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Re: Catholic Church Believes In Separation From Bed, Not Divorce - Father Oluoma by Kingcalls: 5:43am On Apr 14, 2022
The female mods on this platform are very stupid... they dint allow me repost on a particular thread concerning a woman leaving her fiance cos she said she was abused...

Alot of women and simps replied me , challenging me opinion ... women don't talk or challenge other women when they abuse maids , kill them , maim them ...these are defenseless kids that are being abused every minute in this country... they dont see that as domestic violence, but when a man does same to a woman , they creep out from their holes like coacroaches ... women are being so disgusting by the day... they have refused to correct their stupid way of reasoning... how can u as a woman think its OK for a woman for emotionally abuse a man or disrespect a man or abuse him with ur mouth or even hit a man and expect the man not to retaliate, like they think men are the maids they physically abuse daily.... women just want to eat their cake and have it.... and men need to stand their ground... if a woman has the courage to insult a man, she should also prepare for what is coming for her... u cant be preaching for a man not to hit a woman and at the same time feel its ok for a woman to insult a man... men should stop allowing themselves to be manipulated by women ... in South America or Asia or Eastern Europe or the Middle East, women dare not insult men... but these foolish Nigerian women think the world revolves around America and western Europe....

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Re: Catholic Church Believes In Separation From Bed, Not Divorce - Father Oluoma by ZUBY77(m): 5:44am On Apr 14, 2022
Must everybody get married?
Re: Catholic Church Believes In Separation From Bed, Not Divorce - Father Oluoma by fastseo: 5:53am On Apr 14, 2022
DrLazCommenting:
The same God that told a muslim to marry ten wives told a Christian not to marry more than one in a lifetime. He then told a Muslim that taking alcohol is a sin and told a Christian that alcohol is Godly.
Religion is just an opium of the masses. Common sense should decide in most situations.

That should tell you that its not the same God we serve.
Its like saying that Christians are worshipping same God with Buddhism and their likes.

Please know your God. And accept your Lord jesus and remain bless

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Re: Catholic Church Believes In Separation From Bed, Not Divorce - Father Oluoma by NickD(m): 5:57am On Apr 14, 2022
backnbeta:
Nullify: make legally null and void; invalidate.
Divorce the legal dissolution of a marriage by a court or other competent body.

Nullify, don't divorce ... what's the difference?
They are one and the same, dear Catholic brethrens!

Separation is okay for a while, but if their hearts don't grow fonder for each other, better to just make your marriage legally null and void or legally dissolve the marriage
There are grounds for nullification of marriage in the Catholic Church example if one spouse hides certain critical information (could be health status or having children without knowledge of the partner, anything enshrined with lies etc) that might make his or her partner decide against going into the union from the start. It is entirely different from divorce. You're not Catholic so you might not understand.
Re: Catholic Church Believes In Separation From Bed, Not Divorce - Father Oluoma by anbib: 6:03am On Apr 14, 2022
I lost an uncle to domestic violence 3years ago (not physical though). He died in silence emotionally because he was not happy in the marriage & had hope things will get better because he was a part-time pastor with Christ Embassy. Family members & friends adviced him that even their founder's wife left him. Because of his wife, no family members get mind visit him when he was alive

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Re: Catholic Church Believes In Separation From Bed, Not Divorce - Father Oluoma by Globad(f): 6:06am On Apr 14, 2022
fastseo:


That should tell you that its not the same God we serve.
Its like saying that Christians are worshipping same God with Buddhism and their likes.

Please know your God. And accept your Lord jesus and remain bless

How many gods then exist?

Don't forget there were also religions before Christianity came just "yesterday" (about 2000 years ago).
Re: Catholic Church Believes In Separation From Bed, Not Divorce - Father Oluoma by jeff1607(m): 6:08am On Apr 14, 2022
Now that divorce is on the trend, many people will use the littlest of complaint in their home to ask for a divorce,

The one propagating this divorce Ish are the already divorced ones and they are now making people see reason why they left their spouses and kids, if life is in danger by all means run move away , the kids you brought in this world would feel the impact.

