gidgiddy:
Despite armed Fulan herdsmen killing people across Nigeria, Nigerians had no problem electing a Fulani man like Buhari President of Nigeria

Despite OPC wrecking havoc in the South West in the 90's, killing people and driving non indigenes out, Nigerians had no problem electing a Yoruba man like Obasanjo President in the late 90's

Despite Ijaw Niger Delta militants destroying and killing people in the South South, Nigerians elected an Ijaw man called Jonathan President

It is only when it comes to Igbos that people start making unnecessary noise they did not make with others

Aufbauh:
The simple reason is that we've seen through their actions and words that they're are Democratic in nature.
They have shown over the time that they lack most of the Democratic tendencies to govern a multiethnic and multi religious country like Nigeria.

Again we don't really know what they want going by their disposition. Today it's Biafra or death, then tomorrow it's Nigeria president.

Also they are the least patriotic tribe in Nigeria to be entrusted the highest office of the nation.

TheRealestGuy:


Is it the parties primary elections that make any one president? It is on record that Igbos voted for OBJ massively on both ocassions even when Ojukwu was a contestant under another party in 2003.

Please think before you comment.

TheRealestGuy:


It is a known fact that Igbos integrate wherever they find themselves and also assimilate other cultures - if that isn't nation building then what is?

As for your last statement, yes Igbos do sort of have a superiority complex which can be a real cause of disaffection but I don't agree that having a superiority complex should be the reason why they are a target for killing at every instance of Riots in the North or why they should never be in the presidency in Nigeria.

Munamoqel:
the integration is economic and strategy to maximize the opportunity the foreign land offer(only ) while still looking at the contented host as mumu .it not only within. Nigeria but West Africa and now south Africa .an igbo man was sentence to life in prison in South Africa for kidnapping young girl ,raping them drug them and selling them to brothel clients .Who does that in a foreign land in the name of hustle (smartness ) this world view of thing is totally unacceptable.persons that became clothed in less than 200 years ago cannot be assume to be more smart and Superior to 1000 year bornu empires ,Benin empires that where clothed and have standing army to raid and expand empires . recently I learnt from Reno written that igbo where former slaves in the Benin empires and where the slaves that built the great Benin wall and form bulk of the slaves ship to America .I think is inferiority complex has been the distorting Gene in the igbo man behaviour and arrogance.

TheRealestGuy:


It is a known fact that Igbos integrate wherever they find themselves and also assimilate other cultures - if that isn't nation building then what is?

As for your last statement, yes Igbos do sort of have a superiority complex which can be a real cause of disaffection but I don't agree that having a superiority complex should be the reason why they are a target for killing at every instance of Riots in the North or why they should never be in the presidency in Nigeria.

aribisala0:

Let us have the Eboe candidate first and see whether Nigerian will vote for them
How did OBJ win the primaries? What you are suggesting now is not on record as happening i.e GIFT YOU candidacies of the two main parties> So you claim is dishonest

FIRST WIN THE TICKET

OBJ was not gifted the ticket
He contested against Ekwueme


It is on record that Eboes voted against Abiola so what are you saying stop trying to twist facts

TheRealestGuy:


Yes many Igbos voted against Abiola simply because he was a crook who actually sponsored a number of military coups.

The Igbos generally don't support crooks for national positions, the same way someone like Orji Uzor Kalu or Rochas will be roundly rejected by Igbos if they ever contested for any national leadership position.

It is not primary elections that determine who becomes president but that rhe candidate must win in 2/3 of the states in the federation.

You don't have any cogent reason man.

Try again.

aribisala0:
Eboes have inferiority complex and com pensate for that feeling with empty and noisy boastfulness
A so called superiority complex is just the other side of the same coin.
Anyone who knows Eboes well know they do this even among themselves. Chronic jealousy, bad mouth and bad mouthing are very common and typical traits even when relating with other Eboes

TheRealestGuy:


You obviously have an intense dislike or hate for Igbos so much that you try to sound as denigrating as possible at any given chance.

All those things you mentioned can be found in every tribe so you don't have any good reason for your crass behaviour.

May you find healing.

TheRealestGuy:


You obviously have an intense dislike or hate for Igbos so much that you try to sound as denigrating as possible at any given chance.

All those things you mentioned can be found in every tribe so you don't have any good reason for your crass behaviour.

May you find healing.

KillIgbohoN0W:


Lest Nwafors turn Nigeria to our property like we have turned Lagos.

Grayoso:


OP, you have your answer in the response above. Other Nigerians don't like Igbos and never will as long as the average Igbo has the mindset of the douchebag above.

Nigerians tolerate you but they don't like you because of your arrogance and insultive disrespect, based on nothing and totally unwarranted, towards them.

Even a spare part hustler in Ladipo, barely getting by, will be bragging Igbos "own" Lagos.

