GreatBoss:


Language can jam.
And nothing else.

Hausa and Yoruba have so much similar words,

Eg Sugarcane,Matchet, Pig, Onion etc
Are being called same thing in Hausa and Yoruba.
That doesn't make them one people.

Ijaw and Yoruba have many same words too.

E.g Padlock, Cat, the art of Seeing, etc.

Ekealterego:

It shows the difference in intellect.

9cloud Here is an account, This is by Captain John Adams (1823). He had a similar account with Crow, detailed but an earlier report on his Bonny exploration.

SaintBishop:
You can't even spell ordinary because,be gone and stay away from my mention, your iQ is too low for me.
And btw,the Elemes are not ijaws neither are they igbos

GreatBoss:
All ethnic groups hate Ibo.

Alabo7978:

Don't believe Alagoa, believe PEPPLE and crowther who CLEARLY SHOWED YOU THE DIFFERENCE.

9Pluto:


Crowther's account DIDN'T favour him. It is like Ngwa people calling Bende people Umu Ogbo, while Bende people refer to themselves as Alai, item etc Look at it carefully, including the language dictionary @Ekealterego posted from the same book. The Bonny words(number 127 on the list) as translated there were PURE igbo words.

Is none of you not surprised that in both Crow and Crowther's accounts, there hasn't been a single mention of Ijaw(the so called natives) in all those records. Perhaps they were so invisible the authors didn't take note of them.

Alabo7978:

He didn't say so, your white man said so.

And by the way, the only reason ndoki even have some ties with Bonny was because Asimini married off his granddaughter Kambasa off to an ndoki man to Foster trade relations with the hinterlands, Kambasa didn't like that place, and once her father died she returned back to okolo-ama leaving her husband behind.
Your white man didn't even mention that because he didn't know how to communicate with the locals in the dialect so he just gather few facts to HURRIEDLY arrange a report or thesis.
If not for Kambasa marrying an ndoki man, the few IBO freemen wouldn't have been free.

GreatBoss:


Yeah.
They are all ijaw people.
Ndoki leaders, have met with my boss General Ditari saying they are Ibani-Ijaw people and saying since they share borders with other Ijaws, they want to come with Ijaw Republic.
They brought map of Aminadokiari (Ndoki) land too.
The new Central Ijaw dialect being worked on in preparation for Ijaw Republic will set all things right for all Ijaws.

God our Creator be my witness on all these things..

ThickSharon123:


No, that's not true. Igbos are liberal, there are two people who hate them only in Nigeria, the Draconian monarchial Hausa and Yoruba, and the land grabbing and ethnic identity cleansing Ijaws. These two are Nigeria's problem

Igbos don't want to give you heads way, I'm sure as soon as you're done with the Igbo lands, you'll move to Akwa Ibom and strip them off their identity, then move to Yoruba land and strip them off their identity too.
You people behave like the Fulani so much, I can see the correlation.

Biafrarep:


It didn't actually start today, foreigners as far back as the 1700's called them "teeth filling cannibals" who lived almost entirely on their boats, terrorising neighboring communities and market people. With violent robbery and murders as their way of life!

They have continued to exhibit such tendencies even till today!!

SlayerForever:



You see that Brass video it's not talked about enough. I will try to change that fact today.

Ekealterego:

You are probably right. A section of Eleme people are from Arochukwu. Eleme is a mixture of Ogoni and Arochukwu, that is why they do not accept the Ogoni tag.
As we stated earlier, their old name was "Mbolli" or "Mba Oli". This was what Aros call them and how their name was represented in history books. It is possible that the guy you were talking about is from the Aro side of Eleme.
Igboid, Bkayy, Slayerforever check this invite. It is public so no stress.

OfoIgbo:



That Brass language can be understood by every Igbo person


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=onVPhIp6soo

Ekealterego:
Igboid, Slayerforever, remember my first theory on Okirika and Wakirike? As in Wa Krike? from the word, "Creek"? Wa creek, "child of the Creek".
This is an appendix from Baikie

BKayy:

I remember that incidence.
Maybe you should post the video for those that are reading this but didn't know or can't recall.

The Youths were rapping in Igbo while destroying the dudes Palace.

OfoIgbo:


At no point in that snippet did PEPPLE claim he is not Igbo. So your argument falls flat by the way.

