Onlytruth:

Posted by: jason123
@First bolded,

So, you accuse me of tribalism when you from the same so called SS want all development to head to Lagos, Delta and PH.
So what happens to Calabar and Tinapa? To them tough luck?
And you wonder why no one with sense believe the SS nonsense.
What is good for Lagos and Delta, is certainly good for Calabar.

@Second bolded,

So you now compare C/River with Jigawa and Kwara?
SMH!  

I hope C/river folks are reading.

You are just being melodramatic. It is not a matter of reading it or not. Even they (CR folks) know the truth. In as much as I appreciate the ambitious nature of the project, it will not work because a number of factors are already against it, most especially, the Location and the lack of cultural diversity. How many people will get down from Lagos, Abuja or PH airport, then get a bus or airline (if there is ) to CR It is too stressful. The fact that MEND is know to be a "ND thing" does not help matters.

Guy, I am not against such projects but when executing such, we have to take ALL the factors in to account and not just do it because we think it is big and beautiful, it should work.

Posted by: alj_harem

it can't because no one would invest in a project that does not have the right equipment for it to generate money

No foreigner would go to a place Nigerians don't flock to.

onlytruth brother, what is wrong in comparing cross river with jigawa and kwara

is cross river better than those states
where are u getting at

With all due respect, Cross river is FAR better than those states, unless I misread their true potentials and natural beauty.  

KnowAll:

Onlytruth why do u want Tinapa to start selling those dirty spare parts sold in Nnewi and okrika clothes sold in Aba. Don't u know Tinapa is meant to be posh, na wa oh

No tribalistic intentions but the highlight is another truth.

Off topic: Those cities, in my opinion should be our technology center.

Onlytruth:

Posted by: alj_harem
No foreigner would go to a place Nigerians don't flock to.

With all due respect, Cross river is FAR better than those states, unless I misread their true potentials and natural beauty.  

haba brother in what sense is it far better than even jigawa

i think u have misread it, having natural resources actually hinders the so called beauty of a city or state

Posted by: jason123

You are just being melodramatic. It is not a matter of reading it or not. Even they (CR folks) know the truth. In as much as I appreciate the ambitious nature of the project, it will not work because a number of factors are already against it, most especially, the Location and [/b]the lack of cultural diversity. How many people will get down from Lagos, Abuja or PH airport, then get a bus or airline (if there is ) to CR It is too stressful. [b]The fact that MEND is know to be a "ND thing" does not help matters.

Guy, I am not against such projects but when executing such, we have to take ALL the factors in to account and not just do it because we think it is big and beautiful, it should work.

But people come all the way from Congo DR, CAR, Cameroon, Zambia, Malawi etc to Nnewi, Aba and Onitsha.  

And they do so inspite of all the kidnap fears.

Anyone who does not know you would think that you are honestly commenting. I know you are not.

I ask you again, so tough luck to Cross river and Tinapa by reason of their location

jason123:

No tribalistic intentions but the highlight is another truth.

Off topic: T[b]hose cities, in my opinion should be our technology center.[/b]

jason now if u talk of technology center, this is where the government need to invest in both univerities and work shops

Onlytruth:

Posted by: jason123
But people come all the way from Congo DR, CAR, Cameroon, Zambia, Malawi etc to Nnewi, Aba and Onitsha.  

And they do so inspite of all the kidnap fears.

Anyone who does not know you would think that you are honestly commenting. I know you are not.

I ask you again, so tough luck to Cross river and Tinapa by reason of their location

onlytruth, they are not that many and diverse at all has u make it seem

even the few that come are there for business ie nollywood movies in onitsha

and no one would kidnap a congese man i mean for what na

Posted by: alj_harem

onlytruth, they are not that many and diverse at all has u make it seem

even the few that come are there for business ie nollywood movies in onitsha

and no one would kidnap a congese man i mean for what na

Then I'm beginning to believe that you don't go to the East.
I state the facts. I don't understand what you mean by "they are not that many and diverse".

Abeg jason,
comparison b/w CR and kwara or jigawa does not even exist,at least if for nothing else,my state capital is the most organised and cleanest state capital in nigeria

Why should Tinapa be situated near Lagos? Why can't the Calabar port be opened? Must everything be in the west?

On the issue of "diversity", I don't believe it falls out of the skies.

Every global city today at one time or the other was dominated by ONE dynamic culture/group (notice that I did not say tribe). It usually diversifies as it grows.

The extent to which the city advances depends on the "civilization" level of the original dominant group.

