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❤️❤️ There Is No Real Atheist Because by Bishopkingsley(m): 9:50am On Nov 16, 2021 |
There is no real Atheist because We see from the holy scripture The Bible let us know that it is a person who choose to says in their hearts that there is no God But that is actually not what their heart is saying because God truly placed eternity in the hearts of everyone So the heart of all those who keep saying in their hearts that there is no God what their heart is really saying to them is there is truly eternity somewhere Psalm 14:1 ► For the director of music. Of David. The simpleton says in his heart, “There is no God.” They are corrupt, their deeds are vile; there is no one who does good. New Living Translation Only simpleton say in their hearts, “There is no God.” They are corrupt, and their actions are evil; not one of them does good! Ecclesiastes 3:11 ► He has made everything beautiful in its time. He has also set eternity in the human heart; yet no one can fathom what God has done from beginning to end. New Living Translation Yet God has made everything beautiful for its own time. He has planted eternity in the human heart, but even so, people cannot see the whole scope of God’s work from beginning to end. 1 Like 1 Share
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Re: ❤️❤️ There Is No Real Atheist Because by Bishopkingsley(m): 10:02am On Nov 16, 2021 |
It take great faith to be a fake atheist 1 Like |
Re: ❤️❤️ There Is No Real Atheist Because by LordReed(m): 10:08am On Nov 16, 2021 |
LMFAO! Whatever makes you sleep well. Bwahahahahaha! 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: ❤️❤️ There Is No Real Atheist Because by Bishopkingsley(m): 10:17am On Nov 16, 2021 |
LordReed: LordReed you know I said the truth In your heart you feel it you know there is something out there that shows you inside your heart that eternity exists 1 Like |
Re: ❤️❤️ There Is No Real Atheist Because by LordReed(m): 10:22am On Nov 16, 2021 |
Bishopkingsley: Nope nothing like that. I have made my peace with the fact that when I die my eyes will never open again and my consciousness will be extinguished like a candle flame going out. The candle flame goes nowhere when it goes out, so it will be in death. Don't be apprehensive of death, it is the natural course, the journey no one returns from. Dreaming of eternal life won't change what will happen when you die. Accept that it will be the end and be at peace, instead of worrying of what you won't even know when you are dead. 3 Likes |
Re: ❤️❤️ There Is No Real Atheist Because by Bishopkingsley(m): 10:31am On Nov 16, 2021 |
LordReed: Am not apprehensive of death because I have seen him who is invincible I know what who I worship and I know what he said about death and how he will swallow up death at the last day and give us everlasting life LordReed: Yes it is truly a natural course because God said before any thing can grow it has to first die so the question is Talk the right things to your heart instead of Making the wrong peace to it Let your heart be the one speaking to you listen to it to hear it say to you there is eternity after life your life can never end here because the life force that powered you to life is eternal 1 Like |
Re: ❤️❤️ There Is No Real Atheist Because by LordReed(m): 10:34am On Nov 16, 2021 |
Bishopkingsley: How can the life force that powers my life be eternal when I am going to die? 1 Like |
Re: ❤️❤️ There Is No Real Atheist Because by Bishopkingsley(m): 10:59am On Nov 16, 2021 |
LordReed: The life force gave an instruction to us and we failed to obey the instruction because we failed to obey the life force that is why we were cut down which resulted to death But that same life force gave us a new commandment and only those who keep the new instruction will live again in a beautiful place And the rest will live again in terrible state 1 Like |
Re: ❤️❤️ There Is No Real Atheist Because by LordReed(m): 11:01am On Nov 16, 2021 |
Bishopkingsley: Yet none of you has lived to 200years so how am I supposed to believe you? 1 Like |
Re: ❤️❤️ There Is No Real Atheist Because by Bishopkingsley(m): 11:17am On Nov 16, 2021 |
LordReed: The life force gave an instruction to us and we failed to obey the instruction You can clearly see where I said us.... Now our eternal life only starts when Jesus comes physically and destroys all enemies So it not yet time |
Re: ❤️❤️ There Is No Real Atheist Because by LordReed(m): 12:15pm On Nov 16, 2021 |
Bishopkingsley: Bwahahahahaha! Sounds like 419 to me. Things you supposedly won't see until after your death is like someone selling you a pedestrian bridge or a flyover. LoLz 3 Likes |
Re: ❤️❤️ There Is No Real Atheist Because by Bishopkingsley(m): 12:22pm On Nov 16, 2021 |
