bobestman:


You are a Spiritual and biblical olodo. All you know were downloaded into your head by the JWs
In the begining it was Man and His Creator alone. No books or bible or Religious Cults to guide you. It's Man and it's maker Books were written cos Man fell and failed to heed. The Word was engraved in us and sealed in our conscience via our spirit man. If you sin, you make peace with your maker and move on. The people commune with the Father directly not through anyone. Adam speak directly to the Father in Eden. Noah, Abraham, Isaac etc even Abimelech, Pharoah etc were warned by God through dreams when they did wrong. In the New Testament, the Messiah's disciples also recieve direction from the Father when they ask aright. It's you and your maker first. Establish a relationship with him so you can recieve direction from Him cos "my Sheep are those who hear my voice"
You can be righteous, holy and Spiritual without following any Religion. I have seen great men who do. I am also Witness. I know not all these when I was in your Religions. These days almost everything is dilluted so don't follow multitude or men of gods or Religious teachers who have no knowledge of the Father and what was corrupted from what they teach. You already have the word and everything for you to be Righteous is written there. If you follow it, you can never go wrong. Cos what God gave his people is the Word not Men. In the Word is the truth. The word is Life. The Word can cleanse you from sin cos it is written "you are clean cos of the word I speak to you".

You don't know what the word is that's why you underate it. That's why I keep telling you that those people have blinded you spiritually. Your eyes are open when you study the Word and through it the Spirit which is your true Teacher teaches you all things. We are at endtime. Evil time. A time of deception and lies. Men will arise and decieve
people. Study yourself. You have a Spirit that can teach you all things. The Word had been since Creation. He is the Tree of Life one must eat to inherit eternal life. The tree of Life is a man. Tree of Life is Ndu Orah in root Hebrew which they changed to Torah/scripture/Bible. When people still don't understand, that Word was made flesh and brought to us. That Word/Tree of Life/Law is what you people call Jesus. A name they fabricated for him. But the Hebrews his true people had known him and his true names before Vatican turned his teachings and gave a name that is not His which you all ignorantly call. I can teach you deep things that are all in your Bible but All you Christians can never see it cos how they wrote it for you is not exactly how it happened.
All you know are JW doctrines. The Word and the Spirit are the greatest Teachers not JW Org or Religions created by the Vatican to to decieve the Elects.

Ọ̀gbẹ́ni, it has not come to insults nah!

Well the Bible says those people searched for God with all their hearts and you have clearly stated that there was NO BIBLES.
So if there was no Bibles and they were searching for the God they had no foreknowledge, how did they escape demons that responded to people from other nations?

Remember that it's the same process all of them followed before God responded positively to people like Abel, Enoch, Noah and Abraham but turned away from Cain, Lamech, Nimrod and other who later became spiritists.

MaxInDHouse:


Ọ̀gbẹ́ni, it has not come to insults nah!

Well the Bible says those people searched for God with all their hearts and you have clearly stated that there was NO BIBLES.
So if there was no Bibles and they were searching for the God they had no foreknowledge, how did they escape demons that responded to people from other nations?


Remember that it's the same process all of them followed before God responded positively to people like Abel, Enoch, Noah and Abraham but turned away from Cain, Lamech, Nimrod and other who later became spiritists.

Am not insulting you man. You still don't understand. Which of the people searched for God with all their hearts and where was it written?
What is Bible? It's the reformed or altered Word of God. The Original was Torah/Nduorah/Tree of Life all must eat from to inherit eternal life. It's was also called scripture. The first was published in1611 and many things in your Bible aren't there. The Hebrew Script was dilluted when the Vatican and some rebellious Jews murdered the Hebrew Messiah. When a law giver or President is killed and another comes, the New usually changes the Laws of the former He don't like. He adds to it or create another (Daniel 7:25). This is what the Vatican did to the Hebrew Script aka Scriptures and you know the offence for those who added to the book. They changed it to bible. Your Bible today is full of contradictions, allegory, wrong doctrines etc. Many of you do see this but think you know it all in your various denominations. The Anthiests points these to you and laugh at you. They have a point. The wrongs in it will be exposed when the truth comes. Many locations in the Bible were changed, names too. They gave you the wrong children of Isreal, killed the Hebrews who know the truth credited everything to their new found religion -Christianity. Am not against the Bible. Those who know the truth will use it to correct you all untill the Time for Correction...I tell you, there is cos many things you all know is not what happened exactly.We will keep reading and learning from it till the truth is established.

