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Re: It’s Very Illogical To Worship The Christian God. by orisa37: 1:55pm On Oct 21
THE RESURRECTION IS. AN ALL TIME GRAVITATION.


HIS MIRACLE BIRTH WAS SUFFICIENT MASS.
Re: It’s Very Illogical To Worship The Christian God. by TenQ: 1:55pm On Oct 21
Workch:
OK, no gravity cannot exist without mass, it's an indication that the singularity before the big bang with infinite gravity was very massive and dense.

That's why we say the universe is eternal
No sir!
If the Gravitational Singleton is eternal, then, it must be a constant!
Do you agree?
Re: It’s Very Illogical To Worship The Christian God. by Workch: 1:55pm On Oct 21
dorox:


The universe has a finite past and Wikipedia agrees with me as you can see from the quote below


The general scientific consensus is that any conjecture as to what might have been before the singularity, or how it came to be will never be based on science.

Detailed measurement of the “expansion rate”.

You still don't get it
Re: It’s Very Illogical To Worship The Christian God. by Workch: 1:56pm On Oct 21
TenQ:

No sir!
If the Gravitational Singleton is eternal, then, it must be a constant!
Do you agree?
yes, ok?
Re: It’s Very Illogical To Worship The Christian God. by TenQ: 2:01pm On Oct 21
Workch:
yes, ok?
Are you sure the Gravitational Singleton is a constant?
Re: It’s Very Illogical To Worship The Christian God. by dorox(m): 2:01pm On Oct 21
Workch:
Detailed measurement of the “expansion rate”.

You still don't get it
What don't I get? Contrary to your claim that the universe is eternal, I have quoted several source that said the universe is of a finite age. So, what don't I get?
Re: It’s Very Illogical To Worship The Christian God. by orisa37: 2:13pm On Oct 21
THE RESURRECTION IS. AN ALL TIME GRAVITATION.


HIS MIRACLE BIRTH WAS SUFFICIENT MASS.


WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THE SPIRIT WHICH MOVED THE BIG BANG THAT PRODUCED LIGHT GOODNESS AND LIFE.

THE SPIRIT THAT COMPRISES ARTS, SCIENCE, ELECTRICITY AND ELECTRONICS. THE BIG BANG THAT PRODUCED BEYOND OUR SOLAR SYSTEM, THE STARS AND ALL THE UNSEEN UNDERNEATH THE EARTH. WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THE SUPREME SPIRIT, THE HUSBAND AND FATHER OF NATURE, THE ABSOLUTE COMMANDER OF THE UNIVERSE.

THE BIG BANG WAS JUST HIS HA AND SEE WHAT THAT HA HAS CAUSED THE UNIVERSE TILL TODAY.
Re: It’s Very Illogical To Worship The Christian God. by orisa37: 2:15pm On Oct 21
THE RESURRECTION IS. AN ALL TIME GRAVITATION.


HIS MIRACLE BIRTH WAS SUFFICIENT MASS.


WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THE SPIRIT WHICH MOVED THE BIG BANG THAT PRODUCED LIGHT GOODNESS AND LIFE.

THE SPIRIT THAT COMPRISES ARTS, SCIENCE, ELECTRICITY AND ELECTRONICS. THE BIG BANG THAT PRODUCED BEYOND OUR SOLAR SYSTEM, THE STARS AND ALL THE UNSEEN UNDERNEATH THE EARTH. WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THE SUPREME SPIRIT, THE HUSBAND AND FATHER OF NATURE, THE ABSOLUTE COMMANDER OF THE UNIVERSE.

THE BIG BANG WAS JUST HIS HA AND SEE WHAT THAT HA HAS CAUSED THE UNIVERSE TILL TODAY.

YOU WANT TO KNOW GOD KNOW SATAN FIRST.
Re: It’s Very Illogical To Worship The Christian God. by orisa37: 2:22pm On Oct 21
NaijaSatanlst:


He has been coming soon for over 1500 years. Maybe you should change your definition of the word, "soon" grin
Re: It’s Very Illogical To Worship The Christian God. by Workch: 2:26pm On Oct 21
TenQ:

Are you sure the Gravitational Singleton is a constant?
Singleton, you mean singularity?
Re: It’s Very Illogical To Worship The Christian God. by Workch: 2:27pm On Oct 21
dorox:

What don't I get? Contrary to your claim that the universe is eternal, I have quoted several source that said the universe is of a finite age. So, what don't I get?
conservation of mass means universe is eternal.
Mass cannot be created nor destroyed, whatever existed before Big Bang is still the same mass with what we have now.
Re: It’s Very Illogical To Worship The Christian God. by TenQ: 2:33pm On Oct 21
Workch:
Singleton, you mean singularity?
Sorry!
Gravitational Singularity: Are you sure it is a constant?
Re: It’s Very Illogical To Worship The Christian God. by Workch: 2:38pm On Oct 21
TenQ:

Sorry!
Gravitational Singularity: Are you sure it is a constant?
Whats your question again?
Re: It’s Very Illogical To Worship The Christian God. by TenQ: 2:46pm On Oct 21
Workch:
Whats your question again?
With reference to your statement where you said that: That's why we say the universe is eternal
I said:
If the Gravitational Singularity is eternal, then, it must be a constant!
Do you agree?
You said:
Workch:
yes, ok?

