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Re: Ndigbo: Pride Goes Before A Fall by Fejoku: 5:55am On Nov 26, 2021
Igboid:


I think the Iguana thing in Bonny came from Aboh.
They have similar culture over there, you find the Iguana reverance anywhere Aboh had influence on.
Even in Orogun now part of Urhobo where Abohs once held sway and in Ndoni(Ndi-onu-iyi), the Iguana reverance is prominent.

Noticed also that the name Aboh called Bonny was written in the article the Ijaw guy shared.
All these shows that Aboh had great influence and contact with early Bonny and must have also supplied some of it's early occupants/Indigenes.

It's all making sense now. I
Aboh was a major business centre in the early and mid 1800s. She shipped thousands of slaves to Bonny through Brass. After slave trade was banned, some european ships used to hide in the shades of Brass to carry away slaves unnoticed by the British navy who were on the open seas around Bonny to enforce the ban. Some of those ships after loading and heading for the Americas when finally caught were those whose content were taken to Freetown, Sierra Leone.
The Igbos of Aboh call Bonny 'Oshimili-Ukwu'.
Re: Ndigbo: Pride Goes Before A Fall by ChinenyeN(m): 6:33am On Nov 26, 2021
BKayy:
This is the reason why there is a field called Archeology, you don't open mouth and talk rubbish because one old man that survived stroke in your area told you so like ChinenyeN normally do here.

*grins* Lol. Is that what I do?
Re: Ndigbo: Pride Goes Before A Fall by Ekealterego: 6:43am On Nov 26, 2021
Alabo7978:

Well, I don't have time for you, OTONYE DOMOKUMA, name sounds familiar?
You've been defeated before.
Let me face bkayy the dullard, then I'll rename him just as I did you by enculturating him according to ijaw rituals like my ancestors did to Jubo jubogha.
Says a drunk fishermen who claims to "read a lot and have a lot of book" and the only reference he can make is an encyclopedia. Just like your ancestors, you guys are incapable of producing anything.
Re: Ndigbo: Pride Goes Before A Fall by BKayy: 7:08am On Nov 26, 2021
Ekealterego:

You don't even need to go into long argument. The document never said Okoloama. it read, "Okoloma".
Same Okoloma is Ndoki till today.

Samuel Crowther clearly wrote Okoloma, he did not write "Okoloama".

So, since the argument is based on the cut excerpt he is hanging on, let us go by that Okoloma name.

This is Okoloma in Ndoki.
He just can't prove anything without sounding Igbo.
Using Igbo words to prove that an Igbo town is Ijaw is very funny.
Alabo7978, the Ogogoro enter you well well

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Re: Ndigbo: Pride Goes Before A Fall by BKayy: 7:40am On Nov 26, 2021
Fejoku:

We were miles ahead of the Ijaws who today are insulting us. There's no single area of comparison. Not in agricultural production, wood carvings, metalsmithing (Ijaws have no single record of any metalsmithing), cloth weaving etc. Their only saving grace was the magnanimity of Ndigbo who took them as equals and related with them fairly. They were a wretched bunch until a few on them ventured into the Eastern shorelines from their ancestral creeks in Bayelsa. You will notice in all of Ijaw history, wealth is only associated with those of them that related with Igbos right from Brass and Nembe into the Kalabari and Okrika Islands. It was our industry and sadly slave trade that helped them grow the little wealth their ancestors tasted. They will only understand this when oil loses value or run dry in their areas.
The king of Brass was like a vassal to Eze Obi Ossai of Aboh. He use to pay something like a tribute to him. Most of the yams, maize and domesticated animals including palm oil they used to survive they got from us. They have no single developed industry with the exception of salt production and fishing.
Ijaw didn't get any wealth from slave trade because none of the trade was done through them.

Major Ports used during slave trade was Warri (Itsekiri), Badagry (Ijebu/Awori), Bonny (Igbo). Ijaw was actually insignificant during the slave trade. What we have here is the case of unchallenged history over writing or theft.

Had it been that someone challenged Alagoa when he made those statements like the way Greece challenged Former Yugoslav Macedonia when they tried to steal the history of Hellenic Greek Macedonia, we won't be doing this today.

But I don't blame our people that much because when Alagoa did it (1971), they were just trying to pick up their lives from the uncivil Genocidal attempt on them.

It is funny how indigenes of a town went from fully identifying as Igbo without any skirmish to having identity crisis after the war. Indigenes of Bonny were in Eastern region parliament and they never had issues with their identity until a man from Nembe called Alagoa rewrote their history for them. If there were any doubt in their identity prior to the war, Isaac Adaka Boro would have included them in the Niger-Delta Republic he declared, a Republic made up of Ijaw and those he considered related people like Atissa-Epie and Brass. He never included Bonny, Okirika and Kalabari then because their identity was not in doubt.
His map was what is today most of Bayelsa and a very small part of Delta

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Re: Ndigbo: Pride Goes Before A Fall by Eastlink(m): 7:44am On Nov 26, 2021
ChinenyeN:
Alabo7978, I’m surprised you’re still going at it with them for this long. This back and forth is ahistorical. And at the end of the day, it is a contest of stamina not actual traditions and history. Igbo propagandists don’t care about actual oral history and traditions and they certainly don’t care about what you may have to say. They will outlast you in this argument out of sheer hubris and call it a win for themselves.
Ijaw man claiming Igbo. So you finally dropped your Imemba moniker? An old fox can never change it's ways. After getting smashed on Facebook (Igbo history) where you displayed your idiocy with the Imemba moniker you ran back here.
Bonny/Opobo is Igbo. History recorded it and language proves it.

