TO NIGERIA.

Powerhouse5050:


I was never arrested for this crime..... When the police stopped my SUV , they questioned me about it and the invited me to the police station to have more discussions about the 6 SUVs that I just bought and fully paid for,I drove to Douglas country police department by myself without any warrant.

After 20 minutes of interrogation at the police station about my SUV and the payment method....
The police officer changed the topic and said he will like to question me about a crime that happened in the complex I was living.

I replied him that he brought here to question me about my vehicles...but now he has changed it took a crime that happened....I have no idea about what you are taking about and because of that I don't want to say anything to you again.

After some persuation and I refused to talk , the detective then said he will have no option than to arrest me for the crime and he will charge me with rape...
This scenario happened just 2 hours after the crime happened.

2 hours for God sake

owagbeba:
@ Powerhouse5050

According the transcripts you have uploaded here, in which a DNA expert stated the the DNA profiling was inconclusive. Did your defense attorney argue before the trial judge that the DNA is not certain to be that of the defendant

Why did your attorney argue against the admissibility of the DNA profiling result using “trueallele ”, when this result never confirmed you as the individual that raped the victim?


According to 1stGenAmerican , he stated on this thread that you signed an affidavit affirming to be the person in cctv video chasing down the victim. Any truth to this allegation?

Did the victim ,in court, identify you as the attacker during cross examination?

Have you known this victim directly or indirectly prior to this rape incident? Any dealings ,directly or indirectly, with the victim?

Skyview01:


Big mistake, police are not your friend. Dont ever, under any circumstances, honour a police invitation without an attorney present. They are never your friend.
You must have innocently said some incriminating stuff on that first visit.

Powerhouse5050:


The interrogation was about SUVs that I bought and paid off in cash, I didn't think I had anything to hide because it was honest business deal.

I said nothing incriminating and intact that was what pisses the detectives off.....they felt I was playing smart and that was why the detective Jay Hayes said to my face that if you don't tell us what you know, I have no other option than to arrest you for this crime.

There was no single evidence that showed I committed this crime at that time and no probable cause for my arrest on rape arge

Skyview01:


They used the suv as a decoy to get you into the station, gain your cooperation and subsequently detain you.
It also means they had no solid evidence to start with otherwise they would have simply gotten a warrant from a judge and not have to invite you.

I am not privy to all the evidence but you committed three big blunders ar trial.
You shouldn't have testified at trial as a defendant, you open yourself up to nasty cross-examinations and lose favour with the jury.
Your lawyer should have advised you. The jury and the judge would be clearly biased against you being a black foreign national which accounted for the harsh sentence.
Also, asking to be deported to Nigeria and begging for mercy come across as a clear sign of guilt. It will impact negatively on appeal. If you are innocent, always say, " i am innocent " over and over again.
Whether you are guilty or not, your defense did not do a good job.

1stGenAmerican:


The reason that the judge “threw the book at him” (which almost never happens) was for his blatant lack of remorse directly after the crime and during the trial, arrogance, and his victim-blaming.His attitude and demeanor during the trial was as if he was above the American Justice system and he treated it like a total joke and even the most violent American criminals don’t do that. Lastly, the court felt that since he had no remorse and blamed the victim, he would do this to another child if ever he was free again.

He was not sad or even remorseful until he the sentencing.

Powerhouse5050:


I lived in the same apartment complex..... I drive in and out...the lady in this case never said anything about a car or related matter

The police were talking about my SUV because that was what they used as decoy to get me into police station,the vehicle stuff had zero bearing on the case, howr

I never testified at trial...... Andwhy would anyone feel remorse for a crime you did not commit?

chatinent:


Can you share the footage if you have it? Can you share the dialogue?

Skyview01:


I think you are caught up in American crazy judicial system. You have to appeal the judgement.

Skyview01:


I think you are caught up in American crazy judicial system. You have to appeal the judgement.

Powerhouse5050:


The case is with Georgia court of appeal now........thank you