I'm trying to understand the relationship between the both ,why does god allows suffering and evil can't he just end it all ,if you have the kind of power they claim god have would you allow people to suffer?? .....you'll see someone going thru something and the next thing the person says is god knows best, god knows best ? for someone who knows the beginning and the end why can't god just answer what's with the delay ?

arejibadz:
I'm trying to understand the relationship between the both ,why does god allows suffering and evil can't he just end it all ,if you have the kind of power they claim god have would you allow people to suffer?? .....you'll see someone going thru something and the next thing the person says is god knows best, god knows best ? for someone who knows the beginning and the end why can't god just answer what's with the delay ?

God does know best.

When I was going through hell at the hands of a pastor, I prayed daily. I asked God to soften his heart towards me. God did not answer my prayer and I thought He had forsaken me.
3 weeks after I eventually left that Church, '1 Minute With Tina' was birthed. If He had answered my prayer, I wouldn't be doing what I'm doing today.

When my friend ran off with my fiancé, I thought my life was over. I kept on asking, "God, why?"
2 years later I met my wonderful husband.
Friend and fiancé split up after he cheated on her.
If God had answered my prayer, I would never have been happy with the cheating toerag.

A friend of mine came to the UK and was managing her friend's sofa.
One day her friend told her to leave her flat. She gave her 1 week to move.
She begged, prayed, cried. Nothing.
Eventually, she packed her bags and went to the housing for assistance.
They gave her a 1-bedroom flat of her own.
If God had answered her prayer, she would still be sleeping on the sofa.

If Joseph's brothers had listened to his plea, he wouldn't have become prime minister.
He probably thought God had forsaken him.

Let's pray for God's will to be done in our lives.
There are some things we won't be able to comprehend until much later.
The Lord will strengthen us in our afflictions and bring us out unscathed.

PastorMIsBack:


God does know best.

Lol so god know why one is suffering and can't do anything ATM why is that, why allow one to suffer before answering one's request,if you have the same power they claim God have would you allow people to suffer??

PastorMIsBack:


God does know best.

When I was going through hell at the hands of a pastor, I prayed daily. I asked God to soften his heart towards me. God did not answer my prayer and I thought He had forsaken me.
3 weeks after I eventually left that Church, '1 Minute With Tina' was birthed. If He had answered my prayer, I wouldn't be doing what I'm doing today.

When my friend ran off with my fiancé, I thought my life was over. I kept on asking, "God, why?"
2 years later I met my wonderful husband.
Friend and fiancé split up after he cheated on her.
If God had answered my prayer, I would never have been happy with the cheating toerag.

A friend of mine came to the UK and was managing her friend's sofa.
One day her friend told her to leave her flat. She gave her 1 week to move.
She begged, prayed, cried. Nothing.
Eventually, she packed her bags and went to the housing for assistance.
They gave her a 1-bedroom flat of her own.
If God had answered her prayer, she would still be sleeping on the sofa.

If Joseph's brothers had listened to his plea, he wouldn't have become prime minister.
He probably thought God had forsaken him.

Let's pray for God's will to be done in our lives.
There are some things we won't be able to comprehend until much later.
The Lord will strengthen us in our afflictions and bring us out unscathed.

Was it your god that told you to leave the church? You shouldn’t have left since god knows best, it seems you yourself know what’s best for you without waiting for anyone’s approval.

Maynman:


Was it your god that told you to leave the church? You shouldn’t have left since god knows best, it seems you yourself know what’s best for you without waiting for anyone’s approval.

Exactly. Human beings find solutions to their problems but choose to ascribe it to a god, WTF is your brain for then? LoLz.

PastorMIsBack:


God does know best.

When I was going through hell at the hands of a pastor, I prayed daily. I asked God to soften his heart towards me. God did not answer my prayer and I thought He had forsaken me.
3 weeks after I eventually left that Church, '1 Minute With Tina' was birthed. If He had answered my prayer, I wouldn't be doing what I'm doing today.

When my friend ran off with my fiancé, I thought my life was over. I kept on asking, "God, why?"
2 years later I met my wonderful husband.
Friend and fiancé split up after he cheated on her.
If God had answered my prayer, I would never have been happy with the cheating toerag.

