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Re: For Developers, How Did You Get Your First Remote Job And What Was The Pay. by EarlOfSaxon: 6:06am On May 10, 2022 |
zeestone99: I would love too but with the information I have provided I can't so sorry. My GitHub profile contains my identity. |
Re: For Developers, How Did You Get Your First Remote Job And What Was The Pay. by Profwriter(m): 8:01am On May 10, 2022 |
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Re: For Developers, How Did You Get Your First Remote Job And What Was The Pay. by zeestone99(m): 11:09am On May 10, 2022 |
EarlOfSaxon: Can we chat 08117398294 zeestone99@gmail.com |
Re: For Developers, How Did You Get Your First Remote Job And What Was The Pay. by EarlOfSaxon: 9:13pm On May 10, 2022 |
zeestone99: message me on discord, username is iyke#2879 please do not quote this message |
Re: For Developers, How Did You Get Your First Remote Job And What Was The Pay. by demanuel(m): 7:40am On May 11, 2022 |
Desammyst:Please how can I get started to learn this? What learning resources did you use? |
Re: For Developers, How Did You Get Your First Remote Job And What Was The Pay. by jesmond3945: 8:49am On May 11, 2022 |
demanuel:go to kaggle and practice with the codes you see there. |
Re: For Developers, How Did You Get Your First Remote Job And What Was The Pay. by justAman: 1:09pm On May 11, 2022 |
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Re: For Developers, How Did You Get Your First Remote Job And What Was The Pay. by Chrisnrld: 9:58am On Jun 24, 2022 |
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Re: For Developers, How Did You Get Your First Remote Job And What Was The Pay. by nnamdiosu(m): 10:44am On Jun 24, 2022 |
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Re: For Developers, How Did You Get Your First Remote Job And What Was The Pay. by jamznato: 5:43pm On Jul 18, 2022 |
Thanks Op. This is ginger im taking my programming serious now. Node.js, |
Re: For Developers, How Did You Get Your First Remote Job And What Was The Pay. by fortz007: 1:33am On Aug 01, 2022 |
Please i intend starting my journey in tech industry. I need suggestions amongst these three stacks and which is most sorted out for • Java • Node.js • .Net |
Re: For Developers, How Did You Get Your First Remote Job And What Was The Pay. by fortz007: 6:04pm On Aug 20, 2022 |
FanOfMyself:hello dev, i hope you got the job? |
Re: For Developers, How Did You Get Your First Remote Job And What Was The Pay. by Raxxye(m): 9:54pm On Aug 20, 2022 |
Lovely thread; Motivating me! Pls what do you guys think about Data Science in terms of: -the chances of securing a job, -the pay -and future prospects. I will appreciate inputs bc since I'm just about starting out and I'm contemplating between studying to become a developer or a data scientist. |
Re: For Developers, How Did You Get Your First Remote Job And What Was The Pay. by Hannania(m): 1:31pm On Aug 21, 2022 |
Raxxye:If you're not thinking of doing a Masters or PHD, you'd never reap positively on the good side of tech with data science. It's not a quick path. One of the longest path fields in tech. DS needs extensive research because new algorithms are created weekly, which is why the best brains are researchers. What many Nigerians are going into, is Data Analysis. There's a stack difference with Data Science. With data analytics, you can skill up in six months, learning Excell, Power BI, SQL and other frameworks, and you're good to go. It's worth it, if you know what to learn. Know the difference, and you're good to go. 4 Likes |
Re: For Developers, How Did You Get Your First Remote Job And What Was The Pay. by Eaztzide: 5:43pm On Aug 21, 2022 |
Hannania: This isn't entirely true. Yes, DS is research based most of the times but it doesn't mean you will be jumping from one tech to another in it like a JS programmer. Applying and using all the latest algos won't make you a good Data Scientist. It is about understanding the fundamentals. Also, absence of a Msc or Phd won't stop you from making it in DS 1 Like |
Re: For Developers, How Did You Get Your First Remote Job And What Was The Pay. by Hannania(m): 5:54pm On Aug 21, 2022 |
Eaztzide:As I said, it's one of the longest path in tech. Yes you might not need an advanced degree, but you need extensive years of experience. It's an experimental field. DSA is fixed, because our algorithms have not changed. But in data science, it will always change and there's a lot to take it. The bottom line, it's not a "quick" path tech field. And as I said, all the big boys in this filed have advanced degrees. 1 Like |
Re: For Developers, How Did You Get Your First Remote Job And What Was The Pay. by Hannania(m): 5:59pm On Aug 21, 2022 |
fortz007:Tech stack only matters if you know what you want to do. .NET is used mostly in legacy software these days. Java and Javascript should be the comparison you should make, then Spring/Spring boot vs Node.js. For the first two, just pick one. Node.js is mainly used at startups, and Spring boot at enterprise organizations. There are more unfilled roles remotely in Java than in Node.js. Because most developers around here think Java is hard. But you have a higher chance of getting a job with few applicants compared to backend JavaScript with node.js. Just pick one, and you're good to go. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: For Developers, How Did You Get Your First Remote Job And What Was The Pay. by Raxxye(m): 6:45pm On Aug 21, 2022 |
Hannania:Thanks a whole lot. I thought data science and data analytics were mere synonyms. Lol. Poor me, I didn't know there's such a huge difference. With this clarification, it's Data Analytics I was referring to in my question. Masters and PhD in Data Science ke! |
Re: For Developers, How Did You Get Your First Remote Job And What Was The Pay. by Hannania(m): 6:52pm On Aug 21, 2022 |