Igbo nairalanders, the moniker Chinenye is not Igbo neither is he Ngwa. Dude is Ijaw and has been on several forum propagating his Igbo balkanization agenda since early 2000’s.

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Re: Ndigbo: Pride Goes Before A Fall by Eastlink(m): 7:50am On Nov 26, 2021
BKayy:

Ijaw didn't get any wealth from slave trade because none of the trade was done through them.

Major Ports used during slave trade was Warri (Itsekiri), Badagry (Ijebu/Awori), Bonny (Igbo). Ijaw was actually insignificant during the slave trade. What we have here is the case of unchallenged history over writing or theft.

Had it been that someone challenged Alagoa when he made those statements like the way Greece challenged Former Yugoslav Macedonia when they tried to steal the history of Hellenic Greek Macedonia, we won't be doing this today.

But I don't blame our people that much because when Alagoa did it (1971), they were just trying to pick up their lives from the uncivil Genocidal attempt on them.

It is funny how indigenes of a town went from fully identifying as Igbo without any skirmish to having identity crisis after the war. Indigenes of Bonny were in Eastern region parliament and they never had issues with their identity until a man from Nembe called Alagoa rewrote their history for them. If there were any doubt in their identity prior to the war, Isaac Adaka Boro would have included them in the Niger-Delta Republic he declared, a Republic made up of Ijaw and those he considered related people like Atissa-Epie and Brass. He never included Bonny, Okirika and Kalabari then because their identity was not in doubt.
His map was what is today most of Bayelsa and a very small part of Delta
That’s it. No one challenged Alagoa and Fombo in 1971. And Ijaw only claim to Bonny is the fraudulent write-up by Alagoa nothing more, nothing less.

However, the good thing is that men like late Prof Dike and late Prof Jones have already finished work on Bonny history before the rise of Alagoa. Encyclopedia and Wikipedia are simply Ijaw tool for propaganda sponsored by Ijaw leadership as Alagoa’s ideas is what is printed there. Even the speak Ibani (Kalabari dialect) going on in Bonny is Ijaw initiative kick-started by Alagoa and yet the Igbo leadership keeps quiet instead of springing their own surprise.

The only way to stop the Ijaw landgrab madness going on in Rivers state is a political solution. The Governors who have ruled Rivers minus Amaechi are all pro-Ijaw and anti-Igbo in orientation. Igbos need to rally a strong Igbocentric Governor to undo the over-40 years damage Ijaw rule have done in the pyshe of most Rivers indigene. This is why you have Ijaw pushing their agenda in Riverine Rivers state. The earlier Ndigbo do like the Yoruba who tactically and gradually made Warri/Itshekiri a pro-Yoruba town, the earlier it does for Bonny.

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Re: Ndigbo: Pride Goes Before A Fall by BKayy: 7:51am On Nov 26, 2021
Ekealterego:

You don't even need to go into long argument. The document never said Okoloama. it read, "Okoloma".
Same Okoloma is Ndoki till today.

Samuel Crowther clearly wrote Okoloma, he did not write "Okoloama".

So, since the argument is based on the cut excerpt he is hanging on, let us go by that Okoloma name.

This is Okoloma in Ndoki.
I know my brother. I am just playing along.
I want to know if he could prove that Ubani is Ijaw without using Igbo language and he couldn't.

He ennlogated it to "ama" because he thought that with the little Bonny dialect he knows that "Ama" might mean something different in Igbo but due to ignorance, he didn't know it is basic Igbo that mean the same thing all round.

Mr Alabo7978, you are one hell of a confused but funny dude.

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Re: Ndigbo: Pride Goes Before A Fall by ChinenyeN(m): 8:05am On Nov 26, 2021
Eastlink:
Ijaw man claiming Igbo. So you finally dropped your Imemba moniker? An old fox can never change it's ways. After getting smashed on Facebook (Igbo history) where you displayed your idiocy with the Imemba moniker you ran back here.
Bonny/Opobo is Igbo. History recorded it and language proves it.

Igbo nairalanders, the moniker Chinenye is not Igbo neither is he Ngwa. Dude is Ijaw and has been on several forum propagating his Igbo balkanization agenda since early 2000’s.

To say all this? You are getting desperate it seems. cheesy

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Re: Ndigbo: Pride Goes Before A Fall by BKayy: 8:10am On Nov 26, 2021
Eastlink:
That’s it. No one challenged Alagoa and Fombo in 1971. And Ijaw only claim to Bonny is the fraudulent write-up by Alagoa nothing more, nothing less.

However, the good thing is that men like late Prof Dike and late Prof Jones have already finished work on Bonny history before the rise of Alagoa. Encyclopedia and Wikipedia are simply Ijaw tool for propaganda sponsored by their leadership as Alagoa’s ideas is what is printed there. Even the speak Ibani (Kalabari dialect) going on in Bonny is Ijaw initiative kick-started by Alagoa and yet the Igbo leadership keeps quiet instead of springing their own surprise.
If you see the way Hellenic Greece Followed Former Yugoslav Macedonia bumper to bumper even to the extent of taking them to court until they changed their name officially from "Macedonia" to "Northern Macedonia"

An attack on someone's history is not a joking matter. Imagine history of Igbo clans that the Eastern Region spent resources to compile was thrown away immediately after the war by one man's article because Nigeria was looking for a way to cut Igbo to bits.
An article that doesn't tally with the reality on ground. Now look at them, even till today Ijaw people are still moving up and down from Bonny to Opobo to Ndoki in an attempt to make an impossibility a reality. Look at Ebi2233 and Alabo7978, see how they are sweating chasing shadows.
This is approximately 50 years since the idea/abomination/stupidity was initiated by Alagoa but what fruit did it yield if it takes a simple push by any Igbo man to dismantle the lies.