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Re: Catholic Church Believes In Separation From Bed, Not Divorce - Father Oluoma by Nobody: 6:10am On Apr 14, 2022
fastseo:


That should tell you that its not the same God we serve.
Its like saying that Christians are worshipping same God with Buddhism and their likes.

Please know your God. And accept your Lord jesus and remain bless
From what i understand. Prophet Mohammed(S.A.W) said that if a man has the mean he can have more than one wife but he must love them equally(which to me is the most impossible thing to do).
Re: Catholic Church Believes In Separation From Bed, Not Divorce - Father Oluoma by LordReed(m): 6:11am On Apr 14, 2022
Re: Catholic Church Believes In Separation From Bed, Not Divorce - Father Oluoma by Ate247(m): 6:12am On Apr 14, 2022
blazingblender:
.fr oluoma
The only priest that speaks for the people
The Catholic Church don't practice divorce
So what is the difference between nullification and divorce kwanu??
the father doesn't understand English.
Re: Catholic Church Believes In Separation From Bed, Not Divorce - Father Oluoma by tete7000(m): 6:24am On Apr 14, 2022
hakeem4:
The catholic church is one of the most confused cult in the world.

We all could remember 1996 when there was a referendum in the Irish republic, If the state's constitution should prohibit divorce ó o cffr not? They did so for 2 primary reasons.

1) It was no longer thought right that the Roman Catholic Church should legislate its morality for all citizens.

2)It was obviously impossible even to hope for eventual Irish reuni- fication if the large Protestant minority in the North was continually repelled by the possibility of clerical rule.

Mother Teresa flew all the way from Calcutta to help campaign, along with the church and its hard-liners, for a “no” vote. In other words, an Irish woman married to a wife-beating and incestuous drunk should never expect anything better, and might endanger her soul if she begged for a fresh start, while as for the Protestants, they could either choose the blessings of Rome or stay out altogether.

The referendum eventu- ally amended the constitution, though by the narrowest of majori- ties. (Mother Teresa in the same year gave an interview saying that she hoped her friend Princess Diana would be happier after she had escaped from what was an obviously miserable marriage, but it’s less of a surprise to find the church applying sterner laws to the poor, or offering indulgences to the rich.)


If anyone is confused, no one is more confused than you. You are not catholic but you are full of bitterness and anger against a church you do not belong, why not leave catholics to grapple with their palaver? An ordained catholic priest tells you official church doctrine, you are uttering gilberrish about mother Theresa and Diana. Was Diana a catholic or mother Theresa official spoke person for the church? Face your life' and leave catholic to worry about their church matter.

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Re: Catholic Church Believes In Separation From Bed, Not Divorce - Father Oluoma by informatica(m): 6:26am On Apr 14, 2022
The sentence/verse "God hates divorce" (Malachi 2:16) did not appear in the Bible before 1611 when the King James Bible was published. Many Bible scholars consider the translation erroneous or an interpolation. That is why many versions of the Bible do not have the sentence.

Christian Standard Bible (CSB) translates the same verse thus: “If he hates and divorces his wife,” says the Lord God of Israel, “he covers his garment with injustice,” says the Lord of Armies. Therefore, watch yourselves carefully, and do not act treacherously.

English Standard Version (ESV) translates the same verse as “For the man who does not love his wife but divorces her, says the LORD, the God of Israel, covers his garment with violence, says the LORD of hosts. So guard yourselves in your spirit, and do not be faithless.”

New International Version 2011 (NIV) translates it as “The man who hates and divorces his wife,” says the LORD, the God of Israel, “does violence to the one he should protect,” says the LORD Almighty. So be on your guard, and do not be unfaithful.

It is important to understand that the books that make up the Bible were originally written in ancient languages such as Hebrew and Greek. The meanings of some of the words have changed. The books were translated into Latin and later into English. It is not far-fetched that some of the translators erred. Human beings are not infallible. Some of them may have had ulterior motive in translating some verses of the Bible.