Scripture came in when the Laws were given to Moses. Though they read from it but also have to obey their Priests who offer various sacrifices for them. The Priest just like Moses hear from God and tell them what to do. They have the knowledge of who God is cos He is their Father. All this are inthe 10 commandments

Before the Laws were given. They have the knowledge of God Almighty.Hope you know their Gynealogy. From there God Almighty chooses who He wants to use fulfill any purpose. They are His chosen people. They hear from their Creator and the wise and righteous ones among commune with Creator concerning anything. He also hears and speak to them. As a generation goes, they lose their godly powers cos of sin. In that Era they were god men. This is why it is written "you are gods (but you don't know) But you are going to die as mean men cos of your ignorance and unrighteousness. Many of our Ancestors in Africa saw Angels and did many supernatural things. We are the true Hebrews. There were many of such things. Those people before the Laws were given have their godly nature thus they Know and can commune with their Creator anytime. Nothing like Bible. The word was in them. Sealed in the their conscience. It will be restored when the Messiah comes cos we will no longer need the bible. It will be written in our heart as it was then and in Eden. What is coming is the Restoration of the lost Paradise. We will go back as it was in the begining.
When sin gets stronger. God Almighty uses FEW righteous Men/Seers who hear Him. And He does what He wants with them. He use them to correct and teach others. Noah, Abraham were among the few He used.
Nature was the first teacher. God Almighty put everything will need to know in nature and as men study nature they grow in Wisdom. It is written that the Heavens declare the glory of God. When we understand Nature, we understand God cos Nature declare Him. For example our Ancestors knew how many days make a year or month by observing nature. They formulated their own Calender before they gave you any one on this earth. Everything Science and others knew they learnt from us. They studied ours and created their own. Great writters like the Psalmist and Solomon wrote many of their works by observing nature. I didn't say God didn't inspire or told them things to write. Those things God gave them already have their root in nature. If you doubt that their is God and He can be 2 or 3 and their are children according to how people understood it, look up and you will see the Sun, moon and stars. Sun and Moon are Father and Mother while stars are the children. But their is a first Sun/Son/Star/Light before others which is the Messiah. To support it with a reference read Joseph's dream. As it's in heaven, so it's in nature, so it's among humans and animals.

trillest1960:
My brothers and friends Why believe anything at all in the first place? If there's a God or not, your believe affects it not. Finding out the truth is what is important! Knowing who you are and the true nature of reality is what is important. A belief is mostly just deception most times, either something is or is not, your belief is useless! The sun exists, this is a hard fact, weather u belief it exists or not is useless. Your belief is just a mere personal notion, it is not a reality! Strive to know the truth of your existence once and for all. without even knowing who you are how can you dare aspire to know the God that you believe in?? A wave does not know that it is a wave and yet it makes attempt to know the ocean, how absurd! Apply logic, Think!

say what now?

bobestman:

Am not insulting you man. You still don't understand. Which of the people searched for God with all their hearts and where was it written?
What is Bible? It's the reformed or altered Word of God. The Original was Torah/Nduorah/Tree of Life all must eat from to inherit eternal life. It's was also called scripture. The first was published in1611 and many things in your Bible aren't there. The Hebrew Script was dilluted when the Vatican and some rebellious Jews murdered the Hebrew Messiah. When a law giver or President is killed and another comes, the New usually changes the Laws of the former He don't like. He adds to it or create another (Daniel 7:25). This is what the Vatican did to the Hebrew Script aka Scriptures and you know the offence for those who added to the book. They changed it to bible. Your Bible today is full of contradictions, allegory, wrong doctrines etc. Many of you do see this but think you know it all in your various denominations. The Anthiests points these to you and laugh at you. They have a point. The wrongs in it will be exposed when the truth comes. Many locations in the Bible were changed, names too. They gave you the wrong children of Isreal, killed the Hebrews who know the truth credited everything to their new found religion -Christianity. Am not against the Bible. Those who know the truth will use it to correct you all untill the Time for Correction...I tell you, there is cos many things you all know is not what happened exactly.We will keep reading and learning from it till the truth is established.

