NNTR:
I am sure that time will snitch.
Just keep your knickers on, and stop being itchy, as time will reveal whether there's nothing in what's posted or not.

_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

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But this is so brazenly ignorant and foolish, you believe the Catholics only to spite Protestants. Then, after you've finished, you'll turn round to demonize the Catholics, hypocrite comedian.
In the first place, i am yet to hear or see any Protestant teach that Mary is not the mother of God. Or maybe i missed the teaching. Of course Mary is/was the mother of God the Son. The Virgin birth is a core doctrine in all christianity i suppose.
What Protestants would disagree with is worshipping Mary or praying to Mary or praying through Mary instead of Jesus Christ. Remove your head from inside Asleep comic book and see what is really happening around you.

NNTR:
I am sure that time will snitch.
Just keep your knickers on, and stop being itchy, as time will reveal whether there's nothing in what's posted or not.

cornelboy:


In the first place, I am yet to hear or see any Protestant teach that Mary is not the mother of God

Wake up from your slumber and see what is really happening around you!

NNTR:

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Two positions are empty in hell. Two gone AWOL in hell. Misery acquaints a man with strange bedfellows.

_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

Antiislaam:


you just like to always make us laugh with your ignorance here on NL.. Your religion offers you salvation, shey tru Muhammad that was poisoned to death that couldn't save himself from the poisonous food he ate??

cornelboy:

It will be the same old story

cornelboy:

Which salvation does your religion offer you?

Lol why do Muslim kill ram every year?
Who do they kill it for?
Is that not ritual?

God gave Moses how the children of Israel should sanctify themselves after sinned. They kill various animals depending of the sin thwy committed. They also do yearly sacrifices for sin. These are strictly for the children of Israel.

Now God brought a new covenant for all mankind through the sacrificing of Jesus on the tree. It was once and for all.

Only a perfect person like Jesus could restore the perfect life Adam lost in the garden through his death.

True Christians have one hope; to live forever on earth!

AntiChristian:
Salvation is attained by the believe in Allah alone, worship Him alone as He ought to be worshipped through following the injunctions of the Prophet.

Not all Muslims kill ram. Capable Muslims kill it. And it's not compulsory on those who can't afford it. And the Ram is to obey the injunction of the Prophet following the footstep of Abraham. He wanted to sacrifice his son and the sacrifice was replaced with a ram.

The People of Moses were to follow Allah as Moses their Prophet commands them.

Jesus never claim he brought a new covenant anywhere in the Bible.

Jesus said why do you call me good! there is none good except God alone Luke 18:19, Mark 10:18! That means Jesus is not perfect!


You will die one day and your destination is either hell or Paradise!

cornelboy:

Look before you leap!

If there was a way for the angels to have sex in heaven, they wouldn't have stressed themselves to come to earth.
They lust after the beauty of women and sinned against their God. God has imprisoned them and they will be destroyed together with their master Satan the devil in the future.

Sex is a gift for married couple on earth and they do it for pleasure and copulation.
There's nothing like that in heaven.

MaxInDHouse:


Theories can come in any form so no matter what you think about other people's theory you also have yours that surely sound odd to them.
One thing that can't be swept aside is the benefits of your so called theory after it has been practically applied among adherents!

cornelboy:


In the first place, I am yet to hear or see any Protestant teach that Mary is not the mother of God

Wake up from your slumber and see what is really happening around you!

MaxInDHouse:
Moses WAS God in Egypt accompanied by his own prophet:
And the Lord said to Moses, “See, I make you as God to Pharaoh; and Aaron your brother shall be your prophet. Exodus 7:1

MaxInDHouse:
Go and edit all the Bibles in the world to erase the above verse!

MaxInDHouse:
Had it been a JW asked for just an hour to answer them they'll say "he wants to go and ask their Governing Body" but here we are!

AntiChristian:

Are you not tired of these lines?

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This thing really pain you sha. You should carry the Word of God on your head, not my words and experiences like gala. Prior to this, i have not heard or noticed anyone teach that Mary is not the mother of God. Didn't notice them and can't notice them still. It's just a play of words on their side. A person that says Jesus is God should know that Mary was/is the mother of Jesus, and therefore the mother of God the Son. But that doesn't mean she should be worshipped or prayed to or idolized. She played her part and her part is undeniable except for antichrists who don't believe that God came in the flesh.
How did God come in the flesh if not through the virgin (Mary)'s birth.

NNTR:
1. Who was Moses told he specifically will be as God to?
2. Was Moses told he is equal to God?
3. Did Moses have the power to declare to someone and say: Your sins are forgiven?
4. If Moses was God, did he ever know what was going in Pharaoh's mind? Did he know the thoughts or any other human being for that matter?

