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Re: Zelensky Says 'We Realized That Ukraine Will Not Become A Member Of NATO' by dalass(f): 4:30am On Mar 16, 2022
MonkeyMods:
He must be a Yoruba man. Coward

Whatever Yoruba did to you?

You'll be delivered from your mpummiri episode cool

Btw, he can't be called a coward for seeing that no one is coming to help them to fight that war plus, most importantly, the death, destruction and untold hardship this conflict is having on his people and by extension, the whole world! angry
Re: Zelensky Says 'We Realized That Ukraine Will Not Become A Member Of NATO' by slex(m): 4:35am On Mar 16, 2022
When I made reference to tge Russia - Georgian war, people were saying USA will send boots to Ukraine , an avoidable war.

So sad.

No E-rats allowed.

Peace over everything.
Re: Zelensky Says 'We Realized That Ukraine Will Not Become A Member Of NATO' by Oladelepsy001(m): 4:45am On Mar 16, 2022
Very great decision. NATO has nothing tangible to offer Ukraine order than to escalate the war and their motive is to come close to Russia's doorstep.. Going by this, I think Russia should be preparing for other round of negotiation with Their brother(Ukraine) om how to cease fire...Peace remains the best option.
Re: Zelensky Says 'We Realized That Ukraine Will Not Become A Member Of NATO' by Aboks(m): 4:46am On Mar 16, 2022
MonkeyMods:
He must be a Yoruba man. Coward

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Re: Zelensky Says 'We Realized That Ukraine Will Not Become A Member Of NATO' by Elidrisy20: 5:20am On Mar 16, 2022
That is good news,or Putin halt your fire, back to base
Re: Zelensky Says 'We Realized That Ukraine Will Not Become A Member Of NATO' by Luchitec(m): 5:37am On Mar 16, 2022
The invasion was never really about Ukraine joining NATO per se. Although the majority of the Ukrainian citizens favor their country becoming a NATO member, the odds are steeply stacked against this ever becoming a reality. With the strategic move Russia already made by destabilizing the Crimea and the adjoining region, Ukraine would never be able to meet one of the minimum membership criteria required by NATO; that is, "They must be good neighbors and respect sovereignty outside their border." In fact, none of the big countries (France, Germany and etc.) in NATO are actually in favor of Ukraine becoming a NATO member. Who wants a new NATO member with perennial border disputes?

Vladimir Putin invasion of Ukraine is simply out of paranoia, the fear that over time, the increased westernization of Ukraine will create a spillover effect in Russia. Heck, Putin, maybe right. However, massacring thousands of Ukrainians to preempt the inevitable from ever happening in Russia is sheer pigheadedness and delusion of grandeur.
dappydozzy:


Before zelensky did not come out clear on NATO issue, In January, there were high level talks between NATO, Russian military leaders and Russian foreign minister, but NATO could not give Russia guarantees that Ukraine will not join NATO, which actually led to the actual invasion. The invasion could have being averted, though

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Re: Zelensky Says 'We Realized That Ukraine Will Not Become A Member Of NATO' by cciojazz: 5:49am On Mar 16, 2022
I beg to differ! The base that was targeted 25 miles from the Polish border has long been a traning camp for Ukrainians by NATO. So there was, already a gradual encroachment into Russias face. If the fear was avoiding westernization, although, what is really not already westernized about Ukraine (Being is whatbis considered eastern Europe does not make them any less westernized), then Russia could have banned its citizens from accessing western tv, news etc. Just like North Korea. So in my opinion, that is not why. Let me know if ypu have other questions or comments.

Luchitec:
The invasion was never really about Ukraine joining NATO per se. Although the majority of the Ukrainian citizens favor their country becoming a NATO member, the odds are steeply stacked against this ever becoming a reality. With the strategic move Russia already made by destabilizing the Crimea and the adjoining region, Ukraine would never be able to meet one of the minimum membership criteria required by NATO; that is, "They must be good neighbors and respect sovereignty outside their border." In fact, none of the big countries (France, Germany and etc.) in NATO are actually in favor of Ukraine becoming a NATO member. Who wants a new NATO member with perennial border disputes?

Vladimir Putin invasion of Ukraine is simply out of paranoia, the fear that over time, the increased westernization of Ukraine will create a spillover effect in Russia. Heck, Putin, maybe right. However, massacring thousands of Ukrainians to preempt the inevitable from ever happening in Russia is sheer pigheadedness and delusion of grandeur.
Re: Zelensky Says 'We Realized That Ukraine Will Not Become A Member Of NATO' by ultimateprof: 6:03am On Mar 16, 2022
Joe Biden will not like this.
Re: Zelensky Says 'We Realized That Ukraine Will Not Become A Member Of NATO' by respect80(m): 6:07am On Mar 16, 2022
Owen247:
must u insult peple in d guise of provin ur point? Nawa 4 u oh.
The person he mentioned did the same too...
What is good for the goose is also good for the gander wink
Re: Zelensky Says 'We Realized That Ukraine Will Not Become A Member Of NATO' by Johel(m): 6:07am On Mar 16, 2022
HITdemUP:
I don't want War o. Everyone will be affected either directly or indirectly.