You are tolerantly supported and allowed to thrive in Lagos in the SW and far from your barren SE enclave. Yet how do you pay back your hosts? With enmity and demeaning insult.

Meanwhile , we don't hear ingrate noise from the more than 100 ethnic groups in Lagos to include successful ones like Edos etal.

Only Igbos will be insulting Yorubas that they" "own" Lagos and have turned Yorubas to slaves in their own land when those statements are ridiculous lies any sane person should be ashamed to tell.

You won't question your folks for having such a troublemaking and offensive mindset.

Instead you start threads like this where you pretend to be the victim of discrimination.

Your thread is mischievous and indicts you as insincere because, if honest to yourself, you should know the annoying behavior of your own people that makes them difficult to like let alone support to lead other Nigerians.

We all saw what you made of the Jonathan Presidency when he is actually Ijaw. You vindictively demanded everyone else, especially Yorubas and Fulanis, be excluded, marginalised, oppressed and punished. You demanded the Presidency be used as a tool to satisfy your lust for vengeance against others.

What will you then demand if an actual Igbo is President? How can Yorubas and Fulanis, for example, ever support an Igbo to be President when you have shown your hands of ethnic bigotry and hate to them uncountable times?

olisaEze:
Politics in Nigeria is a 'winner takes all' affair. The igbos as astute in marketing as they are, don’t know how to market themselves in politics, that’s why. You can either be President or you can choose to keep fighting for a phantom country, but u can’t have both! "The Yoruba are snakes and come from a brown roof republic", "the Hausas are murderers", "the Middle-belters are Fulani enablers", "the South-South are living in Biafraland". You’ll always stand alone when ure a know it all, that’s a fact! If the Igbo want support from the rest of the country, let them build bridges and not cheer as MNK burns them to the ground.

TheRealestGuy:


Yes many Igbos voted against Abiola simply because he was a crook who actually sponsored a number of military coups.

The Igbos generally don't support crooks for national positions, the same way someone like Orji Uzor Kalu or Rochas will be roundly rejected by Igbos if they ever contested for any national leadership position.

It is not primary elections that determine who becomes president but that rhe candidate must win in 2/3 of the states in the federation.

You don't have any cogent reason man.

Try again.

TheRealestGuy:
I ask this question cos it is bewildering and quite shocking to see the reactions of a lot of Nigerians whenever the question of an Igbo presidency is brought up.

Bear in mind that historically, Igbos have voted for a Yoruba man for presidency (Obasanjo in '99 & '03), an Ijaw man (GEJ in '11) as well as twice for core Fulani men (Yar'adua and Atiku). Therefore, any accusations of hate of other tribes by Igbos is laughable and obviously untrue.

Furthermore, Igbos can arguably be said to be the most integrated ethnic group in Nigeria since there's no LGA or Town in the country where you won't find a sizable number Igbo people most likely engaging in business, paying taxes and adding their quota to the economic and social development of the state.

Now I know the issue of the 1966 coup might come up but remember that this was a military affair which cannot be blamed on the average Igbo man and that the coup plotters weren't solely of Igbo origin. Also, those involved in the coup have written several books as to the reason why it was carried out (e.g. Why We Struck by Col. Ademoyega) hence, ruling out any idea that it was an ethnic cleansing.

Finally, it is on record that an Igbo officer was the one who foiled the coup and arrested the officers involved (even though he could have handled it much better by meting out justice asap). Also, if the 1966 coup were to be the reason for the irrational distrust, haven't Igbos paid the more than enough price for Nzeoguwo and Co's mistakes?

Last thing I can think of is that they are afraid that an Igbo president will push for referendum to be reinserted into the constitution. Question is how is that a negative thing? Remember that the right to self determination is something that every progressive country should have and in a democracy, all discussions no matter how sensitive must be allowed as that is how a democracy matures - it is tested continuously.

So I'm asking directly - If you're one of those vehemently opposing the idea of an Igbo president, can you give a good/cogent reason for this decision?

olisaEze:
Politics in Nigeria is a 'winner takes all' affair. The igbos as astute in marketing as they are, don’t know how to market themselves in politics, that’s why. You can either be President or you can choose to keep fighting for a phantom country, but u can’t have both! "The Yoruba are snakes and come from a brown roof republic", "the Hausas are murderers", "the Middle-belters are Fulani enablers", "the South-South are living in Biafraland". You’ll always stand alone when ure a know it all, that’s a fact! If the Igbo want support from the rest of the country, let them build bridges and not cheer as MNK burns them to the ground.

Onyiiobi7735:
Hmmm! That's a question I can't answer properly, but all I know is this,we Igbos don't know how to play national politics well.Moreover we are not even united in one accord on the issue.Ordinary Ohanaeze Ndigbo presidency, and we were already tearing ourselves apart,forming two opposing factions in the sociocultural group.
If Biafra should come,is that how the nation would be ruled?
Enugu man against Anambra man,Anambra against Abia,Abia against Imo.
But one thing is sure,if Biafra should come, Ebonyi would be heavily marginalised because other Igbo subgroups see them as second class.

