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Is Jesus Historical? What Do The Romans Say About Him? by Nobody: 3:07am On Dec 23, 2021
Transcript 00:00 hey noble ones on this video i'd like to 00:02 talk about the historical figure of 00:03 jesus of nazareth 00:05 as reported by the ancient romans or as 00:07 his name was probably pronounced in his 00:09 language 00:13 [Music] 00:14 yeshua 00:17 [Music] 00:22 some people trying to prove he existed 00:23 at all costs accepting 00:25 all evidence a priori others tried to 00:27 prove he didn't 00:28 refuting all evidence without even 00:30 looking into the actual context this is 00:32 a critical historical investigation 00:34 so i will try to be as unbiased as 00:36 possible even though implicit biased 00:38 unconscious bias 00:39 is inevitable to a certain extent i'll 00:42 do my best to be as fair as possible in 00:44 my evaluation of the ancient sources 00:45 some of which we will read in the 00:47 original latin and draw a picture 00:49 of how solid of a historical figure 00:51 jesus actually was 00:52 when examining what the ancients said 00:55 the video will not be about doctrine or 00:57 beliefs as i would never use my platform 00:59 as a way to push 01:00 my personal beliefs onto my subscribers 01:02 i respect you 01:03 and your personal beliefs at the end 01:05 having examined all evidence fairly i 01:07 will draw my conclusions but feel free 01:08 to let me know 01:09 if you agree or disagree in the comments 01:11 below so 01:12 what sources are we going to use on this 01:14 video we'll examine mostly 01:16 non-christian evidence with just a 01:18 couple of exceptions publius cornelius 01:20 takitus one of the greatest roman 01:22 historians 01:22 and senator of rome gaius suetonius 01:26 tranquilos 01:27 roman historian early imperialera titus 01:30 flavius josefus romano jewish historian 01:33 born in jerusalem 01:34 at the time part of roman judea gallius 01:37 plinius 01:38 secundus better known as pliny the 01:41 younger roman magistrate 01:42 lawyer and author emperor trajanus 01:46 emperor adrianus for non-roman authors 01:49 we're going to read from 01:51 luciano samosata a syrian satirist and 01:54 rituation 01:54 and mara ba serapion stoic philosopher 01:58 from the roman province of syria 02:00 now we're going to jump right into the 02:02 historical mentions and 02:03 at the end of each mention i will give 02:05 you a sort of validation so i'll tell 02:07 you 02:08 how much validity that mention has 02:11 but in order to fully understand and 02:13 appreciate these mentions 02:14 there are two things that i need to talk 02:16 about and i'll do that in the second 02:18 part of the video so make sure to watch 02:19 until the end 02:20 because they're very important first the 02:22 actual 02:23 historically most plausible date of 02:26 birth of jesus of nazareth which 02:28 is now most historians agree that it's 02:31 not going to be 1ad 02:32 it's a different date and i'll tell you 02:34 about it i'll justify it historically 02:36 and secondly the most probable date of 02:39 his actual crucifixion 02:40 and these are important for the 02:42 following reason usually people who try 02:44 to disprove the existence of historical 02:45 jesus use 02:46 these two points of argument the source 02:48 materials that we are going to examine 02:50 are not contemporary 02:52 to his life if such an important man was 02:54 to be around 02:55 roman authorities would have definitely 02:58 said much more about him 02:59 both statements are actually very 03:01 interesting but ultimately hold no water 03:04 and i'll justify this because of two 03:05 reasons first is the actual 03:08 contextualization of when jesus existed 03:11 which is very important 03:12 but secondly it's also the real 03:14 historically accurate perspective 03:16 of roman central power so again make 03:19 sure to watch until the end 03:24 first we're going to use the surviving 03:26 portions of tactus two major works 03:28 the analysis and the historia where he 03:30 speaks about the reigns of several 03:32 emperors 03:32 such as tiberius claudius nero basically 03:35 after the death of the first emperor 03:37 augustus in 1480 03:39 all the way up to 70d which is roughly 03:41 speaking the date of the first 03:43 jewish roman war which dates from 66 to 03:46 73 03:47 it's in his final work and also of 03:49 imperial rome book 15 chapter 44 03:51 that tactus talks about christ he talks 03:54 about his execution 03:56 by pontius pilatos who was the fifth 03:58 governor of judea 03:59 and the emperor