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Re: Reducing The Population Pressure On Lagos by Afam4eva(m): 7:15pm On Jun 22, 2011
The problem in Nigeria is that we concentrate everything in one city.The FG wants all the government parastatals to be located in Abuja which is not good. I think it should be spread all around Nigeria to make the population to spread.

Also, it's imperative that state governments realize that they need to carve a niche for themselves. Every state in Nigeria wants to be a commercial hub. States like Lagos, Port-harcourt, Onitsha and Aba should be left with the commercial activities. While states like Enugu, Calabar, Owerri, Abuja etc should be Nigeria's resting place. The tourism in this places should be boosted. Then our oil cities should remain PH, Warri and Yenagoa should be added to the fold. Places like Ibadan, Nsukka, Zaria should be our educational capitals. Finally our cultural centers will remain Benin, Kano. If this is done, the population will be evenly spread throughout Nigeria.
Re: Reducing The Population Pressure On Lagos by Kobojunkie: 7:29pm On Jun 22, 2011
Mariory:

Actually you don't know. You don't have a clue.

a) Ok. Thanks for the well known info.

b) You still don't have a clue do you? Try to understand the following phrase. "Lagos State is still playing catch up due to decades of neglect by previous administrations. As a result the current infrastructure is far behind the current population."

c) Why do you do it? Why do you continue to make a fool of yourself? Were you not the one that posted the following. . .
. . .Now you are trying to do an about turn and tell us the population is 7 million? In the same thread? That's seriously pathetic.


The irony is amazing!

2)[/b]Again, personal assumptions/conclusions do not equate to facts. Offering up disconnected retorts does not win you anything. It remains that population trend it not directly connected with development levels. You do not blame the lack, on the part of Government, on the population, rather you urge Government to up the pace.

[b]3)
Lagos, the STATE(population ~17 million), is NOT Lagos, the CITY(population ~ 7 million). Now go back to the State website to verify this. Or better yet consider how absurd it would be to consider a small area as NY city(population ~8 million), to all of Lagos the state when considering mega ***CITY*** status of any of the locations.
Re: Reducing The Population Pressure On Lagos by seanet02: 8:25pm On Jun 22, 2011
Anybody arguing with kobo is jobless. She is clueless almost on every issue yet she keep repeating the same crap over and over again. Sucks to be kobo.
Re: Reducing The Population Pressure On Lagos by Mariory(m): 11:37pm On Jun 22, 2011
Kobojunkie:

2)[/b]Again, personal assumptions/conclusions do not equate to facts. Offering up disconnected retorts does not win you anything. It remains that population trend it not directly connected with development levels.

Why do you keep repeating that?

Kobojunkie:

[b]3)
Lagos, the STATE(population ~17 million), is NOT Lagos, the CITY(population ~ 7 million). Now go back to the State website to verify this. Or better yet consider how absurd it would be to consider a small area as NY city(population ~8 million), to all of Lagos the state when considering mega ***CITY*** status of any of the locations.

Megacities = Urban Agglomerations --> Urban Agglomerations = a central city and neighboring communities linked to it by continuous built-up areas or commuters.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Megacity
http://www.demographia.com/db-megacity.pdf (2005)
http://www.citypopulation.de/world/Agglomerations.html (2011)
Re: Reducing The Population Pressure On Lagos by Kobojunkie: 11:51pm On Jun 22, 2011
A megacity is usually defined as a metropolitan area with a total population in excess of 10 million people.[1] Some definitions also set a minimum level for population density (at least 2,000 persons/square km).[citation needed] A megacity can be a single metropolitan area or two or more metropolitan areas that converge. The terms conurbation, metropolis and metroplex are also applied to the latter. The terms megapolis and megalopolis are sometimes used synonymously with megacity.[citation needed]


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Megacity

A simple wikipedia check would have helped!

Now, to verify the population figures, one only need to check the actual numbers quoted by the States. For instance, Population of NY CITY is 8,175,133 (http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/25/nyregion/25census.html).
Re: Reducing The Population Pressure On Lagos by olaolabiy: 11:59pm On Jun 22, 2011
Nigeria is NOT overpopulated, guys.

Lagos is NOT onerpopulated
Re: Reducing The Population Pressure On Lagos by Mariory(m): 12:00am On Jun 23, 2011
Kobojunkie:

A megacity is usually defined as a metropolitan area with a total population in excess of 10 million people.[1] Some definitions also set a minimum level for population density (at least 2,000 persons/square km).[citation needed] A megacity can be a single metropolitan area or two or more metropolitan areas that converge. The terms conurbation, metropolis and metroplex are also applied to the latter. The terms megapolis and megalopolis are sometimes used synonymously with megacity.[citation needed]


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Megacity


A simple wikipedia check would have helped!

