Nigerianfactor:


Read your Bible at Mathew 19:9. He said there is only one reason why you can divorce your marriage partner - sexual immorality (having sex with persons you are not married to)

Thank you. Someone said God never allows divorce and I wanted to point out that God permits divorce on certain issues.

In Mattew 19: 19 the word fornication in the original Greek rendering as used by Jesus is "porneia" and it means harlotry, incest, adultery. So on these three grounds divorce is permitted.

But then again, Jesus was speaking to Jews. He wasn't referring to gentile Christians. Everything Jesus preached before he died was, according to him, to "the lost sheep of Israel". That's why he refused to heal the daughter of the canaanite woman whom he called a dog. And he strictly told his disciples not to preach anywhere except for in Judea. He didn't even permit them to speak to the Samaritans.

Paul the apostle (the apostle to the gentiles) in Romans 7: 1 talked about marriage, divorce and remarriage and specifically said it was for those who knew the law. That is, those under the law. You and I were never under the law, we never had the law, we never knew the law. We were saved and engrafted into the common wealth of Israel when the real Israel refused Jesus.

In Acts 15:1-35, when the Jews wanted gentile believers to obey the dos and don'ts of the law, the Jerusalem Council came together headed by Peter and James and came to four conclusions:

The gentile/non-jewish believers (that's me and you)
1. They should abstain from fornication
2. Abstain from idolatry
3. Abstain from strangled meat
4. Abstain from blood.

And that such Christians should not be burdened with other issues. But people love to put yokes on themselves.

Divorce can be granted in some instances. For example, the Bible says a man shall leave his father and mother and shall cleave to his wife. How about when boys of 9 years are forced to marry a woman who may even be older? He was forced I to marriage as a boy and not a man. So his decision was not considered. He was forced. If he grows to manhood and rejects that marriage will you fault him? You see why I said there are issues to this thing.

Finally when Jesus was speaking in Matthew 19:10, his disciples said that if the marriage laws had to be that tough "then it's not good for a man to marry." Jesus told them that, that saying is not for everybody.

I don't want to debate on this matter, but I respectfully ask that you check the scriptures I gave and make your own conclusions.

The Bible clearly stated that there can be a divorce in certain circumstances so why are all these churches now against divorce where did they get their own doctrine from?

Where is the confusion? Does the Catholic Church own the Irish Republic simply because most Irish people are Catholics? Princess Diana was an Anglican and her marriage was celebrated in the Anglican Church, so what does that have to do with the Catholic Church? These followers of the illiterate "prophet" Sex Award Winner (SAW) don't know how to mind their business.

They ignore the filth surrounding them and they concentrate on their imaginary grievances with other more civilized and more advanced religions.

hakeem4:
The catholic church is one of the most confused cult in the world.

We all could remember 1996 when there was a referendum in the Irish republic, If the state's constitution should prohibit divorce or not? They did so for 2 primary reasons.

1) It was no longer thought right that the Roman Catholic Church should legislate its morality for all citizens.

2)It was obviously impossible even to hope for eventual Irish reuni- fication if the large Protestant minority in the North was continually repelled by the possibility of clerical rule.

Mother Teresa flew all the way from Calcutta to help campaign, along with the church and its hard-liners, for a “no” vote. In other words, an Irish woman married to a wife-beating and incestuous drunk should never expect anything better, and might endanger her soul if she begged for a fresh start, while as for the Protestants, they could either choose the blessings of Rome or stay out altogether.

The referendum eventu- ally amended the constitution, though by the narrowest of majori- ties. (Mother Teresa in the same year gave an interview saying that she hoped her friend Princess Diana would be happier after she had escaped from what was an obviously miserable marriage, but it’s less of a surprise to find the church applying sterner laws to the poor, or offering indulgences to the rich.)

okpanachil:
Divorce means there was a marriage previously but going forward that marriage does not exist between this couple anymore.

Nullification is more like it never happened. The grounds for nullification if marriage does not include domestic violence. There are grounds for nullification of marriage in the church if either one of the spouses can show proof that the other claimed what he/she is not.
Example is if a man cannot perform, because of how fundamental sex is to marriage and attendant consequences to a man's inability to perform, the church would nullify that marriage.
Hence the saying that the church does not encourage divorce but can nullify.

But to get your marriage nullified is not easy o so nobody should think it's like a walk in the park.

If there are differences between couples that are not reconciliable, then separation is advised but you still remain a couple.You can't marry other people as you are still married to each other alongside other conditions.

Does the white people who brought christainity to africa still observes all these laws? Everyone knows that they divorce at the slightest opportunity.

blazingblender:
.fr oluoma
The only priest that speaks for the people
The Catholic Church don't practice divorce
So what is the difference between nullification and divorce kwanu??

In separation, the doors to come back is left open and you are still married. If anything happens to the man morrow, the woman still has rights as she is still his wife. Divorce is we are no longer married.
For nolification; a marriage founded on wrong infor or lies can be nolified (meaning, there was no marriage at first). Eg, if the man/woman was married before and did not relate it to the new partner and before mariage, it is nolified. If the woman has no womb and she is aware but refused to inform the man before marriage or the man is impotent, knowing but did not inform the partner, that marriage will be nolified if one partner informs the church.
Marriage wahala plenty. Some young people sef no go like marry.
Lots of men suffer in marriage this days hustling to make family fit as women will always mount presuure, "when you know you cant take care of wife and children, why did you marry?"

JOemmy:



Does the white people who brought christainity to africa still observes all these laws? Everyone knows that they divorce at the slightest opportunity.

Forget social media,it is even more difficult to divorce in the west because of spousal support, only few people take that route. That is why many young people of western orientation do not want to get married anymore and if they do they must sign a prenup.

Also note that most people in the west are no longer very keen on religion.

I think there is a big difference....

null/nullify...having no legal or binding force : INVALID

Divorce: the action or an instance of legally dissolving .

I think that if you divorce your wife or she divorces she has a right to a monthly stipend or percentage of your salary. But i think if your marriage is nullify then before the law it never existed and you owe you spouse nothing!
Lets say your spouse discovers after marriage that you are impotent and did not tell her she can nullify the marriage. Or that the woman has no womb and did not tell the man...he can nullify!



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backnbeta:
Nullify: make legally null and void; invalidate.
Divorce the legal dissolution of a marriage by a court or other competent body.

Nullify, don't divorce ... what's the difference?
They are one and the same, dear Catholic brethrens!

Separation is okay for a while, but if their hearts don't grow fonder for each other, better to just make your marriage legally null and void or legally dissolve the marriage

Sonn:
the name Hakeem sounds like a Muslim name to me, but i will reply you even if you are, though i couldn't go through the long lines, but from the little i did' i give you somethings.
1, Catholic Church is not a cultist group,
2, The Catholic Church remains the most organized Church in the world, go and make research.
3, The church can never support divorcebut That doesn't mean they have challenges.
4, you don't judge with governmental standard, we are talking about the church as an independent institution and it's doctrine.
5, last but not least' desist from attacking the Church, just an advise.

first, I am not a Muslim, I had a Christian upbringing; I just have the name cause my dad is a Muslim

1) it seems you do not know the meaning of a cult that is why you are showing your ignorance.
2) You cannot just make any claim without any evidence to back it up; it is synonymous to just say I am the richest man in the whole Africa without any evidence.
3) well I have no response to that.
4) well, why should a doctrine be different from that of the government? do you still stone adulterers?
5) okay i would if all religious people give us peace and allow people live their lives without any interference.

seperation of bed but still in same room?one of them wuld get killed one day!that isnt the appropriate way out!!

hakeem4:

first, I am not a Muslim, I had a Christian upbringing; I just have the name cause my dad is a Muslim

1) it seems you do not know the meaning of a cult that is why you are showing your ignorance.
2) You cannot just make any claim without any evidence to back it up; it is synonymous to just say I am the richest man in the whole Africa without any evidence.
3) well I have no response to that.
4) well, why should a doctrine be different from that of the government? do you still stone adulterers?
5) okay i would if all religious people give us peace and allow people live their lives without any interference.

Sorry, but you sounded like a Muslim!!!
The Catholic Church is not a cult. The fact that some people in the past have used the positions in the Church to perpetrate evil does not make the Church a cult. What could you probably be privy to that gives you that feeling you are not the ignorant one?
I buttress that the Catholic Church is the most organised. You're allowed to disagree though. The Church was founded by Jesus himself and he chose His first leader. Please disagree. One random man did not just wake up one morning, starting the Church.

johnlegend01:


Sorry, but you sounded like a Muslim!!!
The Catholic Church is not a cult. The fact that some people in the past have used the positions in the Church to perpetrate evil does not make the Church a cult. What could you probably be privy to that gives you that feeling you are not the ignorant one?
I buttress that the Catholic Church is the most organised. You're allowed to disagree though. The Church was founded by Jesus himself and he chose His first leader. Please disagree. One random man did not just wake up one morning, starting the Church.

A cult is a system of religious veneration and devotion directed towards a particular figure or object. So it falls under the category of a cult. But it does not mean it is a secret cult which is what you are thinking i am talking about

hakeem4:

A cult is a system of religious veneration and devotion directed towards a particular figure or object. So it falls under the category of a cult. But it does not mean it is a secret cult which is what you are thinking i am talking about

It is wrong to use the word "cult" for the Church. The Church is the body of Christ and you have to rever it. If you were brought up in Christianity like you said, you will know that.
Yes, it is unfortunate that every now and then, wrong people are in the position to guide others in matters of faith, causing disunity, chaos, turning the teachings, and so on. The Church however will remain what it is. When Jesus comes back, he will come with his sieve.

DrLazCommenting:
The same God that told a muslim to marry ten wives told a Christian not to marry more than one in a lifetime. He then told a Muslim that taking alcohol is a sin and told a Christian that alcohol is Godly.
Religion is just an opium of the masses. Common sense should decide in most situations.