Scripture came in when the Laws were given to Moses. Though they read from it but also have to obey their Priests who offer various sacrifices for them. The Priest just like Moses hear from God and tell them what to do. They have the knowledge of who God is cos He is their Father. All this are inthe 10 commandments

Before the Laws were given. They have the knowledge of God Almighty.Hope you know their Gynealogy. From there God Almighty chooses who He wants to use fulfill any purpose. They are His chosen people. They hear from their Creator and the wise and righteous ones among commune with Creator concerning anything. He also hears and speak to them. As a generation goes, they lose their godly powers cos of sin. In that Era they were god men. This is why it is written "you are gods (but you don't know) But you are going to die as mean men cos of your ignorance and unrighteousness. Many of our Ancestors in Africa saw Angels and did many supernatural things. We are the true Hebrews. There were many of such things. Those people before the Laws were given have their godly nature thus they Know and can commune with their Creator anytime. Nothing like Bible. The word was in them. Sealed in the their conscience. It will be restored when the Messiah comes cos we will no longer need the bible. It will be written in our heart as it was then and in Eden. What is coming is the Restoration of the lost Paradise. We will go back as it was in the begining.
When sin gets stronger. God Almighty uses FEW righteous Men/Seers who hear Him. And He does what He wants with them. He use them to correct and teach others. Noah, Abraham were among the few He used.
Nature was the first teacher. God Almighty put everything will need to know in nature and as men study nature they grow in Wisdom. It is written that the Heavens declare the glory of God. When we understand Nature, we understand God cos Nature declare Him. For example our Ancestors knew how many days make a year or month by observing nature. They formulated their own Calender before they gave you any one on this earth. Everything Science and others knew they learnt from us. They studied ours and created their own. Great writters like the Psalmist and Solomon wrote many of their works by observing nature. I didn't say God didn't inspire or told them things to write. Those things God gave them already have their root in nature. If you doubt that their is God and He can be 2 or 3 and their are children according to how people understood it, look up and you will see the Sun, moon and stars. Sun and Moon are Father and Mother while stars are the children. But their is a first Sun/Son/Star/Light before others which is the Messiah. To support it with a reference read Joseph's dream. As it's in heaven, so it's in nature, so it's among humans and animals.

Who wrote the Torah?

MaxInDHouse:


Who wrote the Torah?

It was written by RA Moshe aka Moses according God Almighty's instruction on Mount ISi Ani/Sinai/First or Head land of the people of the Sovereign God. It's a code, Law, Traditions, Do's and Dont's the people of God Almighty must follow to be at peace with their maker. It's was given when the people became so corrupt and sinful that they lost their godly nature. I once told you and the Bible also affirmed that we were gods. Our Ancestors were. We today have lost it cos of Blindness. Sin is Blindness or inability to see, do and understand what is right that one does the wrong things. So now, they need the rules in written form so they will meditate daily on it till it's sealed in their heart. In the begining it was sealed in their heart. They have to read books when they became blind. Its also written that the Word will be written in our heart in the Kingdom. What is coming is a Restoration of everything we lost due to Blindness/Sin

bobestman:

It was written by RA Moshe aka Moses according God Almighty's instruction on Mount ISi Ani/Sinai/First or Head land of the people of the Sovereign God. It's a code, Law, Traditions, Do's and Dont's the people of God Almighty must follow to be at peace with their maker. It's was given when the people became so corrupt and sinful that they lost their godly nature. I once told you and the Bible also affirmed that we were gods. Our Ancestors were. We today have lost it cos of Blindness. Sin is Blindness or inability to see, do and understand what is right that one does the wrong things. So now, they need the rules in written form so they will meditate daily on it till it's sealed in their heart. In the begining it was sealed in their heart. They have to read books when they became blind. Its also written that the Word will be written in our heart in the Kingdom. What is coming is a Restoration of everything we lost due to Blindness/Sin

Who is Moses and what business have i to do with his writings?

Aidejay:
Is it possible for someone to believe in God but not believe in religion?

It has become obvious to me, that many Nigerians equate religion/religiosity/religiousness with
belief in God/allah.

So therefore, saying that you do not believe in religion to them it means that you do not believe in God.

So, I ask is it possible to believe in religion and not believe in god or to believe in god and not believe in religion.

There are an estimated 10,000 distinct religions worldwide. About 84% of the world’s population is affiliated with Christianity, Islam, Hinduism, Buddhism, or some of folk religion. The religiously
unaffiliated demographic includes those who do not identify with any particular religion. While the religiously unaffiliated have grown globally, many of the religiously unaffiliated still have various religious beliefs - Wikipedia.