LordReed: Well we trust him who created all things Beside there is a level your reach in God he will come and show himself to you Now even besides that let me ask you a question LordReed let us assume that there is no God now when you and I die then if there is no God none of us lost any thing you and I did not lose any thing because there will be no reward for any one who believed in God and there will be no reward for those who did not believe Now the next question LordReed now on this next scenario let us assume that there is a living God then you and I who do you think is going to receive a terrible punishment you can Cleary see you are the one who will pay a great price for refusing to believe him So LordReed is it not better for you to be on the safe side and believe in him so that if this two situations eventually happens you won't lose on any of them |
Re: ❤️❤️ There Is No Real Atheist Because by LordReed(m): 12:32pm On Nov 16, 2021 |
Bishopkingsley: Ok let us add some more scenarios. What if you die and find out the true god was all the gods of your forefathers that you discarded? What if when you die the true god is a god you never heard of? What if when you die there is no true god but everybody goes to their own version of heaven? We can sit here and imagine all manner of scenarios but until you can show me a reliable method of knowing what is true after you die, you are in no better position than I am. 1 Like |
Re: ❤️❤️ There Is No Real Atheist Because by Bishopkingsley(m): 12:56pm On Nov 16, 2021 |
LordReed: The scenario is only between those who say God exists and those who say he does not exist LordReed: By saying this your have now extended the discussion to another level But no problem let come into it now we have found out that there is only one living God you can ask those who you call forefathers they will equally tell you the same thing LordReed: This sample falls under the both of us lose nothing scenario LordReed: I don't need to show you because I already told you what if there is only two scenarios possible One A situation where there is no God Two A situation where there is God Now if want a reliable method It easy you can search through out other religion only one man Jesus has claimed to have died and came back to life No other person has ever done that or claim to have done that, this act alone shows you that Jesus is indeed reliable you can put your trust in him because he has died and he came back |
Re: ❤️❤️ There Is No Real Atheist Because by hopefulLandlord: 1:25pm On Nov 16, 2021 |
"The fool has said in his heart, 'There is no God.' They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that does good." (Psalms 14:1) Fallacies committed: ad hominem fallacy : An argument is discounted based on attacking the character of the person making the argument. ("He is wrong when he says there is no God, because he is a fool." ) strawman fallacy : Arguing against a position by creating a different, weaker, or irrelevant position and refuting that position instead of the original. ("There is no God" misrepresents "There isn't sufficient evidence that God exists." ) circular reasoning : The truth of the conclusion is assumed in order to justify the premises. ("The fool says there is no God, because anyone who says there is no God is a fool." ) begging the question : The argument creates a secondary proposition that is related to the primary proposition, which requires a similar argument that is missing. (The existence of God is assumed, while addressing propositions of whether God exists.) fallacy of inconsistency : The argument is inconsistent with other arguments within the same context. In the Christian context, Jesus commands against the invective in Psalms 14:1, warning that "whoever says 'You fool!' shall be liable to the hell of fire" in Matthew 5:22. special pleading : The inappropriate attribution of emotive functions to objects that do not have that capability. (Hearts are not capable of "knowing" or of feeling emotions.) redundancy : Psalm 53 is identical to Psalm 14. questionable premise : It is obviously not the case that all atheists do nothing but bad deeds. This premise is invalidated by a single example of an atheist doing a single charitable act. those are the different fallacies committed by just one verse 5 Likes |
Re: ❤️❤️ There Is No Real Atheist Because by LordReed(m): 1:31pm On Nov 16, 2021 |
Bishopkingsley: There is not only 2 scenarios since you can't tell me how to authenticate the supposedly post death experience. |
Re: ❤️❤️ There Is No Real Atheist Because by Bishopkingsley(m): 3:05pm On Nov 16, 2021 |
