LordReed:


LoLz! Yeah I a Nigerian with no astronautics training flew a spacecraft to planets no human being has stepped foot on. Bwahahahahaha! If that is how you want to interpret my statement then I can't help you, sorry. LMAO!

You don't get it. You're not an astronaut, and you've never been to space. What confidence made you use the collective pronoun 'we' in your statement?

MFGCooperative:


You don't get it. You're not an astronaut, and you've never been to space. What confidence made you use the collective pronoun 'we' in your statement?

We refers to our collective humanity. Even though great achievements are made by individuals it is attributed to humanity when speaking in general terms.

MFGCooperative:


Whatever your confidence is based on is your source of faith because each time you step out to do those things, there's no guarantee that your experiences would always be the same.

Exactly, if I believed then I would be assuming it was guaranteed it will always happen.

You didn't answer my question, do you think belief is a bad thing?

LordReed:


Exactly, which is why I do not believe that the outcomes will be favourable because I know the conditions may change.

Experience produces a concrete basis on which to direct future actions. The mechanic apprentice gaining experience is not working based on hope nor is he working by faith.

Depends, life is not an exact science. Your apprentice friend might be about giving up but just carrying on in hope and faith.

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Depends, life is not an exact science. Your apprentice friend might be about giving up but just carrying on in hope and faith.

That is different. The experience he gains from the master is not hope and faith.

LordReed:


That is different. The experience he gains from the master is not hope and faith.

It is hinged.

Image123:


It is hinged.

What does that mean?

LordReed:


What does that mean?

It is connected. Without his hope and faith, the experience may not even come.

Image123:


It is connected. Without his hope and faith, the experience may not even come.

I guess you could say that.

LordReed:


Exactly, if I believed then I would be assuming it was guaranteed it will always happen.

You didn't answer my question, do you think belief is a bad thing?

I am the one who should ask you this question because I'm the one who believes. You're the one who doesn't. To me, belief is a good thing. That's the only way we can interact with the unseen realm.

LordReed:


We refers to our collective humanity. Even though great achievements are made by individuals it is attributed to humanity when speaking in general terms.

That means even though you've not been there yourself, you already see yourself there. You believe it's all real. Isn't it?

MFGCooperative:


That means even though you've not been there yourself, you already see yourself there. You believe it's all real. Isn't it?

No. It means I acknowledge that the feat was accomplished by human beings and I acknowledge that it was a real event or occurrence not that I was personally there or I imagine myself there.

MFGCooperative:


I am the one who should ask you this question because I'm the one who believes. You're the one who doesn't. To me, belief is a good thing.

Reread the first post of mine you responded to for that answer.

That's the only way we can interact with the unseen realm.

Then what has it to do with the things you are trying to shoehorn into belief?

LordReed:


Reread the first post of mine you responded to for that answer.



Then what has it to do with the things you are trying to shoehorn into belief?

You said you can't believe anything you don't see in reality. So, I'm telling you that you're already living by believing.

LordReed:


No. It means I acknowledge that the feat was accomplished by human beings and I acknowledge that it was a real event or occurrence not that I was personally there or I imagine myself there.

That's what I'm saying. We're saying the same thing. That acknowledgement is faith in a place to which you've never been.

MFGCooperative:


That's what I'm saying. We're saying the same thing. That acknowledgement is faith in a place to which you've never been.

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You've already said faith is for investigating unseen realms I dunno why you are bringing it in here again. The evidence that we went to another planet via spacecraft is not some unseen realms bullshit, it is physical and can be seen with your own eyes. You faith bullshit is unnecessary here.

MFGCooperative:


You said you can't believe anything you don't see in reality. So, I'm telling you that you're already living by believing.

Please, I am done with that nonsense, believe whatever you want.

LordReed:
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You've already said faith is for investigating unseen realms I dunno why you are bringing it in here again. The evidence that we went to another planet via spacecraft is not some unseen realms bullshit, it is physical and can be seen with your own eyes. You faith bullshit is unnecessary here.

Man, have you seen all those planets you're claiming to have seen? How are you sure that those things you're claiming to have seen are really planets and not stars?

MFGCooperative:


Man, have you seen all those planets you're claiming to have seen? How are you sure that those things you're claiming to have seen are really planets and not stars?

LoLz! What do you think planets look like from far away? Oga the evidence is available for you to see. Keep dribbling yourself and don't produce the evidence for your spirit realm, your tactic is clear enough.

LordReed:


LoLz! What do you think planets look like from far away? Oga the evidence is available for you to see. Keep dribbling yourself and don't produce the evidence for your spirit realm, your tactic is clear enough.

Is that all you have to say?

Who told you those things you see are planets? You've never been on any of them, yet you believe every single thing they said about them.

MFGCooperative:


Is that all you have to say?

Who told you those things you see are planets? You've never been on any of them, yet you believe every single thing they said about them.

LoLz! Keep dribbling yourself and don't provide the evidence for spirit realm, you are masking your inability with all these garbled questions. I am not answering any more of your questions since you can't do the simple courtesy of answering mine.

LordReed:


LoLz! Keep dribbling yourself and don't provide the evidence for spirit realm, you are masking your inability with all these garbled questions. I am not answering any more of your questions since you can't do the simple courtesy of answering mine.

The evidences are all around you. But spiritual blindness is as real as physical blindness.

MFGCooperative:


The evidences are all around you. But spiritual blindness is as real as physical blindness.

Yeah sure. That's why you went on a rigmarole. LMFAO!