A friend of mine came to the UK and was managing her friend's sofa.
One day her friend told her to leave her flat. She gave her 1 week to move.
She begged, prayed, cried. Nothing.
Eventually, she packed her bags and went to the housing for assistance.
They gave her a 1-bedroom flat of her own.
If God had answered her prayer, she would still be sleeping on the sofa.

If Joseph's brothers had listened to his plea, he wouldn't have become prime minister.
He probably thought God had forsaken him.

Let's pray for God's will to be done in our lives.
There are some things we won't be able to comprehend until much later.
The Lord will strengthen us in our afflictions and bring us out unscathed.

So basically the god doesn’t answer prayer, he just lets things play out as they would. SMH. LoLz.

arejibadz:
I'm trying to understand the relationship between the both ,why does god allows suffering and evil can't he just end it all ,if you have the kind of power they claim god have would you allow people to suffer?? .....you'll see someone going thru something and the next thing the person says is god knows best, god knows best ? for someone who knows the beginning and the end why can't god just answer what's with the delay ?

These are just attempts to reconcile the vast amount of suffering in this world with the the good fortune of others. If Mr A is suffering but Mr B has it good it must mean that the god willed it that way or else there is no justice in the universe. But that is exactly what it is there is no justice in the universe except the one we make for ourselves. If a god exists that sits back delaying justice then how can you call that a good god?

Because Satan is very much in this world.

LordReed:


These are just attempts to reconcile the vast amount of suffering in this world with the the good fortune of others. If Mr A is suffering but Mr B has it good it must mean that the god willed it that way or else there is no justice in the universe. But that is exactly what it is there is no justice in the universe except the one we make for ourselves. If a god exists that sits back delaying justice then how can you call that a good god?

this one the main reasons religion never sits right with me like why all this happening , i haven't seen any one who has answered this question WHY IS SUFFERING PART OF RELIGION

LordIsaac:
Because Satan is very much in this world.

why cant god end satan , cant they end their beef so everywhere fit good

arejibadz:
why cant god end satan , cant they end their beef so everywhere fit good

God is a God of "appointed time." That's why the earth and all that is therein wasn't created in one day. Satan's time will come. A world bereft of Satan was promised us, let's wait on the Lord as Scripture commands, and be of good cheer.

arejibadz:
why cant god end satan , cant they end their beef so everywhere fit good

Because you are involved in their beef!

MaxInDHouse:


Because you are involved in their beef!

lol how ,tot god created satan, y beefing with someone whom he created??

LordIsaac:

God is a God of "appointed time." That's why the earth and all that is therein wasn't created in one day. Satan's time will come. A world bereft of Satan was promised us, let's wait on the Lord as Scripture commands, and be of good cheer.

quick ?? If you're god would you allow half of what's happening happen right now ?....suffering being part of the world is what I dont just understand

arejibadz:
lol how ,tot god created satan, y beefing with someone whom he created??

You have to be careful with maxindhouse , he is not a Yahweh/Elohim/YHWH worshipper.
He is a “Jehovah” worshipper, and no where in the Jewish Bible was that name ever mentioned or called, the name was created by William Tyndale, which coincidentally is a Jehovah witness also, this Jehovah witness also created the king James VERSION.

arejibadz:
quick ?? If you're god would you allow half of what's happening happen right now ?....suffering being part of the world is what I dont just understand

That's why I'm not God. My brain is created by Him. The highest of my reasoning and ability for logic is foolishness before Him. He is Alpha and Omega....the Beginning and the End. No mortal or immortal can comprehend His works. He is beyond searching out.
Therefore, rest on His knowledge and be patient as He commands. There's an expiry date to Satan and all that he represents.

LordIsaac:

That's why I'm not God. My brain is created by Him. The highest of my reasoning and ability for logic is foolishness before Him. He is Alpha and Omega....the Beginning and the End. [/b]No mortal or immortal can comprehend His works. He is beyond searching out.[b]
Therefore, rest on His knowledge and be patient as He commands. There's an expiry date to Satan and all that he represents.

So your god created both good and evil?

Maynman:


So your god created both good and evil?

Exactly. Why He did that is beyond my comprehension. Just like negative and positive electrodes in Physics and Chemistry electricity.

LordIsaac:

Exactly. Why He did that is beyond my comprehension. Just like negative and positive electrodes in Physics and Chemistry electricity.