At no point was OKOLOMA referred to as Ijaw

Meanwhile, Crowther's account are many decades after a more reliable account from Captain Crow

Ubani and Kalabari have Igbo lineages ruling over those places, so they could be speaking the Ndoki dialect of Igbo around the time that Crowther writing

How come the Bonny numbering system written down by earlier writers showcased core Igbo numbering system?

Ekealterego:

Okoloma existed before any human dwelled in Bonny. Stop your fables. OKoloma is as old as Ndoki.
Another fable, Tales by the moonlight. Where is this written? We come with fact, you come with myths with no receipts.
See the difference.
Slayerforever, Eastlink (see your Alinsaw Egbema), Newage98, see your Ekpahia (Ekpeye), Bkayy, Igboid.
Let us make reference to a colonial map of Igboland.

You can see Ubani at the bottom

Ekealterego:

Stop lying and bring evidence. If everyone was written as Igbos, how come all the samples of language evidence were separated by Clarke in 1800s
Slayerforever, see the language inside Bonny. Are these not Igbo language? 9pluto.

Ekealterego:

Stop lying and bring evidence. If everyone was written as Igbos, how come all the samples of language evidence were separated by Clarke in 1800s
Slayerforever, see the language inside Bonny. Are these not Igbo language? 9pluto.

OfoIgbo:



That Brass language can be understood by every Igbo person


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=onVPhIp6soo

OfoIgbo:


E be like say meth don reach Bayelsa

9Pluto:


Are you sure this is Nembe in Bayelsa State or Neni in Anambra State? Please, we would need some from Nembe or someone who lives in Nembe to confirm if this clip in from Nembe and if those guys are truly Nembe youths.

If it is certified they are Nembe youths, then we seriously need to question who are the Ijaws? The history/origin, when the first appeared in history, there language etc

If those are truly Nembe youths, then recent Nigerian historIans are a disgrace or I daresay we do not have historians in Nigeria.

I can imagine the damages or propaganda that would have been peddled pre-Internet age.

9Pluto:


Are you sure this is Nembe in Bayelsa State or Neni in Anambra State? Please, we would need some from Nembe or someone who lives in Nembe to confirm if this clip in from Nembe and if those guys are truly Nembe youths.

If it is certified they are Nembe youths, then we seriously need to question who are the Ijaws? The history/origin, when the first appeared in history, there language etc

If those are truly Nembe youths, then recent Nigerian historIans are a disgrace or I daresay we do not have historians in Nigeria.

I can imagine the damages or propaganda that would have been peddled pre-Internet age.

GreatBoss:


The map the Aminadokiari (Ndoki) leaders brought to the Ijaw Republic Liberation Movement Militant Forces.

SlayerForever:



God bless you for this link. How can we bring this into greater circulation. This is damning evidence.

GreatBoss:
Igboid, Slayerforever, Bkayy, mancoconut.
Biafrarep, idiko, Pass11, AlexBells, Afonjaheadhunts, all una claims and lies write up made concerning Ijaw Nation end on Nairaland.
Travel there and claim them physical.

Igboid:


I just noticed that Nkissi, Amitsh and Oss in the list were not listed as Igbo ,but their words are Igbo words.
Biko any guess on who the Nkissi and Oss were? I'm guessing that Amitsh is Amichi (in Nnewi South of Anambra today).


The group recorded as Fernandian( I guess these ones came from the Island of Fernando Po to Bonny. They called man "Bobi" could this be where the Ph slangs "Abobi" for man came from?

9Pluto:


Are you sure this is Nembe in Bayelsa State or Neni in Anambra State? Please, we would need someone from Nembe or someone who lives in Nembe to confirm if this clip in from Nembe and if those guys are truly Nembe youths.

If it is certified they are Nembe youths, then we seriously need to question who are the Ijaws?

Interesting questions on quora would include?
Who are the ijaws? Their history/origin, when did they first appeared in history, most importantly, what is there language? etc

If those are truly Nembe youths, then recent Nigerian historIans are a disgrace or I daresay we do not have historians in Nigeria.

I can imagine the damages or propaganda that would have been peddled pre-Internet age.

Ekealterego:

You are correct. The book is free on Google books too as I can see.

Here are the excerpts