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Re: Who Really Is Jesus Christ? by MaxInDHouse(m): 3:18pm On May 19, 2022
AntiChristian:

Give the bible verses where it is stated that Jesus was like them?
And since Jesus was like them, were they also called Messiah too?
If your Qu'ran referred to only one person as Al-Masihu i think you shouldn't expect the Bible to refer to anyone else as Messiah except the same person your Qu'ran called Al-Masihu! smiley
Re: Who Really Is Jesus Christ? by MindHacker9009(m): 10:09pm On May 19, 2022
MaxInDHouse:

Jesus is Al Masihu (Arabic) Messiah (Hebrew) Christ (Greek) Saviour (English) of the world! smiley

Israel was under occupation by the Roman Empire during the time of Jesus, but Jesus did not follow the law GOD commanded instead He told people to flee from Judea. So the TRUTH is that Jesus is not the Messiah and the Jews cannot be deceived because if Jesus was the Messiah He would have defeated the Roman Empire and set His people and Israel from from the Roman Empire.

610. Not to panic and retreat during battle—Deuteronomy 20:3
Re: Who Really Is Jesus Christ? by MaxInDHouse(m): 4:08am On May 20, 2022
MindHacker9009:

Israel was under occupation by the Roman Empire during the time of Jesus, but Jesus did not follow the law GOD commanded instead He told people to flee from Judea. So the TRUTH is that Jesus is not the Messiah and the Jews cannot be deceived because if Jesus was the Messiah He would have defeated the Roman Empire and set His people and Israel from from the Roman Empire.
610. Not to panic and retreat during battle—Deuteronomy 20:3

That is why you need to STUDY the Bible not just read it like a story book!

From the beginning God never intended that a race or nation among Adam's descendants should be rated above another rather mankind supposed to be one big and happy family of peace loving worshipers globally serving the same God! Genesis 1:28
So one thing led to another that's why God has to pick one nation out of all others {Exodus 19:5} then set up a standard of how He wanted people to cohabit without hurting one another, so the Israelites were to later extend God's message to all other nations who are still in darkness under Satan's system of things {Zechariah 8:23} It's the duty of the Messiah to organize his people (Israelites) train them {Deuteronomy 18:18-19} on how to go about making the whole earth one family {Isaiah 2:2-4} so that we will all worship God shoulder to shoulder as if we're speaking just one language for perfect understanding {Zephaniah 3:9} he wasn't sent to start killing one race in support of another race, so he is not supposed to be a political RACIST!

The only reason why God chose the Israelites is for the campaign to rehabilitate mankind and that has to start from a small scale as in a nation must first be liberated out of Satan's system, otherwise there will always be hatred if the Messiah should go about killing others like a racist in fact all other nations will lay down their lives for their own nation so if the so called Messiah can kill everyone so that only Israelites will survive the planet they won't care. But since he's not a racist that's why he's trying to help the Israelites realize that his mission totally differs from what they are thinking.
Re: Who Really Is Jesus Christ? by MaxInDHouse(m): 4:34am On May 20, 2022
By the time Rome was ruling the world God has already declared that seven nations will rule over the earth until the appointed time when the Messiah will take over from the last world power! Daniel 2:37-45

Starting with Egyptians, Assyrians, Babylonians, Medo-Persians, Greece, Rome, English-American, by the time the Messiah arrived the earth it was the 6 system of government under Satan's trial of systems that's ruling the world the first five has fallen! Revelations 17:10

So when the Messiah arrived his first assignment was to organize the Israelites (Jews) train them and commission a global campaign team against Satan's system of government {Matthew 10:6} that's what Bible called the Good News of God's Kingdom! Matthew 24:14

But most Jews were expecting a King who will lead them to war against their so called enemies but the Messiah told them mankind has just one enemy: Satan the devil! Matthew 5:43-48

With the counsel of the Christ {Isaiah 9:6} nobody will raise a weapon in support of anyone against another {Isaiah 2:2-4} but all these must follow due process because the true God is not a bully He wants everyone to grasp what is happening! Isaiah 1:18

May you have PEACE! smiley
Re: Who Really Is Jesus Christ? by MindHacker9009(m): 10:58am On May 21, 2022
From your posts you are the one reading the Bible as a story book and then making children's story out of it.
If Jesus Christ is the expected Messiah then He would have prevented the Temple in Jerusalem from being destroyed rather he predicted that the temple will be destroyed and the Roman Empire occupying Israel at the time later destroyed it.

