HomoSapiien:


Jonathan is a PDP member with a vendetta plan for APC. He’s most likely back to snatch back power from APC for PDP. APC would be making a big mistake if they hand him the ticket.

https://www.nairaland.com/7150648/apc-giving-jonathan-ticket-like

What's the difference between APC and PDP? Atiku, Tambuwa, Amaechi, Akpabio, Sylvia, etc, have jumped back and forth without any issue.

HomoSapiien:


You people said more than this for Buhari in 2015 and 2019

buhari did not win 2015 election..

Tinubu will not even win in south west talk more of ss..

HomoSapiien:


You people said more than this for Buhari in 2015 and 2019

And what did Buhari get? 5%. Tinubu with his baggages and muslim-muslim ticket cannot get 3%

HomoSapiien:


You people said more than this for Buhari in 2015 and 2019

How many votes did Buhari gather in the SS/SE in 2015?

NetValueFX:
I don't know what these people think Tinubu is? His influence starts and ends in Yoruba land.
APC has more northern delegates than South. They will definitely give a northerner their ticket because no southerner can win Atiku in this very election including my own Peter Obi. In the north Children vote, in the educated south even 20year olds don't have time for voting.

Oga keeping on consoling urself from self deceit.

No politician stronger and have influence than tinubu today.

If Tinubu is giving headache for Buhari a sitting president, how much less Atiku or anybody

Philipponzaghi:


Lol, Tinubu influence only ends in the SW? You probably don’t know what you’re talking about.

Leave them,
All I know is no party will field a candidate that can't help it win an election.

adebwalex:
Only Osinbajo can beat this criminal Atiku.. APC should not do any mistake. We cant have another fulani as president. Atiku is a failure.. Good chance for APC TO FIELD IN PYO...

Why do you think only PYO has a chance to beat him?

ojuu4u:



Oga keeping on consoling urself from self deceit.

No politician stronger and have influence than tinubu today.

If Tinubu is giving headache for Buhari a sitting president, how much less Atiku or anybody

That's what your mind tells you... APC primaries will make us know how influencial he is.

HomoSapiien:


And do you think any southerner will be willing queue behind another northerner for another 8 years in APC?

They rather queue behind a northerner than queue behind Tinubu

HomoSapiien:
Obviously, Prof Osinbajo will be a piece of cake for Atiku to be eaten raw. This is all obvious because the VP has no issue based campaign achievement to campaign his way in. No matter what he’s obviously part of Buhari government and their horrible governance of 8years. Beside he’s a pastor and not a Muslim, how’s he going to fly his ambition in the north? Coupled with the fact that he has no political clout, neither is he widely known amongst the political elites, especially in the north. I’m sure APC will not make the mistake of fielding him.

As with the rubber stamped Senate President Ahmed Lawan, although a northerner, he’s not even widely known. We haven’t seen him display any political strategy. Also a part of the government with the most horrible retrogression in the history of Nigeria. More so, Atiku is more popular than him in the South and he has no political structure whatsoever anywhere aside the area he’s representing in the chamber.

GEJ isn’t even an option. He’ll not fly. Both the north and the south understands too well he’s a pun being used by the elites and Buhari cabal to achieve their evil aim of allowing the north take country through him for another 12 years (obviously he’d be their lapdog in his 4 years).

Amaechi is a joker.

Most election are won by strategy and having a structure that can push your interest in far remote village. Remove these two factors, popularity is a waste of time. And you know in APC only Tinubu has the two factors in large measure

Only Tinubu has shown the political strategy, enough to oust an incumbent president in 2015. I believe if Tinubu emerge and Buhari throws his support behind him, owning to the fact that Buhari still has some relevance in the north. And with Tinubu achievement in Lagos and his charm of always having the best minds on board. He’s go
ing to clinch the Ticket.

Yoruba people are funny, for those of you Yoruba who think Gandoje and few Northerner who are deceiving Tinubu really love him, see what Tambuwal did to Wike.

The North always support their own.

Saintinoo:


Yoruba people are funny, for those of you Yoruba who think Gandoje and few Northerner who are deceiving Tinubu really love him, see what Tambuwal did to Wike.

The North always support their own.

Politics is a game of interest and you align your interest with a loyal and trustworthy person. Interestingly, could be that Tambuwal got offered a bigger offer from Atiku and had to switch. It’s not always about my person from the north as it appears.

Tinubu has shown he’s loyal and trustworthy, all those people he’s helped politically will be there to trust whatever bid he’s offering them should he get there, because they know he’s show a trustworthy trait politicians needs to ensure their political survival.

