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Re: Why Do You Praise The Name Of Jesus Christ? by Kobojunkie: 4:38am On Jan 30, 2023 |
Emmanuel30a, In the passage, Jesus Christ makes clear how very different He was from the Teachers of the Law, the Pharisees included. 31 “If I tell people about myself, they cannot be sure that what I say is true. |
Re: Why Do You Praise The Name Of Jesus Christ? by MightySparrow: 6:12am On Jan 30, 2023 |
peggywebbs: From kobojunkie's posts, you will realize that she is confused. ( I have seen some people addressing her as he, but her profile reveals her gender). Back to the topic: her arguments are hazy and obtruse always. She criticizes every sect of christian denomination yet her own ideas does not agree with any. Could you please ask her which sect of christian denominations she belongs. Surely her ideas much come from some strange source. 2 Likes |
Re: Why Do You Praise The Name Of Jesus Christ? by Kobojunkie: 6:54am On Jan 30, 2023 |
MightySparrow:I don't criticize the religion of Christianity/Churchianism. I point out the fact that it is not Jesus Christ who gave a Law instead to His followers, not religion. In addition, if the ideas are lies, how can they agree with what is instead the Truth of God as taught by Jesus Christ Himself? For instance, back to the topic at hand, Jesus Christ made it abundantly clear that, ■ He does not receive honor from human beings ■ He only receives honor from God, the Father Jesus Christ explained that, unlike the Pharisees and the teachers of the law of the time who bathed themselves in the glory/honor they received from other humans, He, Jesus Christ, does not receive glory/honor from humans. Instead, the only glory/honor/praises He receives is that which comes directly to Him from His Father and His Father alone. This is further revealed in the prayer Jesus Christ said to the Father in John 17. Those of you who are of the religion of Churchianism/Christianity treat Jesus Christ, who you claim to trust and believe, as though He were equal to the Pharisees when you pretend you honor Him with your many praises and your worship songs which you pretend glorify Him. So, why in the world would I expect to agree with you who are steeped in lies— blinded to the Truth of God clearly written in human language for all to comprehend— that is against Jesus Christ? Does that make sense to you? |
Re: Why Do You Praise The Name Of Jesus Christ? by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:10am On Jan 30, 2023 |
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Re: Why Do You Praise The Name Of Jesus Christ? by MightySparrow: 8:12am On Jan 30, 2023 |
Kobojunkie: I agree with you 100% and I agree with you also that you don't agree with any Christianity/Churchianism sect. I'd like to join your church/ ministry/ organization/ society. Whatever What is sect and what are your teachings. Just outline few of them. Cheers. |
Re: Why Do You Praise The Name Of Jesus Christ? by Emmanuel30a: 11:24am On Jan 30, 2023 |
Kobojunkie:Then by now, you should have known WHAT GOD AND THE LORD JESUS CHRIST MEANT IN THOSE PASSAGES OR IN THOSE BIBLE PASSAGES... |
Re: Why Do You Praise The Name Of Jesus Christ? by Kobojunkie: 3:32pm On Jan 30, 2023 |
Emmanuel30a:Show me that you do. Was Jesus Christ no different from the Pharisees whom He wanted in this passage to differentiate Himself from? 40 But you refuse to come to me to have that life.Was Jesus Christ lying or was He deluded when He declared that He does not want to be praised by humans? |
Re: Why Do You Praise The Name Of Jesus Christ? by peggywebbs(f): 3:39pm On Jan 30, 2023 |
She's made it clear that she's her own pastor, teacher, and evangelist. According to her, Jesus comes down from heaven daily to teach her the word of God. So there's really nothing anyone can tell her. But I strongly believe she is a Jehovah's witness, she sounds very much like them. They'll rather not hear what anyone has to say but themselves. If she isn't one, then she's obviously from a fruit that falls not too far from that tree. There are many Christians like that today and it's a shame that the church is divided among itself. MightySparrow: |
Re: Why Do You Praise The Name Of Jesus Christ? by Kobojunkie: 3:45pm On Jan 30, 2023 |
peggywebbs:1. There is no point resorting to lies for Pete's sake. I understand you do not accept the Words of Jesus Christ but surely you do not also need to twist my own words , do you? 2. I am not even of the Religion since God never gave men religion. Instead, what He gave were Laws. |