The lies are easy to dismantle because unlike Igbo, Ijaw have very little to no existing cultural similarity with the places Nigeria is backing them to claim.
They don't speak the same language.
They don't have similar views etc.

One stumbling to the lies is that whenever an Igbo person, Ikwerre, Ika, Bonny or Opobo that the according to Nigeria are different meet themselves outside their comfort zones, it turns to a reunion. I still remember my first encounter with all the groups in the university, they said they were not Igbo but with time we all started seeing similarities and they started having doubts with their orientation.
After few years, we accepted that we are all the same.

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Re: Ndigbo: Pride Goes Before A Fall by Alabo7978(m): 8:16am On Nov 26, 2021
Eastlink:
That’s it. No one challenged Alagoa and Fombo in 1971. And Ijaw only claim to Bonny is the fraudulent write-up by Alagoa nothing more, nothing less.

However, the good thing is that men like late Prof Dike and late Prof Jones have already finished work on Bonny history before the rise of Alagoa. Encyclopedia and Wikipedia are simply Ijaw tool for propaganda sponsored by Ijaw leadership as Alagoa’s ideas is what is printed there. Even the speak Ibani (Kalabari dialect) going on in Bonny is Ijaw initiative kick-started by Alagoa and yet the Igbo leadership keeps quiet instead of springing their own surprise.

The only way to stop the Ijaw landgrab madness going on in Rivers state is a political solution. The Governors who have ruled Rivers minus Amaechi are all pro-Ijaw and anti-Igbo in orientation. Igbos need to rally a strong Igbocentric Governor to undo the over-40 years damage Ijaw rule have done in the pyshe of most Rivers indigene. This is why you have Ijaw pushing their agenda in Riverine Rivers state. The earlier Ndigbo do like the Yoruba who tactically and gradually made Warri/Itshekiri a pro-Yoruba town, the earlier it does for Bonny.
In simple terms, what this clown is trying to say up there is that professor dike and professor Jones are right and Professors Alagoa and fombo are wrong eh?

Lol. Igbo people.
See, I want you to go to Bonny yourself, and ask the Bonny people where they came from.
Many families trace their ancestry from kolokuma, many traces theirs also to Nembe.
Instead of you trying to tell smelling lies.
Oga the truth is the truth, that is why there is an enormous population of the Igbo diaspora in the south side of America, in the Caribbeans, in Jamaica, in Haiti. Stop lieng motherfucker.
You were SLAVES, big fat farming slaves and you wonder why Encyclopedia only brings forth the verifiable truth of professor Alagoa and Fombo?
Jesus Christ, what is there so hard to see?
Even in the Igbo landing, the stubborn slaves refused to work and they drowned.
The ijoh's sent them there.
Why you dey lie like this?
All this proves, the enormous igbos in allover carribean, Haiti and America you still dey lie like this!
Tufia!
Ekealterego, bkayy, Igboid and the rest of your cheap drug dealing land grabbing psychotic chameleons are fucking liars even the devil is shocked.
Re: Ndigbo: Pride Goes Before A Fall by BKayy: 8:19am On Nov 26, 2021
Alabo7978:

In simple terms, what this clown is trying to say up there is that professor dike and professor Jones are right and Professors Alagoa and fombo are wrong eh?

Lol. Igbo people.
See, I want you to go to Bonny yourself, and ask the Bonny people where they came from.
Many families trace their ancestry from kolokuma, many traces theirs also to Nembe.
Instead of you trying to tell smelling lies.
Oga the truth is the truth, that is why there is an enormous population of the Igbo diaspora in the south side of America, in the Caribbeans, in Jamaica, in Haiti. Stop lieng motherfucker.
You were SLAVES, big fat farming slaves and you wonder why Encyclopedia only brings forth the verifiable truth of professor Alagoa and Fombo?
Jesus Christ, what is there so hard to see?
Even in the Igbo landing, the stubborn slaves refused to work and they drowned.
The ijoh's sent them there.
Why you dey lie like this?
All this proves, the enormous igbos in allover carribean, Haiti and America you still dey lie like this!
Tufia!
Ekealterego, bkayy, Igboid and the rest of your cheap drug dealing land grabbing psychotic chameleons are fucking liars even the devil is shocked.
Please Eastlink, Slayerforever, Ekealterego and Igboid let's ignore this drunk and have a reasonable conversion.

We will gain nothing by trying to educate a drunk who thinks they sold slaves but can give a name of one their slave traders. A drunk that think they had any edge over anybody but can't show where or prove that anybody saw them as significant during the colonial era.

Someone that rely on Wikipedia, Britannica and arguing what is literally written by Ajayi Crowther like a kid.

Someone that uses word from the language of the other nation he is dragging with to explain the bone of contestion.

Someone that cannot point out any civilisation by his people or any picture of anything depicting them until recent boat regatta of late 90s

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Re: Ndigbo: Pride Goes Before A Fall by Igboid: 8:27am On Nov 26, 2021
Eastlink:
That’s it. No one challenged Alagoa and Fombo in 1971. And Ijaw only claim to Bonny is the fraudulent write-up by Alagoa nothing more, nothing less.

However, the good thing is that men like late Prof Dike and late Prof Jones have already finished work on Bonny history before the rise of Alagoa. Encyclopedia and Wikipedia are simply Ijaw tool for propaganda sponsored by Ijaw leadership as Alagoa’s ideas is what is printed there. Even the speak Ibani (Kalabari dialect) going on in Bonny is Ijaw initiative kick-started by Alagoa and yet the Igbo leadership keeps quiet instead of springing their own surprise.