Jesus Christ did not keep all the Laws of the Torah instead He changed some of them when GOD commanded:

136. To take procedures against a suspected adultress.
(Numbers 5:30)

580. Not to add to the Torah commandments or their oral explanations.
(Deuteronomy 13:1)

581. Not to diminish any commandments from the Torah, in whole or in part.
(Deuteronomy 13:1)

610. Not to panic and retreat during battle.
(Deuteronomy 20:3)

May you have sense to understand the Torah angry

MaxInDHouse:

That is why you need to STUDY the Bible not just read it like a story book!

From the beginning God never intended that a race or nation among Adam's descendants should be rated above another rather mankind supposed to be one big and happy family of peace loving worshipers globally serving the same God! Genesis 1:28
So one thing led to another that's why God has to pick one nation out of all others {Exodus 19:5} then set up a standard of how He wanted people to cohabit without hurting one another, so the Israelites were to later extend God's message to all other nations who are still in darkness under Satan's system of things {Zechariah 8:23} It's the duty of the Messiah to organize his people (Israelites) train them {Deuteronomy 18:18-19} on how to go about making the whole earth one family {Isaiah 2:2-4} so that we will all worship God shoulder to shoulder as if we're speaking just one language for perfect understanding {Zephaniah 3:9} he wasn't sent to start killing one race in support of another race, so he is not supposed to be a political RACIST!

The only reason why God chose the Israelites is for the campaign to rehabilitate mankind and that has to start from a small scale as in a nation must first be liberated out of Satan's system, otherwise there will always be hatred if the Messiah should go about killing others like a racist in fact all other nations will lay down their lives for their own nation so if the so called Messiah can kill everyone so that only Israelites will survive the planet they won't care. But since he's not a racist that's why he's trying to help the Israelites realize that his mission totally differs from what they are thinking.

MaxInDHouse:
By the time Rome was ruling the world God has already declared that seven nations will rule over the earth until the appointed time when the Messiah will take over from the last world power! Daniel 2:37-45

Starting with Egyptians, Assyrians, Babylonians, Medo-Persians, Greece, Rome, English-American, by the time the Messiah arrived the earth it was the 6 system of government under Satan's trial of systems that's ruling the world the first five has fallen! Revelations 17:10

So when the Messiah arrived his first assignment was to organize the Israelites (Jews) train them and commission a global campaign team against Satan's system of government {Matthew 10:6} that's what Bible called the Good News of God's Kingdom! Matthew 24:14

But most Jews were expecting a King who will lead them to war against their so called enemies but the Messiah told them mankind has just one enemy: Satan the devil! Matthew 5:43-48

With the counsel of the Christ {Isaiah 9:6} nobody will raise a weapon in support of anyone against another {Isaiah 2:2-4} but all these must follow due process because the true God is not a bully He wants everyone to grasp what is happening! Isaiah 1:18

May you have PEACE! smiley
Re: Who Really Is Jesus Christ? by MaxInDHouse(m): 11:15am On May 21, 2022
Just allow others read our comments and SEE for themselves who got the sense in God's word! Proverbs 2:1-5 wink

MindHacker9009:
From your posts you are the one reading the Bible as a story book and then making children's story out of it.
If Jesus Christ is the expected Messiah then He would have prevented the Temple in Jerusalem from being destroyed rather he predicted that the temple will be destroyed and the Roman Empire occupying Israel at the time later destroyed it.

Jesus Christ did not keep all the Laws of the Torah instead He changed some of them when GOD commanded:

136. To take procedures against a suspected adultress.
(Numbers 5:30)

580. Not to add to the Torah commandments or their oral explanations.
(Deuteronomy 13:1)

581. Not to diminish any commandments from the Torah, in whole or in part.
(Deuteronomy 13:1)

610. Not to panic and retreat during battle.
(Deuteronomy 20:3)

May you have sense to understand the Torah wink

MaxInDHouse:

That is why you need to STUDY the Bible not just read it like a story book!

From the beginning God never intended that a race or nation among Adam's descendants should be rated above another rather mankind supposed to be one big and happy family of peace loving worshipers globally serving the same God! Genesis 1:28
So one thing led to another that's why God has to pick one nation out of all others {Exodus 19:5} then set up a standard of how He wanted people to cohabit without hurting one another, so the Israelites were to later extend God's message to all other nations who are still in darkness under Satan's system of things {Zechariah 8:23} It's the duty of the Messiah to organize his people (Israelites) train them {Deuteronomy 18:18-19} on how to go about making the whole earth one family {Isaiah 2:2-4} so that we will all worship God shoulder to shoulder as if we're speaking just one language for perfect understanding {Zephaniah 3:9} he wasn't sent to start killing one race in support of another race, so he is not supposed to be a political RACIST!

