to be fair to the media, phil jones deserves all kinds of hype he gets.

what kind of a defender is that lad? his driving runs is better than any defender i know in the premier league. jeeez, that boy is scary.
arsene wenger and kenny dalglish are fools to have let that boy come to us. he's worth every penny spent on him. he absolutely murdered stoke last night but he was at fault for peter crouch's goal!

i dunno why rio's organisation pitched phil jones with the tallest player - it was a mismatch! it was a good draw though. fergie's mistake was bringing on owen when macheda/welbeck would have been better. i cannot count the number of times berbatov was frustrated with owen cos michael owen made no movement to receive through passes. welbeck/macheda still understand link-up play. owen was diabolical.

@ Sharon

I hope you now agree the Britannia can also be horricious for y'all.

As for Fergie playing Owen, I guess he got carried away by the CC performance.

De Gea? The Walters save was the only impressive one, the others were quite routine or directly shot at him.

He's getting way more stick than deserved though - the likes of Reina and Cech aren't covering themselves with glory so far. In my opinion Begovic is currently the best performing GK in the league not De Gea, the 4-0 thrashing by Sunderland not withstanding.

debosky:

@ Sharon
I hope you now agree the Britannia can also be horricious for y'all.

it's not horricious - that's the first time stoke fc would take any point against man utd since they got promoted.
their draw even reeks of dodgy decisions - in spite of united losing rooney and hernandez.

As for Fergie playing Owen, I guess he got carried away by the CC performance.

fergie must be smoking lah for thinking owen would boss woodgate and shawcross!

De Gea? The Walters save was the only impressive one, the others were quite routine or directly shot at him.

i guess you didn't see the wilkinson save! that was better than johnny walters snap shot!
de gea is a top goalkeeper. all he needs now is the presence in the box and that would come when he grows fully and fills his frame.

He's getting way more stick than deserved though - the likes of Reina and Cech aren't covering themselves with glory so far. In my opinion Begovic is currently the best performing GK in the league not De Gea, the 4-0 thrashing by Sunderland not withstanding.

begovic ko, vidic ni.
begovic is not even better than al-habsi.
de gea reigns supreme - far better than your sczcesny and loads better than joe hart!

^^^^ lol . . .

coogar:


i dunno why rio's organisation pitched phil jones with the tallest player - it was a mismatch! it was a good draw though. fergie's mistake was bringing on owen when macheda/welbeck would have been better.

Thats because Rio hides from responsbilities.

One move that the ball was floated over him, Crouch chested and De Gea had to make a point blank save.

[size=18pt]I repeat Rio is a useless defender.[/size]

De Gea made 3 top draw saves the one who punched moments after the goal, the grounder shot that he parriedand that Crouchs save around 54mins

dayokanu:

Thats because Rio hides from responsbilities.

One move that the ball was floated over him, Crouch chested and De Gea had to make a point blank save.

I repeat Rio is a useless defender.

De Gea made 3 top draw saves the one who punched moments after the goal, the grounder shot that he parriedand that Crouchs save around 54mins

so all these suggested rio is a useless defender? do you watch your football upside down?

phil jones lost peter crouch for the goal, not rio.
crouch had to make a run from his starting to position before jumping to head the ball. he would always get there before rio!

The floated ball over Rio in 54th min?

the disorganisation at the back?

Why was Jones marking Crouch? His inability to take responsibilities rather choose to hide behind other defenders

All these point to it that Rio is a USELESS defender.

It would have been better for the youngins like Smalling, Jones and Evans to continue than for that Useless defender called Rio to come and spoil their game

dayokanu:

The floated ball over Rio in 54th min?
the disorganisation at the back?

which floated ball over rio? stop talking like a bushman watching football for the first time.
vidic - the best defender in europe has never lost an aerial incursion before?

Why was Jones marking Crouch? His inability to take responsibilities rather choose to hide behind other defenders

after watching it again. . . . .crouch left rio to stay further out. . . . . .crouch was at the edge of the box when the corner was floated. rio couldn't have left his position to man mark crouch.

All these point to it that Rio is a USELESS defender.

if these point to it that rio is a useless defender, what should we say about all the defenders in bundesliga who have conceded tonnes of goals this season already? you are not an astute observer of the game. you watch your footie upside down!

It would have been better for the youngins like Smalling, Jones and Evans to continue than for that Useless defender called Rio to come and spoil their game

of course, smalling, jones, evans are better than rio.
and this was the same jones you dissed two weeks ago that badstuber is better than!

That ball Rio did not jump at all. that crouch behind him could chest the ball

For coruch to chest the ball that means Rio could have headed it out.

If not for the heroics of De Gea.