The only way to stop the Ijaw landgrab madness going on in Rivers state is a political solution. The Governors who have ruled Rivers minus Amaechi are all pro-Ijaw and anti-Igbo in orientation. Igbos need to rally a strong Igbocentric Governor to undo the over-40 years damage Ijaw rule have done in the pyshe of most Rivers indigene. This is why you have Ijaw pushing their agenda in Riverine Rivers state. The earlier Ndigbo do like the Yoruba who tactically and gradually made Warri/Itshekiri a pro-Yoruba town, the earlier it does for Bonny.

Nwanne, it's been a while.
Good to have you back.
Re: Ndigbo: Pride Goes Before A Fall by walefresh3(m): 8:37am On Nov 26, 2021
The Bitter Truth About The Igbo, By Femi Fani-Kayode
June 3, 2017
This article written by Femi Fani-kayode in 2013 has being trending on WhatsApp today and we thought we should bring it back for our numerous readers.

Permit me to make my second and final contribution to the raging debate about Lagos, who owns it and the seemingly endless tensions that exist between the Igbo and the Yoruba. It is amazing how one or two of the numerous nationalities that make up Nigeria secretly wish that they were Yoruba and consistently lay claim to Lagos as being partly theirs. Have they forgotten where they came from? I have never heard of a Yoruba wanting to give the impression to the world that he is an Igbo, an Ijaw, an Efik or a Hausa-Fulani or claiming that he is a co-owner of Port Harcourt, Enugu, Calabar, Kano or Kaduna. Yet more often than not, some of those that are not of Yoruba extraction but that have lived in Lagos for some part of their lives have tried to claim that they are bona fide Lagosians and honorary members of the Yoruba race.


Clearly it is time for us to answer the nationality question. These matters have to be settled once and for all. Lagos and the South-west are the land and the patrimony of the Yoruba and we will not allow anyone, no matter how fond of them we may be, to take it away from us or share it with us in the name of ”being nice”, ”patriotism”, ”one Nigeria” or anything else. The day that the Yoruba are allowed to lay claim to exactly the same rights and privileges that the indigenous people in non-Yoruba states and zones enjoy and the day they can operate freely and become commissioners and governors in the Niger Delta states, the North, the Middle Belt and the South-east, we may reconsider our position. But up until then, we shall not do so. Lagos is not a ”no-man’s land” but the land and heritage of the Yoruba people. Others should not try to claim what is not theirs.


I am not involved in this debate for fun or for political gain and I am not participating in it to play politics but rather to speak the truth, to present the relevant historical facts to those that wish to learn and to educate the uninformed. That is why I write without fear or favour and that is why I intend to be thoroughly candid and brutally frank in this essay. And I am not too concerned or worried about what anyone may think or how they may feel about what I am about to say because I am a servant of truth and the truth must be told no matter how bitter it is and no matter whose ox is gored. That truth is as follows. The Yoruba, more than any other nationality in this country in the last 100 years, have been far too accommodating and tolerant when it comes to their relationship with other nationalities in this country and this is often done to their own detriment. That is why some of our Igbo brothers can make some of the sort of asinine remarks and contributions that a few of them have been making in this debate both in the print media and in numerous social media portals and networks ever since Governor Fashola ”deported” 19 Igbo destitute back to Anambra state a while ago.

In the last 80 years, the Igbo have been shown more generosity, accommodation, warmth and kindness and given more opportunities and leverage by the Yoruba than they have been offered by ANY other ethnic group in Nigeria. This is a historical fact. The Yoruba do not have any resentment for the Igbo and we have allowed them to do in our land and our territory what they have never allowed us to do in theirs. This has been so for 80 long years and it is something that we are very proud of. As I said elsewhere recently, to be accommodating and generous is a mark of civilisation and it comes easily to people that once had empires. The reason why many of our people take strong exception to the apparent outrage of the Igbo over this ”deportation” issue and the provocative comments of my friend and brother Chief Orji Uzor Kalu when he described Lagos as being a ”no man’s land” is because the Igbo have not only taken us for granted but they have also taken liberty for licence.



We cannot be expected to tolerate or accept that sort of irreverent and unintelligent rubbish simply because we still happen to believe in ”one Nigeria” and we will not sacrifice our rights or prostitute our principles on the alter of that ”one Nigeria”. Whether Nigeria is one or not, what is ours is ours and no one should test our resolve or make any mistake about that. ”One Nigeria” yes but no one should spit in our faces or covet our land, our treasure, our success, our history, our virtues, our being and our heritage and attempt to claim those for themselves simply because we took them in on a rainy day. It is that same attitude of ”we own everything”, ”we must have everything” and ”we must control everything” that the Igbo settlers manifested in the northern region in the late 50’s and early and mid-60’s that got them into so much trouble up there with the Hausa-Fulani and that eventually led to the terrible pogroms where almost one hundred thousand of them were killed in just a few days. Again it is that same attitude that they manifested in Lagos and the Western Region in the late ’30’s and the early and mid-40’s that alienated the Yoruba from them, that led to the establishment of the Action Group in April, 1951 and that resulted in the narrow defeat of Chief Nnamdi Azikiwe in the Western Regional elections of December, 1951. As a matter of fact they were the ones that FIRST introduced tribalism into southern politics in 1945 with the unsavoury comments of Mr. Charles Dadi Onyeama who was a member of the Central Legislative Council representing Enugu and who said at the Igbo State Union address that ”the domination of Nigeria and Africa by the Igbo is only a matter of time”.

