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Re: Nigerian Engineers Repair The Damaged Section Of The Abuja-Kaduna Rail Track by abiaumo(m): 2:56pm On Apr 03, 2022
This engineer vs technician argument makes sense o, I'm enjoying and learning too.
Re: Nigerian Engineers Repair The Damaged Section Of The Abuja-Kaduna Rail Track by Donshegxy10(m): 3:05pm On Apr 03, 2022
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Re: Nigerian Engineers Repair The Damaged Section Of The Abuja-Kaduna Rail Track by Jennyclay(f): 3:09pm On Apr 03, 2022
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Re: Nigerian Engineers Repair The Damaged Section Of The Abuja-Kaduna Rail Track by Donshegxy10(m): 3:12pm On Apr 03, 2022
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Re: Nigerian Engineers Repair The Damaged Section Of The Abuja-Kaduna Rail Track by Detour2022: 3:18pm On Apr 03, 2022
Fact
mrvitalis:

Are you talking your opinion or fact ? Smh
Re: Nigerian Engineers Repair The Damaged Section Of The Abuja-Kaduna Rail Track by Detour2022: 3:22pm On Apr 03, 2022
In the Nigerian context, civil engrs don't build or design houses. That's the job of builders and achitects . They also don't maintain buildings. Building maintenance falls under what is regarded as building works. Read the national building code.
Housing:


Engineers also do maintenance job. For that fact that Wikipedia excluded that in it's definition does not mean. It totally correct �.

https://www.onlineengineeringprograms.com/faq/what-do-engineers-do
Re: Nigerian Engineers Repair The Damaged Section Of The Abuja-Kaduna Rail Track by acorntree(m): 3:25pm On Apr 03, 2022
Lekan239:
your write-up is correct, every engineers and technologists knows that. The op was making reference to the headline " Nigerian engineers repair the damaged section of Abuja-Kaduna rail track". The headlines is correct because the contract was giving to a Nigerian Engineering firm, and thus the firm is repairing the rail track.

Like I said mechanical engineers, design, test, analyse, maintain and build.

They build engines, robot, control system, gas/wind turbines, censors, compressors, e.t.c.

Yes, because engineering is a team work. No particular one cadre in engineering is superior , each has their strength and weakness. Engineers in Industrial setting are designers, technician implementer, the technologist is intermediary. Engineer should be well grounded in theories, I can say like 80% theories, 20% practical, for technician 20% theories, 80% practical , for technologist 60% theories, 40% practicals. Most engineering curriculum are designed accordingly. Note the word 'build' as used in your assertion that mechanical engineer do build engines, robot etc doesn't mean engineer is the only one who carried out these activities. Engineering is a team work.

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Re: Nigerian Engineers Repair The Damaged Section Of The Abuja-Kaduna Rail Track by acorntree(m): 3:42pm On Apr 03, 2022
Xmen149:


You are misinterpreting the whole thing.

Every great Engineer I know and has come across has lab(Engineering workshop).

They design and implement,then confirm the system is working to required efficiency by constantly testing and making adjustments in paper design and real one(model). Carry out maintenance and written documents on how to install and train the technicians on how to safely install because they have done it over and over.

You can't design disaster and tell another man to go and bring it to live because it's his job.

Or employ technicians to come and be working in your lab to bring ideas to live(prototype) because it's written somewhere that it's and engineers Jobs.

In yakee all Engineers and technicians get educated in class and lab and encouraged to carry on after graduation..In many situations technicians are even the ones that spot flaws in Engineering designs (materials,structure and calculations)..