It is important to pay attention to the context under which some biblical laws or statements were made. A thorough reading of Malachi 2 will show that the verse is about God's rebuke of Jewish men who divorced their wives without cause in order to marry foreign women after the exile. The book of Malachi was written 500 years before Christ. Some laws in the Bible were given to address a particular situation in ancient times.

Biblical grounds for divorce
1. In Mathew 19: 9 (ESV) and Mathew 5: 31 – 32 (ESV), the Bible says “And I say to you: whoever divorces his wife, except for sexual immorality, and marries another commits adultery.”
The Greek word translated as “sexual immorality” is porneia; It includes prostitution, adultery, incest, bestiality, homosexual and lesbian activities.
2. Divorce is allowed on the ground of abandonment. See 1 Corinthians 7:14—15 (NIV).
3. The law of Moses allowed divorce in Exodus 21:10, 11 (NIV) on the ground of neglect or abuse in marriage.

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Re: Catholic Church Believes In Separation From Bed, Not Divorce - Father Oluoma by backnbeta(f): 6:28am On Apr 14, 2022
NickD:

There are grounds for nullification of marriage in the Catholic Church example if one spouse hides certain critical information (could be health status or having children without knowledge of the partner, anything enshrined with lies etc) that might make his or her partner decide against going into the union from the start. It is entirely different from divorce. You're not Catholic so you might not understand.
Thanks, I get your point. My point here is in relation to a wedding not based on lies. If you are in an abusive marriage, you will divorce and not nullify because you are terminating the contract. But from the Catholic point of view, I'm guessing a woman in an abusive marriage has to separate or endure. But a woman or man who was deceived into a marriage can call for nullification based on the lies. Like you said, I'm not a Catholic and it may be difficult for me to understand. Thanks all the same.
Re: Catholic Church Believes In Separation From Bed, Not Divorce - Father Oluoma by Teymanhenry(f): 6:31am On Apr 14, 2022
[quote author=SmartPolician post=111928924]

Any church that promotes divorce has its agenda because that's not the will of God. God doesn't support divorce; no church should. Separation is not divorce. The former doesn't lead to the latter automatically. People separate, miss each other, and still make up after sorting out their issues. Let's not forget that. [/

God has given man the grace to tackle such situations, and if the church sees divorce as the best option, then it is bound by heaven as the best option. What is bound on earth is bound in heaven, what is loosed on earth is loosed in heaven
Re: Catholic Church Believes In Separation From Bed, Not Divorce - Father Oluoma by IamANigerianMan: 6:37am On Apr 14, 2022
hakeem4:
The catholic church is one of the most confused cult in the world.

We all could remember 1996 when there was a referendum in the Irish republic, If the state's constitution should prohibit divorce or not? They did so for 2 primary reasons.

1) It was no longer thought right that the Roman Catholic Church should legislate its morality for all citizens.

2)It was obviously impossible even to hope for eventual Irish reuni- fication if the large Protestant minority in the North was continually repelled by the possibility of clerical rule.

Mother Teresa flew all the way from Calcutta to help campaign, along with the church and its hard-liners, for a “no” vote. In other words, an Irish woman married to a wife-beating and incestuous drunk should never expect anything better, and might endanger her soul if she begged for a fresh start, while as for the Protestants, they could either choose the blessings of Rome or stay out altogether.

The referendum eventu- ally amended the constitution, though by the narrowest of majori- ties. (Mother Teresa in the same year gave an interview saying that she hoped her friend Princess Diana would be happier after she had escaped from what was an obviously miserable marriage, but it’s less of a surprise to find the church applying sterner laws to the poor, or offering indulgences to the rich.)

Catholic cult? just because you don't belong to the congregation, you are stupid... Leave them for God sake

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Re: Catholic Church Believes In Separation From Bed, Not Divorce - Father Oluoma by Chemicalsolo: 6:37am On Apr 14, 2022
The Catholic Church is so organized that you cannot bring an issue that has not addressed in more than two ways in the code of Canon law.
Nullification means to dissolve. A marriage can be nullified if it was not instituted on truth. Let's say a man is impotent, he knows that too well but refuses to tell his partner, he goes on to wed her and later she finds out. If she so desires the wedding can be nullified because it was based on lies.