hopefulLandlord: Now let add more to it even Jesus own MAT 5:20 For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven. And the point he Jesus is making is that you can’t - In the verse i quoted, Jesus is saying that when you call someone ‘senseless/a fool’ (rhaka) you need to ensure you are doing this ‘righteously’ - else you yourself are in danger of being judged by the Law. The “Problem” Jesus proclaimed that “whoever says, ‘You fool!’ shall be in danger of hell fire” (Matthew 5:22). However, there are instances throughout Scripture where people are called fools. For example, let point the David own you point out David wrote, “The fool has said in his heart, ‘There is no God’” (Psalm 14:1). Paul told the Galatians they were foolish (Galatians 3:1). Jesus even said the Pharisees and scribes were fools in Matthew 23:17. If you were to study each biblical example where Bible calls someone a fool, you will find a righteous reason behind it. When Jesus called the Pharisees and scribes fools in Matthew 23:17, He explained that they were satisfying themselves instead of giving glory to God. They glorified the gold in the temple rather than the temple of God that housed the gold, which is foolish. Also, keep in mind that Jesus is the Judge and the Lawgiver with perfect knowledge, so He is able to do what humanity cannot do (James 4:11–12). And in everything, we must make sure we are basing our actions and words on the principles of Scripture, and, if we are to judge others, we judge righteously from God’s Word (John 7:24). Jesus doesn’t/didn’t have murderous anger in His heart towards those He called fools/foolish. He was making a statement of fact. As was Paul “O foolish Galatians! Who has bewitched you? It was before your eyes that Jesus Christ was publicly portrayed as crucified.” Galatians 3:1 Paul wasn’t denigrating the Galatians, belittling them, criticizing in a derogatory manner, he was pointing out to the Galatians that they have been fooled and/or were acting foolish because they ought to know better. The intent in Matthew5:22 with regards to the statement “you fool” wasn’t that you fool should never be used but that if used in a derogatory, denigrating, disparaging manner that person, whoever they may be, anyone including Jesus if He were to say you fool in that way would be liable to hell fire. Whereas Jesus doesn’t use the phrase in that way. “The Pharisee was astonished to see that he did not first wash before dinner. And the Lord said to him, “Now you Pharisees cleanse the outside of the cup and of the dish, but inside you are full of greed and wickedness. You fools! Did not he who made the outside make the inside also?” Luke 11:38-40 He is calling them out on their inconsistencies, short-sightedness and calling them fools for not thinking it through before asking their trick question. But it was not said derogatorily. He is just pointing out their inconsistencies. But no one can accuse Jesus as being murderous and angry in His statement. He is just picking apart their argument and letting them know they are fools for asking a foolish/stupid question assuming no one could see what was in their hearts. They thought themselves righteous because outwardly they looked the part but Jesus is telling them they didn’t fool anyone but themselves because God see both the Inside and the outside Now you Pharisees cleanse the outside of the cup and of the dish, but inside you are full of greed and wickedness And He explains that the Creator (Jesus) can see not only the outside but the inside. They looked like fools for trying to hide what God could clearly see was on the inside Did not he who made the outside make the inside also? This was an accurate description of their foolishness, trying to trick God by putting on a facade which God could see right through, making them proper fools, not as an insult but as a matter of fact. |
Re: ❤️❤️ There Is No Real Atheist Because by Bishopkingsley(m): 3:17pm On Nov 16, 2021 |
LordReed: You guys are so funny after I have proved scientifically how God is real The next step you guys came up with is I should authenticate post death experience Well the truth is even after I do this you won't still believe you will still device and find out another hard mystery for me to unlock before you can believe any thing And I bet you there are countless mysteries un answered on earth So God already knows this your method just like I know them LordReed nothing is going to satisfy you even if I die and come back to life you won't still believe my saying You and I only have to abide by those two scenarios and we have to use that as the yard stick when making our decisions |
Re: ❤️❤️ There Is No Real Atheist Because by Bishopkingsley(m): 8:37pm On Nov 16, 2021 |
You must believe in some thing even though you call that some thing nothing |
Re: ❤️❤️ There Is No Real Atheist Because by Workch: 8:41pm On Nov 16, 2021 |
This one just went unnecessary arguments |
Re: ❤️❤️ There Is No Real Atheist Because by Bishopkingsley(m): 9:34pm On Nov 16, 2021 |
Workch: My job is to win you to Christ Because we know our God is a consuming fire On the day of accountability you will wish you had listened to me |