tiberius and the 04:02 presence and existence of 04:03 early christians in rome in this book 04:06 specifically he is 04:07 chronicling the burning of rome which 04:10 happened in 64 a.d 04:12 said non-opera 04:16 [Music] 04:22 but all human efforts all the lavish 04:24 gifts of the emperor 04:25 and the propitiation of the gods did not 04:28 banish the sinister belief 04:30 that the conflagration was the result of 04:32 an oda 04:33 ergo abolendo rumor subdivides 04:36 etc 04:44 consequently to get rid of the report 04:47 nero fastened the guilt and inflicted 04:49 the most exquisite tortures 04:51 on a class hated for their abominations 04:54 called christians by the populace 04:56 outdoor nominees cristos tibero imperial 05:00 procurator 05:06 represents 05:08 superstition 05:21 from whom the name had its origin 05:23 suffered the extreme penalty during the 05:25 reign of tiberius 05:26 at the hand of one of our procurators 05:29 and a most mischievous superstition 05:32 thus checked for the moment again broke 05:34 out not only in judea 05:36 the first source of the evil but even in 05:38 rome 05:39 as a roman historian takitu said no 05:41 christian bias in fact he had no 05:43 sympathy for the christians he speaks 05:44 about their abominations 05:46 and he speaks of christianity as the 05:48 origin of evil 05:49 and when he uses the expression 05:50 abomination is actually referring 05:51 specifically to 05:52 the early christians believing that they 05:54 were partaking at least some early 05:55 christians believing that they were 05:56 partaking 05:57 of the literal body and blood of christ 05:59 every time they were taking the 06:00 sacrament which 06:01 sounded as an abomination to roman ears 06:04 so what takitus is telling us here is 06:05 that jesus was executed by the governor 06:07 of judea 06:08 pontius pilate for crimes against the 06:10 state and a religious movement of his 06:12 followers 06:13 sprang up in his wake remember this is 06:16 not seen 06:17 by roman authorities as a positive thing 06:19 it's seen as a negative thing 06:21 we could in fact refer to this as the 06:23 first documented confrontation between 06:25 early christians and roman authorities 06:28 also please notice that takitus never 06:30 accused 06:30 nero of being the one who burnt rome 06:33 such accusation 06:34 will come from cassio's deal in the 06:35 third century but what takitus is saying 06:37 is that nero in his opinion was using 06:40 christians 06:41 as scapegoats from this statement we 06:43 learn that there were a sizable number 06:45 of christians in rome at the time 06:46 that it was possible to distinguish 06:48 between christians and jews in rome 06:50 and that at the time pagans made a 06:52 connection between christianity in rome 06:54 and its origins in roma judea okay so 06:57 let's discuss the validity 06:58 most scholars consider takitu's 07:00 explanation and mentions of jesus and 07:03 his execution 07:04 to be of high historical value and it is 07:06 generally considered to be an 07:08 authentic independent roman source to 07:11 add to that you have to remember that

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Re: Is Jesus Historical? What Do The Romans Say About Him? by Nobody: 3:09am On Dec 23, 2021
07:12 when takitus wrote history 07:14 if he considered the information that he 07:17 was presented to be 07:18 not entirely reliable such as hearsay or 07:21 something that he hadn't 07:22 witnessed himself he would normally add 07:25 indications for the readers no such 07:27 indication has been added 07:29 to this specific mention as a negative 07:32 point however i do need to mention the 07:33 fact that no original manuscript from 07:35 takitus is preserved 07:37 to this day and the majority of what we 07:39 have are copies 07:41 we should say later copies some of which 07:43 were made by christian monks 07:45 now where the contents of this message 07:48 changed or altered in any way by the 07:50 medieval monks that were copying this 07:53 manuscript into their own 07:54 abbey well of course we can't know for 07:56 sure most historians agree that the 07:59 message is authentic 08:00 however i do need to point out that a 08:02 spelling correction 08:04 did happen some sort of alteration did 08:07 occur 08:07 in fact at the time two kinds of 08:09 spellings and two kinds of words to 08:11 speak about christians were used 08:13 cristianos with an i and christianos 08:16 with an e the medieval version instead 08:19 will always be cristianos with an eye 08:22 and we notice that there is a space