To me not believing in religion simply means you do not adhere to the ideology that one religion supersedes the others be it Islam, Christianity, Hinduism. It means you do not act based on religious sentiments, bias or obligation. I also believe it means seeing god as then same or one, like when they say there is 1 god but many religions. Not believing in religion doesn’t mean you don’t celebrate religious traditions such as Circumcision, celebrating Christmas, Marriage, Funerals, Salah, wearing hijabs or other coverings, eating certain animals, attending mass or prayers. Not believing in religion doesn’t mean you do not read the bible or Quran or torah and other religious texts, it also doesn’t mean you do not pray or fast.

I believe with the use of religion to perpetrate so many atrocities in the world today it is quite understandable if some one decides to follow god and not religion but that would mean that there is a distinction between god and religion. Is there?

This sounds more like a selective adherence to religious practice, it is something many religious people already do with varying degrees of immersion into their source religion.

MaxInDHouse:

Who is Moses and what business have i to do with his writings?

Your question above shows that you are a Spiritual and biblical baby. Drop your ego and all the things dowloaded into your head by the JWs. Try and read, research and understand things yourself.

You talk foolishly about a Man who:
Prophesied about the coming of the Hebrew Messiah (Acts 3:22)
Who was used to bring His people out of the house of bondage (Exo 3:10-22)
An inspiration even in the NT which is just a commentary of the Torah (Heb 11:23-28)
A great intercessor for his people (Exo 5:22)
A man whom some of the Messiah's disciples saw during the Transfiguration (Mark 9:2-. This shows that He was like the Messiah, Enoch, Elijah who were caught up to heaven. If you are sound spiritually you will know that they are one person coming in different era for the salvation of their people. An Incarnation of the Messiah
A man who spoke face to face with God Almighty (Exo 33:11)
A friend of God Almighty who was said to be very meek more than all on earth in that Era (Num 12:3)
A man whose song is always remembered in heaven (Rev 15:3)
The Messiah of the Torah
The Torah together with the other they told you is the Old Testament (big lie) is the real scripture. The Word and Father never get Old. It's 90% of the entire scripture. The NT is just like 10% and that 10% is only about the Messiah and what He did. Apart from what Christ did, everything has their root in the Torah. Their is nothing there you won't find in the Torah. It's commenting about the Torah. That's why it always quotes the Torah by saying "it's written". Many things in the Torah are still unfulfilled. The Torah is the real scripture.

The problem of you Christians is that you think another gospel was given in the NT. You also think the Old Laws were abolished. No. It was a Roman lie. The Torah was abrogated. Many things were turned by selfish priest. They added many unecessary laws. This is why the Messiah said they practice traditions of men. The Messiah then came and correct all these things. The wrong laws were removed. Did they stop practicing the Laws during the NT even after the Messiah's death? NO.
The Messiah kept the Sabbaths and Feasts. The disciples also did after His death. Research it in the NT yourself. This shows that the Laws were NEVER abolished but abrogated. The Messiah removed the enmity (wrongs added by evil Priests and Rulers) in the Law. He also clarified certain things the people don't understand like stoning a woman caught in Adultery. That law was in the Torah cos a little leaven leavens the whole lump. If that was not addressed by death, others will start practicing it which will bring the Father's wrath on the people. Another was that of the Sabbath. The Messiah made them know that it should not be a burden cos He himself is the Sabbath. He told the the real meaning of these things. He said that He will fulfill the Law and everything written about Him. Can you see now that many things in Christianity were written out of contest. Many of the doctrines were that of Pagans added to write off the chosen people and their Ways. About 60% of many things you people do and read in the NT is not what happened. They were added by the Vatican. And I tell you, when the truth comes, they will confess their sins (Dan 7:25).

You said that of Moses cos you don't know who He is. His Hebrew name is RA Moshe. One of the truest name of the Messiah was RA but the meaning is not what many understand. They called him Rabbi, Rabboni. The Bible writters interpreted it as Master but were wrong. The name had more meaning that's hidden. In English RA is light. Light is Son/Sun/Ray. RA is in Raphael (healer). To open your eyes more, that name has root in your African tongues and the Bible names just that the people have forgoten. RA is in RAhab, IsRAel, RAguel, RAfiu, MaRAnatha, RApture (RA means the light or Christ, ture means when something comes out or opens as in Rupture. That's where you Christians got the concept of Rapture -the coming out of a great Light). All this I told you about RA, can you do that with Jesus? What is the root name in Jesus. Can it be blended into other names in the Bible and in your African tongue (original languages of the bible) as I did with RA? Jesus was fabricated by Roman and added to the Bible as the name of the Messiah. This is why I tell you that the bible is a coded book.. whose meaning was sealed untill endtime. (Daniel 12:4). You may call these lies but you can never deny the evidence I gave you to proof them.