Re: ❤️❤️ There Is No Real Atheist Because by Workch: 9:39pm On Nov 16, 2021 |
Bishopkingsley:Well, you are doing a very bad job. You cannot convince any atheist this way until you find hard verifiable evidence |
Re: ❤️❤️ There Is No Real Atheist Because by Jeremani: 10:09pm On Nov 16, 2021 |
But I can't buy it, it's just too hard to stand beside it I need an answer and humans can't provide it I look at the Earth and Sun and I can tell a genius man designed it It's truly mind blowing, I can't deny it Is heaven real? Is it fake? Is it really how I fantasize it? Where's the Holy Ghost at? How long it take Man to find it? My mind's a nonstop tape playing and I can't rewind it You gave me a Bible and expect me not to analyze it? Now I'm supposed to bow my head and close my eyes And somehow let the Holy Ghost arise Sound's like a fucking Poltergeist I hate the fact that I have to believe You haven't been chatting with me like you did Adam and Eve And I ain't seen no fucking talking snake unravel from trees With an apple to eat, that shit never happens to me Man what if Jesus was a facade? Then that would mean the government's god I feel like they've been brainwashing us with a lot So much that we don't even notice that we're stuck in the box Man everything is "what if", why is it always "what if" Planet Earth "what if", the universe "what if" My sacrifice "what if", my afterlife "what if" Every fucking thing that deals with you is fucking suspect |
Re: ❤️❤️ There Is No Real Atheist Because by LordReed(m): 10:17pm On Nov 16, 2021 |
Bishopkingsley: You didn't prove god scientifically. How can you when you don't have any data to do so? If you are going to be making claims then have your evidence at hand, I am not going to believe simply because you said so. When you die and resurrect after 1 week come back and show me the evidence plus the evidence you brought from the afterlife. I don't abide by those 2 scenarios because they aren't the only possibilities if we are going by religious views. |
Re: ❤️❤️ There Is No Real Atheist Because by Bishopkingsley(m): 3:32am On Nov 17, 2021 |
Jeremani: You mentioned a talking snake have you not noticed when ever you want to do wrong that a voice always speak to you to do that wrong thing that is exactly the vioce of the snake So you don't need to see a physical snake speaking with you before you believe in the story Now So many points you made let analyze the most important Jeremani: Now where is gravity No one can see gravity yet due to it power and effects every one respects it That it how it is with the holy spirit you can't see him but his power is been felt it day of judgement can be sensed it coming Now let move to who you can see which is Jesus now there are conditions you need to meet before Jesus can appear to you You have to really hunger for him and each day you have to ask him to show himself to you and I can guaranty you within few month you will see him Because whom so ever seek him will surely find him but the first step to all this is for you to receive Jesus in to your heart so he can start speaking with you just like God spoke to Adam and eve Accepting Jesus into your heart is the begging of all God has in store for you 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: ❤️❤️ There Is No Real Atheist Because by Bishopkingsley(m): 3:49am On Nov 17, 2021 |
LordReed: LordReed I did prove God exists with the data collected from science https://www.nairaland.com/6819891/science-discovered-god-which-shows The evidence is already been proven and there is no way you guys can run from it because it your own people who actually discovered the forces exist and those forces they discovered is exactly what Bible is saying Now When someone dies and come back to life which other evidence do you need from him when he already shown you he is back to life By just the fact that he is back to life that should only be the evidence that you need because you already know it not a random thing to come back to life after few days So once you see him back to life that should only be the evidence you are seeking for but if you are saying you want some other prove after he is back to life then let be truthful you are not been reasonable So only coming back to life is what we need to guarantee he is the father of truth because such a person what ever they say after they are back to life should be taken as the truth Now on the two Scenarios you and I know that is the best summary of how the things going to play out One Let assume there is no ultimate God and he does not exist .... Two Let assume there is one ultimate God and he exists Question LordReed I ask you again if one of this two scenarios play out at the end Who do you think is going to weep and be in a terrible state? From this scenario above now am begging to see why God put Psalm 14:1 ► Because it obvious this scenario shows those who believe are really wise at heart 1 Like |