KillIgbohoN0W:


Lest Nwafors turn Nigeria to our property like we have turned Lagos.

mrvitalis:

U can't market yourself to people who fear ,envy and are intimated by how successful you are

Grayoso:


OP, you have your answer in the response above. Other Nigerians don't like Igbos and never will as long as the average Igbo has the mindset of the douchebag above.

Nigerians tolerate you but they don't like you because of your arrogance and insultive disrespect, based on nothing and totally unwarranted, towards them.

Even a spare part hustler in Ladipo, barely getting by, will be bragging Igbos "own" Lagos.

You are tolerantly supported and allowed to thrive in Lagos in the SW and far from your barren SE enclave. Yet how do you pay back your hosts? With enmity and demeaning insult.

Meanwhile , we don't hear ingrate noise from the more than 100 ethnic groups in Lagos to include successful ones like Edos etal.

Only Igbos will be insulting Yorubas that they" "own" Lagos and have turned Yorubas to slaves in their own land when those statements are ridiculous lies any sane person should be ashamed to tell.

You won't question your folks for having such a troublemaking and offensive mindset.

Instead you start threads like this where you pretend to be the victim of discrimination.

Your thread is mischievous and indicts you as insincere because, if honest to yourself, you should know the annoying behavior of your own people that makes them difficult to like let alone support to lead other Nigerians.

We all saw what you made of the Jonathan Presidency when he is actually Ijaw. You vindictively demanded everyone else, especially Yorubas and Fulanis, be excluded, marginalised, oppressed and punished. You demanded the Presidency be used as a tool to satisfy your lust for vengeance against others.

What will you then demand if an actual Igbo is President? How can Yorubas and Fulanis, for example, ever support an Igbo to be President when you have shown your hands of ethnic bigotry and hate to them uncountable times?

SlyDev:
Igbos by default are not a political leader and administrator material. People easily overwhelmed with emotions are not to be trusted with power.

aribisala0:
Eboes have inferiority complex and com pensate for that feeling with empty and noisy boastfulness
A so called superiority complex is just the other side of the same coin.
Anyone who knows Eboes well know they do this even among themselves. Chronic jealousy, bad mouth and bad mouthing are very common and typical traits even when relating with other Eboes

hammer567:



2023, THEY HAVE NO CHOICE AND WE MUST MAKE THEM AWARE THAT 2023 IS A REFERENDUM VOTE.



THE OUTCOME OR RUN-UP EVENTS WILL RESULT IN SE EXIT FROM NIGERIA.



WE WILL NOT ALLOW ANY YORUBA OR FULANI MAN TO RULE OVER US.

sirp9898:
Biafra is the answer to Africa technology that is y yorubas and co are afraid of biafra or Igbo presidency. They are use to suffering and at the same time complaining.
Until Igbo's have their freedom Nigeria and Africa can never grow rich, not the riches of egosm but the riches of the masses.
In GOD Igbo's trust.

mrvitalis:

I don't want Igbo presidency 2023

Aufbauh:
The simple reason is that we've seen through their actions and words that they're are Democratic in nature.
They have shown over the time that they lack most of the Democratic tendencies to govern a multiethnic and multi religious country like Nigeria.

Again we don't really know what they want going by their disposition. Today it's Biafra or death, then tomorrow it's Nigeria president.

Also they are the least patriotic tribe in Nigeria to be entrusted the highest office of the nation.

TheRealestGuy:


You are repeating the same mantra that I've tackled in my OP.

If Igbos are still living and carrying out their businesses in other parts of Nigeria, even in the heavily terrorised North where they are targets of over religious zealots, isn't that proof enough that they are deeply embedded in the Nigeria project?

What is your measure of patriotism? Is it by mouthing it or actually putting systems in place to ensure that justice and meritocracy is practised in all spheres of the nation?

Your reasons aren't quite cogent man. Try again.

TheRealestGuy:


Yes I agree that some Igbos can be very boastful and is full of himself especially when he's successful.

I also agree that denigrating other ethnic groups is unacceptable and I mentioned this in another comment that this can cause disaffection (even though Igbos also received their fair share of this denigration).

However, should this be the reason for intense hate to the extent of targeting them during riots or an Oba threatening their entire existence?

Every ethnic group has a stereotype and some form of weakness or Achilles heel that others really dislike (for example I could talk about Yorubas being cunning and not standing for principles or the Idoma/Ijaws being drunks - however these are mainly stereotypesthat do not necessarily hold as truth).

Talking about ethnic bigotry, we all know that all ethnic groups in Nigeria are guilty of this and this didn't make one group refuse to vote another based off of their ethnicity alone.

The part about Jonathan's administration is pure nonsense so I won't bother to comment on it.

TheRealestGuy: