Kai don't say that loud, they won't like to hear that ooo

drnoel: Kai don't say that loud, they won't like to hear that ooo

What do you think I'm trying to do?
I'm shouting it out so loud that I feel its not loud enough for their dumb ears to pick up the sound!
Where are my amplifiers?..........

Why can't you People leave us alone?! Is it by force??!!

petaling: SE stop all these Rivers this Rivers that! Be on your own, you have everything you need. You have oil in ABIA and Imo. You have large Gas reserve in Anambra and Enugu. You have large coal reserve in Enugu and part of Abia. You have PRODA in Enugu, the reserch institute that manufactured arms and ammunition and rocket during biafran war. Why cant you re-enact the technological feat attained in the 60"s. You have intellectual capacity, Your own daughter is MD world Bank, VP world bank. You have up 3000 medical doctors in Atlanta alone, busy now i will come back

Thank you!! Why can't they just let us be.

Van snickers:

Thank you!! Why can't they just let us be.

A mad man Musiwa will open a rubbish thread and you guys will be all out to start fighting for nothing. Rivers State is not Southeast and Southeasterners ain't claiming it one bit. Its a multi-ethnic State like Delta and is in South-south. So why the fight?

Van snickers: Why can't you People leave us alone?! Is it by force??!!

You people, who are they?.

You mean iboz are still dreaming of forcefully co-opting other people to become part of ibo BY FORCE?? Na wah o! They said NO, is it by force? Okay, you can go and carry the land on your head and bring it to your ibo land. Kapish

Dont they already own 99% of Rivers States, 97% of Lagos and 100% of Abuja

Andre Uweh:
You people, who are they?.

You know yourselves.

Van snickers:

You know yourselves.

He meant to ask you what the name of your ethnic group is.

At the end of the day this is really what they want. I cannot for the life of me understand the underlying envy and covetousness that drives these people when they even hear the name Rivers state.

CyberG: You mean iboz are still dreaming of forcefully co-opting other people to become part of ibo BY FORCE?? Na wah o! They said NO, is it by force? Okay, you can go and carry the land on your head and bring it to your ibo land. Kapish

The Igbos of Rivers State are minority so the state can not be part of the East. However, The Igbos of the state can either merge with their other Igbo states or have a state of their own and be part of the South East.. In this case, Obio Akpor, Omuma, Etche , Ikwere, EMOHUA, Ahoada East , Oyigbo and Ogba Egbema CAN EITHER OPT OUT if they want. The rest would remain Rivers state and the True Rivers state.. Including, Okrika, Ogu,Tai, Khana, Gokhana, Eleme, Akuku, ASARI,BONNY, OPOBO Nkoro, Andoni, Degema, Abua odual , Ahoada West and Port Harcourt.

Please the Ikwerre should be left alone; Sometimes you need to leave some issue alone to sort themselves.

killayut: The Igbos of Rivers State are minority so the state can not be part of the East. However, The Igbos of the state can either merge with their other Igbo states or have a state of their own and be part of the South East.. In this case, Obio Akpor, Omuma, Etche , Ikwere, EMOHUA, Ahoada East , Oyigbo and Ogba Egbema CAN EITHER OPT OUT if they want. The rest would remain Rivers state and the True Rivers state.. Including, Okrika, Ogu,Tai, Khana, Gokhana, Eleme, Akuku, ASARI,BONNY, OPOBO Nkoro, Andoni, Degema, Abua odual , Ahoada West and Port Harcourt.

@bolded. You should have just written Borokiri/Old town and Abuloma if your reason is based on ethnicity. But why are you so keen on dividing Rivers State? Are you aware of the possible crisis that could erupt? Like I've always said Rivers State should be left intact and the component ethnic groups remain numerous and related to Ijaw, Ogoni, Igbo, Ibibio and Edoid.

Abagworo:

@bolded. You should have just written Borokiri/Old town and Abuloma if your reason is based on ethnicity. But why are you so keen on dividing Rivers State? Are you aware of the possible crisis that could erupt? Like I've always said Rivers State should be left intact and the component ethnic groups remain numerous and related to Ijaw, Ogoni, Igbo, Ibibio and Edoid.

This is Port Harcourt satelite map...



Would you call Nekede New Owerri or call Oba New Onitsha or even Call obosi new Onitsha ? One day you guys will call ABA PORT HARCOURT ? ALL THE SETTLEMENTS in OBIO AKPOR were existing before Europeans came to Nigeria and Port Harcourt was created in 1912. The road that linked Port harcourt to the Ikwere towns in present Obio Akpor was the OWERRI ROAD WHICH WAS CHANGED TO IKWERE ROAD.. . Then Diobu was created as a satelite town.. All the rumu in Obio Akpor were Igbo families farm land turned towns and settled by different people.. There are no natives in them. Therefore such neighborhood like Rumubiakana was umubiakani , Rumumasi was umumasi and so on. There were no natives there cos the places were farm land for Igbo migrants just as Igbos would have farmland in Kaduna and KANO. iF YOU DO NOT KNOW ABOUT A PLACE do not argue about it. That was why all the old secondary schools were in PORT HARCOURT.. ENITONNA, BAPTIST , STELLA MARIS and so on.. ABULOMA was just like a fishing port and the only thing there was the federal govt girls col which was in the forest and not at a town.The Old GRA was European quarters and the UTC road today was the only link road linking Port Harcourt and Diobu.. Do not be arguing about other peoples places.. DEVELOPMENT IS GOING EVERY WHERE AND TODAY even ELEME, CHOBA, OKRIKA, IGWURUTA are bearing the name PORT Harcourt. soon ELELE AND Isiokpo will also bear Port Harcourt..

Some of you Igbos make people hate you by how you blindly and stupidly argue about things.. IDIOT... DID YOU KNOW WHEN KALABARI AND OKRIKA fought over ISAKA in Port Harcourt ?What else was PORT Harcourt..Even when I was in Comprehensive Borikiri we still refered to ENEKA and ELELENWA as Villages and not even close to Port Harcourt..

Back then peeps else where would say Town which is the short form of Port Harcourt town... Instead of saying Port Harcourt town it was shortened to Town..

Abagworo:

@bolded. You should have just written Borokiri/Old town and Abuloma if your reason is based on ethnicity. But why are you so keen on dividing Rivers State? Are you aware of the possible crisis that could erupt? Like I've always said Rivers State should be left intact and the component ethnic groups remain numerous and related to Ijaw, Ogoni, Igbo, Ibibio and Edoid.

This is PH SATELITE MAP..

ak47mann: Ijaw people can they live with igbo s? why am asking i just spoke to my cousin in onitsha he was telling me about one technical school in onitsha were government send ijaw boys to learn/train them and on top of that they get over 150.000k a month allowance, that one young ijaw boy blows his allowance in less than two weeks and he will go back to demand for next month pay, when the accounting department refused to give him what he demanded for, there will be problem, the boy started shouting at them causing trouble they ended up giving him his allowance, he said that people are scared of them am now thinking is not a good idea for us to join rivers state

mean while minimum wage for common man NA 18k a month and some state is complaining already that they cant afford it,

Guy must u comment?

Can somebody educate us on the history of the Ikweres and the Aniomas.How did they migrate to their present abode? Then we can take the argument from there.

We Are Not Igbo..........

A Brief History Of The Ikwerre People.

Chambers Dictionary (William Geddie, ed. 1962) says: “A nation is a
body of people marked off by common descent, language, culture, or
historical tradition: the people of a tribe.” However, S.O.L.
Amadi-Nna (1993) avers that: “A tribe is a group of clans under
recognized chiefs and usually claiming common ancestry. Ikwerre can
therefore not be a clan but a tribe. The Ikwerres claim a common
ancestor. Ikwerre is an independent small tribe.” In the words of K.O.
Amadi (1993), “Traditions suggest that Ikwerre is a nickname given to
Iwhnuruọhna people…..They have ever since regarded themselves as a
distinct group and have happily come a long way in their struggle for
self-identity as evidenced by the recognition of their language as one
of the Nigerian languages.” Amadi-Nna (1993) added that: “The Ikwerres
are a small but distinct tribe. The Ikwerres have distinct linguistic,
social and cultural traits and formations that distinguish them from
other close neighbouring tribes like the Ijaws and the Ibos. Majority
of the Ikwerre settlements have their roots traceable from the old
Benin Empire.” Iwhnurọhna people descended from the ancient Bini
Kingdom. The name of the grand ancestor is Akalaka. Their relations in
Rivers State are Ekpeye and Ogba people. The reigning Oba of Benin
when Akalaka, the ancestor of Ihru ọ ha (later called Iwhnurọ hna)
fled was Oba Ewuare (Ogwaro). Akalaka, a member of the Benin royal
family, fled in the 13 th century on allegation of plotting
assassination of the Oba. He died in 1462. Iwhnurọ hna his third son
settled east of the Sombrero River by 1538 AD, as detailed below.
Chief N.M.T. Solomon (2004), native of Ikodu Ubie in Ekpeyeland, in
his narrative draws heavily from the now authenticated written
historical records delivered by various informed sources including
“Eketu (Weber) of Ubeta, assumed to have lived for over two hundred
(200) years as the oldest man in all Ekpeye, Ogba and Iwhnurọ hna (or
Ikwerre), at that time (and) was asked to narrate the history and
customs of Ekpeye people” as unfolded in his lifetime. Here is what he
said, which has been validated by the accounts of the current
generation through responses to our questionnaires and direct
interviews thereby increasing our level of confidence on the data:
Ekpeye, born in Benin, was the first of the three sons of Akalaka.
While in Ndoni, he married a second wife to gain the love and favour
of the people. The new wife gave birth to a son, which he named Ogba.
Akalaka was still in Ndoni when his first wife, the mother of Ekpeye,
gave birth to his third son called Ihruoha (Ikwerre) . Similar
historical fact by J.N. Olise (1971) averred that: “Akalaka, a member
of the Benin royal family, fled with his wife from Benin to Ndoni, a
community located close to the River Niger, to save the life of his
new born baby (Ekpeye) … While at Ndoni, Akalaka took a second wife. …
Akalaka had two sons, Ekpeye – born to him by his Benin wife, and Ogba
– born to him by his Ndoni wife. According to F.E. Otuwarikpo (1994):
"After the death of Akalaka in 1462 AD, his two sons, Ekpeye and Ogba
had conflict, which compelled Ogba, the younger son, to move
northwards where he founded Ohiakwo (Obigwe) and settled with his
family. Ekpeye who remained at Ula-Ubie had seven sons – Ubie, Akoh,
Upata, Igbuduya, Ekpe, Awala and Asa. The last three sons – Ekpe,
Awala and Asa – crossed to the other side of Sombreiro River (present
day Ikwerreland and settled there since 1538 AD.” He added that: “Ekpe
migrated to present day Rumuekpe and spread through Elele (Alimini),
Ndele, Rumuji and part of Ibaa. Awala migrated to present day Isiokpo
…” Amadi-Nna (1993) also said Akalaka migrated with his half brother
called Ochichi from the area of Benin Empire. Ochichi sons were Ele
(Omerele, now Elele), Elu (Elumuoha, now Omerelu), Egbe (Egbeda) and
Mini (Alimini, Isiokpo). The crucial point here, which is of great
importance in tracing the joint origin of the ancestors of the Old
Ahoada Division (in the Governor Diete-Spiff administration), is the
mention of the number of children that Akalaka had, namely: Ekpeye,
Ogba and Ihruọ ha (Ikwerre). It is noteworthy that the pedigree and
name of Ikwerre people, Iwhnurọ hna, obviously took its root from this
original name – Ihru ọ ha. Chief Solomon therefore establishes a very
vital historical link, which has been missing in literature on Ikwerre
origin that would assume more significance in the discourses of
Ikwerre genealogy in the future – the fact that Akalaka was the direct
father of Ihruọ ha (Ikwerre). Iwhnurọ hna, in Ikwere parlance, means
the face of the community (town, city or village). Nigerian colonial
history records that the name "Ikwerre" was given by the colonial
administration when they wanted to acquire the Rebisi waterfront to
build the wharf. Using an Ibo interpreter to talk to the illiterate
Rebisi (Port Harcourt) chiefs, they asked them: Would you permit us to
use the waterfront to build the wharf for ships to berth? And they
answered: A KWERULEM , meaning - "We have agreed." What the white-man
was hearing was "Ikwerre," so he recorded it in the official gazette
that the IKWERRE PEOPLE have agreed for the colonial administration to
build the wharf. And since it was the official record of government,
the name Ikwerre became the name of the Iwhnurohna people in all
official documentations till date. Similar cases of Anglicization of
native names in the Niger Delta region by the colonial administration
are Benin for Bini, Okrika for Wakrike, Degema for Udekema, Abonnema
for Obonoma, Brass for Gbara sni, Bonny for Ibani, Pepple for
Perekule, Ahoada for Ehuda, etc Even so, “… there were dissenting
voices, … who believed that Ikwerre origins lay outside Igbo land, …
in the Benin Kingdom of old. It is, therefore, obvious that the
interminable debate about Ikwerre origins and migrations including the
repudiation of the Igbo tradition is not a phenomenon of the
post-civil war period. The controversy, as it were, is not necessarily
the product of the present political realities wherein groups which
hitherto were seen to have cultural affinities now find themselves in
different states or administrative systems.” -- K.O. Amadi (1993) The
Ogbakor Ikwerre Convention, a cultural organization of Ikwerre people,
in a paper presented to the Human Rights Violation Commission headed
by Rtd. Justice Chukwudifu Oputa on 10 October 2001, said: “Ikwerre
ethnic nationality is not and has never been a sub-group of any other
tribe in Nigeria including Ndi-Igbo. There is no doubt that the advent
of the British and later regionalization put Ndi-Igbo at the helm of
affairs in Eastern Nigeria. This brought Ndi-Igbo into Ikwerre land.
In course of time, the Igbo took advantage of their position in the
then Eastern Regional Government to grab land in Ikwerre and occupy
political positions such as the mayor of Port Harcourt. In the
process, Ikwerre along with other minority groups were marginalized
and driven to the background.” Professor Godwin Tasie noted that in
1913 the Rt Rev Herbert Tugwell, the Anglican Bishop on the Niger,
undertook an experimentation tour of Ikwerre towns and villages
assumed to be Ibo-speaking to test the Union Ibo Bible Nso being
introduced in Iboland. "Tugwell discovered from the tests he carried
out that although the Ikwerre were often regarded as Ibo… the Union
Ibo Bible translation, surprisingly, was not easily understood by the
Ikwere." This is obviously why Igbo vernacular was compulsorily
introduced and taught in all schools in Ikwerreland before the
Nigerian Civil War to the assimilation (i.e. destruction) of the
Ikwere language. This also obviously led to the Rumuomasi Declaration
in 1965. " … in their meeting at Rumuomasi in 1965 the Ikwerre had,
under the umbrella of a highly promising new body that was to get the
Ikwerre together as a people of new and clearer vision, they had
declared themselves as a people of the distinct identity of Ikwerre
Ethnic Nationality - not Ibo, not Ijo, not anything else but Ikwerre,
Iwhnur ọ hna. This was the historic Rumuomasi Declaration of 1965
(G.O.M. Tasie, 2000). The full implication is that Ikwere people began
to assert themselves forcefully as an ethnic nationality of their own
and not Ibos or Ijos, and efforts were made to revert to the original
Ikwere names for families, villages, communities and landmarks. For
instance, there was the change from Umuola to Rumuola , Umuoro to
Rumuoro, Umukrushi to Rumuokwurusi, just to name a few. T O N Y E N Y
I A, PhD, MNIM CHAIRMAN, BOARD OF TRUSTEES IWHNURỌHNA CHRISTIAN
ASSOCIATION Saturday, 5 February 2011 References: Olise, J.N. (1971)
The Peoples of Benin , Oxford University Press Amadi, K.O. (1993)
Amadi- Nna,S.O. L.(1993) Otuwari kpo, F.E. (1994) Studies in Ikwerre
History and Culture , in Nduka, O. (ed) (1993) Craft Publishing Ltd
Studies in Ikwerre History and Culture , in Nduka, O. (ed) (1993)
Craft Publishing Ltd The Phonology of Ekpeye: A Descriptive Analysis ,
unpublished MA Thesis, University of Jos Solomon , N.M.T. (2004) A
Short History of Ekpeye People (an excerpt from an upcoming book
entitled “THE EKPEYE BOOK – A Comprehensive Guide in the History and
Culture of Ekpeye People of the Niger Delta Region in Nigeria”
published by Usama Ekpeye USA Inc, Tasie, G.O.M. (2000) Chairman's
Opening Remarks at the Maiden Ikwerre Annual Thanksgiving Day, mimeo
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foolish thieves, land grabbers, stupid people.