The only reason why God chose the Israelites is for the campaign to rehabilitate mankind and that has to start from a small scale as in a nation must first be liberated out of Satan's system, otherwise there will always be hatred if the Messiah should go about killing others like a racist in fact all other nations will lay down their lives for their own nation so if the so called Messiah can kill everyone so that only Israelites will survive the planet they won't care. But since he's not a racist that's why he's trying to help the Israelites realize that his mission totally differs from what they are thinking.
By the time Rome was ruling the world God has already declared that seven nations will rule over the earth until the appointed time when the Messiah will take over from the last world power! Daniel 2:37-45

Starting with Egyptians, Assyrians, Babylonians, Medo-Persians, Greece, Rome, English-American, by the time the Messiah arrived the earth it was the 6 system of government under Satan's trial of systems that's ruling the world the first five has fallen! Revelations 17:10

So when the Messiah arrived his first assignment was to organize the Israelites (Jews) train them and commission a global campaign team against Satan's system of government {Matthew 10:6} that's what Bible called the Good News of God's Kingdom! Matthew 24:14

But most Jews were expecting a King who will lead them to war against their so called enemies but the Messiah told them mankind has just one enemy: Satan the devil! Matthew 5:43-48

With the counsel of the Christ {Isaiah 9:6} nobody will raise a weapon in support of anyone against another {Isaiah 2:2-4} but all these must follow due process because the true God is not a bully He wants everyone to grasp what is happening! Isaiah 1:18

May you have PEACE! smiley

Re: Who Really Is Jesus Christ? by MindHacker9009(m): 11:18am On May 21, 2022
From your posts you are the one reading the Bible as a story book and then making children's story out of it.
If Jesus Christ is the expected Messiah then He would have prevented the Temple in Jerusalem from being destroyed rather he predicted that the temple will be destroyed and the Roman Empire occupying Israel at the time later destroyed it.

Jesus Christ did not keep all the Laws of the Torah instead He changed some of them when GOD commanded:

136. To take procedures against a suspected adultress.
(Numbers 5:30)

580. Not to add to the Torah commandments or their oral explanations.
(Deuteronomy 13:1)

581. Not to diminish any commandments from the Torah, in whole or in part.
(Deuteronomy 13:1)

610. Not to panic and retreat during battle.
(Deuteronomy 20:3)

May you have sense to understand the Torah angry

MaxInDHouse:
Just allow others read our comments and SEE for themselves who got the sense in God's word! Proverbs 2:1-5 wink

MaxInDHouse:

That is why you need to STUDY the Bible not just read it like a story book!

From the beginning God never intended that a race or nation among Adam's descendants should be rated above another rather mankind supposed to be one big and happy family of peace loving worshipers globally serving the same God! Genesis 1:28
So one thing led to another that's why God has to pick one nation out of all others {Exodus 19:5} then set up a standard of how He wanted people to cohabit without hurting one another, so the Israelites were to later extend God's message to all other nations who are still in darkness under Satan's system of things {Zechariah 8:23} It's the duty of the Messiah to organize his people (Israelites) train them {Deuteronomy 18:18-19} on how to go about making the whole earth one family {Isaiah 2:2-4} so that we will all worship God shoulder to shoulder as if we're speaking just one language for perfect understanding {Zephaniah 3:9} he wasn't sent to start killing one race in support of another race, so he is not supposed to be a political RACIST!

The only reason why God chose the Israelites is for the campaign to rehabilitate mankind and that has to start from a small scale as in a nation must first be liberated out of Satan's system, otherwise there will always be hatred if the Messiah should go about killing others like a racist in fact all other nations will lay down their lives for their own nation so if the so called Messiah can kill everyone so that only Israelites will survive the planet they won't care. But since he's not a racist that's why he's trying to help the Israelites realize that his mission totally differs from what they are thinking.