That single comment, made in that explosive and historic speech, did more damage to southern Nigerian unity than any other in the entire history of our country and everything changed from that moment on. To make matters worse, in July 1948, Chief Nnamdi Azikiwe made his own openly tribal and incendiary speech, again at the Igbo State Union, in which he spoke about the ”god of the Igbo” eventually giving them the leadership of Nigeria and Africa. These careless and provocative words cost him dearly and put a nail in the coffin of the NCNC in the Western Region from that moment on. This was despite the fact that that same NCNC, which was easily the largest and most powerful political party in Nigeria at the time, had been founded and established by a great and illustrious son of the Yoruba by the name of Herbert Macauley. Macauley, like most of the Yoruba in his day, saw no tribe and he happily handed the leadership of the party over to Azikiwe, an Igbo man, in 1945 when he was on his dying bed. How much more can the Yoruba do than that when it comes to being blind to tribe? Can there be any greater evidence of our total lack of racial prejudice and tribal sentiments than that? If the NCNC had been founded and established by an Igbo man, would he have handed the whole thing over to a Yoruba on his death bed? I doubt it very much.



Again when northern military officers mutinied, effected their ”revenge coup” and went to kill the Igbo military Head of State, General Aguiyi-Ironsi on July 29th 1966 in the old Western Region, his host, the Yoruba Col. Fajuyi (who was military Governor of the Western Region at the time), insisted that they would have to kill him first before taking Aguiyi-Ironsi’s life and the northern officers (led by Major T.Y. Danjuma as he then was) promptly obliged him by slaughtering him before killing Aguiyi-Ironsi. How many Igbo know about that and how many times in our history have they made such sacrifices for the Yoruba? Would Aguiyi-Ironsi, or any other Igbo officer, have stood for Fajuyi, or any other Yoruba officer, and sacrificed his life for him in the same way that Fajuyi did had the roles been reversed? I doubt it very much. Yet instead of being grateful the Igbo continuously run us down, blame us for all their woes, envy our educational advantages and resent us deeply for our ability to excel in the professions and commerce. Unlike them, we were never traders but we were (and still are) industrialists and when it comes to the professions we were producing lawyers, doctors, accountants and university graduates at least three generations before they ever did. That is the bitter truth and they have been trying to catch up with us ever since. For example the first Yoruba lawyer Christopher Alexander Sapara Williams was called to the English Bar in 1879 whilst the first Igbo lawyer, Sir Louis Mbanefo, was called to the English bar in 1937. Again the first Yoruba medical practitioner, Dr. Nathaniel King, graduated in 1875 from the University of Edinburgh whilst the first Igbo medical practitioner, Dr. Akannu Ibiam, graduated from another Scottish University in 1935.

Yet despite all this and all that they have been through over the years and despite their terrible experiences in the civil war we are witnessing that same attitude of ”we must control all”, ”we must own all” and ”we must have all” rearing its ugly head again today when it comes to their attitude to the issue of the deportations from Lagos state and when you consider the comments of the Orji Kalu’s of this world about the Igbo supposedly ”owning Lagos” with the Yoruba and supposedly ”generating 55 per cent of the state’s revenue”. It is most insulting.




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Re: Ndigbo: Pride Goes Before A Fall by Alabo7978(m): 8:46am On Nov 26, 2021
BKayy:

I know my brother. I am just playing along.
I want to know if he could prove that Ubani is Ijaw without using Igbo language and he couldn't.

He ennlogated it to "ama" because he thought that with the little Bonny dialect he knows that "Ama" might mean something different in Igbo but due to ignorance, he didn't know it is basic Igbo that mean the same thing all round.

Mr Alabo7978, you are one hell of a confused but funny dude.
There are corrupt(easy) spellings in writing.
Even igbos spell Nnabu'ugo in a short simple form as nnabugo.
Ezife is spelled eze'ife
Even Enugu is rightly n'elu-ugwu (ontop a hill) or n'enu-uwgu
When the whites came, people who learnt how to write began corrupting the spellings, but ask the indigenes to pronounce it, you'll see how it sounds, nigha stop using spelling to play with intelligence, we all know this is true.
Even my grandmaternal home town is oromabiri in spelling, but it is actually oro-ama-biri.

Stop capping lies, you know the OKOLOMA written in that document is okolo-ama, but for English sake, it was written the other way. Ok let's assume the OKOLOMA written in that document is the former okoloama people slave camp in oyigbo, ndoki,
Are you trying to now say that document talked about ndoki and not Bonny?
Let's see how you answer this one now,
I'no mio'ogbo, ogbori.
Re: Ndigbo: Pride Goes Before A Fall by Alabo7978(m): 8:55am On Nov 26, 2021
BKayy:

Please Eastlink, Slayerforever, Ekealterego and Igboid let's ignore this drunk and have a reasonable conversion.

We will gain nothing by trying to educate a drunk who thinks they sold slaves but can give a name of one their slave traders. A drunk that think they had any edge over anybody but can't show where or prove that anybody saw them as significant during the colonial era.

Someone that rely on Wikipedia, Britannica and arguing what is literally written by Ajayi Crowther like a kid.

Someone that uses word from the language of the other nation he is dragging with to explain the bone of contestion.

Someone that cannot point out any civilisation by his people or any picture of anything depicting them until recent boat regatta of late 90s
Look at this clown, no clan men in the ijoh Ethnic group needed to go hunt for slaves, we pay your greedy brothers to get them for us, same way you can sell bkayy, same way he too can sell Igboid, same way he too can sell Ekealterego with the right pay.

