ayoncox:


Obviously, that of God will outweigh the so called drivers and sellers statistics, because we will be diving into full scale multi millennials weights of his mighty works.
But in the short term, I have seen him heal the sick, change Genotypes from SS to AS and AA, do miracles that atheistic and gnostic scientists could not comprehend.
HIV POSITIVE become NEGATIVES, healed various incurable diseases healed confirmed by medical personnels

ayoncox:

I don't have any evidences to present to you just as there are no evidences that proves that other planets exist.
When we pass away from this earth we will all know whether God exists or not, but as for me I have chosen to believe he does and that Jesus is the only way to him, it is my choice of believe no need for explanation.

LordReed:


This is funny. Your first post said you had no evidence



So what are we to accept, you have evidence or you don't have evidence?

elated177:


What have you learnt so far?

LordReed:


Why are you asking me?

elated177:



Isn't that why you started the thread?

LordReed:


So how is it any of your business?

elated177:




How is it not any of my business?

LordReed:


That's left for you to answer.

elated177:



Reed, it was just a simple that did call for the shenanigans. Now, answer, what have you understood so far?

LordReed:


Why are you asking me?

LordReed:

elated177:


Why did you open the thread? I want to have a conversation with you.

elated177:


What do you intend doing with knowledge?

LordReed:


Understand it.

LordReed:


This is funny. Your first post said you had no evidence



So what are we to accept, you have evidence or you don't have evidence?

ayoncox:

In the context of science what are evidences?

HardMirror:
this is the reason it is said that religion is an inhedrence to human progress. Just look at what a supposedly educated person typed. Lol

LordReed:


I didn't ask about the context of science. I said state your best evidence, you said you had none to present but now you are presenting something as evidence. So again do you have evidence or do you not have evidence?

ayoncox:


May be my first interpretation was wrong, premise of first judgement is the availability of scientific facts which most non-believers in God look for so my statement

frank317:


do not mind them, they will never believe the multiple testimonies told in the church.

I told Lordreed and Workch that I drove from lagos to Maidugiri on an empty tank after my pastor prayed and blessed my car and they have the guts to doubt. My Cat was turned to a Dog after prayer from my pastor and that was how God saved me from wasting money to buy a new dog, Yet they doubt the all these obvious tested and trusted miracle work of God.. of course just a testimony in the church is a complete test.

LordReed:



Well since you believe that the Holy Spirit only helps you exude love that is all well and good. I have experienced more than that from the Holy Spirit and I doubt that will end anytime soon. If experiencing what was promised with the Holy Spirit (in the same bible no less) is wayo well so be it. My experience matches the scripture you and I believe, you may choose to attribute the works to a devil or whatever, I will hold on the promises of the Word.

peggywebbs:
@LordReed...what happened between 2012 to 2018?

I was reading on a topic on Nairaland and found old threads. Stubbled across the tongue speaking bible believing Lord Reed. What happened to him? What did he experience that took him away from the faith.

He made a promise, he said he would not back out any soon but in a space of 6 years he did. I want to call him back, I want to feel what he felt. I want to know what happened that forced such a change in such a short time. Maybe it's the empath in me but I want to because I can't understand.

LordReed:
I would like to cut to the chase, please no rigmarole, just present your BEST evidence for the god you believe in.

Gift96:


We can look at it from 2 perspectives
1. There is no evidence to prove the existence of a higher deity or ultimate reality. If God was real, humanity wouldn't exist in the first place.

It's the height of being mischievous and wicked to create your own replica without a definite order. Earth is a chaotic and violent place regardless of the beautiful scenery.

2. On the other hand, you can see humanity as just a game in which random coincidence happening and people exploiting the games glitches.
A game will most definitely have a creator while the elements in the program (humans surfing through birtha and death) are disposable.
I see life as a game... I see the universe as an application itself. Religion or spirituality is just a joke not fully understood.

The God every religion present bares no semblance with truth when you put them through critical thinking. That is why overzealous theist have to force their GOD down your throat to believe in their existence.

The Creator is an advance programmer on another level and humans are disposable regardless of what you think you know. There is no special human out there, but we all feel like we are special and different from other humans out there. Whoever designed this universe is a genius

ayoncox:

I don't have any evidences to present to you just as there are no evidences that proves that other planets exist.
When we pass away from this earth we will all know whether God exists or not, but as for me I have chosen to believe he does and that Jesus is the only way to him, it is my choice of believe no need for explanation.

peggywebbs:
@LordReed...what happened between 2012 to 2018?

I was reading on a topic on Nairaland and found old threads. Stubbled across the tongue speaking bible believing Lord Reed. What happened to him? What did he experience that took him away from the faith.

He made a promise, he said he would not back out any soon but in a space of 6 years he did. I want to call him back, I want to feel what he felt. I want to know what happened that forced such a change in such a short time. Maybe it's the empath in me but I want to because I can't understand.

reigncalif1:
According to my little research about life including science and co , I came to conclusion of two theory
1 Life is too good to have been evoluted from nothing

2 life is not too perfect to have been created.
I don Know if there is a theory out there that support this but I can call it created evolution mean in a way it seems we are created to evolve something like that

because life itself looks so reduculos to be created in the first place for instant
Fate and survival of the fittest which exist among us is not a part of supposed creation because they lack purpose which is creation

Creation= purpose
Evolution=lack of purpose

Why is there fate ... Why did our creator choose survival of the fittest method does it means out creator is more ruthless and partial

How can we evolve from nothing
If ACTUALLY nothing can come outa nothing then evolution is useless

LordReed:

And what is your best evidence for your proposition?

Gift96:
My evidence? look at the world around you. There are over 7.8 billion humans on earth. Same blood and same physical structure. Humans are multi-produced and the same applies to other life-forms.
If humans were so special, their blood (existence fuel) would have been different.

What bafffles me is the self-consciousness which ofcourse extends to even cows, birds or lizards. This shows humans are not special although specifically tailored to function in some capacity other life forms can't perform. This means it's a game.

Also if there was a supreme deity as positioned by religion, birth and death would have been a different process. And if you have noticed, nothing leaves this realm. Everything disintegrate and is converted at the point of death so it's an ultimate GAME.

TenQ:



Otherwise

Chaos, Desolation and Emptiness rules.

LordReed:


Ok so you are not advocating for the existence of a god?

LordReed:


Which is exactly what 99.9% of the universe is. The 7 other planets of our solar system cannot sustain life as we know it.