Rio is a worthless defender and always hides behind more hardworking ones

coogar:

which floated ball over rio? stop talking like a bushman watching football for the first time.
vidic - the best defender in europe has never lost an aerial incursion before?

after watching it again. . . . .crouch left rio to stay further out. . . . . .crouch was at the edge of the box when the corner was floated. rio couldn't have left his position to man mark crouch.

if these point to it that rio is a useless defender, what should we say about all the defenders in bundesliga who have conceded tonnes of goals this season already? you are not an astute observer of the game. you watch your footie upside down!

of course, smalling, jones, evans are better than rio.
and this was the same jones you dissed two weeks ago that badstuber is better than!

Badstuber is better than Jones and Jones better than Rio

Badstuber >>> Jones >>>>>>>>> Rio

There is a reason Badstubers defence has only conceded one goal both in Bundesliga and Europe this season

dayokanu:

That ball Rio did not jump at all. that crouch behind him could chest the ball
For coruch to chest the ball that means Rio could have headed it out.
If not for the heroics of De Gea.

stop debating like this now - crouch is miles taller than rio!
crouch is the tallest player in the league and such is bread n butter for him

Rio is a worthless defender and always hides behind more hardworking ones

even when vidic couldn't play last season, rio hid behind who? behind matt hummels?

Badstuber is better than Jones and Jones better than Rio
Badstuber >>> Jones >>>>>>>>> Rio

that will be the same badstuber that nani sodomized times without number!

There is a reason Badstubers defence has only conceded one goal both in Bundesliga and Europe this season

the reason badstubers defence has conceded only one goal in bundesliga is because the league is shyte!
it's like playing brazil in a group of 20 teams including tahiti, somalia, san marino, comoros island, libya, etc. if bayern munich are in the premier league, they would be just above arsenal in the 11th position. schalke wey be german champions and manuel neuer, bundesliga's best goalie conceded 7 goals against man utd's 2nd team.

coogar:


the reason badstubers defence has conceded only one goal in bundesliga is because the league is shyte!
it's like playing brazil in a group of 20 teams including tahiti, somalia, san marino, comoros island, libya, etc. if bayern munich are in the premier league, they would be just above arsenal in the 11th position. schalke wey be german champions and manuel neuer, bundesliga's best goalie conceded 7 goals against man utd's 2nd team.

You have started with your goofy self again

Badstuber played 3 CL games already and didnt concede.

Moreover can you tell me which year Schalke was German Champions??

That kind of statement is supposed to be heard from edoyad and dipo+ not even debosky

Get the video of that particular move and see how useless Rio is.

Rio can never start for any German team even U21.

Whenever he doesnt have the Vidic and co to cover for him he ends up being so useless.

By now he should have tattooed Yakubus name to his as55

dayokanu:

You have started with your goofy self again

that was meant to be german's last representative in europe last season - which is besides the main point.
that is how u leave the main point and chase pedantry! did schalke concede 7 goals or not? did neuer concede 7 goals or not?

Badstuber played 3 CL games already and didnt concede.

against which teams?
the dregs of europe - gate crashers!!
big teams don't play in that level in europe.

dayokanu:

Get the video of that particular move and see how useless Rio is.
Rio can never start for any German team even U21.

and metresacker has copped close to 100 games for germany?

Whenever he doesnt have the Vidic and co to cover for him he ends up being so useless.
By now he should have tattooed Yakubus name to his as55

rio minus vidic kept barcelona's messi that had messi, etoo, henry, xavi, iniesta from scoring in 2008!
a piece of history for you there. when the same barcelona team met bayern munich, it was 4-0.

coogar:

that was meant to be german's last representative in europe last season - which is besides the main point.
that is how u leave the main point and chase pedantry! did schalke concede 7 goals or not? did neuer concede 7 goals or not?

When Arsenal was the last representative in Europe in 2006 qualifies to call the English champions right?

FACT is you beat a horrible Schalke who sacked their coach weeks before playing Man Utd.

Schalke conceded 7 goals and what was Schalkes Bundesliga position last season?

You are bragging about a team who finished 2 spots above relegation last Spring?

I doubt Bayern, Barcelona AC Milan etc would brag about Wigan Athletic conceding 7 goals against them

against which teams?
the dregs of europe - gate crashers!!
big teams don't play in that level in europe.

Villareal Europan gate crashers? Badstuber led a defence that kept a clean sheet vs Villareal who has never lost at Madrigal in the CL. While Rio couldnt handle ordinary Peter Crouch?

and metresacker has copped close to 100 games for germany?