Re: Why Do You Praise The Name Of Jesus Christ? by Emmanuel30a: 4:34pm On Jan 30, 2023 |
Kobojunkie:Are u a male or a female...? Are u hale or u are pale...? Are u hale&healthy or u are pale... U are like a pail or like a rail...? Like a rail or like a rail trail...? All hail the king or all hail ur king...? ALL HAIL THE KING WHO MAKES ME PREVAILED OVER GAYLE&ABIGAEL OR GAYLE&ABIGAIL... ALL HAIL THE KING OF Kings, WHO MADE IT POSSIBLE 4ME NOT TO FAIL... WHO was nailed, so that I wouldn't fail&so that I wouldn't be frail... So that I wouldn't be afraid of snail or of the snails trail or of the trails made by snails... My tail is not nailed&I am not jailed... I am not in jail... ALL HAIL THE KING OF Kings... U want the details? Don't be frail&don't derail...Maybe u are 2frail 2hail...? Use ur tail, ur pail, etc; 2hail... |
Re: Why Do You Praise The Name Of Jesus Christ? by Emmanuel30a: 4:53pm On Jan 30, 2023 |
Kobojunkie:"ALL HAIL THE KING, O GLORIOUS ABOVE OR THE GLORIOUS ABOVE..." Kobojunkie, HAIL THE KING OF Kings... Don't be like monkey&donkey or don't be a monkey&a donkey... Even monkey&donkey, do hail THE KING OF Kings or do praise GOD&THE LORD JESUS CHRIST... Did u like disk or disc jokery or u like 2do disk or disc mockery...? U are a disk or disc joker or u are a disc or disk mocker... U are like a disk or disc joker or u are like a disk or disc mocker...? U are like or u have a disc or disk moniker...? Coker or Rio Coker moniker...? Reo Coker moniker or Monica moniker...? Are u a Coker that is driving a car or u are a Monica...,etc; that is driving a car? Don't put urself or ur life at risk of being brisked&whisked away from... |
Re: Why Do You Praise The Name Of Jesus Christ? by Emmanuel30a: 5:12pm On Jan 30, 2023 |
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Re: Why Do You Praise The Name Of Jesus Christ? by Emmanuel30a: 5:39pm On Jan 30, 2023 |
Kobojunkie:If u think u are a monkey or...like a monkey&a donkey, then go&play hockey...Go&be playing hockey... Maybe u a turkey or u are like a turkey...? What is key or what is d key...?Who is d key or who holds d key, 2being a monkey or 2make u a human being, bcomin a monkey, a donkey&a turkey,etc...?If u think u are a monkey, turkey, donkey,etc; u can go 2d monastery, 2learn or 2know d mastery&mistery of,4&in chemistry... U want 2start a ministry or u want 2start&av ur own ministry? Then, u need dmastery&mistery of, in&4 a ministry...; so u won't end up in misery&mortuary... On dcontrary, u can go 2mortuary with ur diary this february, 2know/learn dmastery&mistery of ministry,chemistry,etc; if u can't go2 sanctuary&seminary... |
Re: Why Do You Praise The Name Of Jesus Christ? by Emmanuel30a: 5:48pm On Jan 30, 2023 |
Kobojunkie:Kobojunkie, you are ordinary... You want to become extra-ordinary...?... |
Re: Why Do You Praise The Name Of Jesus Christ? by Steep(m): 6:14pm On Jan 30, 2023 |
Kobojunkie:anyone that does not honour Jesus does not honour the Father. John 5:23 That all men should honour the Son, even as they honour the Father. He that honoureth not the Son honoureth not the Father which hath sent him. |
Re: Why Do You Praise The Name Of Jesus Christ? by Kobojunkie: 7:18pm On Jan 30, 2023 |
Steep:Let's see if you can think this one through for yourself. You quoted from verse 23 so, here are questions for you... ■ Do you honor the Son by giving Him that which He told you He does not receive from humans? ■ Or do you honor the Son by giving Him that which He in fact requires of you — asks that you do if you love Him? Which is it? |
Re: Why Do You Praise The Name Of Jesus Christ? by Chibuezem(m): 9:02am On Apr 25, 2023 |
Dtruthspeaker:omo na finishing be this oh |
Re: Why Do You Praise The Name Of Jesus Christ? by Chibuezem(m): 9:06am On Apr 25, 2023 |
Kobojunkie:if your master is Jesus Christ then do you believe that he resurrected? |
Re: Why Do You Praise The Name Of Jesus Christ? by Kobojunkie: 2:13pm On Apr 25, 2023 |
Chibuezem:When you are done playing to your pastors script and ready to talk about your reality , let me know.. |
Re: Why Do You Praise The Name Of Jesus Christ? by Chibuezem(m): 2:19pm On Apr 25, 2023 |
Kobojunkie:My bro I don't know what you have against pastors, churches, fellowship, jews, gentiles All I know is that 1)you don't believe in the resurrection of our lord Jesus Christ. 2)You don't have sound interpretation of the scripture. I will recite this till I die My master, saviour, Lord and general Overseer is Jesus Christ, The Son of God. The lamb that was slain for my sins,the soon coming King. |
Re: Why Do You Praise The Name Of Jesus Christ? by Kobojunkie: 2:20pm On Apr 25, 2023 |