in 08:24 one of the two manuscripts between the i 08:27 used 08:27 for cree and the stianus and that is 08:30 because originally probably was written 08:32 with an e 08:32 which would have filled the gap but that 08:34 was removed as a form of correction 08:37 by monks so yes some alteration happened 08:40 but most scholars 08:41 believe that the message is authentic 08:44 [Music] 08:48 now let's talk about the very famous 08:51 testimonial written by 08:52 joseph who's a very famous romano jewish 08:55 historian but what do we mean by romano 08:58 jewish 08:58 you see josephus was born in jerusalem 09:00 and he was the leader 09:02 of the forces in galilee that fought 09:04 against the romans so initially he was 09:06 an 09:07 enemy to rome the thing is that when he 09:09 faced the 09:10 legions of westpacianus in 67 he was 09:13 defeated and captured 09:15 now the only reason why was pasianos or 09:17 was paisan didn't kill him 09:19 is because supposedly josephus had 09:21 prophesied 09:22 that westpacianos would become emperor 09:25 and in fact 09:25 two years later in 1869 westpacianus 09:28 does become the emperor of rome and he 09:31 likes josephus because of this 09:33 so he keeps him first as a slave then as 09:36 a translator and eventually 09:37 when joseph was fully defected to the 09:39 roman side he is granted roman 09:41 citizenship 09:42 which is what we mean by saying that he 09:44 was romano 09:45 jewish he even served as the translator 09:48 when titus was pastiano's son 09:50 led the siege of jerusalem in a.d 70. he 09:54 wrote 09:54 the antiquities of the jews in which he 09:57 mentions 09:57 several biblical figures including jesus 10:00 christ john the baptist james 10:01 the brother of jesus pontius pilate the 10:03 sadducees the high priests 10:05 and the pharisees so all of this can be 10:07 cross-referenced with the gospel 10:09 at this time there was a wise man who 10:10 was called jesus and his conduct was so 10:13 good and it was known to be virtuous 10:15 and many people from among the jews and 10:17 other nations became his disciples 10:19 pilate condemned him to be crucified and 10:21 to die and those who had become his 10:23 disciples did not abandon 10:25 his discipleship they reported that he 10:27 had appeared to them three days after 10:29 his crucifixion and that he was alive 10:31 accordingly he was perhaps the messiah 10:33 concerning whom the prophets have 10:35 recounted wonders now of course this is 10:38 a very powerful testimony but 10:40 we are not 100 sure if we can fully 10:43 trust it 10:44 most of the testimony has very strong 10:46 historical validity 10:47 but a jewish man who had defected into 10:50 rome 10:50 calling jesus the messiah and 10:53 specifically speaking about the 10:54 resurrection after three days 10:56 are thought to be maybe christian

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Re: Is Jesus Historical? What Do The Romans Say About Him? by Nobody: 3:09am On Dec 23, 2021
10:59 alterations 11:00 it is however widely accepted that this 11:03 testimony 11:04 originally consisted of an authentic 11:06 nucleus with a reference to the 11:08 execution of jesus by pilate 11:10 which was then the subject to 11:12 interpolation now this is a very 11:14 big discussion and i can't really jump 11:16 into it in details because 11:18 just from 1937 to the 1980s 87 11:21 articles have been written about the 11:23 validity of this and there are people 11:24 taking their 11:25 stance in all sorts of positions people 11:28 that say it's completely useless people 11:29 that say it's 11:30 100 correct and people that take a sort 11:32 of middle ground 11:33 i take the middle ground i believe that 11:36 the nucleus the core speaking about 11:38 jesus and his execution 11:40 are correct but it is possible that both 11:41 the resurrection and 11:43 the mention of the word messiah were 11:45 added it is also interesting to see that 11:47 there is another writer a christian 11:49 writer the very first one to speak about 11:51 this testimony specifically and its 11:53 oregon and hear what he says 11:54 origin said of josephus although not far 11:57 from the truth 11:57 he did not believe in jesus as the 11:59 christ an affirmation 12:01 that was repeated in his contra calcium 12:03 because of this i believe that it's 12:05 highly 12:05 likely that he didn't actually mention 12:08 jesus christ and the crucifixion but it 12:10 didn't mention the other two things 12:11 otherwise 12:12 this christian author wouldn't have even 12:14 have any any reason to complain 12:21 let's