Asking me to go and edit all the Bibles in the world to erase the above verse is a daft suggestion to make

Thanks for your comment and for waiting, life, after all, is always about waiting for the right moment to act

_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

MaxInDHouse:
STORY! STORY!! STORY!!!

Moses WAS God just as Jesus WAS God. Period!
Whatever any of them became is due to the grace of God who sent both of them so both of them were Gods at a point in their lives! ;

NNTR:

I get that 'Moses WAS God, just as Jesus WAS God. Period!', but now using your reasoning, who specifically was Moses, God to, and who was Jesus, God to?

MaxInDHouse:
Good and reasonable question!

The Bible answers:
Jehovah then said to Moses: “See, I have made you like God to Pharʹaoh, and Aaron your own brother will become your prophet! Exodus 7:1

God in this context means Moses's authority will override that of the most powerful ruler in the world of that time (Pharaoh) this people are called Gods because they decide on what will be in the human society! Psalms 82:6
So how did Jesus rule as God?
During his time Jesus was given the power (authority) over all manner of sicknesses including death!
That's why Isaiah 9:6 could say one of the name he (Jesus) will be called is "Mighty God" and due to the authority given him he will be a God in the midst of the Israelites {Isaiah 7:14} that no matter the calamity Jesus has the power over it including natural forces like the sea! Mark 4:39 compare to Exodus 14:21

So the person who gave the both of them the authority is with them that's why anything they commanded will take place. The difference here is that Moses is just a human like you and i so he needs to hear God's voice before acting but Jesus is not a human like us from the beginning {John 8:23} so God communicate with him in the spirit giving him orders that only him could hear, understand and act upon it! John 8:28-29

We know Jesus is far far far greater than Moses due to his vast experience having being with God from the beginning but he is not to be worshiped, according to him we all have one father and God who is above us all! John 20:17

NNTR:
Please keep it short and sweet, when responding to the following questions, i.e. reply with not more than one sentence.

1. Who specifically was Moses, God to?
2. Who was Jesus, God to?
3. Is God capable of projecting Himself out of His existence to externally become a human being?
4. Does God have the capability, ability, know how and power to exist in more than one place at the same time? Example, in His full glory exist in heaven and equally exist physically on earth, as a human being be, too

MaxInDHouse:
According to the Bible, answers are:
[1] Messenger of God! Exodus 3:10
[2] Messenger of God! John 3:16-18
[3] He will never share His glory with anything or anyone {Isaiah 42:8} so he is always on His throne in heaven while thousands upon thousands are always rendering service to Him! Daniel 7:10
[4] He will never do such that's why He has uncountable angelic sons at his service!

MaxInDHouse:
TRINITARIANS may have taught you so many presumptuous things to support their trinity dogma but the Bible never present the true God that way! Isaiah 55:8-9

NNTR:
Thank you for your attempt, but lets try this again in an improved way.
Please keep it short and sweet, when responding to the following questions, i.e. reply with just one word.

1. Who specifically was Moses, God to? (i.e. Note what Exodus 7:1 says)
2. Who was Jesus, God to?
3. Is God capable of projecting Himself out of His existence to externally become a human being? Yes or No?
4. Does God have the capability, ability, know how and power to exist in more than one place at the same time? Example, in His full glory exist in heaven and equally exist physically on earth, as a human being be, too. Yes or No

TRINITARIANS, whatever TRINITARIANS means, have not captured my allegiance

The trinity dogma, in a three dimensional world, that we live in is a fact, but it does not mean, it absolutely defines nor justifiably represents an infinite incorporeal supernatural supreme phenomenon being known as God

MaxInDHouse:
Why twisting it all over again?

MaxInDHouse:
Well we don't base our beliefs on presumption.

NNTR:
Thank you for your attempt, but lets try this again in an improved way.
Please keep it short and sweet, when responding to the following questions, i.e. reply with just one word.

1. Who specifically was Moses, God to? (i.e. Note what Exodus 7:1 says)
2. Who was Jesus, God to?
3. Is God capable of projecting Himself out of His existence to externally become a human being? Yes or No?
4. Does God have the capability, ability, know how and power to exist in more than one place at the same time? Example, in His full glory exist in heaven and equally exist physically on earth, as a human being be, too. Yes or No

TRINITARIANS, whatever TRINITARIANS means, have not captured my allegiance

MaxInDHouse:
According to the Bible and Our own God:

[1] Messenger
[2] Messenger
[3] No
[4] No

MaxInDHouse:
He only sends angels to represent Him always on planet earth!