Fear fear...Uno wan die but u wan go heaven.
Re: Zelensky Says 'We Realized That Ukraine Will Not Become A Member Of NATO' by RodgersAkpafu: 6:16am On Mar 16, 2022
zoedew:
TRUTH IS, RUSSIA WILL END PAYING TO HAVE UKRAINE REBUILT. THE WEST WILL COMPEL RUSSIA TO DO SO. THE WEST ALREADY HAS RUSSIAN ASSETS SEIZED TO HAVE THAT DONE- HALF OF RUSSIAN SOVEREIGN FUNDS. RUSSIAN ECONOMY IS NOT RECOVERING IN 50 YEARS FROM THE DAMAGE DAILY BEING INFLICTED ON THE SYSTEM BY SANCTIONS INDUCED BY THE INVASION. PUTIN DIDN'T GET THIS RIGHT. RUSSIA SHOULD HAVE USED COVERT MEASURES TO HAVE UKRAINE IN LINE. RUSSIAN CONCERNS ARE WELL UNDERSTOOD ALL THINGS CONSIDERED.


The same way America rebuilt Iraq or Afghanistan abi?

Doing that will permanently damage the credibility of the west.
Re: Zelensky Says 'We Realized That Ukraine Will Not Become A Member Of NATO' by cedricksly: 6:17am On Mar 16, 2022
Dalil8:


What's to stop other non - western countries from buying Russian oil and military equipments?

Russia has the largest arms industry in the world.
even countries that are not self sufficient are also joining the sanction, lol, what a joke
Re: Zelensky Says 'We Realized That Ukraine Will Not Become A Member Of NATO' by caye(m): 6:18am On Mar 16, 2022
Techguy96:

This war is beyond Ukraine joining NATO, in 2012 major oil reserves was discovered around Ukraine.

Ukraine also sign a deal with shell and exon mobi for oil exploration, this will make Ukraine become a major competitor to Russia.

The west will rather do oil deal with Ukraine than Russia.

Russia survive on oil exportation to other European countries, with the oil discovered in Ukraine, they are threatening the very survival of Russia.

This is the pure reason for the invasion, some of the reserve was discovered in crimea this was why Russia first invaded and captured Crimea but Ukraine block major water supply to crimea which is seriously affecting Crimea, Russia is extending their invasion into Ukraine so they could solve the water issue in crimea at the same time cover more oil reserve in Ukraine.

This is the whole truth behind the war, Ukraine has not even made a request to join NATO since 2008. Saying they invaded Ukraine because they want to join NATO is a big fat lie by Putin, it's all about the oil and the economy of Russia.
Putin don't want Ukraine to be their competitor.

Never underestimate the powers of disinformationists and CNN/BBC drug addicts.

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Re: Zelensky Says 'We Realized That Ukraine Will Not Become A Member Of NATO' by mrkia(m): 6:29am On Mar 16, 2022
Zelense needs be jailed! Why wasting the lives of your people the?
Re: Zelensky Says 'We Realized That Ukraine Will Not Become A Member Of NATO' by Caseless: 6:33am On Mar 16, 2022

On Tuesday, Stoltenberg warned that Russia was laying the groundwork for further escalation in Ukraine by claiming the country is developing chemical weapons in biological labs.

"This is just another lie," he said. "We are concerned that Moscow could stage a 'false flag' operation."

This is something they're known for. They use this to invade nations so they're afraid of their own shadows.

Zelensky remains an idiot though. He was grandstanding instead of taking this step initially. Now see where he has taken his country to.

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Re: Zelensky Says 'We Realized That Ukraine Will Not Become A Member Of NATO' by jaxin119: 6:35am On Mar 16, 2022
Befii:
Nw wassup with NATO - where are those so obsessed with NATO that would only impose unnecessary sanctions. If Russia had been Libya - there be no sanction but invasion.

NATO is strong only against weaker nations without advanced military arsenal.

I knew all the noise about "Ukrainian resistance and supposed victory" was just common propaganda.
Like for US/NATO, share for Russia.

Russia is no longer the sleeping giant, she's made tremendous advancement militarily, even supplies Israel and China with weapons.

She's got better missiles traveling at more 20 times the speed of sound - Avangard dubbed Satan by NATO.

It's not advanced jet Fighters that would never smell Russian airspace - it's missile protected by S - 300, 400, the latest which is S - 500 and is the most sophisticated in the entire universe

US military chiefs admitted S - 500 is 50 miles ahead of any existing defense system, dispute and use Google.