now read the words of magistrate 12:23 pliny the younger who was the governor 12:25 of bethenia 12:26 in asia minor the christians were in the 12:28 habit of meeting on a certain fixed day 12:30 before it was light 12:32 when they sang in alternate versus a 12:34 hymn to christ 12:35 as to a god and bound themselves by a 12:37 solemn health 12:38 not to any wicked deeds but never to 12:40 commit any fraud 12:41 theft or adultery never to falsify their 12:44 word nor deny a trust 12:46 when they should be called upon to 12:47 deliver it up after which it was their 12:49 custom to separate 12:51 and then reassemble to partake of food 12:53 the food of an ordinary and innocent 12:55 kind 12:55 later pliny writes a letter to emperor 12:58 trajanus 12:59 and he specifically says that the 13:01 teachings of the christians were 13:03 open quotes excessive and contagious 13:07 superstition close quotes he also says 13:10 that christians attracted people 13:12 of all social classes of all genders and 13:15 of all ages 13:16 now let's read the reply from emperor 13:18 trajanos the method you have pursued 13:20 my diapleni in sifting the cases of 13:23 those denounced to you as 13:25 christians is extremely proper it is not 13:28 possible to lay down any general rule 13:30 which can be applied as the fixed 13:32 standard in all cases of this nature 13:34 no search should be made for these 13:36 people when they are denounced and found 13:38 guilty they must be punished 13:40 with the restriction however that when 13:42 the party denies himself to be a 13:44 christian 13:45 and shall give proof that he he's not 13:47 that is by adoring 13:49 our gods he shall be pardoned on the 13:51 ground of repentance 13:52 even though he may have formally 13:54 incurred suspicion 13:56 informations without the accuser's name 13:58 subscribed must not be admitted in 14:00 evidence against anyone as it is 14:02 introducing a very dangerous precedent 14:04 and by no 14:05 means agreeable to the spirit of the age 14:09 now this is extremely significant first 14:11 and foremost 14:12 what does the emperor mean when he says 14:15 the method 14:16 you have pursued my diapini in sifting 14:18 the cases of those denounced to you as 14:20 christians is extremely proper 14:21 well you have to understand one thing 14:23 about both pliny the younger 14:24 and takitus both of them had the duty of 14:28 supervising trials of christians which 14:31 is precisely why they documented it 14:33 so in this letter emperor trajanus is 14:36 saying yes very good you're doing well 14:38 they need to be stopped but even more 14:41 interesting 14:42 is what he says about his gods and this 14:44 really gives us the first perspective 14:46 as the first part of those two 14:48 introductory lines that i mentioned at 14:50 the beginning 14:50 the perspective of the romans now this 14:52 is the religious perspective of the 14:54 romans 14:54 when people tell you why did the romans 14:57 do 14:58 something if there was a man preaching 15:00 in judea 15:01 such as jesus why don't we have much 15:04 more information about it well the 15:06 answer is as 15:07 you can read from the letter the words 15:09 of the emperor himself from the point of 15:11 view of the romans 15:12 religious freedom was something that it 15:14 was always granted 15:16 in other words the romans didn't care 15:18 what god you were 15:20 worshiping in your lands once it became 15:22 a roman province 15:23 all they wanted to make sure is that it 15:25 remained under roman control 15:26 but a certain degree of religious 15:28 freedom was always given 15:30 so we shouldn't imagine that to the 15:31 romans it really meant much 15:33 that a preacher was going around 15:35 preaching some doctrine that they 15:37 thought was 15:37 strange to the point of view of the 15:39 romans you can worship whatever god you 15:42 want 15:42 we beat you in battles our gods are more 15:45 powerful than yours 15:46 and that's all that matters so why does 15:48 the situation 15:49 change now but the reason why the 15:51 situation changes now 15:52 is because we're talking about 15:54 christians in rome 15:56 so it is only when these followers of 15:58 christ 15:59 enter rome and greece so very very close 16:02 provinces to rome 16:03 that the roman authorities the central 16:06 power of rome 16:07 starts to be actually interested in 16:09 christians as far as jesus was 16:11 ministering in judea they did not 16:14 care even the miracles if you think 16:16 about it even if miracles were reported 16:18 to roman emperors of the roman 