And I asked again:
TenQ:

Are you sure the Gravitational Singularity is a constant?

Are you sure that the Gravitational Singularity is a CONSTANT?
Re: It’s Very Illogical To Worship The Christian God. by Workch: 2:51pm On Oct 21
TenQ:

With reference to your statement where you said that: That's why we say the universe is eternal
I said:
If the Gravitational Singleton is eternal, then, it must be a constant!
Do you agree?
You said:

And I asked again:

Are you sure that the Gravitational Singularity is a CONSTANT?

Yes na, that’s what it means na, it has constant mass and energy and that’s why it has Infinite gravity due to enormous density
Re: It’s Very Illogical To Worship The Christian God. by TenQ: 2:55pm On Oct 21
Workch:
Yes na, that’s what it means na, it has constant mass and energy and that’s why it has Infinite gravity due to enormous density
By definition, a constant is that which does NOT change: if the gravitational singleton expanded into the less dense dispersed universe as we know it then the Gravitational Singleton is NOT a constant (it has changed).

Now, if the gravitational singleton changed (in fact it doesn't exist again), did it receive any help from the outside? LOL!!
Re: It’s Very Illogical To Worship The Christian God. by Workch: 3:00pm On Oct 21
TenQ:

By definition, a constant is that which does NOT change: if the gravitational singleton expanded into the less dense dispersed universe as we know it then the Gravitational Singleton is NOT a constant (it has changed).

Now, if the gravitational singleton changed (in fact it doesn't exist again), did it receive any help from the outside? LOL!!
It obvious you have a problem grabbing basic scientific concept. Why don’t you ask that I explain instead of reaching a wrong conclusion?

That’s not how constants work, you are getting wrong
Re: It’s Very Illogical To Worship The Christian God. by dorox(m): 3:11pm On Oct 21
Workch:
conservation of mass means universe is eternal.
Mass cannot be created nor destroyed, whatever existed before Big Bang is still the same mass with what we have now.


Nobody knows what existed before the big bang, or if indeed anything existed at all. In fact the term before the big bang is scientifically meaningless, its open to all kind of speculation.
The law of the conservation of mass and energy does not mean that the universe has always existed, rather it means that all that exist today was present in some form at the initial state of the universe and nothing about whether the initial state was created
Re: It’s Very Illogical To Worship The Christian God. by Workch: 3:24pm On Oct 21
dorox:



Nobody knows what existed before the big bang, or if indeed anything existed at all. In fact the term before the big bang is scientifically meaningless, its open to all kind of speculation.
The law of the conservation of mass and energy does not mean that the universe has always existed, rather it means that all that exist today was present in some form at the initial state of the universe and nothing about whether the initial state was created
This one is just contradicting himself
Re: It’s Very Illogical To Worship The Christian God. by dorox(m): 3:32pm On Oct 21
Workch:
This one is just contradicting himself

you should point out the contradiction as i do yours, that way we can continue to have a healthy and respectful debate.
Re: It’s Very Illogical To Worship The Christian God. by Workch: 3:38pm On Oct 21
dorox:


you should point out the contradiction as i do yours, that way we can continue to have a healthy and respectful debate.
Principle of conservation of mass states that matter has always remained constant. It cannot be created nor destroyed.
This is implies that the matter present in the singularity that expanded has not changed, they weren’t created and cannot be destroyed.

The big Bang is not the beginning, it only talked about when time and space started expanding.
Re: It’s Very Illogical To Worship The Christian God. by Workch: 3:43pm On Oct 21
dorox:



Nobody knows what existed before the big bang, or if indeed anything existed at all. In fact the term before the big bang is scientifically meaningless, its open to all kind of speculation.
The law of the conservation of mass and energy does not mean that the universe has always existed, rather it means that all that exist today was present in some form at the initial state of the universe and nothing about whether the initial state was created
The term Big Bang is scientifically coherent and we know what it means, it’s open to speculations only to those who think Big Bang is the beginning of the universe. Probably those who are outside of science.

If all matter always existed then where have they always existed in?
If the universe has not always existed then where did all the matter always exist in?

Outside of our universe? Or where?
Re: It’s Very Illogical To Worship The Christian God. by TenQ: 3:50pm On Oct 21
Workch:
It obvious you have a problem grabbing basic scientific concept. Why don’t you ask that I explain instead of reaching a wrong conclusion?

That’s not how constants work, you are getting wrong
You want to redefine what a constant is?

In case you still don't get it,
Is gravitational singleton a varying entity or a static entity?
Re: It’s Very Illogical To Worship The Christian God. by Workch: 3:58pm On Oct 21
TenQ:

You want to redefine what a constant is?

In case you still don't get it,
Is gravitational singleton a varying entity or a static entity?
Do you prefer if I start denigrating you or you want to understand how it works?
Re: It’s Very Illogical To Worship The Christian God. by dorox(m): 4:23pm On Oct 21
Workch:
The term Big Bang is scientifically coherent and we know what it means, it’s open to speculations only to those who think Big Bang is the beginning of the universe. Probably those who are outside of science.