Raxxye:Yeah, if you're ambitious, you can do an MSC in DS and upskill later on. It is highly paid, but it has a long path |
Re: For Developers, How Did You Get Your First Remote Job And What Was The Pay. by Eaztzide: 6:54pm On Aug 21, 2022 |
Hannania:Well, the enormosity of DS is because it touches almost all the fields in Data- DA, Cleaning, Mining, Engineering & Visualization, ML, and so on. On the degree matter, I'll say something: an advanced degree majorly gives one a technical knowledge advantage. I've seen top people in the DS field who although possess either Masters and/or PhD, but have it in a non-CS field. The top Kaggler in the world as of last year had a PhD in Astrophysics. This means the degree gave them the ability to easily understand the field even though it isn't a related one. |
Re: For Developers, How Did You Get Your First Remote Job And What Was The Pay. by Hannania(m): 7:54pm On Aug 21, 2022 |
Eaztzide:Data Science as a domain is an infant collage major. Only few universities globally have it as a major. Most delve into it from CS, Engineering and Sciences. Even in Kaggle, you'd notice that science based holders are the leaders. There's virtually no university with DS degree status up go five years old. Most are specializations in Communications engineering (Neural networks), CS, or mathematics |
Re: For Developers, How Did You Get Your First Remote Job And What Was The Pay. by Eaztzide: 9:04pm On Aug 21, 2022 |
Hannania:Interestingly, I like how you're still heading to my point- they didn't need a (CS) advanced degree to achieve those exploits in DS. They just had technical knowledge from their various studies. Also, there are other existing related courses to DS like Econs, Stat and Maths. If they didn't further in these but in other non-science courses instead and still made it, that means a degree isn't a must. On a lighter note, did you actually classify neural network as communications engineering? |
Re: For Developers, How Did You Get Your First Remote Job And What Was The Pay. by Hannania(m): 9:07pm On Aug 21, 2022 |
Eaztzide:Firstly, I didn't say they needed a CS advanced degree, but I said they need an advanced degree that should be focused on DS specialization. Secondly, yes, Neural Networks are an embedded specialization of communication engineering |
Re: For Developers, How Did You Get Your First Remote Job And What Was The Pay. by Lastbornbuns: 9:38pm On Aug 21, 2022 |
Eaztzide:To go far in Data Science, you need an advanced degree (Masters or PhD). Interestingly, all the Meta DS roles I've seen so far for the UK ask for a PhD in econ/stat/math etc. Most others ask for at least a Masters. DS is extremely Stat-heavy. In my opinion, it is far better to do a masters in Statistics than in DS because I've noticed most DS Masters are still new and don't really have great math or stat component. They'll just teach you python/SQL/ML which you could learn on your own. Beside DS is not really an entry level role; that's DA. Most DS have like 2/3 YOE in DA or something related or an advanced degree. 1 Like |
Re: For Developers, How Did You Get Your First Remote Job And What Was The Pay. by Eaztzide: 10:25pm On Aug 21, 2022 |
Lastbornbuns:True. Still in line with I'm saying. Advanced degree will get you far but specialization of the degree isn't a necessity. |
Re: For Developers, How Did You Get Your First Remote Job And What Was The Pay. by Eaztzide: 10:37pm On Aug 21, 2022 |
Hannania: On the second aspect, I'll avoid talking on it due to some technicalities on that topic. I'm pro-degree by the way. So, I'm in support of getting a degree to advance in tech. But it was nice having this conversation and sharing our varying views on tech fields. 1 Like |
Re: For Developers, How Did You Get Your First Remote Job And What Was The Pay. by Hannania(m): 10:41pm On Aug 21, 2022 |
Eaztzide:I'm kinda interested on the "Technicalities" |
Re: For Developers, How Did You Get Your First Remote Job And What Was The Pay. by Babtunz: 11:48pm On Aug 21, 2022 |
Lastbornbuns:You seem to be a pansophist, and I admire you for that. |
Re: For Developers, How Did You Get Your First Remote Job And What Was The Pay. by Lastbornbuns: 3:19am On Aug 22, 2022 |
Babtunz:Lol. I'm not a pansophist. I just like knowing more about my interests (DS is my preferred tech career). |
Re: For Developers, How Did You Get Your First Remote Job And What Was The Pay. by Eaztzide: 6:07am On Aug 22, 2022 |
Hannania:Ok then. The technicalities is that you can't entirely classify NNs as Comms Engineering. Reason is because NNs can be applied in it but it doesn't necessarily make it Comms Engineering. It's just like saying because a snake can swim in water, they should be classified as fish. Or in more technical sense, just because OOP is used in Python for example, means OOP is Python-only. Even Google search results will show mainly show NNs applications and not its classification in CE. Besides, whenever NN is mentioned, what comes to memory is deep learning which is ML, an aspect of DS. I believe the birth of NNs didn't originate from comms engineering. These are the technicalities I'm talking about. |
Re: For Developers, How Did You Get Your First Remote Job And What Was The Pay. by Hannania(m): 7:08am On Aug 22, 2022 |
Eaztzide:When you check my comment, I stated it this way "Communications engineering (Neural networks)". Meaning it's a specialization. We're both right, but the misunderstanding was the issue from the get-go But I disapprove that NN didn't originate from Comms engineering. That's because the idea first sprung up from intelligent systems, which is birthed from Signal and systems, directly comms engineering. Computer science also has networking applied, so it evolved. It's just like the marriage between physics and electronics engineering |
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