Where did God tell a Muslim to marry ten wives? The maximum allowed is Four.

Oga ,please don't push the polity.
Don't encourage divorce.i know children whose lives ended when thier parents divorced these were blessed children.my mother endured. That's why and reason I'm who I am.
Sorry

DrLazCommenting:
The same God that told a muslim to marry ten wives told a Christian not to marry more than one in a lifetime. He then told a Muslim that taking alcohol is a sin and told a Christian that alcohol is Godly.
Religion is just an opium of the masses. Common sense should decide in most situations.

Did you say that alcohol is godly for Christians?
You're confused.
And for your information, Muslims don't serve the same God that we Christians worship.
Their god loves beheading, bloodshed and suicide bombing and having intercourse with a 9 years old little girl.
Their god is hedonistic, promising 72 virgins and pool of wine for faithful Muslims in the afterlife.
The God of heavens and holiness and honesty and hope is the God Christians believe in and serve.
Shalom.

You can run away from a bad marriage or union but that your character will follow you

Me I have seen plenty women shouting domestic violence and leaving

Today they are not better than a waste bin

These ppl shouting DV are killing the flies and not minding what is attracting the flies

The women of these days are destroyers of their own home and some of these men are reacting.

What do you say of a woman who took all her kids to her mother's place for 4days without telling the hubby !

I know a woman who boldly said she can't clean her house because she's working

True! Some women are to be divorced instead of making a nuisance in marriage

My advise to the men, if your woman is acting like king Kong and making you endure shit all in the name of am a gentleman, go-to her parents, relate the shit and use tipper throw her things out

Better than you making headlines for social media warriors

backnbeta:

Thanks, I get your point. My point here is in relation to a wedding not based on lies. If you are in an abusive marriage, you will divorce and not nullify because you are terminating the contract. But from the Catholic point of view, I'm guessing a woman in an abusive marriage has to separate or endure. But a woman or man who was deceived into a marriage can call for nullification based on the lies. Like you said, I'm not a Catholic and it may be difficult for me to understand. Thanks all the same.

Yes, you get it now. If a woman is in an abusive relationship she can choose to seperate from her husband, the church will grant her that and not divorce. Lies leads to nullification of marriage if the person lied to chooses to push for it. Let me also paint a different picture (Also from the Catholic Church), a family friend of mine got married and along the line his wife ran mad and he separated from her (did diabolical things according to him) despite this he couldn't remarry, she later died after 15 years and that was when he finally got married to another lady. Dude literally paused his life for that long, good thing was the union produced 2 children. Kinda harsh but it is what it is.

fastseo:


Are u following religion or you are following Jesus who promises you eternal life?
Please leave religion, occultism and the rest that are sustained by diverse powers in the universe and follows jesus who is the way, the truth and the life, he who came to destroy the works of the devil.

No be God create Jesus?

Globad:


No be God create Jesus?

Have you given your life to Christ? If not please do because ur statement sound as one who hasn't gotten a close relationship with the father.

The aim of every believer in christ is to make heaven at last and this very objective the devil hates. He had brought diverse religion to confuse man. Its a privilege you have to know him right now we are still alife.

SmartPolician:


Any church that promotes divorce has their agenda because that's not the will of God. God doesn't support divorce; no church should. Separation is not divorce. The former doesn't lead to the latter automatically. People separate, miss each other and still make up after sorting out their issues. Let's not forget that.

So you mean the victim should go back to the tormentor after some time?

NickD:

There are grounds for nullification of marriage in the Catholic Church example if one spouse hides certain critical information [/b] (could be health status or having children without knowledge of the partner, anything enshrined with lies etc) [b] that might make his or her partner decide against going into the union from the start. It is entirely different from divorce. You're not Catholic so you might not understand.

But all these are grounds for divorce too.

DrLazCommenting:
The same God that told a muslim to marry ten wives told a Christian not to marry more than one in a lifetime. He then told a Muslim that taking alcohol is a sin and told a Christian that alcohol is Godly.
Religion is just an opium of the masses. Common sense should decide in most situations.

Where do you read it that taken alcohol is godly? Mention the particular verse(s)

He spoke well until the "Catholic Church doesn't believe in divorce" statement.

You are contradicting yourself Sir.

fastseo:

Have you given your life to Christ? If not please do because ur statement sound as one who hasn't gotten a close relationship with the father.

The aim of every believer in christ is to make heaven at last and this very objective the devil hates. He had brought diverse religion to confuse man. Its a privilege you have to know him right now we are still alife.

You didn't answer the simple question

Globad:


You didn't answer the simple question

John 1 to the end read it.
Proverb 8 till end, the same proverb 8 vs 22 till end.

Then answer who jesus is.

fastseo:

John 1 to the end read it.
Proverb 8 till end, the same proverb 8 vs 22 till end.

Then answer who jesus is.

I asked you a question and you're turning it into an assignment

Globad:


I asked you a question and you're turning it into an assignment

Jesus is God

fastseo:


Jesus is God

And God is Jesus