Engineers are scientist and so are expected to work in laboratory or workshop if there work demand that. Engineering is a team work so in the lab or workshop there will still be many technicians working with the Engineer. Engineer don't work alone as most of you postulate and not jack of all trades. This doesn't mean engineers doesn't work as technician. If the work demand working alone he can design , build , test , do analysis etc

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Re: Nigerian Engineers Repair The Damaged Section Of The Abuja-Kaduna Rail Track by Lekan239(m): 3:46pm On Apr 03, 2022
acorntree:


Yes, because engineering is a team work. No particular one cadre in engineering is superior , each has their strength and weakness. Engineers in Industrial setting are designers, technician implementer, the technologist is intermediary. Engineer should be well grounded in theories, I can say like 80% theories, 20% practical, for technician 20% theories, 80% practical , for technologist 60% theories, 40% practicals. Most engineering curriculum are designed accordingly. Note the word 'build' as used in your assertion that mechanical engineer do build engines, robot etc doesn't mean engineer is the only one who carried out these activities. Engineering is a team work.
yes, also attaining greater heights in engineering where you will just be monitoring the technologist and technician is a step by step procedure same as other discipline. A new grad of law sch can't start as a judge, u don't expect a fresh grad of medicine to start taking complex surgeries just like that, you don't expect a 16 year old footballer to win world best. So in engineering there are some phases you have to past through before you become boss that will just be monitoring and analysing problems.

There is no engineer without his/her technologist and no technologists without his/her technician

I wonder why the guy said engineers are just meant to design and carry out research.

In Nigeria, Polytechnic curriculum is exactly same as the University curriculum. Same theoretical aspect. The only difference is polytechnic has 1year IT years why the university only has 6 months or so
Re: Nigerian Engineers Repair The Damaged Section Of The Abuja-Kaduna Rail Track by Detour2022: 3:46pm On Apr 03, 2022
The work with craftsmen/technicians.
acorntree:


Engineers are scientist and so are expected to work in laboratory or workshop if there work demand that. Engineering is a team work so in the lab or workshop there will still be many technicians working with the Engineer. Engineer don't work alone as most of you postulate and not jack of all trades. This doesn't mean engineers doesn't work as technician. If the work demand working alone he can design , build , test , do analysis etc
Re: Nigerian Engineers Repair The Damaged Section Of The Abuja-Kaduna Rail Track by VirileNelly2420: 3:47pm On Apr 03, 2022
mrvitalis:

It's one thing to be ignorant but it's another thing to refuse knowledge
But, if u employ a lawyer as a solicitor and "caretaker" of ur house, does it stop him from being a lawyer? ... maybe be seeing as just a caretaker?

I think an engineers are employed as technician.

Or is there a course called technician in University? ...pardon me if there is.
Re: Nigerian Engineers Repair The Damaged Section Of The Abuja-Kaduna Rail Track by DaInferno(m): 3:54pm On Apr 03, 2022
mrvitalis:
Technicians not engineers for heavens sake

Repair , maintaining and installation are not jobs of engineers but technicians
grin grin shotop ur mauth for heavens sake
Re: Nigerian Engineers Repair The Damaged Section Of The Abuja-Kaduna Rail Track by Housing(m): 3:54pm On Apr 03, 2022
Detour2022:
In the Nigerian context, civil engrs don't build or design houses. That's the job of builders and achitects . They also don't maintain buildings. Building maintenance falls under what is regarded as building works. Read the national building code.

It's not about Civil Engineering alone, Software Engineers do maintain software. So Mrvitalis stands don't do maintenance job is the reason for the quote. Engineering jobs do not start and ends with Civil engineering work alone.
Re: Nigerian Engineers Repair The Damaged Section Of The Abuja-Kaduna Rail Track by acorntree(m): 4:04pm On Apr 03, 2022
Lekan239:
yes, also attaining greater heights in engineering where you will just be monitoring the technologist and technician is a step by step procedure same as other discipline. A new grad of law sch can't start as a judge, u don't expect a fresh grad of medicine to start taking complex surgeries just like that, you don't expect a 16 year old footballer to win world best. So in engineering there are some phases you have to past through before you become boss that will just be monitoring and analysing problems.

There is no engineer without his/her technologist and no technologists without his/her technician

I wonder why the guy said engineers are just meant to design and carry out research.