Nigga go and research about the brass men, the Nembe men, the kula's
Even the lander brother wrote about them, even when king obi of aboh kidnapped them, it was king forday kulo MINGI IV AMAYANABO of Nembe, ogbolomabiri that ransomed him.
Read about William Fredrick Koko the king who waged war on the Brits when the Brits breached their agreement and tried to control resources.
Go and read about the akassa raid of 1889
Nigga go and update yourself. When your ancestors were holding their little gods and crying in a dark slave ships of the white men, king William Koko was bombarding the royal Niger company of Britain at Akassa.
Nigga don't try the resilience and brute of the proud ijo men.
Re: Ndigbo: Pride Goes Before A Fall by Alabo7978(m): 8:59am On Nov 26, 2021
BKayy:

Please Eastlink, Slayerforever, Ekealterego and Igboid let's ignore this drunk and have a reasonable conversion.

We will gain nothing by trying to educate a drunk who thinks they sold slaves but can give a name of one their slave traders. A drunk that think they had any edge over anybody but can't show where or prove that anybody saw them as significant during the colonial era.

Someone that rely on Wikipedia, Britannica and arguing what is literally written by Ajayi Crowther like a kid.

Someone that uses word from the language of the other nation he is dragging with to explain the bone of contestion.

Someone that cannot point out any civilisation by his people or any picture of anything depicting them until recent boat regatta of late 90s
I am asking you why there is an enormous population of the Igbo diaspora all over the carribean, Jamaica, Haiti, America and you're evading it?
Calling your fellow clowns to not engage me, lol.
I thought you don't run away, come and clear the fact.
Re: Ndigbo: Pride Goes Before A Fall by Eastlink(m): 9:43pm On Nov 26, 2021
Igboid:


Nwanne, it's been a while.
Good to have you back.
Yeah, got a managerial role at work. Too busy to come here. Facebook seems to be my vibe nowadays. grin

Thanks

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Re: Ndigbo: Pride Goes Before A Fall by Eastlink(m): 9:49pm On Nov 26, 2021
Alabo7978:

In simple terms, what this clown is trying to say up there is that professor dike and professor Jones are right and Professors Alagoa and fombo are wrong eh?

Lol. Igbo people.
See, I want you to go to Bonny yourself, and ask the Bonny people where they came from.
Many families trace their ancestry from kolokuma, many traces theirs also to Nembe.
Instead of you trying to tell smelling lies.
Oga the truth is the truth, that is why there is an enormous population of the Igbo diaspora in the south side of America, in the Caribbeans, in Jamaica, in Haiti. Stop lieng motherfucker.
You were SLAVES, big fat farming slaves and you wonder why Encyclopedia only brings forth the verifiable truth of professor Alagoa and Fombo?
Jesus Christ, what is there so hard to see?
Even in the Igbo landing, the stubborn slaves refused to work and they drowned.
The ijoh's sent them there.
Why you dey lie like this?
All this proves, the enormous igbos in allover carribean, Haiti and America you still dey lie like this!
Tufia!
Ekealterego, bkayy, Igboid and the rest of your cheap drug dealing land grabbing psychotic chameleons are fucking liars even the devil is shocked.
Very funny. Nairaland is just a faceless forum. Oga Bonny is like my 2nd home. My inlaw is from Hart's house. The only language my inlaw and his siblings speak is Igbo. Not now you clowns in INC/IYC are disturbing their facebook communities with your dead "Speak Ibani" intiative.
Infact years back we go there for their xmas boat regatta and Nwaotam festival. A Bonny grandad will easily welcome an Igbo to his home and chat with him in the native language than a militant from Bayelsa. They see you guys as good-for-nothing pirates disturbing their waterways.

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Re: Ndigbo: Pride Goes Before A Fall by Alabo7978(m): 10:10am On Nov 27, 2021
Eastlink:
Very funny. Nairaland is just a faceless forum. Oga Bonny is like my 2nd home. My inlaw is from Hart's house. The only language my inlaw and his siblings speak is Igbo. Not now you clowns in INC/IYC are disturbing their facebook communities with your dead "Speak Ibani" intiative.
Infact years back we go there for their xmas boat regatta and Nwaotam festival. A Bonny grandad will easily welcome an Igbo to his home and chat with him in the native language than a militant from Bayelsa. They see you guys as good-for-nothing pirates disturbing their waterways.

Did you see the bolded statement?
"A Bonny grandad will easily welcome an Igbo..."
Why would you make that statement if you and all your clown land grabbers say Bonny is Igbo.
You see confusion left right and center?
The lies keep opening like fowl nyash in the wind.
Same way Ekealterego lied Nembe was Igbo without even never seeing Nembe waterside even when an IGBO girl who served their came to correct him that they do not speak Igbo, funny thing is the mumu hasn't even been to Nembe before.
Shebi y'all kept denying you weren't slaves to the tribes, chiefs and the kings from ijoh nation abi? And I have been beging y'all to explain why there is an humongous diaspora of igbos in the Caribbean, Haiti, the south side of USA an the other parts of the Americas and not ijoh's and you people have avoided that question like Corona virus, your lieng abilities no fit uncover that one? Anyways that is by the way. Anyways, that is by the way.
Back to this other major clown Eastlink,
Nigga from your statement, it is purely evident you haven't been to Bonny even up to 5 times (hek,5 is too much) and because your relation is of Igbo origin, you assume the whole Bonny speaks Igbo.
It is also clear your other clowns who liked your comment haven't even seen Bonny sea let alone enter the island.
Igbo is a minority there.
The kings and high chiefs speak the Bonny language, and funny enough to you land grabbers, you don't even know the same Bonny language is what calabari speaks too, so by your confused lieng opinion, calabari is Igbo too? LMFAO. chai!
And like chinenyeN said; the argument entirely is based on stamina and lies, I do not have that stamina.
I'm done arguing with people who don't even know the Bonny but are blinded by their desperation to claim a route to the sea since they can not land grab the entire ijoh Ethnic nationality into their dot nation.
Bye Bye.