PaChukwudi44:

He was welcomed by the delegates who wanted to partake in the national cake he has been sharing.

He is not popular on the streets.

BTW what makes Tinubu not to be part of the current mess? I thought he is the "National leader" of the APC?

National leader on paper. Does he have any function under Buhari? No!!! He is schemed out completely by the cabal. And Oshinbajo is complicit in the failure of this regime, Tinubu is not. He would go to Aso Rock along with Bisi Akande to silently advise Buhari but he doesn’t listen. He only listens to the cabal. His wife warned him not to associate with people who did nothing about his victory at the poll but Buhari is stubborn.

NetValueFX:


That's what your mind tells you... APC primaries will make us know how influencial he is.

The one Buhari wants to handpick.

Let them go for direct or indirect, come here to tell me the outcome.

Infact, you ask urself why hanky panky to conduct primary if not of fear of Tinubu.

Bye

ojuu4u:



The one Buhari wants to handpick.

Let them go for direct or indirect, come here to tell me the outcome.

Infact, you ask urself why hanky panky to conduct primary if not of fear of Tinubu.

Bye

Hahaha... So much influence indeed. How then is Buhari handing picking? What happened to his yeye influence?

HomoSapiien:


Politics is a game of interest and you align your interest with a loyal and trustworthy person. Interestingly, could be that Tambuwal got offered a bigger offer from Atiku and had to switch. It’s not always about my person from the north as it appears.

Tinubu has shown he’s loyal and trustworthy, all those people he’s helped politically will be there to trust whatever bid he’s offering them should he get there, because they know he’s show a trustworthy trait politicians needs to ensure their political survival.

That is why I said you Yoruba people are funny, your analysis of Nigeria politics is funny, this is not UK.

The North will always support their own, if you like sell your father to them as a sign of trust. They will always support their own, watch out how they will disgrace Tinubu next week, I am not hating on Tinubu but that is just the Truth.

You people should try and travel more, see how these Northerners behave, ask your people in the North if Tinubu have any chance of becoming Nigeria president.

The signs are already there and only a blind man will claim ignorance if seeing it, you think Shettima and Kano state governor are ready to fight Buhari and his cabals and the whole North because if Tinubu? Their houses will be set on fire immediately by Kano and Borno youths.

See the North doesn't think how you do, to them every thing is about them, who ever Buhari lifts his hand wins the election, and Buhari does not like Tinubu nor the North like Tinubu.

In 2015, GEJ made so many northern politicans but they still betrayed him, infact, I was there when the former governor of Bauchi state Dr ISA Yuguda asked his supporters not to vote for him in the Senate race if they won't vote GEJ, but thesame Yuguda masterminded the downfall of GEJ in Bauchi.

The North will show you love to your face and on the eleventh hour, they will betray you. The North will never support any southern candidate unless they will benefit from it. And they have calculated and GEJ is the best bet, if at all they are to support a southern candidates.

Take your time, stroll out, meet a Hausa man in your locality, ask him about the election and if they will support GEJ or Tinubu, if he is sincere, you will get your answer.

Saintinoo:


That is why I said you Yoruba people are funny, your analysis of Nigeria politics is funny, this is not UK.

The North will always support their own, if you like sell your father to them as a sign of trust. They will always support their own, watch out how they will disgrace Tinubu next week, I am not hating on Tinubu but that is just the Truth.

You people should try and travel more, see how these Northerners behave, ask your people in the North if Tinubu have any chance of becoming Nigeria president.

The signs are already there and only a blind man will claim ignorance if seeing it, you think Shettima and Kano state governor are ready to fight Buhari and his cabals and the whole North because if Tinubu? Their houses will be set on fire immediately by Kano and Borno youths.

See the North doesn't think how you do, to them every thing is about them, who ever Buhari lifts his hand wins the election, and Buhari does not like Tinubu nor the North like Tinubu.

In 2015, GEJ made so many northern politicans but they still betrayed him, infact, I was there when the former governor of Bauchi state Dr ISA Yuguda asked his supporters not to vote for him in the Senate race if they won't vote GEJ, but thesame Yuguda masterminded the downfall of GEJ in Bauchi.

The North will show you love to your face and on the eleventh hour, they will betray you. The North will never support any southern candidate unless they will benefit from it. And they have calculated and GEJ is the best bet, if at all they are to support a southern candidates.

Take your time, stroll out, meet a Hausa man in your locality, ask him about the election and if they will support GEJ or Tinubu, if he is sincere, you will get your answer.

