Detour2022:
The way we use engineer and technologist is what I find confusing.
How can an engineer manage the construction of a bridge without technology? Who are these technologist self?

Don't mind our country.

harmargedon:
sweet lord. Bro, tell me; if you're working in an company and an emergency came up that requires your attention, and let's say they was no technician on ground, just you. And it's something one man can fix, what will you do?

Bros yes you can do that ...but that's not the job description of an engineer na ..why can't you get this simple explanation

mrvitalis:
Technicians not engineers for heavens sake

Repair , maintaining and installation are not jobs of engineers but technicians

Maintenance engineers

mrvitalis:

Bros you don't have to go through those process to be and engineer ...just have B.Engr and five years minimum experience and an engineer to back that up , design a project and walah you are an engineer ..in the USA they call the P.E practicing engineer

What I'm saying is the job description of an engineer ...doesn't mean he can't do other things it he chose to

There is a Reason why engineering is only studied in the university and not polytechnics

You have mechanical engineering in the university
While you have mechanical engineering technology in polytechnics ....there are reasons for that those names are not formalities

the fact that engineers don't maintain or repair doesn't mean that they are not good at it, it's just division of labour. Sometimes your theory don't apply in the real world, so it takes someone who knows the job to correct this.

mrvitalis:

Bros yes you can do that ...but that's not the job description of an engineer na ..why can't you get this simple explanation

I understand you clearly, but it's you who is not seeing it from my view. This Idea of engineers don't maintain and repair has turned our engineering school to shit. That's the reason an electrical engineer doesn't even know how to layout a simple domestic wiring diagram or design. We feel it's all about integration and differentiation. Engineering is bigger than that now, go to the field and see how things are working, machines are being designed and assembled. How many of our engineers can carry out proper designs? They don't even know which components to use.

Emma15678:

Oga please give us one Anti-IPOB rhythm naa, why you dey deny us our right?

Lmaooooo! LWTMB

mastermaestro:


Show me one minister who has performed better than Amaechi. Hatred kills!

Dont mind him.

mrvitalis:

And engineering graduate can't attache B.Engr before his name ...he is just a graduate of engineering ...he official attach it after his name like PhD

You have to be a COREN certified engineer which your unique seal so that once they see your design any where in they world it would be attributed to you ...your design not practical work

You must have a B.Engr and minimum of five years working experience under a certified engineer to be approved by COREN

This isn't even the direction of the discourse.

The issue is, does being an engineer connote that one cannot perform repairs or maintenance tasks?

As in, you become too big to perform maintenance tasks because you are an engineer...

I know all those details you shared regarding COREN.

Good morning my fam in nairaland

CoolAmbience:


This isn't even the direction of the discourse.

The issue is, does being an engineer connote that one cannot perform repairs or maintenance tasks?

As in, you become too big to perform maintenance tasks because you are an engineer...

I know all those details you shared regarding COREN.

My argument ismaintenance is not the job description of an engineer simple

If those responsible for the damage locate them, OK repair at your risk.

Kudos

mrvitalis:
Technicians not engineers for heavens sake

Repair , maintaining and installation are not jobs of engineers but technicians

Why u dey take am so personal. U dey for there??

silento:


U claim to be educated and smart just look at rubbish u just vomitted also
He is correct u are the that need be checked for following the footsteps of lai Mohammad

The code word is "trust but verify". Every piece of information must undergo scrutiny before being accepted as a fact.
Even some long held scientific information were later discovered to be untrue.

Verification of information is an attribute of the truly educated, not people like you who swallow hook, line and sinker, whatever is being thrown at them.

The discussions here were very intellectual just before you came to display your lack of education.

Kellzzyy:


The code word is "trust but verify". Every piece of information must undergo scrutiny before being accepted as a fact.
Even some long held scientific information were later discovered to be untrue.

Verification of information is an attribute of the truly educated, not people like you who swallow hook, line and sinker, whatever is being thrown at them.

The discussions here were very intellectual just before you came to display your lack of education.

Who said engineering is not studied in polytechnics?

mrvitalis:

So to be an engineer I have to go to polytechnics ?
Why don't they study engineering in polytechnics ?
Smh

The thing is that no University in Nigeria does anything in track technology or track maintenance. Those who are carrying out those repairs were trained by Nigerian railway.

wwwihy:


https://twitter.com/OvieNews/status/1510302895325036551

God Bless Federal Republic of Nigeria

Detour2022:
Who said engineering is not studied in polytechnics?

What you have is engineering technology not engineering

My dear, an engr without technology is incapacitated as theory without practical is lame. Engineering technology is also what you get from University of science and technology. Research the aim of setting up universities of science and technology in Nigeria around 1980 and you will find out that technology is the core reason.

mrvitalis:

What you have is engineering technology not engineering

Detour2022:
My dear, an engr without technology is incapacitated as theory without practical is lame. Engineering technology is also what you get from University of science and technology. Research the aim of setting up universities of science and technology in Nigeria around 1980 and you will find out that technology is the core reason.