Funny enough in order to explain yourself you quoted books from Genesis to Revelation.
So all the scriptures are inspired of God and benefitial for teaching, reproving, setting matters straight and disciplining in righteousness! 2Timothy 3:26

Therefore you can't tell me that any of the books making up the Bible is uninspired.
Now you can see how stupid you proved to be by speaking against any Bible book!

bobestman:

Your question above shows that you are a Spiritual and biblical baby. Drop your ego and all the things dowloaded into your head by the JWs. Try and read, research and understand things yourself.

You talk foolishly about a Man who:
Prophesied about the coming of the Hebrew Messiah (Acts 3:22)
Who was used to bring His people out of the house of bondage (Exo 3:10-22)
An inspiration even in the NT which is just a commentary of the Torah (Heb 11:23-28)
A great intercessor for his people (Exo 5:22)
A man whom some of the Messiah's disciples saw during the Transfiguration (Mark 9:2-. This shows that He was like the Messiah, Enoch, Elijah who were caught up to heaven. If you are sound spiritually you will know that they are one person coming in different era for the salvation of their people. An Incarnation of the Messiah
A man who spoke face to face with God Almighty (Exo 33:11)
A friend of God Almighty who was said to be very meek more than all on earth in that Era (Num 12:3)
A man whose song is always remembered in heaven (Rev 15:3)
The Messiah of the Torah
The Torah together with the other they told you is the Old Testament (big lie) is the real scripture. The Word and Father never get Old. It's 90% of the entire scripture. The NT is just like 10% and that 10% is only about the Messiah and what He did. Apart from what Christ did, everything has their root in the Torah. Their is nothing there you won't find in the Torah. It's commenting about the Torah. That's why it always quotes the Torah by saying "it's written". Many things in the Torah are still unfulfilled. The Torah is the real scripture.

The problem of you Christians is that you think another gospel was given in the NT. You also think the Old Laws were abolished. No. It was a Roman lie. The Torah was abrogated. Many things were turned by selfish priest. They added many unecessary laws. This is why the Messiah said they practice traditions of men. The Messiah then came and correct all these things. The wrong laws were removed. Did they stop practicing the Laws during the NT even after the Messiah's death? NO.
The Messiah kept the Sabbaths and Feasts. The disciples also did after His death. Research it in the NT yourself. This shows that the Laws were NEVER abolished but abrogated. The Messiah removed the enmity (wrongs added by evil Priests and Rulers) in the Law. He also clarified certain things the people don't understand like stoning a woman caught in Adultery. That law was in the Torah cos a little leaven leavens the whole lump. If that was not addressed by death, others will start practicing it which will bring the Father's wrath on the people. Another was that of the Sabbath. The Messiah made them know that it should not be a burden cos He himself is the Sabbath. He told the the real meaning of these things. He said that He will fulfill the Law and everything written about Him. Can you see now that many things in Christianity were written out of contest. Many of the doctrines were that of Pagans added to write off the chosen people and their Ways. About 60% of many things you people do and read in the NT is not what happened. They were added by the Vatican. And I tell you, when the truth comes, they will confess their sins (Dan 7:25).

You said that of Moses cos you don't know who He is. His Hebrew name is RA Moshe. One of the truest name of the Messiah was RA but the meaning is not what many understand. They called him Rabbi, Rabboni. The Bible writters interpreted it as Master but were wrong. The name had more meaning that's hidden. In English RA is light. Light is Son/Sun/Ray. RA is in Raphael (healer). To open your eyes more, that name has root in your African tongues and the Bible names just that the people have forgoten. RA is in RAhab, IsRAel, RAguel, RAfiu, MaRAnatha, RApture (RA means the light or Christ, ture means when something comes out or opens as in Rupture. That's where you Christians got the concept of Rapture -the coming out of a great Light). All this I told you about RA, can you do that with Jesus? What is the root name in Jesus. Can it be blended into other names in the Bible and in your African tongue (original languages of the bible) as I did with RA? Jesus was fabricated by Roman and added to the Bible as the name of the Messiah. This is why I tell you that the bible is a coded book.. whose meaning was sealed untill endtime. (Daniel 12:4). You may call these lies but you can never deny the evidence I gave you to proof them.

bobestman:

Your question above shows that you are a Spiritual and biblical baby. Drop your ego and all the things dowloaded into your head by the JWs. Try and read, research and understand things yourself.