If all matter always existed then where have they always existed in?
If the universe has not always existed then where did all the matter always exist in?

Outside of our universe? Or where?

Here is where we have a disagreement. Time as we know it started with the big bang, that is why it is scientifically meaningless to talk about time, space, energy and matter before the big bang. So, to say those things have always existed before the big bang shows that you have a flawed understanding of what the big bang is and how is used to explain the standard model of cosmology.

Time zero of the universe is the big bang, what was there or not there before it is anyone's guess. Could it be that the infinitesimally small and infinitely dense primordial atom came into existence by some science we don't understand at the moment of the big bang? Or was it created and infused with all the parameters necessary for our universe to exist? These are question that science will never be able to give answers to other than speculations. But to say that These thing have always existed is not supported by science. If you think it is, I would like to see your source.
Re: It’s Very Illogical To Worship The Christian God. by orisa37: 4:26pm On Oct 21
Workch:
Your mobile phone and internet work because of those mumu theories


I say "SPIRITOLOGY(PNEUMATOLOGY)" COMPRISES ARTS AND SCIENCES. Your Mobile phones and internet are just Tools of the Gifts of the SPIRITS. Your mumu Scientists are IGNORAMUS.
Re: It’s Very Illogical To Worship The Christian God. by Workch: 4:34pm On Oct 21
orisa37:



I say "SPIRITOLOGY(PNEUMATOLOGY)" COMPRISES ARTS AND SCIENCES. Your Mobile phones and internet are just Tools of the Gifts of the SPIRITS. Your mumu Scientists are IGNORAMUS.
lol grin
Re: It’s Very Illogical To Worship The Christian God. by Workch: 4:38pm On Oct 21
dorox:


Here is where we have a disagreement. Time as we know it started with the big bang, that is why it is scientifically meaningless to talk about time, space, energy and matter before the big bang. So, to say those things have always existed before the big bang shows that you have a flawed understanding of what the big bang is and how is used to explain the standard model of cosmology.

Time zero of the universe is the big bang, what was there or not there before it is anyone's guess. Could it be that the infinitesimally small and infinitely dense primordial atom came into existence by some science we don't understand at the moment of the big bang? Or was it created and infused with all the parameters necessary for our universe to exist? These are question that science will never be able to give answers to other than speculations. But to say that These thing have always existed is not supported by science. If you think it is, I would like to see your source.
ok good, you are contradicting yourself.
Science will never be able to give answers because you looking for a way to insert your deity.

Now this is were you are contradicting yourself, if matter has always existed and you say nothing existed before the Big Bang then where was matter existing in?
If matter didn’t exist before Big Bang it means that the law of conservation of matter and energy is wrong. Which is not the case because there was matter before Big Bang inform of singularity, hence matter existed before Big Bang. While there are mysterious still waiting to be unraveled, it doesn’t mean matter didn’t exist before Big Bang happened. It’s the matter called singularity that expanded to what we call Big Bang. Nothing implies that your god did it.
You do not have answers, you are looking for loopholes to insert your god.
Re: It’s Very Illogical To Worship The Christian God. by dorox(m): 4:41pm On Oct 21
Workch:
ok good, you are contradicting yourself.
Science will never be able to give answers because you looking for a way to insert your deity.

Now this is were you are contradicting yourself, if matter has always existed and you say nothing existed before the Big Bang then where was matter existing in?

You do not have answers, you are looking for loopholes to insert your god.

Where did you get that matter has always existed from? Your source please.
Re: It’s Very Illogical To Worship The Christian God. by Workch: 4:44pm On Oct 21
dorox:


Where did you get that matter has always existed from? Your source please.
There was a dense matter, that started the expansion. Something existed before Big Bang. If nothing existed before Big Bang, there will be no expansion
Got that?

Re: It’s Very Illogical To Worship The Christian God. by Workch: 4:46pm On Oct 21
dorox:


Where did you get that matter has always existed from? Your source please.
Matter existed before Big Bang, this is why I am telling you that we know when the universe started expanding which is 13.8billion and not When matter started existing.
Matter has always existed by law
Got that?
Re: It’s Very Illogical To Worship The Christian God. by dorox(m): 4:48pm On Oct 21
Workch:
ok good, you are contradicting yourself.
Science will never be able to give answers because you looking for a way to insert your deity.

Now this is were you are contradicting yourself, if matter has always existed and you say nothing existed before the Big Bang then where was matter existing in?
If matter didn’t exist before Big Bang it means that the law of conservation of matter and energy is wrong. Which is not the case because there was matter before Big Bang inform of singularity, hence matter existed before Big Bang. While there are mysterious still waiting to be unraveled, it doesn’t mean matter didn’t exist before Big Bang happened. It’s the matter called singularity that expanded to what we call Big Bang. Nothing implies that your god did it.
You do not have answers, you are looking for loopholes to insert your god.

The law of conservation of matter and energy does not apply before the big bang, in fact nothing does. That is why all your claims about before the big bang are just meaningless and contradictory.

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