Also from Wikipedia. . .
"A metropolitan area is a region consisting of a populous urban core with a high density of employment plus surrounding territory that is socio-economically linked to the urban core by commuting" = Urban Agglomeration --> Megacity = Lagos State
. . .You are making it to easy.

Also. . .

Re: Reducing The Population Pressure On Lagos by Kobojunkie: 12:03am On Jun 23, 2011
^^^^Here is a simple question for you. Are you suggesting that the population of NYC is 22 million and not the ~ 8 million recorded from the 2010 census?  undecided undecided undecided undecided Are we also to assume that the population of the city of Los Angeles is ~18 million as against the ~4 million number reported from the 2010 election?
Re: Reducing The Population Pressure On Lagos by Mariory(m): 12:07am On Jun 23, 2011
Kobojunkie:

^^^^Here is a simple question for you. Are you suggesting that the population of NYC is 22 million and not the ~ 8 million recorded from the 2010 census?  undecided undecided undecided undecided  Are we also to assume that the population of the city of Los Angeles is ~18 million as against the ~4 million number reported from the 2010 election?

Let me help you out because it appears you are now confusing yourself. This thread is about Lagos State. I hope that helped.
Re: Reducing The Population Pressure On Lagos by Kobojunkie: 12:13am On Jun 23, 2011
Mariory:

Let me help you out because it appears you are now confusing yourself. This thread is about Lagos State. I hope that helped.

LOL. . . you are funny.

Please, next time, at least make sure you are consulting the right source for your info. 

Anyways, for those who really care for discussing reality and not producing manufactured/unofficial evidence as fact . . .
Kobojunkie:

I know you are a do-or-die defender of Fashola, the man, and so I don't think it is in your benefit to continue these shoddy attempts, by your person, to score one for your man by pretending to dispute that which you have obviously not taken time to understand.

a) After a Census, it is Not rocket science that data collected is used to plan development for states and nation as a whole. Data from the last census, data was utilized during the last voter registration process, the elections, and even when states allocate funds(even with all the corrupt, the data is considered at some level). Even the World bank takes advantage of the same population data. So, no, use of data in developmental planning is no novel idea.

b) Population trends have always existed independent of the levels of infrastructural development. The one is not dependent on the other. That the population trend has remained about as expected for a long time now, is no rationalization for continued decay in infrastructure, and it certainly is not reason enough for why the decay cannnot be tackled at speeds possible today, compared to decades ago.

c) A megacity is a city with an official population level at at least 10 (mega) million. According to Lagos State, the City itself is not at 10 million -- if you visit the Lagos state site, you would know that the official figure still being provided is the ~7million figure out there. 

Seriously, you need to learn to READ UP ON DISCUSSIONS before you jump in at the end thinking you are the brightest in the room for that. This is the umpteenth time I am having to tell you this.

Kobojunkie:

2)[/b]personal assumptions/conclusions do not equate to facts. Offering up disconnected retorts does not win you anything. It remains that population trend it not directly connected with development levels.  You do not blame the lack, on the part of Government, on the population, rather you urge Government to up the pace.

[b]3)
Lagos, the STATE(population ~17 million), is NOT Lagos, the CITY(population ~ 7 million). Now go back to the State website to verify this. Or better yet consider how absurd it would be to consider a small area as NY city(population ~8 million), to all of Lagos the state when considering mega ***CITY*** status of any of the locations.
Re: Reducing The Population Pressure On Lagos by Mariory(m): 12:15am On Jun 23, 2011
Kobojunkie:

LOL. . . you are funny.

Please, next time, at least make sure you are consulting the right source for your info. 

Again . . .

So I see we've reached the stage where you've run out of ideas? How soon should I expect the first ROFLMAO?

Again. . .
Mariory:

Yes the population factor has always been there however, only now is Lagos using data that it has collected about the population to plan development for the State. And what's becoming clear is that there is no way the pace of development can match the pace at which the population is increasing.

The trend is not the same by the way. The population has always increased. However for decades, infrastructure development has stagnated. You must know this. Anyone over 20 years of age is aware of this. The Military dictatorships of the late 80's and the 90's screwed Lagos over big time in terms of infrastructure. There is a big gap between what Lagos State can accommodate and the population of Lagos.

Finally do you even know what a megacity is? Lagos is not dreaming of being a megacity. Lagos State is a megacity.

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