Are you talking your opinion or fact ? Smh

mrvitalis:

Sure they can but it's not the job description of an engineer doesn't mean engineers can't replace technicians if need be

A doctor can do the work of a nurse or pharmacist , or even lab scientists but that doesn't change the job description of a doctor

Notice the dress code for engineers n technicians ?

Engineers are theory, analysis and research based
Which is the difficult part

Technicians are mostly practical inclined which requires less brain power u are shown what to do n you do it

Engineers also do maintenance job. For that fact that Wikipedia excluded that in it's definition does not mean. It totally correct �.

https://www.onlineengineeringprograms.com/faq/what-do-engineers-do

mrvitalis:

My argument ismaintenance is not the job description of an engineer simple

Engineers also do maintenance job. It depends on the scope and magnitude of the effects and process involved.

dasparrow:
I am glad it is getting fixed but what is being put place to ensure that jihadists don't damage it again?

It will be damaged again and again and again. Unless almajiri breeding stops you can't have modernisation, it's as simple as that

mrvitalis:

OND holders in engineering technology

Technicians are journeymen or journeypersons.
E.g

https://www.workforce.nd.gov/workforce/apprenticeship/

https://www.cityandguilds.com/qualifications-and-apprenticeships#fil=uk

mrvitalis:
Technicians not engineers for heavens sake

Repair , maintaining and installation are not jobs of engineers but technicians

False

Legendforte:

Maintenance engineers

There are field engineers, test engineers, maintenance engineers, commissioning engineers, project enginees e.t.c

It's not easy to just look at the picture and conclude that those are technicians.


Technician, technologists and engineers work as a team and they would all be involved in fixing the rail line.

acorntree:


All comments here are absolutely right depending on the perspective individual look at it. In theory and according to guidelines established by each country engineering regulating body , engineers major role are majorly design, analysis, simulation etc. All these are only attained through knowledge gained from formal education upto Bsc or Msc in engineering or any other equivalent qualifications and professional registration. Technician roles are majorly repair, maintenance etc. A non registered Bsc or Msc holder can work as technician or technilogist in any engineering firm . It doesn't mean they are engineers by qualification. In actual sense using the definition of designer, innovators we can say we dont actually have real engineers in nigeria. Engineering practices is being abused in Nigeria where anyone fixing laptop, tv, gsm phones called themselves engineers. This is wrong, so the title should be Nigerian Technicians Repair The Damaged Section Of The Abuja-Kaduna Rail Track. Those repairing those rails are purely technician, one engineer may be with them as supervisor, to ensure quality work is done and according to previous design specifications

your write-up is correct, every engineers and technologists knows that. The op was making reference to the headline " Nigerian engineers repair the damaged section of Abuja-Kaduna rail track". The headlines is correct because the contract was giving to a Nigerian Engineering firm, and thus the firm is repairing the rail track.

Like I said mechanical engineers, design, test, analyse, maintain and build.

They build aircraft engines, robot, control system, gas/wind turbines, censors, compressors, e.t.c.

Jennyclay:
Buhari supporter like you.

May what happened to late Dr. Chinelo befall you and your family in the mighty name of our lord Jesus Christ. AMEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Now read my moniker, don't you ever in your life quote my moniker again!!!!!!

Nonsense!!!!!!!

death shall be your portion.

mrvitalis:

Lmao. You would never learn ...I was taught by professors from same MIT so relax

If you are trained by professors from MIT and you posseses this mentality.

Nonetheless, I see why the white are flourishing in building new technology why blacks who are taught by the same professor who taught the the same whites have nothing to show

is it all about fixing the rail line or fixing the security situation? I hope they won't send people to go and die again. I expect a huge military operation there before train service resumes. This government is either dumb and clueless or culpable by the way they are handling this matter. May be this is the next level they promised

Donshegxy10:


death shall be your portion.

I'm not an Evil woman, so death can't be my portion.

But YOU!!!... You're a serial evil Non-entity and death shall be your portion before the end of this year. Amen!!!!!!!!

Nonsense!!!

mrvitalis:

That's the job of technologist sir

You are misinterpreting the whole thing.

Every great Engineer I know and has come across has lab(Engineering workshop).

They design and implement,then confirm the system is working to required efficiency by constantly testing and making adjustments in paper design and real one(model). Carry out maintenance and written documents on how to install and train the technicians on how to safely install because they have done it over and over.

You can't design disaster and tell another man to go and bring it to live because it's his job.

Or employ technicians to come and be working in your lab to bring ideas to live(prototype) because it's written somewhere that it's and engineers Jobs.

In yakee all Engineers and technicians get educated in class and lab and encouraged to carry on after graduation..In many situations technicians are even the ones that spot flaws in Engineering designs (materials,structure and calculations)..