Look how Iran bombarded Aramco oil facilities despite the presence of US patriot batteries.
Power has diffused - fellow Africans US and the West never meant well for Africans, they killed Gaddafi not really cause he was a bad guy, Libya was doing fine. Libya now isn't better like the country that used to be like our own American dream.

These guys paint rising powers with propaganda in order to instigate uprising, then they come in and arm civilians in order to overthrow a good man.

They wouldn't want you to grow, so you're always going to rely on them. They generate massive revenue from weapons sales. Africans get sense now.

Iran, North Korea, Russia, China, Vietnam, and even Israel have committed more terrible crimes against humanity compared with whatever Gaddafi did, yet they won't invade cause they won't survive it.

Zelenskky deserves jail for politicising and sacrificing the lives of his people.

He is just a puppet - and i'm sure he was forced to make this decision due to the missile attack on the base hosting so called NATO super warriors.

Russia fears no one - ask Hitler.
Russia delivered Syria from US, Israel, and the rest - the comedian thought he could make joke out of everything

Zelenskky, go on with the war, join NATO.
Innocent lives could have been saved, the war was never necessary.

You condemn Russia, if most of you knew history, you should be grateful to the Russians.

They supply your army (Nigerian Army) weapons to combat Boko Haram - something US clearly refused to do.

US travel far abroad invading nations, Ukraine was to close to join NATO.
America would have done the same.
Vladimir Putin is the most powerful leader of the century.

Applaud

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Re: Zelensky Says 'We Realized That Ukraine Will Not Become A Member Of NATO' by infogeneral: 6:36am On Mar 16, 2022
No matter the outcome and how long it takes. There will be no winner in this war, only lossers. So it's better they end the war now.
Re: Zelensky Says 'We Realized That Ukraine Will Not Become A Member Of NATO' by zoedew: 6:44am On Mar 16, 2022
RodgersAkpafu:



The same way America rebuilt Iraq or Afghanistan abi?

Doing that will permanently damage the credibility of the west.
Ukraine is not Afghanistan just as Edo nor benLagos!
Re: Zelensky Says 'We Realized That Ukraine Will Not Become A Member Of NATO' by Laurene: 6:46am On Mar 16, 2022
zoedew:
TRUTH IS, RUSSIA WILL END UP
PAYING TO HAVE UKRAINE REBUILT. THE WEST WILL COMPEL RUSSIA TO DO SO. THE WEST ALREADY HAS RUSSIAN ASSETS SEIZED TO HAVE THAT DONE- HALF OF RUSSIAN SOVEREIGN FUNDS. RUSSIAN ECONOMY IS NOT RECOVERING IN 50 YEARS FROM THE DAMAGE DAILY BEING INFLICTED ON THE SYSTEM BY SANCTIONS INDUCED BY THE INVASION. PUTIN DIDN'T GET THIS RIGHT. RUSSIA SHOULD HAVE USED COVERT MEASURES TO HAVE UKRAINE IN LINE. RUSSIAN CONCERNS ARE WELL UNDERSTOOD ALL THINGS CONSIDERED.
wake up from sleep.
You're still waiting on the west to do something.
You haven't learned at all.
Re: Zelensky Says 'We Realized That Ukraine Will Not Become A Member Of NATO' by zoedew: 6:46am On Mar 16, 2022
msrcusgarvey6:
SOBBING or what sensible thing have you written?
I understand your situation. You can’t be sobbing and be clear headed at the same time.
Re: Zelensky Says 'We Realized That Ukraine Will Not Become A Member Of NATO' by HRMK: 6:48am On Mar 16, 2022
WHY WAIT TILL HIS COUNTRY IS TOTALLY DESTROYED BEFORE MAKING UP HIS MIND?
Re: Zelensky Says 'We Realized That Ukraine Will Not Become A Member Of NATO' by zoedew: 6:50am On Mar 16, 2022
Ellasure:



Do you understand the word world power as it refers to Russia?

The western world allies understand their limits and would not bother Russia with retaliation. If today Russia decide to go into Poland what do you think will happen?

Those European countries ruled by elegant ladies will continue to jambla enu, that is all, and the Russians will still have their ways. Most of those women countries can not muster enough manpower to defend Europe from a Russian military onslaught. They have just discovered that and besides these social democratic parties government have lost ground in power equations because of desires to run a green economy. Imagine that Germany decommissioned nuclear power plants recently while receiving natural gas from where Russia.

When Russia close to gas taps the whole of Europe will freeze up and the resultant deaths of people will decimate Europe.

As at today, Russia is the only true world power. Remove sentiments. Those European countries think they have power when they are always begging USA for money and more money. War is fought with money and natural resources not with a PhD from Stanford University or Cambridge University.