If the group is progressive and ambitious, then yes, the city would grow fast and famous. If not, the city would not.

joecrack:

Abeg jason,
comparison b/w CR and kwara or jigawa does not even exist,at least if for nothing else,my state capital is the most organised and cleanest state capital in nigeria

jigawa is also very clean

Manny247:

Why should Tinapa be situated near Lagos? Why can't the Calabar port be opened? Must everything be in the west?

no one is talking about lagos alone

we also said abuja, warri, port harcount

about calabar, then u are talking, i think jonathan needs to look at this, i mean insisted of building an int airport in bayelsea

Onlytruth:

Posted by: jason123
But people come all the way from Congo DR, CAR, Cameroon, Zambia, Malawi etc to Nnewi, Aba and Onitsha.  

And they do so inspite of all the kidnap fears.

Anyone who does not know you would think that you are honestly commenting. I know you are not.

I ask you again, so tough luck to Cross river and Tinapa by reason of their location

Lol . . .you this guy

If people come from various countries to Nnewi and co, it is mainly for business purposes not leisure. For your business to progress or for you to purchase goods and services, you will go to any place or location on Earth. That is human nature.
Btw, what is the population of the "foreigners" that come to Nnewi and other I guess it is so small, its almost negligible because if it was not, we will be hearing about it and the economies of those cities will almost be like that of Lagos,PH, Abuja or Delta or atleast close. I am not belittling those cities but I am looking at it as an objective Nigerian!

About your question,
It depends on what you want to hear because your question seems like you are driving at a conclusion about my opinion of the project.
Okay, my opinion is this:
The project should be sold to a foreign investor that is willing to create a conducive environment for that venture to work. The money generated from such sell couple with the money from various forms of taxation policies and influx of auxiliary businesses that will want to take advantage of being affiliated with such project, should be used to build a smaller project that will take advantage of the natural comparative advantage the state has to offer. A project that is self sufficient. Such a project can be an hospitality project that will take advantage of the magnet nature of the state to tourist.

This is my opinion.

Even if some people are unable to sleep withtheir wife the will blame the north.

dustydee:

Even if some people are unable to sleep withtheir wife the will blame the north.

joecrack:

Abeg jason,
comparison b/w CR and kwara or jigawa does not even exist,at least if for nothing else,my state capital is the most organised and cleanest state capital in nigeria

LOL. Bros, do not be offended.
My statement was made with respect to the major Nigerian cities.

Manny247:

Why should Tinapa be situated near Lagos? Why can't the Calabar port be opened? Must everything be in the west?

I also suggested Abuja, Delta and PH. How come you missed those cities by remembered Lagos
Do not feed your ethnocentric nature. Stop being paranoid.

Posted by: jason123

If people come from various countries to Nnewi and co, it is mainly for business purposes not leisure. For your business to progress or for you to purchase goods and services, you will go to any place or location on Earth. That is human nature.

Bingo!  

When I plan a project like Tinapa, I plan it in such a way that it CANNOT FAIL. We are talking about public funds here.

So, if you accept the bolded, I rest my case.

On the tourism point, I go back to my earlier point: You cannot have tourism if there is no other business to support it.
This is especially true in the Nigerian environment. It is even more true in Nigeria because so many other national issues kill such projects.
If you follow my plan, the project would be infallible.  

The very simple truth is that for a place like Tinapa to work, you need people to patronize the place. It does not matter if the people are coming from the moon, Calabar, Lagos, Kano etc as long as they bring their wallet.

However, for people to come, they need a cheap and easy way of getting there. But if people are going to be traveling from afar, Tinpa needs to be self-contained (think Disney World and not Six Flags).

Also, they need to give people a reason to choose Tinapa over Dubai, London, and US. Why would I want to travel a 1000 miles just to get the same thing or an experience just marginally better than I can get from a major city 10 miles away from me?

Lastly, they need to provide adequate security.

Onlytruth:

Posted by: jason123
Bingo!  

When I plan a project like Tinapa, I plan it in such a way that it CANNOT FAIL. We are talking about public funds here.

So, if you accept the bolded, I rest my case.

On the tourism point, I go back to my earlier point: You cannot have tourism if there is no other business to support it.
This is especially true in the Nigerian environment. It is even more true in Nigeria because so many other national issues kill such projects.
If you follow my plan, the project would be infallible.  

What is your plan

Wallie:

The very simple truth is that for a place like Tinapa to work, you need people to patronize the place. It does not matter if the people are coming from the moon, Calabar, Lagos, Kano etc as long as they bring their wallet.

However, for people to come, they need a cheap and easy way of getting there. But if people are going to be traveling from afar, Tinpa needs to be self-contained (think Disney World and not Six Flags).

Also, they need to give people a reason to choose Tinapa over Dubai, London, and US. Why would I want to travel a 1000 miles just to get the same thing or an experience just marginally better than I can get from a major city 10 miles away from me?

Lastly, they need to provide adequate security.

