LieutGen:
Why are they returning them?

Ghostwon6511:

Why must imbeciles always deviate topics and relate every woe in Nigeria to us Edo ? Look tell your brothers to stop doing ritual killings, you don't need to mention our name while doing so or to do it in a topic about our returned artefacts.
Make your own topic and discuss with your wayward psychopath brothers who like to do ritual killings.

illicit:
Make dem check well

Oyinbo fit don rig or swap am

Archworld:


Benin is part and parcel of Nigeria, same way is Nigeria a part of Africa. Benin problem is a Nigerian problem, same way Nigerian problem is an African problem

No emotion; Some of us were born and raised in Benin before you were born.
We've seen many years and experienced many governments/leaders than you in Benin so calm down, not just by reading but by experience. And whatever I said is peculiar to Africa as a whole .

MindHacker9000:
Someone said it was the powers in the Bronze that developed Europe, so now we just need to relax and let it develop our land too. Welcome home Bronze and remember to develop our land and people too like you developed Europe.

DeepSight:


I dont think you know anything about the effects of colonialism on a people's heritage and culture.

Ghostwon6511:


1) you may believe that you are Nigerian before anything else, I do not have that belief.

2) the Edo people are not a tribe, tribes are primitif, the Edo people are a people much like the french, the Germans or the Russians, we had our own large country (Benin Kingdom) before colonisation.

3)all gods are imaginary, including those transported to our shores by your white masters, but the fact you chose to focus on our gods instead of stating that religion is a scam, that tells a lot about you and your motives.

4)No, you are not my brother, only the people of Benin empire (the Edo people) are my brother's.

5) you don't need to always quote my emperor and my king and my tradition for a general Nigerian problem. It is not my emperor, nor my tradition, nor my religion which made someone in Abeokuta kill an other person, so stop attacking us and face your problems !


.

LagacyHills:
Why is it called Okukor? Okuko in Igbo language means Chicken

Ghostwon6511:


Keep your mouth shut, I am a mathematician, who are you ? Just a slowpoke who thinks it makes him look smart to parrot British talking points about Benin looted treasures.
Parroting the whites doesn't make you smart, you need to mind your business and take Benin matters our of your venom filled tongue.

Imagine someone's kidnapped kid being returned home and a childless neighbor coming to say: " the kidnapper was right, he should keep the kid locked up, we do not appreciate the kid enough".

Just shut up guys and talk about how to worship your white masters, and talk about your inexistant ancestral treasures.

thomasjoe:


Wake up bro...
They stole them to sell them as proceeds of war...not as idols beign siezed as erenously been peddled...

chaloskyx:
and how do you morons think what they returned is the original ehen? mumu ppl

Archworld:
It's a beautiful feeling but I think the whites would value it more than us. In fact they were the ones that even made us to know such thing exist because they took care of it over the years. Whites attach values to many things . The ones that were not stolen by the whites , where are they today? I guess dust has finished them . Africa lack maintenance culture . We only begin to value things when they are stolen

brain54:

Mathematician...your comment and argument seems like it was written by an iilliterate....no offence to illiterates though.
You could have just responded to the guys argument insteadof throwing insults.

Ifeoluwav:


War they started by themselves.
When did theives start to return what was stolen and sold
They didn't only steal from Benin but from allover Africa.
They used to associate the artifacts with idol worshipping. What makes it different now?

Ghostwon6511:

You guys come here and mind our business and say offensive things which you don't understand, yet you expect civility ? I was even being extremely civil !
You need to stop your provocations instead of expecting a"good and nice response to your provocations", that is how you get punched in the face.

Frank150:
To slap this guy dey hungry me

Ghostwon6511:

I love how Benin ancestral heritage has suddenly become the belonging of every Nigerian and subject to every Nigerian's uneducated opinions.

1) these treasures belong to Benin kingdom, not to every Nigerian, and not to your "tribe" wherever you are from, these are the treasures of Benin empire !


2) Obviously they had value before the British stole them, indeed, some were decorating the palace of the Oba, some were kept in storage, some (small percentage) were decorating the palaces of Benin chiefs !