This thing really pain you sha.

Prior to this, i have not heard or noticed anyone teach that Mary is not the mother of God.Didn't notice them and can't notice them still.

"Remove your head from inside Asleep comic book and see what is really happening around you."

It's just a play of words on their side.

A person that says Jesus is God should know that Mary was/is the mother of Jesus, and therefore the mother of God the Son.

But that doesn't mean she should be worshipped or prayed to or idolized.

She played her part and her part is undeniable except for antichrists who don't believe that God came in the flesh.

How did God come in the flesh if not through the virgin (Mary)'s birth

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NNTR:
Ssshhhh! People are discovering more about you from the improved questioning
Good for your lot then.
Neither do I, most of times, dont base beliefs on presumption, hence why I keep on firing questions at you
Thank you for your honest since and truthful replies to questions [3] and [4] however as regards, questions [1] and [2] where according to the Bible, does it, allegedly by you, say that. Provide bible verse where in verbatim say that:
1. Moses, is God to 'Messenger'?
2. Jesus, God to 'Messenger'?
Malachi 3:1
'“Behold, I will send My messenger, who will prepare the way before Me.
Then the Lord whom you seek will suddenly come to His temple
—the Messenger of the covenant, in whom you delight—see, He is coming,”
says the LORD of Hosts.'
Who is an angel?
Angels, ' malakh' in Hebrew and 'angelos' in Greek, are agents sent on an errand to do something or deliver a message, call them, messengers, if you like. They can be celestial beings, meaning heavily hosts or can be terrestrial beings, meaning human beings
Do people send themselves on personal errands? Of course, capital YES, people can or do send themselves on personal errands, so implying that there's no exception to this rule
Trinity, is fit for purpose and albeit, the word itself, is non existent in the bible, the word, nonetheless, is used informally to describe the mysterious and fascinating distinguishing features of the infinite incorporeal, powerful, supreme, supernatural, influential, phenomenon Entity known as God
OK, I confess. Which is, I lied, when I alluded that, its a fact, we live in a three dimensional world. Thats not completely true because we actually, do live in a 3+1 dimensional existence, and I hope from that observation, its seen to be ludicrous to think, this God, in the real sense of His unparalleled Majesty, Serene Highness, Glory, Greatness, Matchlessness etc is subjected or limited to trinity, talkless of, a 3+1 dimensional existence
God always employs whatever we are used to, what we are familiar with, to attract our interest or attention with, uses them to transmit, share or exchange information or ideas with us. Now every physical thing on earth is represented, is identifiable with three metrics, which are: length, breadth and height, or distance, width and depth even latitude, longitude and altitude, but if you throw time, in the mix, you have the a 3+1 dimensional existence. Right now, you dont need me to say that, God is not subjected to time, and meaning, God is timeless
There is more to trinity. Trinity is a bus stop, not the bus terminus, but some jump off at the bus stop, instead of waiting to get off at the bus terminus. Is it no wonder, why the word, trinity, by divine providence, is absent in the whole of the bible.
I AM, that I AM, is signifies infinity. It imports infinitude, indicates endlessness. God can not fit, cant be squashed or roughly pushed into a trinity box and stay indefinitely in it . There is a time and place for trinity. It happens that such a time, like that, is now
Trinity does not stop God manifesting Himself in 3 ways, now, if especially, thats how our ecosystem exists and operates, then so be it. Bring it on.
Thank you very much for being a rich old good sport. Really enjoyed and loved the discussion, we eventually in the last two or so episodes got to have. We should make a habit of it more, loll.

MaxInDHouse:

Why twisting it all over again?
Well we don't base our beliefs on presumption.
According to the Bible and Our own God:
[1] authority over Pharaoh
[2] authority over sickness, death and natural forces
[3] No
[4] No
He only sends angels to represent Him always on planet earth!

NNTR:
Ssshhhh! People are discovering more about you from the improved questioning

Good for your lot then.
Neither do I, most of times, dont base beliefs on presumption, hence why I keep on firing questions at you



Thank you for your honest since and truthful replies to questions [3] and [4] however as regards, questions [1] and [2] where according to the Bible, does it, allegedly by you, say that. Provide bible verse where in verbatim say that:
1. Moses, is God to 'Messenger'?
2. Jesus, God to 'Messenger'?

Malachi 3:1
'“Behold, I will send My messenger, who will prepare the way before Me.
Then the Lord whom you seek will suddenly come to His temple
—the Messenger of the covenant, in whom you delight—see, He is coming,”
says the LORD of Hosts.'