You talk foolishly about a Man who:
Prophesied about the coming of the Hebrew Messiah (Acts 3:22)
Who was used to bring His people out of the house of bondage (Exo 3:10-22)
An inspiration even in the NT which is just a commentary of the Torah (Heb 11:23-28)
A great intercessor for his people (Exo 5:22)
A man whom some of the Messiah's disciples saw during the Transfiguration (Mark 9:2-. This shows that He was like the Messiah, Enoch, Elijah who were caught up to heaven. If you are sound spiritually you will know that they are one person coming in different era for the salvation of their people. An Incarnation of the Messiah
A man who spoke face to face with God Almighty (Exo 33:11)
A friend of God Almighty who was said to be very meek more than all on earth in that Era (Num 12:3)
A man whose song is always remembered in heaven (Rev 15:3)
The Messiah of the Torah
The Torah together with the other they told you is the Old Testament (big lie) is the real scripture. The Word and Father never get Old. It's 90% of the entire scripture. The NT is just like 10% and that 10% is only about the Messiah and what He did. Apart from what Christ did, everything has their root in the Torah. Their is nothing there you won't find in the Torah. It's commenting about the Torah. That's why it always quotes the Torah by saying "it's written". Many things in the Torah are still unfulfilled. The Torah is the real scripture.

The problem of you Christians is that you think another gospel was given in the NT. You also think the Old Laws were abolished. No. It was a Roman lie. The Torah was abrogated. Many things were turned by selfish priest. They added many unecessary laws. This is why the Messiah said they practice traditions of men. The Messiah then came and correct all these things. The wrong laws were removed. Did they stop practicing the Laws during the NT even after the Messiah's death? NO.
The Messiah kept the Sabbaths and Feasts. The disciples also did after His death. Research it in the NT yourself. This shows that the Laws were NEVER abolished but abrogated. The Messiah removed the enmity (wrongs added by evil Priests and Rulers) in the Law. He also clarified certain things the people don't understand like stoning a woman caught in Adultery. That law was in the Torah cos a little leaven leavens the whole lump. If that was not addressed by death, others will start practicing it which will bring the Father's wrath on the people. Another was that of the Sabbath. The Messiah made them know that it should not be a burden cos He himself is the Sabbath. He told the the real meaning of these things. He said that He will fulfill the Law and everything written about Him. Can you see now that many things in Christianity were written out of contest. Many of the doctrines were that of Pagans added to write off the chosen people and their Ways. About 60% of many things you people do and read in the NT is not what happened. They were added by the Vatican. And I tell you, when the truth comes, they will confess their sins (Dan 7:25).

You said that of Moses cos you don't know who He is. His Hebrew name is RA Moshe. One of the truest name of the Messiah was RA but the meaning is not what many understand. They called him Rabbi, Rabboni. The Bible writters interpreted it as Master but were wrong. The name had more meaning that's hidden. In English RA is light. Light is Son/Sun/Ray. RA is in Raphael (healer). To open your eyes more, that name has root in your African tongues and the Bible names just that the people have forgoten. RA is in RAhab, IsRAel, RAguel, RAfiu, MaRAnatha, RApture (RA means the light or Christ, ture means when something comes out or opens as in Rupture. That's where you Christians got the concept of Rapture -the coming out of a great Light). All this I told you about RA, can you do that with Jesus? What is the root name in Jesus. Can it be blended into other names in the Bible and in your African tongue (original languages of the bible) as I did with RA? Jesus was fabricated by Roman and added to the Bible as the name of the Messiah. This is why I tell you that the bible is a coded book.. whose meaning was sealed untill endtime. (Daniel 12:4). You may call these lies but you can never deny the evidence I gave you to proof them.

I feel you man.

I also agree with you that we must do our own research and be open minded to see these things with our own eyes.

There was this book I read by Alvin Boyd Kuhn titled - Who is this King of Glory? (A critical study of the Christos-Messiah Tradition)

We ALL have direct access to God because we are ALL his children.

We don't need any pope, pastor, reverend, bishop, elder or governing body in between.

Cheers!

oteneaaron:

I feel you man.

I also agree with you that we must do our own research and be open minded to see these things with our own eyes.

