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Re: China Says The West Should Address Russia's "Legitimate Security Demands" by ObamaMessi: 10:36pm On Feb 27, 2022
PrinceMajestic:
Pls let's talk about our own problems about to loom b4 or after 2023, na that one concern us pas. Leave those crazy white people to fhuck themselves
Wetin carry u come here?
Re: China Says The West Should Address Russia's "Legitimate Security Demands" by Originalsly: 10:39pm On Feb 27, 2022
Truthisunique2:


If Ukraine is a sovereign state then it has its right to determine who it alligns with


Isn't Cuba a sovereign state? ... and Venezuela? Then why either doesn't have the right to determine who it aligns with? This where the hypocrisy begins.
Re: China Says The West Should Address Russia's "Legitimate Security Demands" by Elianawalker(f): 11:14pm On Feb 27, 2022
complexBoss12:
It's a pity that the people of Ukraine will be sacrificed for a new world order. As I said in my previous post few days ago, Putin would rather see an end to the world than end like Hitler, and just today, he put nuclear weapons on alert over sanctions.

Putin ain't playing by any rules.

Ukrainian President thinks it sounds good to "die a hero" But I will tell you guys for free "there is nothing heroic about death". If you have watched someone die, it's painful and inglorious.

Recognizing that someone is stronger than you is not a sign of weakness but strength. The president of Ukraine is being used as a pawn, in a game that is bigger him. He is sacrificing his people for stupid pride. It's a natural the weak, will be a subject to the strong. Talk to Putin, negotiate. mind you that, Russia hasn't even started war, they are more less playing the deplomatic game of threatening you to come for negotiation, if they decide to end Ukraine in 24 hours it will be done.

You can still quote me and talk rubbish, but sentiment don't win wars. I am being practical here. In international politics, once deplomacy fails, people get hurt.
nice one
Re: China Says The West Should Address Russia's "Legitimate Security Demands" by ObamaMessi: 11:19pm On Feb 27, 2022
shogsman:

Typical mumu,you think say china na Iraq,they will sanction someone that has a bigger economy than them, someone they depend on for a living
Actually, you're the mumt here.

(1)How's China economy biger than that of U.S?

(2)How do America rely on China for a living?

(3)Do you know how many sanctions the U.S imposed on China?

(3)Do you know what sanction means?

You seem to be uneducated and you're not making any sign.
Re: China Says The West Should Address Russia's "Legitimate Security Demands" by tellmemore15: 11:25pm On Feb 27, 2022
pansophist:
Finally, a country that is making sense.

The US has bombed at least two hundred countries spreading their hegemony, but they are termed ''liberation, freedom, fight against evil, defend of democracy'' etc. Because ''you can'' doesn't mean ''you should'' join nato, if not, Iran should not be sanctioned to death because it want to create nuclear weapons, and the US should not have almost nuked Cuba when Russia placed its missiles there in the '60s. Right now, Cuba is still under the heaviest sanctions for so many decades. Why the double standards?

I don't want to live in a world where the rule that applies to one, is used to punish the other. Sadly, lots of zombies are happy in such kind of world. Only the ''power of media'' Russia doesn't have, that is why it seems like everyone is sympathetic to Ukrainians. How about the thousands of ethnic Russians Ukraine have killed in Donbas? The west ignored all these because they want to use Ukraine as a pawn to contain Russia. And after Russia, probably China, and then, the whole world will permanently be chained under western hegemony. If you think colonialism was bad, you haven't seen anything yet. Just pray that day never comes. As an example, 8 out of every Nigerians (even Africans and the third world) rely on China for loans, cheap phones, and manufacturing. If they go down, how can you survive?