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Re: Ndigbo: Pride Goes Before A Fall by Eastlink(m): 9:59pm On Nov 27, 2021
Alabo7978:


[s]Did you see the bolded statement?
"A Bonny grandad will easily welcome an Igbo..."
Why would you make that statement if you and all your clown land grabbers say Bonny is Igbo.
You see confusion left right and center?
The lies keep opening like fowl nyash in the wind.
Same way Ekealterego lied Nembe was Igbo without even never seeing Nembe waterside even when an IGBO girl who served their came to correct him that they do not speak Igbo, funny thing is the mumu hasn't even been to Nembe before.
Shebi y'all kept denying you weren't slaves to the tribes, chiefs and the kings from ijoh nation abi? And I have been beging y'all to explain why there is an humongous diaspora of igbos in the Caribbean, Haiti, the south side of USA an the other parts of the Americas and not ijoh's and you people have avoided that question like Corona virus, your lieng abilities no fit uncover that one? Anyways that is by the way. Anyways, that is by the way.
Back to this other major clown Eastlink,
Nigga from your statement, it is purely evident you haven't been to Bonny even up to 5 times (hek,5 is too much) and because your relation is of Igbo origin, you assume the whole Bonny speaks Igbo.
It is also clear your other clowns who liked your comment haven't even seen Bonny sea let alone enter the island.
Igbo is a minority there.
The kings and high chiefs speak the Bonny language, and funny enough to you land grabbers, you don't even know the same Bonny language is what calabari speaks too, so by your confused lieng opinion, calabari is Igbo too? LMFAO. chai!
And like chinenyeN said; the argument entirely is based on stamina and lies, I do not have that stamina.
I'm done arguing with people who don't even know the Bonny but are blinded by their desperation to claim a route to the sea since they can not land grab the entire ijoh Ethnic nationality into their dot nation.
Bye Bye.[/s]
I made no mistake. Only clowns and land grabbers pick fault where there is none. A Bonny indigene sees his land as unique. Whether Ijaw land grabbers like it or not you can't enforce an alien identity on a people. Bonny people saw your plans by rejecting the Kalabari dialect spoken in Finima that you termed real “Ibani”. If you failed to impose an alien idenity on a people, how do you think you can succeed in your land grabbing attempts.
Only Ijaw landgrabbers will be dragging rights and kinship with people not related with them. Bonny language is unique and similar to that spoken in Opobo & Ndoki. You don't learn your mother tongue.

A Bonny man till date calls Opobo and Ndoki his siblings. But when it comes to Ijaws, they call them their name Ijaws. A Bonny man calls a Kalabari man Kalabari. He calls an Igbo man an Igbo.

While they see Ijaws as land grabbers and pirates disturbing their waters, they see the hinterland Igbos as relatives sharing same language. I expect you to get the message and wake up from your Ogogoro induced slumber because you will come back again to argue carelessly without reading.

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Re: Ndigbo: Pride Goes Before A Fall by Alabo7978(m): 10:08am On Nov 28, 2021
Eastlink:
I made no mistake. Only clowns and land grabbers pick fault where there is none. A Bonny indigene sees his land as unique. Whether Ijaw land grabbers like it or not you can't enforce an alien identity on a people. Bobby people saw your plans by rejecting the Kalabari dialect spoken in Finima that you termed real “Ibani”. If you failed to impose an alien idenity on a people, how do you think you can succeed in your land grabbing attempts.
Only Ijaw landgrabbers will be dragging rights and kinship with people not related with them. Bonny language is unique and similar to that spoken in Opobo & Ndoki. You don't learn your mother tongue.

A Bonny man till date calls Opobo and Ndoki his siblings. But when it comes to Ijaws, they call them their name Ijaws. A Bonny man calls a Kalabari man Kalabari. He calls an Igbo man an Igbo.

While they see Ijaws as land grabbers and pirates disturbing their waters, they see the hinterland Igbos as relatives sharing same language. I expect you to get the message and wake up from your Ogogoro induced slumber because you will come back again to argue carelessly without reading.
Oboy you are talking plenty.
Bonny is from the loins of ijo.
The bonnys and Nembe bare blood relations, and it is known till this day. Same reason when there were conflicts with opubo, they always call their brothers (the Nembeians) to come and help them.
kababari speaks kalabari, and the bonny people speak the same language kalabari speaks,(KING PEPPLE AND CROWTHER NOTED IT OVER 200 YEARS AGO)
and kalabari is an ijo language.
HERE IS AN EXCERPT FROM YOUR GOOD FRIEND Ekealterego, and do you now see how all these screenshots Talley with one another
Do you SEE IT CLEARLY YOU BLIND DUNCE?
I know you are shocked right now, depressed and dissapointed.
I agree I drink ogogoro, thank you, but don't come here with your imbecilic stupidity to mention me or reply me again on this if you don't declare king pepple and crowther ogogoro drunks too.