16:20 authorities they would have been 16:21 shrugged off either 16:23 as superstition as we can see in fact 16:25 the word is used but even if they were 16:27 to believe it 16:28 this is how it would go away kaiser 16:31 there is a man who is performing 16:32 miracles 16:33 in judea a magician in judea what sort 16:37 of miracles 16:38 he can raise people from the dead what 16:40 people who did he raise 16:41 oh a friend of his by the name of 16:43 lazarus is that it 16:45 he raised a man okay good for him 16:48 the point i'm trying to draw here is the 16:50 only miracle that could have really 16:52 interested roman authorities could have 16:54 been sir this man made an entire legion 16:57 disappear 16:58 or sir this man can multiply swords and 17:00 armor 17:01 in other words from the perspective of 17:03 the ancient roman 17:04 if it doesn't directly threaten 17:07 roman military control it does not 17:11 matter from a roman point of view jesus 17:13 birth means 17:14 absolutely nothing because judea was 17:17 considered to be a 17:18 backwater province in the fringes of the 17:20 empire and even 17:22 his ministry which if we are to believe 17:24 the christian reports 17:25 was only three years wouldn't have 17:27 mattered much to the romans 17:29 which explains why if they heard of him 17:31 they would have called him either a 17:32 magician 17:33 a superstitious wise man which is 17:35 exactly what we are finding in the 17:36 letters it only starts mattering for the 17:38 romans 17:39 once the followers grow in numbers and 17:41 enter 17:42 rome as far as the validity of pliny the 17:45 youngest testimony 17:46 it's there it's complete general 17:48 consensus that it's authentic 17:50 also because we have the letter of 17:52 response of emperor trajan which again 17:54 speaks about the same thing so the two 17:56 things can be double checked and 17:57 cross-referenced 17:58 it's authentic 18:02 [Music] 18:04 now let's talk about the words of gaius 18:06 suetonius tranquilas 18:08 who was the chief secretary of emperor 18:10 adrianos 18:11 he says because the jews of rome caused 18:14 continuous disturbances 18:16 at the instigation of christus claudius 18:19 expelled them 18:20 from the city after the great fire of 18:22 rome during nero's reign 18:24 punishments were also inflicted on the 18:26 christians 18:27 a sect professing a new and mischievous 18:29 religious 18:30 belief again notice both the negative 18:33 approach and negative point of view of 18:35 these mentions towards the christians 18:37 but most importantly 18:38 of historical significance the mention 18:40 of the 18:41 instigator meaning crestus which is 18:44 again a different spelling of christos 18:46 both been a period for the time now the 18:49 validity of these testimonies at the 18:51 moment is 18:52 not questioned in the academia and that 18:54 is because you have to remember that the 18:55 romans were particularly meticulous when 18:58 it came to both 18:59 records and these are all period 19:01 [Music] 19:07 now let's talk about non-roman 19:08 mentionings and one of the most 19:09 interesting ones 19:10 is a letter written by mara bar serapion 19:14 of syria 19:15 to give you a little bit of context at 19:16 this time the writer was in prison 19:18 and he was re writing this letter to his 19:20 son he says 19:21 what advantage did the athenians gain 19:24 from putting socrates to death 19:25 feminine plague came upon them as a 19:27 judgement for their crime what advantage 19:29 did men of samos gain 19:31 from burying pythagoras in a moment 19:33 their land was covered with sand 19:35 what advantage did the jews gain from 19:37 executing their wise king 19:39 it was just after that that their 19:40 kingdom was abolished 19:42 god justly avenged these three wise men 19:45 the athenians died of hunger the samyans 19:47 were overwhelmed by the sea 19:49 the jews ruined and driven from their 19:52 land 19:52 live in complete dispersion but socrates 19:55 did not die for good 19:56 he lived on in the teachings of plato 19:58 pythagoras did not die for good he lived 20:00 on 20:00 in the statue of hera nor did the wise 20:02 king die for good 20:04 he lived on in the teaching which he had 20:06 given now even though on this letter 20:08 there is no mention of the word 20:09 christos or the name christos or should 20:11 we say title 20:12 messiah it is still interesting because 20:14 he does call 20:15 him the king of the jews which we know 20:17 was not only an 20:18 expression that was not used by the 20:21 christians but it was an 20:22 