Chibuezem:Again, When you are done playing to your pastor's script and ready to talk about your very own reality , let me know.. Know this, the Kingdom of God is not of mental assent or recitations, so all those incantations and ramblings you lot do --- including invocations--- are meaningless where God and the things of God are concerned. |
Re: Why Do You Praise The Name Of Jesus Christ? by Westerhoffe(m): 5:47pm On Jun 23, 2023 |
Kobojunkie: Do you yourself have any idea of what you quoted and posted? John 5 (KJV) ¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯ ⁴⁰ And ye will not come to me, that ye might have life. ⁴¹ I receive not honour from men. ⁴² But I know you, that ye have not the love of God in you. ⁴³ I am come in my Father's name, and ye receive me not: if another shall come in his own name, him ye will receive. ⁴⁴ How can ye believe, which receive honour one of another, and seek not the honour that cometh from God only? JESUS CHRIST never discouraged praising Him. This is another of your annoying and blatant lies. Contrary to what you stated that JESUS CHRIST never asked anyone to praise Him, see what JESUS CHRIST said here: Luke 19 (KJV) ¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯ ³⁸ Saying, Blessed be the King that cometh in the name of the Lord: peace in heaven, and glory in the highest. ³⁹ And some of the Pharisees from among the multitude said unto him, Master, rebuke thy disciples. ⁴⁰ And he answered and said unto them, I tell you that, if these should hold their peace, the stones would immediately cry out. Meanwhile, JESUS CHRIST said: John 5 (KJV) ¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯ ²² For the Father judgeth no man, but hath committed all judgment unto the Son: ²³ That all men should honour the Son, even as they honour the Father. He that honoureth not the Son honoureth not the Father which hath sent him. Now, can you see why you're always on the opposite side of the Truth? You claimed JESUS CHRIST said He does not need honour/praise from men, yet JESUS CHRIST said you should honour(or praise) Him as your honour(praise) the FATHER! Kobojunkie come and let's drag this out afresh. |
Re: Why Do You Praise The Name Of Jesus Christ? by Kobojunkie: 5:58pm On Jun 23, 2023 |
Westerhoffe:The same Jesus Christ in John 14 vs 15 - 23 explained that those who love Him are those who do as He commands and He never commanded any man to praise Him with words— the only way to honor God is to live one's life in continuous submission and obedience to His teachings and commandments. So, what exactly are you trying so hard to argue? As for that written in Luke 19, those crying out are blessed is the King, read Jesus Christ's response to the similar blessing on his person in Luke 11 vs 27 - 28. Clearly, He does not desire your praises but rather intends for you to Obey His teachings and commandments - John 15 vs 14 |
Re: Why Do You Praise The Name Of Jesus Christ? by Westerhoffe(m): 6:00pm On Jun 23, 2023 |
Kobojunkie: You just go contrary to John 5 (KJV) ¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯ ²² For the Father judgeth no man, but hath committed all judgment unto the Son: ²³ That all men should honour the Son, even as they honour the Father. He that honoureth not the Son honoureth not the Father which hath sent him. What does that make you? |
Re: Why Do You Praise The Name Of Jesus Christ? by Kobojunkie: 6:04pm On Jun 23, 2023 |
Westerhoffe:Again, you are not making any sense. Clearly, the Son told you that it is not by way of your praises that He is honored but rather by way of your obedience to His teachings and commandments that you show your love for Him - John 14 vs 15 - 23. Slow down and carefully process what is stated so you are able to gain an understanding of what even the passage you quoted is saying to you. Think on this, if the only way to honor/love the Son is by doing only that which the Son in fact commanded, and as it turns out the Son never, in fact, asked you to sing His praises, then surely you can see that it is meaningless to sing him praises. As for that written in Luke 19, those crying out are blessed is the King, read Jesus Christ's response to the similar blessing on his person in Luke 11 vs 27 - 28. Clearly, He does not desire your praises but rather intends for you to Obey His teachings and commandments - John 15 vs 14 |
Re: Why Do You Praise The Name Of Jesus Christ? by Westerhoffe(m): 6:12pm On Jun 23, 2023 |