There was this book I read by Alvin Boyd Kuhn titled - Who is this King of Glory? (A critical study of the Christos-Messiah Tradition)

We ALL have direct access to God because we are ALL his children.
We don't need any pope, pastor, reverend, bishop, elder or governing body in between.Cheers!

Where exactly did you get this idea that we are, all of us, God's children?

oteneaaron:

I feel you man.
I also agree with you that we must do our own research and be open minded to see these things with our own eyes.
There was this book I read by Alvin Boyd Kuhn titled - Who is this King of Glory? (A critical study of the Christos-Messiah Tradition)
We ALL have direct access to God because we are ALL his children.
We don't need any pope, pastor, reverend, bishop, elder or governing body in between.
Cheers!

oteneaaron:

GOD-- Signifies the "supreme being" from any religion ( Yahweh, Allah, Buhdda, Sango, Krishna, Oduduwa, Owoicho........etc)

MAN-- Signifies You and I ; all humans existing and non-existing(HUMANITY as a whole)

RELIGION-- signifies all of the worlds religion (after-all they are all products of the same factory)

WHO CREATED GOD??
.

Now who created GOD??


Sadly, the answer has been right in Front of Us all this time........

WE created GOD!! You and I , MAN.....

When we felt the need to Control our fellow MAN, we created GOD and religion to keep humans in check , after-all they must all answer to our creation -GOD-

GET IT RIGHT...

We created GOD

Now, our creation of GOD may have been a necessary evil, and MAN is growing up....the time has come for us to let go of Childish things!!

Who said we don't need a "Governing Body" that will be feeding us spiritually speaking during the endtime? Matthew 24:45
Simple answer those who detests God's plan as He sent His only begotten Son to teach us what will occur during the final part of the days!

MaxInDHouse:





Who said we don't need a "Governing Body" that will be feeding us spiritually speaking during the endtime? Matthew 24:45
Simple answer those who detests God's plan as He sent His only begotten Son to teach us what will occur during the final part of the days!

Have you forgotten that Jesus spoke about two slaves in that parable?

A faithful slave and a wicked slave.

I personally do not believe that the GB of the JW are the faithful slave Jesus referred to - at least not anymore.

Kobojunkie:
Where exactly did you get this idea that we are, all of us, God's children?

It depends on what you understand about who God is.

When I say we are ALL GOD'S CHILDREN, I am saying that we are ALL made from the same source.

The infinite mind behind the universe is who I am talking about.

We are all from the same source.

Therefore, we are ALL his children.

Comprende?

oteneaaron:

It depends on what you understand about who God is.
When I say we are ALL GOD'S CHILDREN, I am saying that we are ALL made from the same source.
The infinite mind behind the universe is who I am talking about.
We are all from the same source.
Therefore, we are ALL his children.
Comprende?

All animals( single-celled etc.) are also from the same source. So are you insinuating that they too are ALL of them , God's children?

Kobojunkie:
All animals( single-celled etc.) are also from the same source. So are you insinuating that they too are ALL of them , God's children?

That is why is said it depends on who you understand God to be.

ALL THINGS - the entire universe - all come from one source.

oteneaaron:

Have you forgotten that Jesus spoke about two slaves in that parable?
A faithful slave and a wicked slave.
I personally do not believe that the GB of the JW are the faithful slave Jesus referred to - at least not anymore.

Do you even believe in God at all?
Since you said "you and your friends created GOD"

MaxInDHouse:


Do you even believe in God at all?
Since you said "you and your friends created GOD"

Hahahaha

Even if you read that thread a million times, you will never understand what I meant.

Gloat all you want.

If I tell you a little bit of what I believe, you might literally go crazy.

oteneaaron:
That is why is said it depends on who you understand God to be.

ALL THINGS - the entire universe - all come from one source.

I am here trying to understand your idea of God , is what.

oteneaaron:

Hahahaha
Even if you read that thread a million times, you will never understand what I meant.
Gloat all you want.
If I tell you a little bit of what I believe, you might literally go crazy.

It's written in your thread "Who created God?"
And you answered "you and your cohorts"
That's enough for any right thinking person to know all that's needed about you!

MaxInDHouse:


It's written in your thread "Who created God?"
And you answered "you and your cohorts"
That's enough for any right thinking person to know all that's needed about you!

That's fine.

What you or anybody thinks about me doesn't move me one bit.

I am on my own personal journey to find my own gnosis.