In Nigeria, Polytechnic curriculum is exactly same as the University curriculum. Same theoretical aspect. The only difference is polytechnic has 1year IT years why the university only has 6 months or so

Yes experience count. No one can be an expert just out of school. Further training on the field and experience is what will make one to stand out , and that's also the reason to register with the professional body and Keeping up to date on new things in the field. Just having Bsc or MEng or so doesn't make you an engineer. On the engineering curriculum, polytechnic curriculum look similar to university but not the same. The theoretical contents are different. These have been creating a gap in the the two output produced , though most of the theories taught in Nigeria universities are just garbage in garbage out.
Re: Nigerian Engineers Repair The Damaged Section Of The Abuja-Kaduna Rail Track by Detour2022: 4:19pm On Apr 03, 2022
Pls who are these technologists?
Lekan239:
yes, also attaining greater heights in engineering where you will just be monitoring the technologist and technician is a step by step procedure same as other discipline. A new grad of law sch can't start as a judge, u don't expect a fresh grad of medicine to start taking complex surgeries just like that, you don't expect a 16 year old footballer to win world best. So in engineering there are some phases you have to past through before you become boss that will just be monitoring and analysing problems.

There is no engineer without his/her technologist and no technologists without his/her technician

I wonder why the guy said engineers are just meant to design and carry out research.

In Nigeria, Polytechnic curriculum is exactly same as the University curriculum. Same theoretical aspect. The only difference is polytechnic has 1year IT years why the university only has 6 months or so
Re: Nigerian Engineers Repair The Damaged Section Of The Abuja-Kaduna Rail Track by Goodcitizen99(m): 4:47pm On Apr 03, 2022
wwwihy:


https://twitter.com/OvieNews/status/1510302895325036551

God Bless Federal Republic of Nigeria
nice development
Re: Nigerian Engineers Repair The Damaged Section Of The Abuja-Kaduna Rail Track by Lekan239(m): 6:03pm On Apr 03, 2022
acorntree:


Yes experience count. No one can be an expert just out of school. Further training on the field and experience is what will make one to stand out , and that's also the reason to register with the professional body and Keeping up to date on new things in the field. Just having Bsc or MEng or so doesn't make you an engineer. On the engineering curriculum, polytechnic curriculum look similar to university but not the same. The theoretical contents are different. These have been creating a gap in the the two output produced , though most of the theories taught in Nigeria universities are just garbage in garbage out.
that's true
Re: Nigerian Engineers Repair The Damaged Section Of The Abuja-Kaduna Rail Track by acorntree(m): 6:23pm On Apr 03, 2022
Detour2022:
Pls who are these technologists?

An engineering technologist is a professional who physically builds what an engineer designs. They are advanced technician. In Nigeria context, they are the HND holders in engineering but Bsc holders at times with lower grade, can also be employed as technologist. Their roles is almost like that of an engineer but at a lower level. They still need to be supervised while carrying out their duties.


A typical roles of mechanical engineering technologist is seen here



https://www.myplan.com/careers/mechanical-engineering-technologists/description-17-3029.07.html

Differences between engineer and technologist can be found here

https://www.indeed.com/career-advice/finding-a-job/technologist-to-engineer
Re: Nigerian Engineers Repair The Damaged Section Of The Abuja-Kaduna Rail Track by kafeii123: 6:58pm On Apr 03, 2022
Chinese artisans will build ...supervise and install.... Nigerian Engineers will repair.... may it not be well for all those who turned Nigerian public Education into this kind of mess
Re: Nigerian Engineers Repair The Damaged Section Of The Abuja-Kaduna Rail Track by nurain150(m): 10:52pm On Apr 03, 2022
mrvitalis:

Sure they can but it's not the job description of an engineer doesn't mean engineers can't replace technicians if need be

A doctor can do the work of a nurse or pharmacist , or even lab scientists but that doesn't change the job description of a doctor

Notice the dress code for engineers n technicians ?