3)"the ones which weren't stolen", you seem to not understand that Benin city is not an ordinary town, what you had in Benin city is not the same as what you had in Abeokuta ! Benin city was the capital of Benin Kingdom ! Benin kingdom was a large and rich empire, it had treasures, among those treasures, you have these bronzes !
These are unique treasures, not existent elsewhere in Nigeria ! So there are no one's which weren't stolen !

4) some other Benin treasures had already been returned to the Oba of Benin in the 1930's: one of them is the traditional attire of the Oba of Benin and it is very well kept !

5) I understand that my ancestral heritage has no value to you, an alien to my culture and my ancestral country (Benin Kingdom/empire), just don't expand your ignorance by claiming to speak for me !

We, the people of Benin empire, we value our ancestral heritage and we want ot back where it belongs: into the costody of the Oba.

Ghostwon6511post=110369653:
just imagine what this ignoramus saying, but the same Ife you called village was the source to all Yoruba kingdoms include your bini kingdom, Ife initiated bini in bronze casting since Oba Eweka of bini his head buried in Ife and the Bronze sent to bini as representative.

1) learn how to quote properly
2) if you Ife have bronze then why are you here on a topic which doesn't concern you ?
Why not go on an ife bronze topic and discuss about your own bronze right there, also show your imaginary treasures to the world. Why are you on this topic ?
3) the word empire is actually not an African word, so we use it in our context to say "large kingdom" because an empire is a kingdom with more glory than the average kingdom and whose dukes are considered the equals to kings of other kingdoms and Benin fits this criteria.
4) Ife was a small village untill 1912 when the British started to urbanize it. Also the bronze of Ife are very few in numbers and most of them were dug up. Benin bronzes are several thousands and they were the furniture of the palace of the Oba of Benin when the British looted them.

5) oyo was never an empire, it was a sma kingdom which got obliterated by the Fulani, end of story for oyo. (Why do I have to always give yoruba jealous people history lessons)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rp8flCwvoAU

Ghostwon6511:

I don't know, perhaps because we are not conspiracy theorists who wish evil upon the Edo people and we recognise world bodies like those which handled the artefacts.

sotall:


Whats idol Worshipping?

Is the practice bad or good?

DatNaijaGuy:

I read this exaci comment on Facebook.
Are you sure you are not the same person that made that comment?

obanioluorun:
just imagine what this ignoramus saying, but the same Ife you called village was the source to all Yoruba kingdoms include your bini kingdom, Ife initiated bini in bronze casting since Oba Eweka of bini his head buried in Ife and the Bronze sent to bini as representative.

silverlinen:

Well said oh son of the mighty Bini blood.
OMO N'EDO PATAKI
Our treasures and ancestral artifacts should be in the land of it's existence.

Ghostwon6511:

You guys come here and mind our business and say offensive things which you don't understand, yet you expect civility ? I was even being extremely civil !
You need to stop your provocations instead of expecting a "good and nice response" to your provocations, that is how you get punched in the face.

obanioluorun:
Ife initiated bini bronze casting, since the Oba Eweka of bini kingdom, his head buried in Ife and the Bronze head sent to bini for representative.

Ghostwon6511:


1)You still don't know how to quote properly, this shows your lack of intelligence
2) I repeat, Ife was a small village untill 1912 when the British started urbanising it. I am not saying this as an insult, this is on record. It is a proven fact.
3) every story of people migrating from Ife is a myth created to elevate the status of the Oni of Ife.
4) no head of any Oba of Benin was buried in Ife and no bronze was sent to Benin from Ife. Benin royal court had its own guild which the British interrupted and which was later revived by Oba Eweka II.
5)Benin emperors were buried in the palace except for Oba Ovonramwen who was buried in Calabar.

6) The thing with you guys yoruba is that you believe you know us better than we know ourselves, your entire self-worth revolves around claims about us. Quite basically you are historical parasites. Look how you guys are flocking here out of jealousy and trying to claim Benin heritage and also promote Ife myths on this topic which has nothing to do with you.