Q.E.D. nothing more to add.

drlateef:




It is a massive lie. Only IPOB hates Tinubu because of his success. He is not anti Igbo . And you can see how he was welcome in Delta and Edo. When the die is cast you will see how the other aspirants will work with him to capture the whole of southeast and south south. He is the best bet for APC now. Senate president has no structure like Tinubu everywhere in NIGERIA. And as you said, Amaechi, Oshinbajo, Lawan are all part of the current mess and people will judge them based on that. So, Tinubu is the best bet for APC. Unless you are PDP guy looking for an easy win on APC.

Tinubu is a veteran and will give Atiku a good fight. However, Jonathan seems to be a better option for APC now. Since Atiku will be breaking into Buhari support base in the north, to defeat Atiku, APC will also have to break into his support base in the SS/SE.
Tinubu cannot do this as he is hated by majority voters in SS/SE. GEJ can defeat Atiku in SS/SE. Even Wike will secretly work for GEJ against Atiku.

PrinceOfLagos:
This Tinubu people Sabi deceive and mumu themselves

Which Tinubu can defeat Atiku?

I hiss

just leave dis Yorubas and double standards.....if Tinubu gets APC ticket.....Atiku will win ....infact d south excluding SW will vote Atiku....did Tinubu visit d southern states for his consultation?....he said he don't need d south east.....let's see where he goes from here

drlateef:




Honestly, Tinubu is the best bet for APC now. Otherwise they are heading for a massive defeat. Tinubu has political structures in the north unlike all the other aspirants in APC and south is for him when all the featherweights are removed. He is also a political strategist who can outwit Atiku, none of the others have the political strength required to defeat Atiku. And he has equal war chest if not more than Atiku. I hope APC can see the handwriting on the wall. The die is cast.

The sad reality is that a southerner since 2003 has never won majority votes in the core northern states. Buhari won Obj in core northern states in 2003 and also defeated Jonathan in core northern states in 2011 and 2015. An average northerner will vote a Nothern Muslim over a Southern candidate, it’s just their way. The only way the south can give them a run is if the entire south is United and vote in one direction; it happened in 2011 for Jonathan, he won all states in the southern part except Osun. Anything other than that, no southerner can defeat a northerner in the core northern states; it won’t happen;

HomoSapiien:
Obviously, Prof Osinbajo will be a piece of cake for Atiku to be eaten raw. This is all obvious because the VP has no issue based campaign achievement to campaign his way in. No matter what he’s obviously part of Buhari government and their horrible governance of 8years. Beside he’s a pastor and not a Muslim, how’s he going to fly his ambition in the north? Coupled with the fact that he has no political clout, neither is he widely known amongst the political elites, especially in the north. I’m sure APC will not make the mistake of fielding him.

As with the rubber stamped Senate President Ahmed Lawan, although a northerner, he’s not even widely known. We haven’t seen him display any political strategy. Also a part of the government with the most horrible retrogression in the history of Nigeria. More so, Atiku is more popular than him in the South and he has no political structure whatsoever anywhere aside the area he’s representing in the chamber.

GEJ isn’t even an option. He’ll not fly. Both the north and the south understands too well he’s a pun being used by the elites and Buhari cabal to achieve their evil aim of allowing the north take country through him for another 12 years (obviously he’d be their lapdog in his 4 years).

Amaechi is a joker.

Most election are won by strategy and having a structure that can push your interest in far remote village. Remove these two factors, popularity is a waste of time. And you know in APC only Tinubu has the two factors in large measure

Only Tinubu has shown the political strategy, enough to oust an incumbent president in 2015. I believe if Tinubu emerge and Buhari throws his support behind him, owning to the fact that Buhari still has some relevance in the north. And with Tinubu achievement in Lagos and his charm of always having the best minds on board. He’s going to clinch the Ticket.

An average Ibo man won't vote tinubu. But can slightly vote osibanjo. So where will tinubu get his votes? From Agberos in the street of Lagos?

MikeofAfrica:

Tinubu is a veteran and will give Atiku a good fight. However, Jonathan seems to be a better option for APC now. Since Atiku will be breaking into Buhari support base in the north, to defeat Atiku, APC will also have to break into his support base in the SS/SE.
Tinubu cannot do this as he is hated by majority voters in SS/SE. GEJ can defeat Atiku in SS/SE. Even Wike will secretly work for GEJ against Atiku.

Southwest votes is greater than south south and south east combined. And Tinubu will get far more votes than Jonathan in the north. So Tinubu still remains the best option for APC. Even the so called hatred in south south and south east is a myth. Because they have no cause to hate Tinubu.