This is about the survival of Russia as a country and humanity as a whole because when it comes to survival, international law can go to hell. You should be alive first, before talking about the law. The security of and existence of Russia have to be guaranteed before it can grow economically. What's the point of letting NATO in your backyard, and even if you develop like Norway, you can be nuked within ten mins, making it impossible to defend and retaliate? be careful when you support the west. This is a fight against evil.

the US was more focused on Russia during the Cuba crises not on Cuba. Russia should fight NATO or US if they are not comfortable with Ukraine joining Nato.
Re: China Says The West Should Address Russia's "Legitimate Security Demands" by Jackanda1(m): 11:28pm On Feb 27, 2022
ednut1:
but will usa allow Russia or china place weapons in Mexico or cuba Google cuban missile crisis. Una go just dey open mouth like muntula
When did US place missles in Ukraine?
Re: China Says The West Should Address Russia's "Legitimate Security Demands" by ednut1(m): 12:00am On Feb 28, 2022
Jackanda1:
When did US place missles in Ukraine?
the process for Ukraine to join nato was still in progress na.
Re: China Says The West Should Address Russia's "Legitimate Security Demands" by MT: 1:53am On Feb 28, 2022
shogsman:

Typical mumu,you think say china na Iraq,they will sanction someone that has a bigger economy than them, someone they depend on for a living

You came to a public forum to disgrace your ancestors. China economy bigger than US economy? Oh my world. I find it discomforting that I share the same nationality with some unchained apes, who hide behind internet to say thrash. China that the world is projecting that it COULD overtake US economy by 2030, which means it has not. You are an ignoramus.

Read this if you have any brain cells yet to comprehend it:
https://www.voanews.com/a/chinas-economy-could-overtake-us-economy-by-2030/6380892.html
Re: China Says The West Should Address Russia's "Legitimate Security Demands" by Cousin9999: 4:02am On Feb 28, 2022
They need to be quiet before their card gets blocked too.
Re: China Says The West Should Address Russia's "Legitimate Security Demands" by Karnice600: 5:23am On Feb 28, 2022
Oghene1st:
Beijing believes the West should address Moscow’s “legitimate security demands”


https://www.rt.com/news/550748-china-sanctions-dont-work/

Rubbish.
Re: China Says The West Should Address Russia's "Legitimate Security Demands" by Karnice600: 5:26am On Feb 28, 2022
Rugaria:
It is time for the developing nations to immediately find alternative to SWIFT and all other finance regulations that depend almost totally on these belligerent western imperialists for control. The world was created free and shouldn't revolve eternally around the dictates of colonialists and imperialists..The west has now enjoyed almost 200 years of total global domination of affairs. We need a change, since all they care about is their interests and people..

Wait for ISIS to create hers. That would serve your best interest, I believe.
Re: China Says The West Should Address Russia's "Legitimate Security Demands" by Karnice600: 5:28am On Feb 28, 2022
HenryDion:
China is still neutral until it escalates to a nuclear war. Then you'll see them joining with Russia to finally annihilate the west.

A few hours ago North Korea launched a ballistic missile as a test. What was the point? I don't know. A show of power?

If this end with one nuclear launch, the world will never remain the same again.
Another wreckless talk.
Re: China Says The West Should Address Russia's "Legitimate Security Demands" by caracas: 6:20am On Feb 28, 2022
pansophist:
Finally, a country that is making sense.

The US has bombed at least two hundred countries spreading their hegemony, but they are termed ''liberation, freedom, fight against evil, defend of democracy'' etc. Because ''you can'' doesn't mean ''you should'' join nato, if not, Iran should not be sanctioned to death because it want to create nuclear weapons, and the US should not have almost nuked Cuba when Russia placed its missiles there in the '60s. Right now, Cuba is still under the heaviest sanctions for so many decades. Why the double standards?

I don't want to live in a world where the rule that applies to one, is used to punish the other. Sadly, lots of zombies are happy in such kind of world. Only the ''power of media'' Russia doesn't have, that is why it seems like everyone is sympathetic to Ukrainians. How about the thousands of ethnic Russians Ukraine have killed in Donbas? The west ignored all these because they want to use Ukraine as a pawn to contain Russia. And after Russia, probably China, and then, the whole world will permanently be chained under western hegemony. If you think colonialism was bad, you haven't seen anything yet. Just pray that day never comes. As an example, 8 out of every Nigerians (even Africans and the third world) rely on China for loans, cheap phones, and manufacturing. If they go down, how can you survive?