Who is an angel?
Angels, ' malakh' in Hebrew and 'angelos' in Greek, are agents sent on an errand to do something or deliver a message, call them, messengers, if you like. They can be celestial beings, meaning heavily hosts or can be terrestrial beings, meaning human beings

NNTR:

Do people send themselves on personal errands? Of course, capital YES, people can or do send themselves on personal errands, so implying that there's no exception to this rule

NNTR:

Trinity, is fit for purpose and albeit, the word itself, is non existent in the bible, the word, nonetheless, is used informally to describe the mysterious and fascinating distinguishing features of the infinite incorporeal, powerful, supreme, supernatural, influential, phenomenon Entity known as God

OK, I confess. Which is, I lied, when I alluded that, its a fact, we live in a three dimensional world. Thats not completely true because we actually, do live in a 3+1 dimensional existence, and I hope from that observation, its seen to be ludicrous to think, this God, in the real sense of His unparalleled Majesty, Serene Highness, Glory, Greatness, Matchlessness etc is subjected or limited to trinity, talkless of, a 3+1 dimensional existence

God always employs whatever we are used to, what we are familiar with, to attract our interest or attention with, uses them to transmit, share or exchange information or ideas with us. Now every physical thing on earth is represented, is identifiable with three metrics, which are: length, breadth and height, or distance, width and depth even latitude, longitude and altitude, but if you throw time, in the mix, you have the a 3+1 dimensional existence. Right now, you dont need me to say that, God is not subjected to time, and meaning, God is timeless

There is more to trinity. Trinity is a bus stop, not the bus terminus, but some jump off at the bus stop, instead of waiting to get off at the bus terminus. Is it no wonder, why the word, trinity, by divine providence, is absent in the whole of the bible.

I AM, that I AM, is signifies infinity. It imports infinitude, indicates endlessness. God can not fit, cant be squashed or roughly pushed into a trinity box and stay indefinitely in it . There is a time and place for trinity. It happens that such a time, like that, is now

Trinity does not stop God manifesting Himself in 3 ways, now, if especially, thats how our ecosystem exists and operates, then so be it. Bring it on.

Thank you very much for being a rich old good sport. Really enjoyed and loved the discussion, we eventually in the last two or so episodes got to have. We should make a habit of it more, loll.

_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

MaxInDHouse:




Now i understand why you hate responses that's backed up with scriptural quotations, just imagine the whole epistle you put up here without a single biblical quote.
No wahala my response still remains my response anyday anytime anywhere and before anybody i will repeat it because i've got enough scriptural backings for everything!

Angels in Islam can't impregnate humans.

Na Christians get those Angels.

Humans get sex in marriage and there will be such in heaven too.

Heaven will be interesting!

AntiChristian:

Emusan:


So he was not God at those time?

Emusan:


Why he was on earth, he was never with God bah yet Jesus says the Father is IN Him and always with Him

Emusan:

[s]Continue your lie
Liar even your 8 lying old men in Warwick will never say such[/s]

Your conclusion is wrong.

Emusan:


Yet you'll agree that Prov 8 wisdom personification is Jesus.

Do you know what Prov entirely says about WISDOM?

Emusan:


You see the reason why I said your conclusion is wrong.

Jesus who was an angel and all angels and human are god still became MIGHTY GOD

So was Moses ever referred to as MIGHTY GOD?

Angels and human are all god, so how come Jesus who was an angel will later become MIGHTY GOD?

Does MIGHTY God different from god which angels and Human are said to be?

Emusan:


Nothing like paraphrase but direct word for word

But read this with your comprehension cap on your head

CEV: Christ was truly God. But he did not try to remain equal with God.

ERV: He was like God in every way, but he did not think that his being equal with God was something to use for his own benefit.

EHV: Though he was by nature God, he did not consider equality with God as a prize to be displayed,

GW: Although he was in the form of God and equal with God, he did not take advantage of this equality

MSG: He had equal status with God but didn’t think so much of himself that he had to cling to the advantages of that status no matter what.

NIRV: In his very nature he was God. Jesus was equal with God. But Jesus didn’t take advantage of that fact.

OJB: Who, though existing in the demut of the mode of being of Elohim [His etzem or essential nature, Yn 1:1-2; 17:5], nevertheless Moshiach did not regard being equal with G-d as a thing to be seized [BERESHIS 3:5] Phil 2:6

I have to bring many translations here for simple understanding of that verse.

NNTR:
Luke 18:27
'Jesus replied,
“What is impossible with man, is possible with God.”'

Is it something too hard for God to do?
Is it impossible for God to send Himself by carrying out a Do It Yourself project, in other words, DIY?

_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

Janosky:

NNTR passed off Empty Human philosophy as Scriptures.