The Church is built on Christ and the gates of hell shall not prevail. Some business centers called new generation churches are the said gates of hell.
Thank you

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Re: Catholic Church Believes In Separation From Bed, Not Divorce - Father Oluoma by oofjm: 6:39am On Apr 14, 2022
hakeem4:
The catholic church is one of the most confused cult in the world.

We all could remember 1996 when there was a referendum in the Irish republic, If the state's constitution should prohibit divorce or not? They did so for 2 primary reasons.

1) It was no longer thought right that the Roman Catholic Church should legislate its morality for all citizens.

2)It was obviously impossible even to hope for eventual Irish reuni- fication if the large Protestant minority in the North was continually repelled by the possibility of clerical rule.

Mother Teresa flew all the way from Calcutta to help campaign, along with the church and its hard-liners, for a “no” vote. In other words, an Irish woman married to a wife-beating and incestuous drunk should never expect anything better, and might endanger her soul if she begged for a fresh start, while as for the Protestants, they could either choose the blessings of Rome or stay out altogether.

The referendum eventu- ally amended the constitution, though by the narrowest of majori- ties. (Mother Teresa in the same year gave an interview saying that she hoped her friend Princess Diana would be happier after she had escaped from what was an obviously miserable marriage, but it’s less of a surprise to find the church applying sterner laws to the poor, or offering indulgences to the rich.)

u r calling the first church confuse church....church that has his doctrine and traditions.....try to make ur valid point without being abusive.....I think is better that way,don't u think so.....

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Re: Catholic Church Believes In Separation From Bed, Not Divorce - Father Oluoma by Nobody: 6:46am On Apr 14, 2022
hakeem4 post=111928932[s:
]The catholic church is one of the most confused cult in the world[/s].

We all could remember 1996 when there was a referendum in the Irish republic, If the state's constitution should prohibit divorce or not? They did so for 2 primary reasons.

1) It was no longer thought right that the Roman Catholic Church should legislate its morality for all citizens.

2)It was obviously impossible even to hope for eventual Irish reuni- fication if the large Protestant minority in the North was continually repelled by the possibility of clerical rule.

Mother Teresa flew all the way from Calcutta to help campaign, along with the church and its hard-liners, for a “no” vote. In other words, an Irish woman married to a wife-beating and incestuous drunk should never expect anything better, and might endanger her soul if she begged for a fresh start, while as for the Protestants, they could either choose the blessings of Rome or stay out altogether.

The referendum eventu- ally amended the constitution, though by the narrowest of majori- ties. (Mother Teresa in the same year gave an interview saying that she hoped her friend Princess Diana would be happier after she had escaped from what was an obviously miserable marriage, but it’s less of a surprise to find the church applying sterner laws to the poor, or offering indulgences to the rich.)


When a child will open his useless mouth to speak against an institution that is older than his 4 generation in a negative way, then you should know he or she is cursed.

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Re: Catholic Church Believes In Separation From Bed, Not Divorce - Father Oluoma by obedience4(m): 6:48am On Apr 14, 2022
hakeem4:
The catholic church is one of the most confused cult in the world.

We all could remember 1996 when there was a referendum in the Irish republic, If the state's constitution should prohibit divorce or not? They did so for 2 primary reasons.

1) It was no longer thought right that the Roman Catholic Church should legislate its morality for all citizens.

2)It was obviously impossible even to hope for eventual Irish reuni- fication if the large Protestant minority in the North was continually repelled by the possibility of clerical rule.

Mother Teresa flew all the way from Calcutta to help campaign, along with the church and its hard-liners, for a “no” vote. In other words, an Irish woman married to a wife-beating and incestuous drunk should never expect anything better, and might endanger her soul if she begged for a fresh start, while as for the Protestants, they could either choose the blessings of Rome or stay out altogether.