So he created evil desires and evil thoughts too?

Maynman:


So he created evil desires and evil thoughts too?

I have already mentioned that He is Alpha and Omega. Omnipresent and OmniScience. All things were created by Him. Leave the why till you get to heaven.

LordIsaac:

I have already mentioned that He is Alpha and Omega. Omnipresent and OmniScience. All things were created by Him. Leave the why till you get to heaven.

So all the things that devil did and Adam did, it was your god that was doing it?

He intentionally gave devil evil desires so he can rebel and have a reason to cast him out. The same template he used for Adam and Eve?

arejibadz:
lol how ,tot god created satan, y beefing with someone whom he created??

That's why you need to study the Bible instead of presuming how God should react to those who are lower to Him.
He is not a bully rather He wants everyone to have equal right even though He is the Creator He doesn't want to force His opinion on anyone.
The problem we're facing on this planet today is due to what happened in the beginning but before you can understand remember those involved aren't mortals like you and i, so their reasoning differs from the way you and i who have expiring date do reason!

MaxInDHouse:


That's why you need to study the Bible instead of presuming how God should react to those who are lower to Him.
He is not a bully rather He wants everyone to have equal right even though He is the Creator He doesn't want to force His opinion on anyone.
The problem we're facing on this planet today is due to what happened in the beginning but before you can understand remember those involved aren't mortals like you and i, so their reasoning differs from the way you and i who have expiring date do reason!

But your reasoning helped you to know that “Because you are involved in their beef!” How were you able to understand that since our reasoning differs?
All these William tyndale worshippers sha

Maynman:


So all the things that devil did and Adam did, it was your god that was doing it?

He intentionally gave devil evil desires so he can rebel and have a reason to cast him out. The same template he used for Adam and Eve?

Give your life to Christ. You need to submit your heart to Jesus. Then, you'd be humble enough to know that you were created. And He that created you does not owe you an explanation. We are mere creations and we are created for His Glory!

Maynman:

But your reasoning helped you to know that “Because you are involved in their beef!” How were you able to understand that since our reasoning differs?
All these William tyndale worshippers sha

What a pity!
MindHacker has become so restless and you're now trailing MaxInDHouse everywhere on Nairaland.
Well allow the OP for now at least he wants to reason with others so calm down you don't have to be this restless;

LordIsaac:

Give your life to Christ. You need to submit your heart to Jesus. Then, you'd be humble enough to know that you were created. And He that created you does not owe you an explanation. We are mere creations and we are created for His Glory!

You already answered that your god created both good and evil and he gave us evil desires. I should repent from what your god created?

MaxInDHouse:


What a pity!
MindHacker has become so restless and you're now trailing MaxInDHouse everywhere on Nairaland.
Well allow the OP for now at least he wants to reason with others so calm down you don't have to be this restless;

Jehovah worshipper, have you said your praise to William Tyndale aka Jehovah today?

Maynman:


You already answered that your god created both good and evil and he gave us evil desires. I should repent from what your god created?

Yes....because He gave you a will to choose life.

Maynman:

Jehovah worshipper, have you said your praise to William Tyndale aka Jehovah today?

It's OK for now allow the OP to reason with me if truly he's intelligent as he thinks!

LordIsaac:

Yes....because He gave you a will to choose life.

He didn’t, if he did he wouldn’t have created me with evil desires.
He created you with 2 legs because that’s what you need, he created you with both good and evil desires because that’s what you need.
Could your god have created you with 3 legs? Yes, but he specifically created with 2 legs to use, the same way he created you with good and evil desires to use, or your god does mistake?
Your god could have created you with only good desires but he added evil desires to it for you to use as you have 2 legs and 2 eyes and so on.. everything for a function.

MaxInDHouse:


It's OK for now allow the OP to reason with me if truly he's intelligent as he thinks!

Reason with a William tyndale worshipper?
he is looking for a Yahweh/Elohim worshipper not a Jehovah worshipper.

Maynman:

Reason with a William tyndale worshipper, he is looking for a Yahweh/Elohim worshipper not a Jehovah worshipper.

Wow! So you KNOW what he's looking for even when he's sceptical about the whole idea of God!

Come on my friend, i thought you said you only say what you KNOW, how come you're now becoming a spokesman for another person?