Thats the sad part. Even Mertersacker is better than Rio. Were Rio German, He would never have a career in football

rio minus vidic kept barcelona's messi that had messi, etoo, henry, xavi, iniesta from scoring in 2008!
a piece of history for you there. when the same barcelona team met bayern munich, it was 4-0.

and which players did Barcelona score 4 goals against? Breno, Lell, Massimo Oddo?

What is Rio doing about that Yakubu tattoo on his behind? 

dayokanu:

When Arsenal was the last representative in Europe in 2006 qualifies to call the English champions right?
FACT is you beat a horrible Schalke who sacked their coach weeks before playing Man Utd.
Schalke conceded 7 goals and what was Schalkes Bundesliga position last season?
You are bragging about a team who finished 2 spots above relegation last Spring?
I doubt Bayern, Barcelona AC Milan etc would brag about Wigan Athletic conceding 7 goals against them

the depths of foolishness you can swim sometimes.
these pathetic schalke eliminated inter milan(defending champions) and i can suck out your comments when they drew man utd in the semis.
you said united would go down against a german side and neuer would blitz rooney and co. . . . . . until the german side lost scandalously in germany!

Villareal Europan gate crashers? Badstuber led a defence that kept a clean sheet vs Villareal who has never lost at Madrigal in the CL. While Rio couldnt handle ordinary Peter Crouch?

the same rio have handled better teams - kept better strikers toothless without vidic(your superman).
180 mins of football against the best attacking side in europe(etoo + messi + henry) and 0 goals conceded!
talking as if it's the first time rio has shut down peter crouch -

Thats the sad part. Even Mertersacker is better than Rio. Were Rio German, He would never have a career in football

i won't even get into that!
rio and metresacker? this is when people would say dayokanu is a tool!

and which players did Barcelona score 4 goals against? Breno, Lell, Massimo Oddo?

they disgraced you guys again @ the audi cup!
that was barcelona's team b and they sodomized bayern on their own soil!

i am waiting for u to say it was a friendly game. germans don't lose at home so you got royally served!

What is Rio doing about that Yakubu tattoo on his behind? 

no defender has sodomized yakubu more than rio!
go and read rio's book and what yakubu thinks of him!

You two should keep your irrational arguments on this thread. . . .it's the best place for it.

debosky:

You two should keep your irrational arguments on this thread. . . .it's the best place for it.

i can see you are itching to join in!

coogar:

the depths of foolishness you can swim sometimes.
these pathetic schalke eliminated inter milan(defending champions) and i can suck out your comments when they drew man utd in the semis.
you said united would go down against a german side and neuer would blitz rooney and co. . . . . . until the german side lost scandalously in germany!

Feel free to dig up. You claimed Schalke were German champs ? WRONG

Schalke were in horrible form, YES, Sacked their coach YES, Finished 2 spots above relegation YES.

It would require the biggest gambler to stake money on Schalke (A relegation battling side) beating Man Utd (Perenial EPL Champ)

the same rio have handled better teams - kept better strikers toothless without vidic(your superman).
180 mins of football against the best attacking side in europe(etoo + messi + henry) and 0 goals conceded!
talking as if it's the first time rio has shut down peter crouch -

Often times, Rio is the weak link in defence, He is a horrible defender end of. whenever he was left on his own vs average strikers, he has always been exposed.

In rome a Messi who is barely 5ft 6 even outjumped him. What a disgrace

i won't even get into that!
rio and metresacker? this is when people would say dayokanu is a tool!

No doubt Mertersacker is better than Rio could ever be,

they disgraced you guys again @ the audi cup!
that was barcelona's team b and they sodomized bayern on their own soil!

Barcelonas B team vs Bayern B team? In a meaningless friendly?

no defender has sodomized yakubu more than rio!
go and read rio's book and what yakubu thinks of him!

What can Yakubu think of Rio when he knows Rio is his Biatch.

debosky:

You two should keep your irrational arguments on this thread. . . .it's the best place for it.

Deborah.

When are you to start your monthly period?

dayokanu:

Feel free to dig up. You claimed Schalke were German champs ? WRONG

pedantry!
i said schalke, german's only hope in europe conceded 7 goals against united. lost home and away too!
the team had the best german keeper in it and he conceded 7. anderson even scored against him!

Schalke were in horrible form, YES, Sacked their coach YES, Finished 2 spots above relegation YES.
It would require the biggest gambler to stake money on Schalke (A relegation battling side) beating Man Utd (Perenial EPL Champ)

horrible form but they got to the semi-finals - bayern munich have only managed that once  in a decade.
schalke were horrible, they defeated inter milan - the same team that disgraced bayern munich in the previous edition.

i can't work it out.