More years of green energy will destroy whatever technical skills Europe and America ever had and their coming generation will be lagging behind Africa in technical know how. Talk less of the Asian countries.

They surely don't know what is coming ahead of them. Let social democratic parties continue.
You may need to re-evaluate your position. China is it. If Russia steps into Poland WW3 will be instantly. Russia knows that. Truth is RUSSIA and USA are both M.A.D. and they know it!
Re: Zelensky Says 'We Realized That Ukraine Will Not Become A Member Of NATO' by zoedew: 6:53am On Mar 16, 2022
kiddkash:

but they never took Russia security concerns seriously. they kept saying if anything happens, we will sanction. instead of fixing the problem. Putin got tired of their threats of sanctions and no one will take him for a ride again.
when a big dog is sleeping, people mistake it for lazy or can't do anything
No one wants to get nuked! Besides, Ukraine is not a NATO member. The best the West can do in all the circumstances is to go covert. That the West is doing.

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Re: Zelensky Says 'We Realized That Ukraine Will Not Become A Member Of NATO' by zoedew: 6:56am On Mar 16, 2022
maasoap:


I don't even know who is feeding you guys all these garbage
You must have tasted garbage before now. This is not one. Just say you disagree if you find my position not in sync with your thinking on the matter.
Re: Zelensky Says 'We Realized That Ukraine Will Not Become A Member Of NATO' by zoedew: 6:57am On Mar 16, 2022
Help2020:

RUSSIA ECONOMY IS NOT RECOVERING IN 50 YEARS? SHEY YOU DEY RESSIA OR NAN RUSSIANS TELL YOU THIS?
Ask a good Economist or one of the Oligarchs.
Re: Zelensky Says 'We Realized That Ukraine Will Not Become A Member Of NATO' by zoedew: 6:58am On Mar 16, 2022
Laurene:
wake up from sleep.
You're still waiting on the west to do something.
You haven't learned at all.
After the military operation comes economic operations. Let’s see how it goes going forward.
Re: Zelensky Says 'We Realized That Ukraine Will Not Become A Member Of NATO' by Lordedifice1: 7:06am On Mar 16, 2022
Zelensky is a fool
America is the center of confusion to Ukraine
Now after many soldiers and citizens have died, it is now that zelensky is ready and calling for peace
Re: Zelensky Says 'We Realized That Ukraine Will Not Become A Member Of NATO' by everythinggirly(f): 7:07am On Mar 16, 2022
After the loss of lives and properties? Peace talk indeed!
Re: Zelensky Says 'We Realized That Ukraine Will Not Become A Member Of NATO' by loswhite(m): 7:26am On Mar 16, 2022
SarkinYarki:
Joe Biden is a criminal
Russia is invading a country and you are calling joe Biden....Goat
Re: Zelensky Says 'We Realized That Ukraine Will Not Become A Member Of NATO' by loswhite(m): 7:30am On Mar 16, 2022
MajorOvakporaye:
Zelensky knows very well that the military power of his country does not and can never match that of Russia. He is also aware that NATO, the US and Britain under two idiots called Biden and Boris can't help him win any battle but foolish idiotic amala and ewedu overnight war analysts won't allow us to rest on this forum
So if China threatens our sovereignty today we should just hand over the country without resistance right? It is amazing how you guys choose to be deliberately stupid. Russia only used NATO as a reason to invade Ukraine.
Re: Zelensky Says 'We Realized That Ukraine Will Not Become A Member Of NATO' by Mikekan30: 7:33am On Mar 16, 2022
Nairaland Analyst over to you! I have said and I will say it again Russia has every right to protect it's territory from the West, and Ukraine is under it's territory ,Zelensky felt the US, UK and EU will be able to help him fight Russia he never knew that Russia is smarter, bigger and brighter.

They shot some missiles almost outskirts of Ukraine and some those pellets
fell through the border of Poland a NATO territory but NATO and US know you can't engage with RUSSIA because Russia is always WAR READY..

Right now Russia is Creating Biological weapons in their secret Lab across the country. So far Russia is winning and The West are out of options.

And for the Economy, The European countries will surfer it as well because majority of EU countries buys oil and Gas and also raw materials from Russia, the US gasoline is on the high, China Has steped in to revive the Russian Economy.
India has step in to buy Russian Oil.
Iran, North Korea Biological Labs are ready waiting for Russia to Give Go ahead.

If you think Russia are alone , you are joking..
Re: Zelensky Says 'We Realized That Ukraine Will Not Become A Member Of NATO' by vivaciousvivi(f): 7:38am On Mar 16, 2022
They fought a good fight - this was a case of No Victor, No Vanquished. Almost like the Vietnamese War. NATO and the West failed Ukraine although to a certain degree, I can understand their reason for non involvement at this time.
Zelensky and Putin should count their losses, sheath swords, end this nonsensical war and move on.

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