The referendum eventu- ally amended the constitution, though by the narrowest of majori- ties. (Mother Teresa in the same year gave an interview saying that she hoped her friend Princess Diana would be happier after she had escaped from what was an obviously miserable marriage, but it’s less of a surprise to find the church applying sterner laws to the poor, or offering indulgences to the rich.)


Are you a Christian??
Re: Catholic Church Believes In Separation From Bed, Not Divorce - Father Oluoma by Ayomi90: 6:52am On Apr 14, 2022
SmartPolician:


Any church that promotes divorce has their agenda because that's not the will of God. God doesn't support divorce; no church should. Separation is not divorce. The former doesn't lead to the latter automatically. People separate, miss each other and still make up after sorting out their issues. Let's not forget that.
Do you read your Bible at all abi na priest you dey read?
Re: Catholic Church Believes In Separation From Bed, Not Divorce - Father Oluoma by Tobechuckwu(m): 6:53am On Apr 14, 2022
My personal opinion is that, yes God hates divorce the same way God hates sin .
That God hates something doesn't mean it is done anyway bcuz as much as God hates sin, many pple daily commit sinful acts.

Once there's domestic violence in a marriage, it's better to take a break , call it divorce or separation, it's better to gain ur sanity back first.

As much as God hates sin, God doesn't want sinners to die, but to come to repentance. This shows that death is wat God hates d most.
So it's better to commit d "lesser sin of divorce than to stay in an abusive marriage that might lead to ur death eventually".

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Re: Catholic Church Believes In Separation From Bed, Not Divorce - Father Oluoma by Nigerianfactor: 6:56am On Apr 14, 2022
phemmyfour:
Wrong interpretation

"God hates divorce" does not means he doesn't ALLOW it. Divorce was part of the law

Mt 19:8
He said to them, “Because of your hardness of heart Moses allowed you to divorce your wives, but from the beginning it was not so.

You spoke well but you left out the ONLY EXCEPTION to the "no divorce rule" which is given in the next verse (Mt 19:9). Jesus said, "I say to you, that whoever divorces his wife (or husband) EXCEPT on the grounds of sexual immorality, and marries another commits adultery."

What this simply means is that if your husband commits adultery or fornication, you may divorce him if you choose to. You can also forgive him if you wish and you have done no wrong.

But then, you cannot divorce your mate based on" irreconcilable differences" as so many people do. Rather, you can separate from your husband if he is violent and abusive, if he deliberately refuses to provide for you and your children (1 Timothy 5 vs 8,, ), and in a few other cases. When you separate, there is a chance in reconciliation and reunitification or permanently remaining unmarried.
Re: Catholic Church Believes In Separation From Bed, Not Divorce - Father Oluoma by CSTRR: 6:58am On Apr 14, 2022
That is why it is very important to know the will of God before getting married.

Don't get married because he is dark tall and handsome, spends money and makes you laugh

Marry because he is the will of God.

God hates divorce. That is why he said do not be unequally yoked with unbelievers.
So that you will not face fire in your marriage.

Marry a true child of God with the fruits of the spirit.
A man with meekness and love will not slap his wife in marriage.
Re: Catholic Church Believes In Separation From Bed, Not Divorce - Father Oluoma by phemmyfour: 7:00am On Apr 14, 2022
Nigerianfactor:


You spoke well but you left out the ONLY EXCEPTION to the "no divorce rule" which is given in the next verse (Mt 19:9). Jesus said, "I say to you, that whoever divorces his wife (or husband) EXCEPT on the grounds of sexual immorality, and marries another commits adultery."

What this simply means is that if your husband commits adultery or fornication, you may divorce him if you choose to. You can also forgive him if you wish and you have done no wrong.

But then, you cannot divorce your mate based on" irreconcilable differences" as so many people do. Rather, you can separate from your husband if he is violent and abusive, if he deliberately refuses to provide for you and your children (1 Timothy 5:cool, and in a few other cases. When you separate, there is a chance in reconciliation and reunitification or permanently remaining unmarried.
Whoever divorce HIS WIFE.....The question here is how many men married their wife?