Re: Ndigbo: Pride Goes Before A Fall by Ekealterego: 10:41am On Nov 28, 2021
Alabo7978:

Oboy you are talking plenty.
Bonny is from the loins of ijo.
The bonnys and Nembe bare blood relations, and it is known till this day. Same reason when there were conflicts with opubo, they always call their brothers (the Nembeians) to come and help them.
kababari speaks kalabari, and the bonny people speak the same language kalabari speaks,(KING PEPPLE AND CROWTHER NOTED IT OVER 200 YEARS AGO)
and kalabari is an ijo language.
HERE IS AN EXCERPT FROM YOUR GOOD FRIEND Ekealterego, and do you now see how all these screenshots Talley with one another
Do you SEE IT CLEARLY YOU BLIND DUNCE?
I know you are shocked right now, depressed and dissapointed.
I agree I drink ogogoro, thank you, but don't come here with your imbecilic stupidity to mention me or reply me again on this if you don't declare king pepple and crowther ogogoro drunks too.
This drunk stop spamming my mentions with wikipedia. What Crowther said was OKOLOMA. It is written there. Your Bayelsa needs land, they are tired of swamps. Kiss the truth.
Re: Ndigbo: Pride Goes Before A Fall by Nobody: 3:01pm On Nov 28, 2021
Ekealterego:

This drunk stop spamming my mentions with wikipedia. [b]What Crowther said was OKOLOMA. [/b]It is written there. Your Bayelsa needs land, they are tired of swamps. Kiss the truth.
What crowther said is OKOLOMA abi, I agree.
Did you also miss the part where he said the language is what is also spoken in kalabari? LMFAO you most definitely didn't see it. Your other Igbo smoking clowns saw it and shut up, but your blundering nature didn't see it just as you provided us this powerful document and didn't see it. It is obvious You have jaundice, make sure you visit the nearest health center and treat your jaundice.
no matter how you try to meander, you can't outrun the truth which is like the sun.

Re: Ndigbo: Pride Goes Before A Fall by Eastlandx: 9:50am On Dec 10, 2021
ChinenyeN:
Alabo7978, I’m surprised you’re still going at it with them for this long. This back and forth is ahistorical. And at the end of the day, it is a contest of stamina not actual traditions and history. Igbo propagandists don’t care about actual oral history and traditions and they certainly don’t care about what you may have to say. They will outlast you in this argument out of sheer hubris and call it a win for themselves.
You just couldn't hide who you are anymore.
You Ijaws are getting choked.
Re: Ndigbo: Pride Goes Before A Fall by Igboid: 10:33am On Dec 10, 2021
Eastlandx:
You just couldn't hide who you are anymore.
You Ijaws are getting choked.

The he-she lost her veneer easily.
lol those years of masquerading lost just like that. Hehe!

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Re: Ndigbo: Pride Goes Before A Fall by Eastlandx: 11:20am On Dec 10, 2021
Igboid:


The he-she lost her veneer easily.
lol those years of masquerading lost just like that. Hehe!
She got really choked with the fact that her people were getting beating and their lies destroyed,I can understand why she lost it and exposed herself.
Re: Ndigbo: Pride Goes Before A Fall by Igboid: 11:23am On Dec 10, 2021
Eastlandx:

She got really choked with the fact that her people were getting beating and their lies destroyed,I can understand why she lost it and exposed herself.

Nothing stays hidden under the sun forever.
Ngwa and Alayi masquerade in Poto poto! grin
Re: Ndigbo: Pride Goes Before A Fall by ChinenyeN(m): 2:55pm On Dec 10, 2021
Eastlandx:
You just couldn't hide who you are anymore.
You Ijaws are getting choked.

The fans continue to roll in. Do you know how icons, myths and gods are created? Their names are always in someone else mouth. For a long time I thought I should be arguing with you all, because I thought you all didn’t know better. But now I know that I should have seen the signs all along. You simply won’t leave me alone, because your obsession with me is too much for you all to contain. You MUST let it out. I see that now. I no longer need take you all seriously. You all already do a good enough job of taking your own selves too seriously. No need for me to intrude on that front.

Eke lei. I have some weird fans, but it’s okay.
Re: Ndigbo: Pride Goes Before A Fall by IDENNAA(m): 3:09pm On Dec 10, 2021
Eastlandx:
You just couldn't hide who you are anymore.
You Ijaws are getting choked.


Ignore him. He is an attention seeker, and no he is not Ijaw. He is butthurt because we used to mock and bully him here....lol. I used to mock and denigrate his ngwa people as culturally inferior, though , I don't do those things anymore. Odumchi and other also used to tease him for writing gibberish nobody could read. Chinenye Igbo hate started on Nairaland and now he is an Ijaw ally.

The only tradition of his people he remembered is egwu mgbede....lmao
Re: Ndigbo: Pride Goes Before A Fall by IDENNAA(m): 3:12pm On Dec 10, 2021
ChinenyeN:


The fans continue to roll in. Do you know how icons, myths and gods are created? Their names are always in someone else mouth. For a long time I thought I should be arguing with you all, because I thought you all didn’t know better. But now I know that I should have seen the signs all along. You simply won’t leave me alone, because your obsession with me is too much for you all to contain. You MUST let it out. I see that now. I no longer need take you all seriously. You all already do a good enough job of taking your own selves too seriously. No need for me to intrude on that front.

Eke lei. I have some weird fans, but it’s okay.


Oga , keep quiet , for once! You know deep down in your heart nobody is obsessed about you. You think too much of yourself....gbafuo, biko....lol
Re: Ndigbo: Pride Goes Before A Fall by ChinenyeN(m): 3:25pm On Dec 10, 2021
IDENNAA:
Oga , keep quiet , for once! You know deep down in your heart nobody is obsessed about you. You think too much of yourself....gbafuo, biko....lol
Ahn ahn. I ga-ekwe ka m gwuritu egwu with these people? O bughi ihe niile a na-e-take seriously kwa n’uwa a.

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