expression that is linked to what was 20:24 written on top of the cross of jesus 20:26 with the letters in re which translate 20:29 jesus nazarenus rex judae jesus of 20:33 nazareth king 20:34 of the jews 20:35 [Music] 20:40 but again beyond rome we have got the 20:42 satirist tuition of samosata 20:44 in his writing is actually mocking the 20:47 christians then here is what he says 20:49 the christians you know worship a man to 20:51 this day the distinguished personage who 20:54 introduced the novel right 20:55 and was crucified on that account you 20:58 see these misguided creatures start with 21:00 the general conviction that they 21:02 are immortal for all time which explains 21:05 the contempt of death and voluntary 21:06 self-devotion which are so common 21:08 among them and then it was impressed on 21:11 them by their original law giver 21:12 that they are all brothers from the 21:15 moment they are converted and deny the 21:17 gods of greece 21:18 and worship the crucified sage and live 21:21 after 21:21 his laws all this they take white on 21:23 faith with the result that they despise 21:26 all worldly goods alike regarding them 21:28 merely as common property 21:30 now again this is one of those non-roman 21:32 mentions that 21:34 do not use the term christ specifically 21:37 but they do mention the crucifixion they 21:39 call him a sage and a law giver 21:41 and also further on in his writing 21:43 lucian mentions that the christians were 21:45 using 21:46 sacred writings but we still have more 21:48 in the jewish talmud 21:50 we have a mention of the crucifixion of 21:52 christ which is again 21:53 a non-christian mention it reads on the 21:56 eve 21:57 of the passover yeshu was hanged for 40 22:00 days before the execution took place 22:02 a herald went forth and cried he's going 22:04 force to be stoned because he has 22:06 practiced sorcery 22:07 and enticed israel to apostasy anyone 22:10 who can say anything in his favor 22:12 let him come forward and plead on his 22:14 behalf but since nothing was brought 22:16 forward in its favor 22:17 he was hanged on the eve of the passover 22:20 this was written between 22:21 70 and 200 a.d we already know that the 22:24 majority of historians scholars and 22:27 biblists 22:27 all understand and agree that one ad the 22:30 traditionally accepted date of birth of 22:34 jesus 22:34 is incorrect and it's because of a 22:36 calculation error 22:38 made during the creation of the 22:40 gregorian calendar that 22:41 is also strengthened by the testimonies 22:44 that we have 22:45 on the gospels themselves both luke and 22:48 matthew 22:48 associate jesus's birth with the time of 22:51 herod 22:52 the great now notice the time of herod 22:54 the great 22:55 not his son herod the great who was the 22:57 king of the jews now head of the great 22:59 historically and that's a historically 23:02 proven date dies in 4 bc so already we 23:06 can see that the date of birth of christ 23:07 cannot be 81 23:08 but it has to be sometime before 4 bc i 23:12 know it sounds strange to say that 23:14 christ's birth was 23:15 sometime before christ but now another 23:17 important event that can help us 23:19 understand 23:19 when exactly that happened is a roman 23:22 census because it is mentioned again 23:24 in the gospels and in other accounts but 23:27 what is a roman census 23:28 in ancient rome a census was the act of 23:30 counting the people and evaluating their 23:33 property 23:33 for taxation in a given province now 23:36 roman census happened all the time so a 23:39 number of censuses were most likely 23:42 performed throughout the roman world 23:44 under sentius saturninus we know that an 23:47 important census happened in ad6 but 23:49 then again that one is no use for us but 23:51 we also know that another very important 23:53 sense has happened exactly in that area 23:55 in 8 bc now this helps us because then 23:58 we understand that 23:59 jesus's birth most likely occurred 24:01 between 8 bc 24:03 and 4 bc given the information of the 24:05 murder of the innocents that again we 24:07 have 24:08 at the hand of king harold so obviously 24:10 before he's dead 24:11 when he wanted every child born between 24:14 age 24:14 0 and age 2 to be killed and that does 24:17 happen around the time 24:19 i believe that the most historically 24:21 probable date would be 24:22 6 bc now that's significant because if 24:25 jesus was born in 6 bc then 24:27 what age was he actually crucified 24:29 another event in 24:30 jesus's life that can help us pinpoint 24:32 the date of the crucifixion