You are the saying rubbish here, can lawal beat Atiku just because he is from the North?
It only Tinubu that can do that

PaChukwudi44:
Enough of all these rubbish.Tinubu won't be flying the APC flag.He can't even win outside his SW region.

The way it is the APC might even go for the Ahmed Lawan option.

If Buhari wants to rig in a southerner,it will be GEJ

Tinubu will lose woefully in the SS/SE.He is immensely unpopular in the other southern region outside his SW.With the emergence of Atiku,it would be suicidal for the APC to for him

PaChukwudi44:

Lawan will likely field Kalu as a VP and should win some states in the south.I agree that Atiku is more popular than him but he will win far more vote for the APC than Tinubu

don't forget the threat of NNPP now, that will take some northern votes from APC and PDP so APC can't afford to joke with the south west votes which will be delivered by Tinubu. PDP will win most south Eastern states since APGA has no presidential candidates. The game changer is the south west, don't forget Buhari is not contesting now so his nationwide influence will be limited.

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Philipponzaghi:


Tinubu will have more votes in the North than Ahmad Lawan.

Who the bleep is Lawan lol.

Atiku will defeat Lawan blue and black because Lawan won’t win any state in the South and even in the North he will struggle to get 30%.

North is NE, NW, & NC.

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Philipponzaghi:


Bro Lawan can never win the ticket for APC.

If you say someone like Zulum or El-Rufai now, that’s a different ball game.

Who know Lawan even in that North?

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Philipponzaghi:


Who and who will queue against him? Tinubu/Amaechi and the rest of the southern caucus?

I repeat Lawan will not win any states in the South. I also do not see Tinubu supporting Lawan except if he emerges in a free and fair primaries.

The chances of Lawan emerging from a primaries is 10%.

The Implication of him not winning any state in the South is that Atiku will get the NC and NE. Then maybe the NW can vote Lawan even tho the man is from same NE.

You will tell me how Lawan will win a presidential election by just winning the NW which he won’t even win with 60%. In the NE where he comes from, he and Atiku will share the votes and I tip Atiku to win.

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Philipponzaghi:


Tinubu will win more votes for APC than Lawan. It is a no brainer.

Tinubu will clear the SW and in the NC he will get at least 55% - 60%. That’s two region.

In the SS, the APC structure there will get him nothing less than 30% of the vote considering the fact that some state governors are in the zone that are APC.

In the North, it will now be a game of interest. I can bet Asiwaju will get nothing less than 40% in the votes if and only IF Buhari is forced to support him which is a possibility if he is APC candidate.

He is a Muslim and have more network in the North. They can accuse him of anything but religion/tribalism. So it’ll be a game of APC governors against PDP governors at least.

That’s if he also emerges in a free and fair primaries. If not, there will be fracture in APC and people will withdraw support.

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Philipponzaghi:


So na Lawan go defeat Atiku?

Which region can Lawan win for in the whole South & NC? If APC force him through consensus?

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Philipponzaghi:
The other candidate that can make inroads is Jonathan.

I assume Asiwaju will have no options than to support him or abstain from the proper election.

Jonathan will conveniently get 55% of the votes in both the SS/SE even tho they are traditionally PDP region. I say 50% because of Atiku and LP chunk of votes there.

In the SW, Jonathan will get at least 55%. In the NC, he will get at least 55%.

Then his promoters will do the magic for him in the North if he can get some substantial amount of votes by Northern governors in APC.

Just maybe he might be able to succeed.

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Philipponzaghi:


Lol, Tinubu influence only ends in the SW? You probably don’t know what you’re talking about.

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Philipponzaghi:


Plateau and Benue people will rather die than vote another Fulani (This is not an insult to the Northerners but just stating fact). Even right from time, those states have always been 55/45%. You don’t know what you are talking about. Is Atiku a christain?

Kwara, Kogi, & Niger will vote APC, check their past record. It’s only Nassarawa that will be swing votes.

Lol, in the same SS where even Buhari got more than 35% in the last election?

Hope you know that Bayelsa (at least 30% judging at last governorship election) , Edo (40% with Edo North), Crossriver, & Delta (Omo Agege) will get APC nothing less than 25-30% in those states.

I won’t talk about the SE, IPOB no election threat/Peter Obi LP will make their votes negligible to make a difference.

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Philipponzaghi:


The game here is not that SS will vote Tinubu, it’s that he should get at least 30% in four of the states which is statistically possible.

Even Buhari as bad as he is, got that 30% in those states.

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