Una no d tire?
Just d dig up Igbo threads.
Anything Igbo d sell for dis site ooo.

The whole thing tire me

50 % of rivers are igbo. Ikwerre etche ekpeye ogba and ndoni. Ikwere and ekpeye land is on the same longitude as ukwaland in abia. In precolonial times their shared the same religion as se igbo, the shrines are still there in etcheland today.

Ikwerre ppl are not Igbo's b4 u come up with ur write up do a proper research. Please correct ur write up. who are Igbo's ?

pkumase:
Ikwerre ppl are not Igbo's b4 u come up with ur write up do a proper research. Please correct ur write up. who are Igbo's ?

So are you saying that Ikwerre people are Bini decedants like a previous poster said?

You sound like a generous person who wish to have powers to dash out States to anyone who desire such.
Keep it up sir.

Calculia:


There are other interest we have to consider for the moment (short run). In the long run naturally States like Rivers and Delta will be brought into the fold but for now lets go after other interest in the North central. i.e Benue.  There are Igbo speaking parts that need to be brought into the fold urgently. Cross Rivers also have Igbo speaking parts and am sure the Efik could do with an additional state.

The offsprings will be Efik if their fathers were efik and mothers Igbo but they will be igbos if their fathers were igbos and mothers efik.
Igbo irredentists need to understand and acknowledge that migrations during precolonial times were in both directions and today, there are non-igbos that have Igbo ancestry as well as igbos with Ikwerre, Edo, Igala, Idoma, Efik, Ijaw and Ibibio ancestries.

Calculia:
^^Ok! Who are the ibibios den? Where did dey come from? Are dey Efik and how come they are many in Akwa Ibom  and the Efik in Croos River? The Igbo's  mainly traded by the coast with the fishing community and were not known for fishing and I am sure we inter-married with the Efik at some point. What happened to the offspring of that union or culture, becos it won't be Igbo today.