is something 24:34 that happened before 24:35 and it's very very important that is the 24:37 baptism of jesus 24:38 and at the same time of the baptism 24:40 something else happens that is the 24:42 famous event 24:43 gospel event whereby jesus literally 24:47 rebukes the merchants at the temple 24:49 because they were selling 24:51 animals and he didn't like that it's a 24:53 very famous gospel event 24:54 that event happened very closely to his 24:56 baptism the accounts tell us that 24:59 that incident at the temple happened 25:01 after 46 years 25:03 from the building of said temple let now 25:06 cross 25:06 this gospel reference and jewish 25:08 reference with again 25:09 josephus flavius the roman historian he 25:12 tells us that 25:13 again this specific temple was built in 25:15 20 bc 25:16 which means 20 bc plus 46 years 25:20 we are in 26 a.d which would be the year 25:23 of the actual baptism of christ now 25:25 connecting this with the previously 25:27 explained information of 25:28 christ's actual date of birth being 6 bc 25:31 that would mean that 25:32 his baptism occurred at age 32. this 25:35 already creates a completely different 25:37 story 25:38 because it also tells us that most 25:39 likely he didn't actually die at age 33 25:42 but he died older than that and it is 25:44 very possible 25:46 that his death or crucifixion even 25:47 though i can't really give you a 25:48 specific 25:49 date would have happened sometime before 25:52 37 a.d 25:53 which is the death of emperor tiberius 25:56 this is interesting because it pushes 25:58 everything a bit forward 25:59 it tells us that he was alive longer 26:01 than we thought it tells us that he was 26:03 born before that we thought 26:05 and it also means that if you look at 26:06 these two dates now the historian 26:09 josephus flavius that we are reading 26:10 today 26:11 was born specifically in 1837 which 26:14 means 26:15 he would have been born sort of 26:17 immediately after jesus crucifixion 26:19 so he would have been basically 26:21 contemporary 26:22 and publius cornelius takitus himself 26:24 who was born in 55 26:26 it would have been very close to the 26:28 very end of jesus's 26:30 life and then the beginning of the 26:32 ministry of his followers 26:33 all of this is interesting because it 26:35 means that the majority not all of them 26:37 but the majority 26:38 of the accounts that we have read today 26:40 would have happened within approximately 26:42 40 50 years from jesus's death which is 26:45 extremely close 26:47 and we could say basically contemporary 26:49 from a historical standpoint 26:51 i mean when we talk about a lot of the 26:52 information that we say about alexander 26:54 the great 26:55 well some of the things are actually 400 26:57 years after not everything 26:58 but some of the things are 400 years 27:00 after and they're still considered valid 27:02 so i would say that these events and the 27:04 testimonials that we have read 27:06 the majority are relatively contemporary 27:08 so with all being said 27:10 in conclusion what is my conclusion 27:12 about the 27:13 historical figure of jesus or 27:16 yeshua we have enough historical 27:18 information to state 27:20 confidently that jesus of nazareth 27:22 existed and was a historically proven 27:24 figure 27:25 his appeal extended beyond the jews and 27:27 included greeks 27:28 jewish leaders of the day had an 27:30 unfavorable opinion of him he was mostly 27:32 ignored by roman authorities 27:34 until his followers started preaching 27:37 which justifies the reason why we don't 27:40 have more 27:41 information about him while he was still 27:43 alive he was then crucified 27:45 when pontius pilate was prefect of judea 27:48 and that concludes our journey 27:50 historical journey into the life 27:52 of jesus as far as his historical figure 27:55 is concerned if you liked this video 27:56 please 27:57 thumbs up and if you want me to continue 27:59 this and make it into a series we could 28:01 discuss 28:02 for example what it would have probably 28:04 looked like and sort of 28:05 examine early art and modern art 28:08 and see what gets closer to a more 28:11 historically probable 28:12 appearance and look and many other 28:15 interesting topics so let me know 28:17 what you think in the comments below 28:18 thank you so much for all of you have 28:20 watched 28:20 up to this point because i mean this is 28:22 a very long video 28:24 thank you so much and remember the 28:26 metatron has spread his wings 28:28 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