Kobojunkie: You're clearly blinded by ignorance that would make you think you are making any sense here! Did JESUS CHRIST say you should honour the Son as you honour the FATHER? I hope you're not teaching anyone these your contorted, misquoted, false and wrongly explained doctrines! JESUS CHRIST there simply stopped the woman from giving GLORY to Mary!!! Oh my goodness! If JESUS CHRIST truly does not want praises, He would have simply told the people praising and hailing Him at His entrance into Jerusalem TO STOP! But He didn't!! Rather He replied that, if they stop, the stones will cry out! You need to come for Bible Lectures! See contortion of the Bible in broad day light! |
Re: Why Do You Praise The Name Of Jesus Christ? by Kobojunkie: 6:37pm On Jun 23, 2023 |
Westerhoffe:1. And the same Son told you how to honor the Son did He not in John 14 vs 15 -23? Explaining further in John 15 vs 1 - 15 that it is by honoring Him — doing as He commands of you — that you then Honor even His Father and are then loved by His Father. All this means is that you do not get any extra points or bonus points by praising him. So, what exactly is your confusion in this? 2. Seems you need to start using your mind more and stop with those bible lectures. ■ Jesus Christ did not stop the woman from shouting praises at Mary, rather He informed the woman that God's blessings in His Kingdom belong instead to those who live their lives in submission and obedience to His teachings and commandments. ■ Jesus's coming as the King of Israel was prophesied by the prophets where it was not against God to have the King hailed, and as such He had no reason to stop the people there. Many of those people who hailed Him were probably among those who stoned Him as He walked to the cross days later ■ To His followers, Jesus Christ made clear that He did not desire praises from humans meaning that they did not need to hail Him but rather were best doing as He commanded of them instead. |
Re: Why Do You Praise The Name Of Jesus Christ? by Westerhoffe(m): 6:43pm On Jun 23, 2023 |
Kobojunkie: Your error, ignorance and arrogance will not let you learn always! “If ye love me, keep my commandments.” — John 14:15 (KJV) “If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father's commandments, and abide in his love.” — John 15:10 (KJV) Where did JESUS CHRIST say, Do not praise Me here? You keep misquoting the Bible ignorantly and arrogantly!!!! JESUS CHRIST said there that men do not honour Him and not Men should not honour Him!!! Can't you understand the passage!!!? Why can't you understand the phrase in the statement? I receive not honour from men means men are not honoring Him when they should have. I request not honour from men means He is not asking men to honour Him. I do not want honour from men means He does not want men to honour Him. Why can't you understand the difference!? And YES! JESUS CHRIST stopped the woman from giving glory unto Mary, and making her and all the people realize what they are to know, which is, “But he said, Yea rather, blessed are they that hear the word of God, and keep it.” — Luke 11:28 (KJV) And it was nowhere in the Bible written that people cast stones at JESUS CHRIST on His way to be crucified. 1 Like |
Re: Why Do You Praise The Name Of Jesus Christ? by Kobojunkie: 6:51pm On Jun 23, 2023 |
Westerhoffe:1. I actually should be the one asking you, from what you have posted where is Jesus Christ written to have said that you should praise Him. 2. It seems you are again projecting your confusion onto me here. I clearly explained in my earlier post that Jesus Christ did not stop anyone from praising him rather He corrected them that the better way to do such is to submit to and obey His teachings and commandments. What is written in John 5 vs 41 amounts to Jesus Christ saying something like, "You do not get points(bonus or none) from me in the Kingdom of God if you praise me with your words as the only way to honor me is to obey my teachings and commandments." By the way, you cannot ignore the context on this one. |
Re: Why Do You Praise The Name Of Jesus Christ? by Westerhoffe(m): 6:54pm On Jun 23, 2023 |
Kobojunkie: Replying to the bolded in the quoted comment of yours. “Add thou not unto his words, lest he reprove thee, and thou be found a liar.” — Proverbs 30:6 (KJV) |
Re: Why Do You Praise The Name Of Jesus Christ? by Kobojunkie: 6:54pm On Jun 23, 2023 |
Westerhoffe:Stop deviating! Rather process the response carefully. |
Re: Why Do You Praise The Name Of Jesus Christ? by Westerhoffe(m): 6:55pm On Jun 23, 2023 |
Kobojunkie: “I receive not honour from men.” — John 5:41 (KJV) Explain this only. Let me see how well you understand English first. |
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