Often times, Rio is the weak link in defence, He is a horrible defender end of. whenever he was left on his own vs average strikers, he has always been exposed.

much better than vidic. so what does that make vidic?
vidic has committed more errors than rio. it's vidic that always gets sent off in games. it was vidic that torres battered the other season against rafa benitez's men. it was vidic that got fired against etoo in rome. it's always vidic vidic vidic. rio is the better half.
the one english defender better than all the german defenders in the last 11 years.

In rome a Messi who is barely 5ft 6 even outjumped him. What a disgrace

stop lying.
messi got a free header! i repeat, free header!!!

No doubt Mertersacker is better than Rio could ever be,

what has mertesacker gotta show for it.

Barcelonas B team vs Bayern B team? In a meaningless friendly?

bayern team b?
schweinsteiger, gomez, kroos, muller, tymoshchuk, olic, badstuber, pranjic, contento, boateng? team b?
i will like to know your team a.

What can Yakubu think of Rio when he knows Rio is his Biatch.

yakubu can't even clean rio's shoes.
ferdinand is the best defender in the league for years now.
what he has won for man utd, no bundesliga defender has done it in 10 fuckin years!

Fabio is d problem not Rio. Seems he has caught a more severe case of what was worrying Evra earlier this season.

Basle could have scored 6 already . . . and its not even 55 minutes yet.
We cant defend like this against Norwich . . . we might not be so lucky.

Talked too early . . .

E don happen.

Its good this happened now . . . it should be a wake up call.

Honestly we should have lost. That way lessons will be learned. D entire back line, not just any one particular culprit, all of them just switched off for pretty much d entire 90 mins. If Basle hadn't gone defensive after taking d lead, they would have won. When they went defensive, I was actually happy cos it meant our back line wasn't being shown to be a wet tissue.

See Schweini pissing in the face of EPL finest. Silva, Nasri, Aguero and Toure eating grass at the foot of king Xavisteiger

This is a shame to the whole EPL if this is the best EPL table toppers can come up with

Gomez once again silenced his doubters. 2 goals.

Bayern once again with a clean sheet. Where is coogar who claims we only do iit in the Bundesliga.

This a Van Buyten silencing EPL's hottest striker Kun Aguero

What a shame

Even Scarface tevez was scared when he saw the artilerry bayern had on display

MIASANMIA!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Emperoh:

[size=18pt]Can't say what's wrong with Rio. I wouldn't know if it's safe to assume Jones pairs better with Evans
Can't seem to stepping in wella with Rio[/size]

Waiting to see how coogar wriggles Rio out of this.

I told ya. Rio is a useless defender. Quote me anywhere

dayokanu:

Waiting to see how coogar wriggles Rio out of this.

I told ya. Rio is a useless defender. Quote me anywhere

Seconded!!! The dude should kindly follow the path of Gary Neville. As someone once said "Once football leaves you,it has left you"!.
Another player to be banned from appearing within the vicinities of Old Trafford is Micheal Carrick, the dude makes Mikel obi look like Messi and Xavi all in one! The dude is utter crap!!

Okay after some thought. All defenders need serious spanking with d exception of De Gea.

Fabio - was d poorest, Lazy, always out of position, no concentration or awareness, couldn't complete even d easiest of passes and manages to get himself injured for good measure.

Rio - where was d leadership? when everyone around you is going gaga, I would expect you to calm things down, tell Jones to focus on fulfilling his primary duties, pull Fabio ears and get him to switch on. Instead you allow d madness to continue. Maybe if VDS was around he would shaken some sense into them. But as d experienced head, you should cracked some skulls if you needed to.

Jones - Now I know many fans love d boy, but time for some truth. he is hugely talented but also very naive. Its a sign of his age and inexperience which aren't his fault. Smalling would never make some of d decisions he makes, neither would Evans. If Evans made some d calls he makes, United fans would probably diss him till he left O.T. Focus on defending, not continually trying to show off your abilities. Defend first and foremost and forget d rest. He kept pushing too high up d pitch and leaving spaces and room. Why he didn't clear leading to d p.k I don't know, it was a real silly schoolboy error.

Evra- Had a good first 45 min but then went back to his old self. Lazy, didn't look even interested in tracking back despite getting caught out of position time and again after pushing forward ineffectively. Couldn't be bothered to tackle, close people down or cover gaps and pick up opposition players.


Special mention to Carrick who was United's best all round player. Typically most fans will bash him first when we don't perform, but today he played well and really covered Ando's poor play, also Welbeck and Giggs did relatively okay.

Meanwhile Nani should please give some classes to Valencia and Young on how to mix it up as United wingers. On d pitch for 20 mins and 2 beautiful deliveries, one that Welbeck should have buried and another that Young did. I don't think Valencia or Young managed any for their 90 mins.