MaxInDHouse:
By the time Rome was ruling the world God has already declared that seven nations will rule over the earth until the appointed time when the Messiah will take over from the last world power! Daniel 2:37-45

Starting with Egyptians, Assyrians, Babylonians, Medo-Persians, Greece, Rome, English-American, by the time the Messiah arrived the earth it was the 6 system of government under Satan's trial of systems that's ruling the world the first five has fallen! Revelations 17:10

So when the Messiah arrived his first assignment was to organize the Israelites (Jews) train them and commission a global campaign team against Satan's system of government {Matthew 10:6} that's what Bible called the Good News of God's Kingdom! Matthew 24:14

But most Jews were expecting a King who will lead them to war against their so called enemies but the Messiah told them mankind has just one enemy: Satan the devil! Matthew 5:43-48

With the counsel of the Christ {Isaiah 9:6} nobody will raise a weapon in support of anyone against another {Isaiah 2:2-4} but all these must follow due process because the true God is not a bully He wants everyone to grasp what is happening! Isaiah 1:18

May you have PEACE! smiley
Re: Who Really Is Jesus Christ? by MaxInDHouse(m): 11:42am On May 21, 2022
MindHacker9009:

If Jesus Christ is the expected Messiah then He would have prevented the Temple in Jerusalem from being destroyed rather he predicted that the temple will be destroyed and the Roman Empire occupying Israel at the time later destroyed it.

The Messiah (Christ) must not overstep the standard God set! Matthew 5:17

Note that God promised the Israelites that He will only continue to protect their land if they stick to the covenant between Himself and that nation! Deuteronomy 28:15-68

That's why the Messiah could say to them:



“Jerusalem, Jerusalem, the killer of the prophets and stoner of those sent to her—how often I wanted to gather your children together the way a hen gathers her chicks under her wings! But you did not want it. Look! Your house is abandoned to you. Matthew 23:37-38

According to God's word no prophet should pray for Jerusalem if the people refuse to abide by the covenant:

The one refusing to listen to the law —Even his prayer is detestable! Proverbs 28:9

 “As for you, do not pray in behalf of this people. Do not cry out in their behalf or offer a prayer for them, for I will not be listening when they call out to me because of their calamity. Jeremiah 11:14

Then Jehovah said to me: “Do not pray for good to come to this people. When they fast, I do not listen to their entreaties, and when they offer whole burnt offerings and grain offerings, I take no pleasure in them, for by the sword, by famine, and by pestilence, I will do away with them.” Jeremiah 14:11-12


That's why Jesus Christ only pray for those who listens to the instructions he gave them:

because I have given them the sayings that you gave me, and they have accepted them and have certainly come to know that I came as your representative, and they have believed that you sent me. I make request concerning them; I make request, not concerning the world, but concerning those whom you have given me, because they are yours! John 17:8-9

So Jesus Christ of Nazareth perfectly followed God's arrangement as planned after mankind's fall in the garden of Eden, it's the Israelites that failed to grasp the purpose of the Messiah thinking he should be a nepotist who only came to rescue their nation alone! Luke 4:23 smiley

May you have PEACE! smiley
Re: Who Really Is Jesus Christ? by MindHacker9009(m): 11:52am On May 21, 2022
MaxInDHouse:

“Jerusalem, Jerusalem, the killer of the prophets and stoner of those sent to her—how often I wanted to gather your children together the way a hen gathers her chicks under her wings! But you did not want it. Look! Your house is abandoned to you. Matthew 23:37-38

Jesus Christ was against GOD's command in Matthew 23:37-38, when:

God commanded the Jews:
45. Not to fear killing a false prophet.
(Deuteronomy 18:22)

Is Jesus not Himself divided against the Kingdom of GOD, when Jesus Himself said "a Kingdom divided against itself cannot stand" Mark 3:24.

The Messiah is coming to keep all that GOD has commanded in the Torah and not to diminish any commandments from the Torah but Jesus Christ did not keep all the Laws of the Torah instead He changed some of them when GOD commanded:

136. To take procedures against a suspected adultress.
(Numbers 5:30)

580. Not to add to the Torah commandments or their oral explanations.
(Deuteronomy 13:1)

581. Not to diminish any commandments from the Torah, in whole or in part.
(Deuteronomy 13:1)

610. Not to panic and retreat during battle.
(Deuteronomy 20:3)

May you have sense to understand the Torah angry

MaxInDHouse:


The Messiah (Christ) must not overstep the standard God set! Matthew 5:17

Note that God promised the Israelites that He will only continue to protect their land if they stick to the covenant between Himself and that nation! Deuteronomy 28:15-68

That's why the Messiah could say to them:



“Jerusalem, Jerusalem, the killer of the prophets and stoner of those sent to her—how often I wanted to gather your children together the way a hen gathers her chicks under her wings! But you did not want it. Look! Your house is abandoned to you. Matthew 23:37-38

According to God's word no prophet should pray for Jerusalem if the people refuse to abide by the covenant:

The one refusing to listen to the law —Even his prayer is detestable! Proverbs 28:9

“As for you, do not pray in behalf of this people. Do not cry out in their behalf or offer a prayer for them, for I will not be listening when they call out to me because of their calamity. Jeremiah 11:14

Then Jehovah said to me: “Do not pray for good to come to this people. When they fast, I do not listen to their entreaties, and when they offer whole burnt offerings and grain offerings, I take no pleasure in them, for by the sword, by famine, and by pestilence, I will do away with them.” Jeremiah 14:11-12


That's why Jesus Christ only pray for those who listens to the instructions he gave them:

because I have given them the sayings that you gave me, and they have accepted them and have certainly come to know that I came as your representative, and they have believed that you sent me. I make request concerning them; I make request, not concerning the world, but concerning those whom you have given me, because they are yours! John 17:8-9

So Jesus Christ of Nazareth perfectly followed God's arrangement as planned after mankind's fall in the garden of Eden, it's the Israelites that failed to grasp the purpose of the Messiah thinking he should be a nepotist who only came to rescue their nation alone! Luke 4:23 smiley

May you have PEACE! smiley
Re: Who Really Is Jesus Christ? by MaxInDHouse(m): 1:22pm On May 21, 2022
Continue waiting for their Messiah when Jesus Christ has already fulfilled the role! cheesy

MindHacker9009:


Jesus Christ was against GOD's command in Matthew 23:37-38, when:

God commanded the Jews:
45. Not to fear killing a false prophet.
(Deuteronomy 18:22)

Is Jesus not Himself divided against the Kingdom of GOD, when Jesus Himself said "a Kingdom divided against itself cannot stand" Mark 3:24.

The Messiah is coming to keep all that GOD has commanded in the Torah and not to diminish any commandments from the Torah but Jesus Christ did not keep all the Laws of the Torah instead He changed some of them when GOD commanded:

136. To take procedures against a suspected adultress.
(Numbers 5:30)

580. Not to add to the Torah commandments or their oral explanations.
(Deuteronomy 13:1)

581. Not to diminish any commandments from the Torah, in whole or in part.
(Deuteronomy 13:1)

610. Not to panic and retreat during battle.
(Deuteronomy 20:3)

May you have sense to understand the Torah angry
Re: Who Really Is Jesus Christ? by Kobojunkie: 2:02am On May 06, 2023
AntiChristian:
Psalm 105:15 says “Do not touch my anointed ones (Messiahs); do my prophets no harm.”
In the above, the word translated as "anointed ones" is same as Messiah! But the context makes it anointed ones! When Jesus comes in to the picture it will become the savior of the world as your translators wanted him to be.
Don't fall for the soundbites fed you by your pastors and mogs, always go back and verify for yourself.
6 You belong to the family of his servant Abraham. You are descendants of Jacob, the people God chose.
7 The Lord is our God. He rules the whole world.
8 He will remember his agreement forever. He will always keep the promises he made to his people.
9 He will keep the agreement he made with Abraham and the promise he made to Isaac.
10 He gave it as a law to Jacob. He gave it to Israel as an agreement that will last forever!
11 He said, “I will give you the land of Canaan. It will be your very own.”
12 At the time God said this, there were only a few of his people, and they were strangers there.
13 They traveled around from nation to nation, from one kingdom to another.
14 But the Lord did not let anyone mistreat them. He warned kings not to harm them.
15 He said, “Don’t hurt my chosen people. Don’t harm my prophets.” - Psalm 105 vs 4 - 15
See from the above that God made that statement regarding all of the children of Israel and the prophets in the land. And that warning was meant by God for all the foreign kings and peoples of the foreign nations through which He took His chosen people? undecided
Re: Who Really Is Jesus Christ? by AntiChristian: 5:47am On May 06, 2023
Kobojunkie:
Don't fall for the soundbites fed you by your pastors and mogs, always go back and verify for yourself. See from the above that God made that statement regarding all of the children of Israel and the prophets in the land. And that warning was meant by God for all the foreign kings and peoples of the foreign nations through which He took His chosen people? undecided

I am not a Christian why would I have mogs or pastors?
You seem not to understand the context of the discussion as regards how specific words change meaning when used with Jesus in the context!

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