You need to tell me why I will go to TINAPA over Abuja or Dubai. Once you have an answer, then Tinapa might just work

Jason i feel u bro,
personally as a crossriverian,i have never been in tandem with that project since its inception,cuz i believe the enormous agric potentials of the state was laying under utilize.
Duke was blarbing tinapa would be generating over $1b in a year,where the $1b dey,the state is now paying back debts just because of one man's foolish policies.

This is the point I exit the thread, and I do so with a warning.

Time is running out for C/river and Tinapa.
Other Nigerian cities, especially those in the East are already making similar plans.
If a city like Enugu succeeds in what they are planning, now that it has an international airport, Tinapa may never make it again.
I'm sad, but time waits for no one.

In the East now, there is Asaba next door to Onitsha, and there is Enugu (airports) which will pull business men/women from as far away as Anambra. There is Imo cargo airport which the new governor might plan to exploit to maximum benefit.

So, before you know it, Tinapa would only have very limited option.

Nuff said.

Signing out.

Onlytruth.  

The project was not a foolish one. Even though like I said earlier that tinapa does not fit the profile of that city. But that does not mean the project would'nt succeed if it was well thought out.

We used to be inaundated with Tinapa adverts sometime ago.Collosal sums must have spent on those adverts.And to think that people are not really patronising them,after such huge investments?

We used to be inaundated with Tinapa adverts sometime ago.Collosal sums must have spent on those adverts.And to think that people are not really patronising them,after such huge investments?

I hope to visit Tinapa sometime this year, it can't be all that bad. I believe no matter what this can be turned around.

My two cents

Transport (as I have mentioned earlier)

Liaise with the Lagos Business School (choice based on my idea that this is the best biz school) and have the students crack this marketing case

Reduce cost: Tinapa should run 3 months in a year, packed with activities. This is a temporary brand building exercise. Why most of our projects fail is we too like big and we don't have the capacity to pull off big. The casino should be made functional.

Sponsor and host every show on TV, MGBN, Idol, mass weddings and even Church crusades.

Tinapa Studios must produce a movies, Nollywood high class. TV does wonders to the human mind

Hand over to private hands

The earlier the better or we might be looking at another Ajaokuta project. Irrespective of the waste, I truly believe in this but a lot of creative and marketing work needs to be done to achieve success

afam4eva:

The project was not a foolish one. Even though like I said earlier that tinapa does not fit the profile of that city. But that does not mean the project would'nt succeed if it was well thought out.

well bro,indeed it was not well thought out(though with good intentions) that's why it has some what become a failure today.
Our politicians should face basics and stop all these white elephant projects,cuz at the end of the day,the poor masses bear the brunt for all these shyt.
Today imoke is always hiding under the smoke screen of paying back debts when challenged over democracy dividends.
In my LG the guy has done only 2 projects in his 4years as gov,constructing a 40km road,and rural electrification.can u beat that,in 4 years.nigerians are really suffering and smilling.

they should have built in lagos

gmyguy:

they should have built in lagos

why ?

and moreover, it was state funded and not fg so unless fashola/ tiunbu had built it

joecrack:

Jason i feel u bro,
personally as a crossriverian,i have never been in tandem with that project since its inception,cuz i believe the enormous agric potentials of the state was laying under utilize.
Duke was blarbing tinapa would be generating over $1b in a year,where the $1b dey,the state is now paying back debts just because of one man's foolish policies.

Thanks for understanding . .

alj_harem:

jigawa is also very clean



no one is talking about lagos alone

we also said abuja, warri, port harcount

about calabar, then u are talking, i think jonathan needs to look at this, i mean insisted of building an int airport in bayelsea

why r U̶̲̥̅̊ talkin with two mouth. I remember some months ago who GEJ award contract  for  bayelsa airport. U̶̲̥̅̊ canpaign agaist it bitterly now U̶̲̥̅̊ pretent to support it. Is it 4rm  U̶̲̥̅̊я heart?

kcswat:

why r U̶̲̥̅̊ talkin with two mouth. I remember some months ago who GEJ award contract  for  bayelsa airport. U̶̲̥̅̊ canpaign agaist it bitterly now U̶̲̥̅̊ pretent to support it. Is it 4rm  U̶̲̥̅̊я heart?

why do u not comprehend before posting

alj_harem:

jigawa is also very clean



no one is talking about lagos alone

we also said abuja, warri, port harcount

about calabar, t[b]hen u are talking, i think jonathan needs to look at this, i mean insisted of building an int airport in bayelsea[/b]

insisted of building an airport in baylesea why not build it in calabar

alj_harem:

why do u not comprehend before posting

insisted of building an airport in baylesea why not build it in calabar

my bad. i didint read it well.