How many people living together were "JOINED TOGETHER" by God and not Church altar
Re: Catholic Church Believes In Separation From Bed, Not Divorce - Father Oluoma by CSTRR: 7:01am On Apr 14, 2022
And for those that have entered fire by mistake.

Pack your bags and run. Don't wait.

God understands.

Na who dey alive dey serve God and fulfill Destiny.
Re: Catholic Church Believes In Separation From Bed, Not Divorce - Father Oluoma by Acidosis(m): 7:02am On Apr 14, 2022
For marriage to happen, a magistrate or a clergy must be involved.

For divorce to happen, it takes only the presence of the magistrate, not the clergy.

Whether your pastor believes in divorce or not, he can't help you with that process, so use your head. He has no legal powers to break your marriage.

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Re: Catholic Church Believes In Separation From Bed, Not Divorce - Father Oluoma by fastseo: 7:03am On Apr 14, 2022
Globad:


How many gods then exist?

Don't forget there were also religions before Christianity came just "yesterday" (about 2000 years ago).

Are u following religion or you are following Jesus who promises you eternal life?
Please leave religion, occultism and the rest that are sustained by diverse powers in the universe and fallen demons who claim to be gods and follows jesus who is the way, the truth and the life, he who came to destroy the works of the devil.

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Re: Catholic Church Believes In Separation From Bed, Not Divorce - Father Oluoma by jmoore(m): 7:03am On Apr 14, 2022
Catholic Church is different from the Bible.



God doesn't hate divorce.

God hates domestic violence!!

God hates cruelty!!

Separation, nullification and divorce are same thing.

Until Christians learn to read the main verses as they were written, most will be misled by wrong translations of some Bible verses.
Re: Catholic Church Believes In Separation From Bed, Not Divorce - Father Oluoma by GreyLaw(m): 7:04am On Apr 14, 2022
SmartPolician:


Any church that promotes divorce has their agenda because that's not the will of God. God doesn't support divorce; no church should. Separation is not divorce. The former doesn't lead to the latter automatically. People separate, miss each other and still make up after sorting out their issues. Let's not forget that.

If I may ask, did Jesus talk about divorce? If he did, which book, chapter and verse did he talk about it, and then what did he say about divorce. Thanks in advance.
Re: Catholic Church Believes In Separation From Bed, Not Divorce - Father Oluoma by DKM123: 7:05am On Apr 14, 2022
EBMedia:


https://igberetvnews.com/1418039/catholic-church-believes-separation-bed-divorce-rev-father-oluoma/



I love the Catholic church but they still have to work on this part of it's doctrine because it stipulates that the partners do not remarry after such a "divorce" unless the marriage is annulled (which means it never happened).

A woman who is going through domestic violence and who knows she is not allowed to remarry when she leaves her abusive husband has the tendency to make the wrong decision of staying put in the marriage.
Re: Catholic Church Believes In Separation From Bed, Not Divorce - Father Oluoma by GreyLaw(m): 7:05am On Apr 14, 2022
jmoore:
Catholic Church is different from the Bible.



God doesn't hate divorce.

God hates domestic violence!!

God hates cruelty!!

Separation, nullification and divorce are same thing.

Until Christians learn to read the main verses as they were written, most will be misled by wrong translations of some Bible verses.

Many have not read their Bibles. All they know is what their pastor taught them. They have not bothered to study the Bible. Speciation and divorce are different, but there are legitimate grounds for divorce in the Bible. And when I say Bible, I am referring to the New testament. Of course the Old testament is also the Bible, but I am making it clear where I am taking my reference from.
Re: Catholic Church Believes In Separation From Bed, Not Divorce - Father Oluoma by CSTRR: 7:06am On Apr 14, 2022
Normalise knowing the will of God before you marry.

God likes you more than you like yourself.
He has bigger plans for you than you have for yourself.

But when you are already fornicating with the man you just met because you like him, God go just dey look you.

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