This is about the survival of Russia as a country and humanity as a whole because when it comes to survival, international law can go to hell. You should be alive first, before talking about the law. The security of and existence of Russia have to be guaranteed before it can grow economically. What's the point of letting NATO in your backyard, and even if you develop like Norway, you can be nuked within ten mins, making it impossible to defend and retaliate? be careful when you support the west. This is a fight against evil.
Don’t think av ever read a post more biased, stewpid, dumb and misinformed…….
All I would say to you is to thank your stars every day that the US n the west are in the position that they are , cos if the tables were turned, Russia or china would have destroyed the world with communist mentality……
Re: China Says The West Should Address Russia's "Legitimate Security Demands" by Jackanda1(m): 7:53am On Feb 28, 2022
ednut1:
the process for Ukraine to join nato was still in progress na.
if the west wanted Ukraine in NATO, it would have happened long ago. America kept ukraine in the fence for fear of Russia.
It's unfortunate Putin got emotional grin
Re: China Says The West Should Address Russia's "Legitimate Security Demands" by Nobody: 8:02am On Feb 28, 2022
Jackanda1:
if the west wanted Ukraine in NATO, it would have happened long ago. America kept ukraine in the fence for fear of Russia.
It's unfortunate Putin got emotional grin

Joining NATO costs a lot of money actually. You have to reform and rejig your army to meet NATO standards (quite high)...and even then, it is not guaranteed.

The Ukrainian army was before this current conflict, in a bad state really. That they are fighting the russians well is because they are fighting for their homeland...otherwise, they would have been beaten ages ago.
Re: China Says The West Should Address Russia's "Legitimate Security Demands" by Billygee2u: 9:48am On Feb 28, 2022
Truthisunique2:
grin grin Putin don dey beg China to speak Against sanction on his behalf

If Ukraine is a sovereign state then it has its right to determine who it alligns with

Swallow your pride and woo Ukraine, everything no be force
Re: China Says The West Should Address Russia's "Legitimate Security Demands" by shiwex: 9:51am On Feb 28, 2022
Truthisunique2:
grin grin Putin don dey beg China to speak Against sanction on his behalf

If Ukraine is a sovereign state then it has its right to determine who it alligns with

Swallow your pride and woo Ukraine, everything no be force
So is Cuba and US will not allow missiles there why?
Re: China Says The West Should Address Russia's "Legitimate Security Demands" by shiwex: 9:54am On Feb 28, 2022
PHIPEX:
So Ukraine has no right to determine where to align? What then is the essence of sovereignty if smaller countries must take permission from bigger countries before they make their own internal decision.
you can say the same about Cuba. It aligned with Russia and it was sanctioned. still sanctioned up to today. Are you saying it does not have the right to choose who it aligns with as well?
Re: China Says The West Should Address Russia's "Legitimate Security Demands" by Codedrock(m): 11:59am On Mar 03, 2022
Najdorf:

US/Russia/Ukraine none of this countries are saints with clean history but you have to understand that this invasion on the basis of "self defense" makes no sense.

Ukraine CAN NOT join NATO.

And it has been like that for the past 8 or so years. Ukraine can't even join EU anytime soon. Russia already killed Ukraine's plan of joining NATO in 2014 by starting the disputes in Crimea that they have fueled ever since then. For a country to join NATO you need a lot of things, one of them is being free of border disputes.

Now I ask you, seeing that Ukraine is far far from joining NATO or EU, what then is the justification of this invasion?
I don't know where you got this your nonsense information from but it is obvious Ukraine wants to join Eu and Nato and they were close on making a deal last year the deal was going to close this year, it was why Putin made his move.. They've planned to take Crimea back with the help of Nato

I see Seun shared this post of course he will, the United States and European countries are always right to you people

WATCH a recent video of Putin, zelensky and macron


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CWfQjE7IIbI

Cc: princedapace
Re: China Says The West Should Address Russia's "Legitimate Security Demands" by Najdorf: 1:28pm On Mar 03, 2022
Codedrock:

I don't know where you got this your nonsense information from but it is obvious Ukraine wants to join Eu and Nato and they were close on making a deal last year the deal was going to close this year, it was why Putin made his move.. They've planned to take Crimea back with the help of Nato

I see Seun shared this post of course he will, the United States and European countries are always right to you people

WATCH a recent video of Putin, zelensky and macron


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CWfQjE7IIbI

Cc: princedapace
Go and do your research properly. I never mentioned Ukraine not wanting to join them. There was no deal last year that they were close to.

There's nothing like taking Crimea back with the help of NATO. NATO does not allow nations having conflicts to join and as such they can not interfere with whatever happens in Crimea.

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