Engineers are theory, analysis and research based
Which is the difficult part

Technicians are mostly practical inclined which requires less brain power u are shown what to do n you do it

You are deluded. You don't even know what a nurse do. Or a Pharmacist. Lol

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Re: Nigerian Engineers Repair The Damaged Section Of The Abuja-Kaduna Rail Track by Updating9JA: 11:32pm On Apr 03, 2022
mrvitalis:

Sure they can but it's not the job description of an engineer doesn't mean engineers can't replace technicians if need be

A doctor can do the work of a nurse or pharmacist , or even lab scientists but that doesn't change the job description of a doctor

Notice the dress code for engineers n technicians ? Bedtime Prayers

Engineers are theory, analysis and research based
Which is the difficult part

Technicians are mostly practical inclined which requires less brain power u are shown what to do n you do it
Re: Nigerian Engineers Repair The Damaged Section Of The Abuja-Kaduna Rail Track by edosignature(m): 12:09am On Apr 04, 2022
Get your fact right man.


mrvitalis:
Technicians not engineers for heavens sake

Repair , maintaining and installation are not jobs of engineers but technicians
Re: Nigerian Engineers Repair The Damaged Section Of The Abuja-Kaduna Rail Track by ustanejnr(m): 1:12am On Apr 04, 2022
Are you in that field, or assuming base on google.
mrvitalis:
Technicians not engineers for heavens sake

Repair , maintaining and installation are not jobs of engineers but technicians
Re: Nigerian Engineers Repair The Damaged Section Of The Abuja-Kaduna Rail Track by 9jaRealist: 1:35am On Apr 04, 2022
mrvitalis:
Technicians not engineers for heavens sake

Repair , maintaining and installation are not jobs of engineers but technicians

Sadly, the typical Nigerian mindset…SMH shocked

Here in the US (and many parts of the world), engineers often wear overalls and get their hands dirty…
In Nigeria, they mostly wear suit and tie, sit in an office, reading newspapers and demanding “Engr” before their names.

>

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Re: Nigerian Engineers Repair The Damaged Section Of The Abuja-Kaduna Rail Track by goslowgoslow(m): 1:58am On Apr 04, 2022
mrvitalis:

Sure they can but it's not the job description of an engineer doesn't mean engineers can't replace technicians if need be

A doctor can do the work of a nurse or pharmacist , or even lab scientists but that doesn't change the job description of a doctor

Notice the dress code for engineers n technicians ?

Engineers are theory, analysis and research based
Which is the difficult part

Technicians are mostly practical inclined which requires less brain power u are shown what to do n you do it
You are saying technical work requires less brain power, you are shown what to do and you just do it!
Really? Just like that? Who tells them what to do? You think it is easy to fix a technical problem?
People like you cannot differentiate between live and neutral and so so mouth and to look down on people.

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Re: Nigerian Engineers Repair The Damaged Section Of The Abuja-Kaduna Rail Track by Honestfrend: 3:50am On Apr 04, 2022
LeoDeKing:
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Engineers do carry out maintenance activities.




Don't mind him, he doesn't know what he his saying.
Re: Nigerian Engineers Repair The Damaged Section Of The Abuja-Kaduna Rail Track by Almaigaa: 5:51am On Apr 04, 2022
mrvitalis:
Technicians not engineers for heavens sake

Repair , maintaining and installation are not jobs of engineers but technicians

This IPOB SYMPERTIZER is always pained about any good news from Nigeria. He wants Nigeria to remain stagnant and underdeveloped as the South East States. grin grin grin

Nigeria is moving forward as a great Nation but, the South East kept drawing us backward.

Re: Nigerian Engineers Repair The Damaged Section Of The Abuja-Kaduna Rail Track by mrvitalis(m): 7:49am On Apr 04, 2022
9jaRealist:


Sadly, the typical Nigerian mindset…SMH shocked

Here in the US (and many parts of the world), engineers often wear overalls and get their hands dirty…
In Nigeria, they mostly wear suit and tie, sit in an office, reading newspapers and demanding “Engr” before their names.

>
Oga you can never see a P.E wearing overalls stop saying what you don't know

Because you read engineering in the university doesn't make you an engineer yet
Re: Nigerian Engineers Repair The Damaged Section Of The Abuja-Kaduna Rail Track by wasuka14(m): 11:26pm On Apr 05, 2022
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Re: Nigerian Engineers Repair The Damaged Section Of The Abuja-Kaduna Rail Track by Davida33: 7:37pm On Apr 25, 2022
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