Have I made mistakes? YES!

Will I still make many more? YES!

It is a necessary evil.

To transform lead into gold, it MUST go through intense heat.

Kobojunkie:
I am here trying to understand your idea of God , is what.

I am speaking of the INFINITE MIND behind the universe.

Is this still hard to understand?

oteneaaron:

That's fine.
What you or anybody thinks about me doesn't move me one bit.
I am on my own personal journey to find my own gnosis.
Have I made mistakes? YES!
Will I still make many more? YES!
It is a necessary evil.
To transform lead into gold, it MUST go through intense heat.

Of course everyone made mistakes one time or the other in life, but what makes yours really pathetic is how you left an organized people claiming believers in God and start saying "people like you created God" shows how worse your situation is.
I left Islam for Jehovah's Witnesses organization because i never lost interest in finding God's people.

OK, now that you've realized you were stupid to have put up that insanity why haven't you deleted it to prove that it was some psychopathic thought that caught you back then?

MaxInDHouse:


Of course everyone made mistakes one time or the other in life, but what makes yours really pathetic is how you left an organized people claiming believers in God and start saying "people like you created God" shows how worse your situation is.
I left Islam for Jehovah's Witnesses organization because i never lost interest in finding God's people.

OK, now that you've realized you were stupid to have put up that insanity why haven't you deleted it to prove that it was some psychopathic thought that caught you back then?

I am not refuting a word of what I said on that thread.

You left Islam to become a JW?

Good for you.

You call my case pathetic? - It is you who I feel pity for.

You left one mind-control system and ended up in another.

For how long will you continue giving your power to men like you?

You typed this years ago:

oteneaaron:

Who Created God?
You and i,

GET IT RIGHT, We created God!

Then when confronted you typed this:

oteneaaron:

Have I made mistakes? YES!

Will I still make many more? YES!

Then this:

oteneaaron:

I am not refuting a word of what I said on that thread. You left Islam to become a JW?
Good for you. You call my case pathetic? - It is you who I feel pity for. You left one mind-control system and ended up in another.
For how long will you continue giving your power to men like you?

Surely faithless miscreants like you can't be in the midst of God's people {Psalms 24:3-4} that's why you don't want to be guided at all so that you can continue spewing gibberish about God!

God's people have always have leaders controlling them on how to live a holy life that befits God's people. Hebrews 13:7, 17
So your insinuation about how you and your cohorts created God wasn't an error after all it's exactly what you have in mind about God

MaxInDHouse:
You typed this years ago:



Then when confronted you typed this:



Then this:



Surely faithless miscreants like you can't be in the midst of God's people {Psalms 24:3-4} that's why you don't want to be guided at all so that you can continue spewing gibberish about God!

God's people have always have leaders controlling them on how to live a holy life that befits God's people. Hebrews 13:7, 17
So your insinuation about how you and your cohorts created God wasn't an error after all it's exactly what you have in mind about God

Then enjoy your sweet organization.

Enjoy your faithful and discreet Governing Body as they give you food at the proper time.

After all, Armageddon is coming soon.

So you and the members of your organization can rejoice when me and my kind will be finally destroyed.

Free me and my faithless, miscreant self to enjoy the path I have taken.

Gracias!!

YES

oteneaaron:

Then enjoy your sweet organization.
Enjoy your faithful and discreet Governing Body as they give you food at the proper time.
After all, Armageddon is coming soon.
So you and the members of your organization can rejoice when me and my kind will be finally destroyed.
Free me and my faithless, miscreant self to enjoy the path I have taken.
Gracias!!

You must be silenced before God's people any day any time! Isaiah 54:17

oteneaaron:


I feel you man.

I also agree with you that we must do our own research and be open minded to see these things with our own eyes.

There was this book I read by Alvin Boyd Kuhn titled - Who is this King of Glory? (A critical study of the Christos-Messiah Tradition)

We ALL have direct access to God because we are ALL his children.

We don't need any pope, pastor, reverend, bishop, elder or governing body in between.

Cheers!

You just summarised what I wrote up their in brief. That's how it was in the begining and even today. Those who have ears should hear.

Don't trouble yourself. Leave the confused Christians alone in their ignorance. I tell you, what they understand in that bible is not up to 20%. They will understand when Ishi Ulo (Shiloh) comes - that's how it was written (Gen 49:10). They have mistaken Shiloh for Jesus. I don't have strenght to expose the lies they used to decieve this lots.