Re: ❤️❤️ There Is No Real Atheist Because by Bishopkingsley(m): 4:27am On Nov 17, 2021 |
Workch: Both of us have already talked about the evidence I gave you a beautiful evidence and you could not refute it https://www.nairaland.com/6819891/science-discovered-god-which-shows The evidence was clear besides like I said here there is no real atheist Because eternity is blazing inside your heart 1 Like |
Re: ❤️❤️ There Is No Real Atheist Because by LordReed(m): 6:25am On Nov 17, 2021 |
Bishopkingsley: You didn't prove god, you conjectured god from a single data point. If you think that is how science works then you are very much mistaken. And I tell you once again that there are more than 2 scenarios since you cannot provide any evidence of the afterlife, you are merely speculating and far as speculationsgo we definitelycan speculate a lot more than 2 scenarios. When you can produce evidence of an afterlife lemme know. |
Re: ❤️❤️ There Is No Real Atheist Because by Workch: 6:50am On Nov 17, 2021 |
Bishopkingsley:You have to first go and understand what they call evidence before preaching the gospel. Seems you don’t understand what evidence is |
Re: ❤️❤️ There Is No Real Atheist Because by Bishopkingsley(m): 6:56am On Nov 17, 2021 |
LordReed: I proved God very Clearly Energy The first law of thermodynamics, also known as Law of Conservation of Energy, states that energy can neither be created nor destroyed; energy can only be transferred or changed from one form to another. ... In other words, energy cannot be created or destroyed. Men of science sat down and discovered that there is something that has always been and that something can not be destroyed Due to they are on the neutral side of things they called it energy...... Had it been they called it God you would have swallowed it up and start to worship it Up till now you have not disputed their findings you have not said to them energy or gravity does not exist.... You opened your hands and swallowed their findings you even acknowledge the physical things they use their finds to produce Now that some thing they called enegyy is what we call God it as simple as ABCD The only difference is that our own energy in the Bible powers both living thing and non living thing Now even the science enegyy powers living things too to some level Now that is a beautiful prove of God existence refusing to accept this evidence is refusing to believe that science theory The energy definition already explains it self can not be created and can not be destroyed Which is one aspect of God definition too It up to you to equally swallow this evidence the same way you swallow other science evidence without further explanation Now apart from theology no other subject beat science now you already said you don't believe theology so which mean science is the ultimate since that the case One Let now assume there is one ultimate God called science Two Let assume there is no ultimate God called science Now a man from far away undeveloped city meets you and says to you prove to me that science exists that he does not believe in it That there is nothing like electricity So we are only left with two scenarios It either you believe in science or you don't there are no middle ground 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: ❤️❤️ There Is No Real Atheist Because by Bishopkingsley(m): 7:48am On Nov 17, 2021 |
Workch: ev·i·dence /ˈevədəns/ noun the available body of facts or information indicating whether a belief or proposition is true or valid. "the study finds little evidence of overt discrimination" ev·i·dence /ˈevədəns/ noun the available body of information indicating whether a belief is true or valid. My brother Workch I think you are the one to really cross check the meaning that you have in your mind to check if it actually the true meaning I know you are probably thinking evidence must be a physical thing nope As you can see here from Google it says evidence can be a collection or body of information..... So I have used the already known vital information provided by scholars and science men to prove that God exists I did not send myself rather it is God who sent me to you don't reject his words I am the second physical evidence which proves he exists because he sent me to you to tell you that he is indeed real All you have to do is receive my words the same way you have received the manual instructions when you buy each electronic device from the market you read the manual and you always obey it rules sometimes you even know their rules off hand So believe on him who sent me or believe in the science evidence I gave you of him |
Re: ❤️❤️ There Is No Real Atheist Because by LordReed(m): 9:20am On Nov 17, 2021 |
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