It is called Justice. If a judge sentence a murderer to death does that mean the Judge has no love? Certainly not. Justice has to do with what is right and just.

God is righteous and holy if he destroy humanity but however out of his mercy he provided away for humans to escape the Justice for their sins without and at the same time execute his justice this is through Jesus christ.

God's love was shown to us while Jesus took our identity and paid the price for our sins.
In order words God demonstrated his love and justice in christ without contradiction.

We could only escape judgment because Jesus took our identity and at the same time God 's love is shown to us.

Those who will not accept Jesus would simply bear their sins instead of christ.

The wrath of God upon sin is God's justice, Jesus died to save us from the penalty of our sins which is eternal condemnation.

Indeed...

"For I have no pleasure in the death of him that dieth, saith the Lord God: wherefore turn yourselves, and live ye." - Ezekiel 18:32

"And the Lord passed by before him, and proclaimed, The Lord, The Lord God, merciful and gracious, longsuffering, and abundant in goodness and truth, Keeping mercy for thousands, forgiving iniquity and transgression and sin, and that will by no means clear the guilty; visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children, and upon the children's children, unto the third and to the fourth generation. And Moses made haste, and bowed his head toward the earth, and worshipped." - Exodus 34:6-8

"The Lord is slow to anger, and great in power, and will not at all acquit the wicked: the Lord hath his way in the whirlwind and in the storm, and the clouds are the dust of his feet." - Nahum 1:3

Steep:
It is called Justice. If a judge sentence a murderer to death does that mean the Judge has no love? Certainly not. Justice has to do with what is right and just.
God is righteous and holy if he destroy humanity but however out of his mercy he provided away for humans to escape the Justice for their sins without and at the same time execute his justice this is through Jesus christ.
God's love was shown to us while Jesus took our identity and paid the price for our sins.
In order words God demonstrated his love and justice in christ without contradiction.
We could only escape judgment because Jesus took our identity and at the same time God 's love is shown to us.
Those who will not accept Jesus would simply bear their sins instead of christ.
The wrath of God upon sin is God's justice, Jesus died to save us from the penalty of our sins which is eternal condemnation.

A judge could sentence someone to death but not torture him for eternity.

But I keep asking why does your God need an only/ begotten son?

And does his son had to shed blood and die for other's sin like ritualist?

A God that can send his son to be killed is not a worthy God na!

A God that needs son to perform his duty is not all powerful!

Steep, don't avoid this question.

Steep:
It is called Justice. If a judge sentence a murderer to death does that mean the Judge has no love? Certainly not. Justice has to do with what is right and just.

God is righteous and holy if he destroy humanity but however out of his mercy he provided away for humans to escape the Justice for their sins without and at the same time execute his justice this is through Jesus christ.

God's love was shown to us while Jesus took our identity and paid the price for our sins.
In order words God demonstrated his love and justice in christ without contradiction.

We could only escape judgment because Jesus took our identity and at the same time God 's love is shown to us.

Those who will not accept Jesus would simply bear their sins instead of christ.

The wrath of God upon sin is God's justice, Jesus died to save us from the penalty of our sins which is eternal condemnation.

Why did God destroy infants, kids, lads and animals too in the old testament?

cornelboy:


A judge could sentence someone to death but not torture him for eternity.

Sin against an eternal God carries and eternal punishment.

AntiChristian:
But I keep asking why does your God need an only/ begotten son?

And does his son had to shed blood and die for other's sin like ritualist?

A God that can send his son to be killed is not a worthy God na!

A God that needs son to perform his duty is not all powerful!

Why does Allah not save Muhammad but saved Jesus?

Steep:

Why does Allah not save Muhammad but saved Jesus?

Each with his own destiny!
Muhammad has completed his earthly mission. Jesus hasn't.

May the peace and blessings of Almighty Allah be with both of them.

AntiChristian:


But I keep asking why does your God need an only/ begotten son?

But your allah has daughters, do you question the authors of Quran why does your allah needs daughters namely, Al-lat, Al-uzza and Al-manat?

AntiChristian:


And does his son had to shed blood and die for other's sin like ritualist?

Why does allah has to be giving millions of ram's blood annually? Is allah the same god of iron

AntiChristian:

A God that can send his son to be killed is not a worthy God na!

A deity (allah) that was watching his one and only messenger died from poisonous meat he ate in which people around his dead body abandoned him for three days thought his god will resurrect him is NOT a worthy God na!

AntiChristian:


A God that needs son to perform his duty is not all powerful!

A deity (allah) that needs Angel Jibril to perform his duty is NOT all powerful!

NOTE: Next time I take God beg you, stop thinking from your anus, always think from your brain

LOVE is a quality or attribute and it can only be perceived through ACTION.
A loving God created the earth out of LOVE.
Prepared all what humans need out of LOVE.
Made humans rulers over other creatures out of LOVE.
Set standards for humans not to rule over one another out of LOVE.
Warned them about the consequences of trying to rule over themselves out of LOVE.
So if some chose to be rebellious and want to ruin this wonderful prospect the same God will send them back to non-existence out of LOVE for the obedient ones! Revelations 11:18

Steep:

Sin against an eternal God carries and eternal punishment.

Yeah. Eternal death.

AntiChristian:


Each with his own destiny!
Muhammad has completed his earthly mission. Jesus hasn't.

May the peace and blessings of Almighty Allah be with both of them.

What was the destiny of Mohammad?
Why is Jesus coming again if Mohammad is the last prophet?

cornelboy:

Yeah. Eternal death.

Revelation 14:11 And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name.

Eternal death is not anhilation.

Steep:

Revelation 14:11 And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name.
Eternal death is not anhilation.

Yeah hell (grave) and death too will be tormented and their smoke will rise forever.
Rev. 20:14

Gods love towards gos own includes correction and chastening. Even earthly fathers do go tough on those they love.

Steep:

Sin against an eternal God carries and eternal punishment.

They do not understand my broda.

They cannot imagine how it would feel to be Almighty God who created all things on Earth and in Heaven!

Of course such a God will demand to be worshipped for all time by His creations. Such is natural and good for the Most High.

It is only divine justice to cast all who do not show sincere love into the eternal flames and torture of hellfire.

Believe and worship or burn forever. It is well.

cornelboy:

Yeah hell (grave) and death too will be tormented and their smoke will rise forever.
Rev. 20:14

It's like misinformed religionists love that word "torment forever" instead of asking Jesus' anointed brothers to teach them what the verse means, they just feel like something should be crying in pains forever before a loving God!

Just as the living has continued to remember Noah's unrepentant contemporaries as if they're still drowning in the flood, and the inhabitants of Sodom and Gomorrah as if they're still burning in the fire, that's how we will forever continue to remember all what we went through during the times death, grave digging and evildoers were in operation!

That's what tormented forever means for death, hell and whoever is not found written in God's plan for continuous existence! Revelations 20:15 compare to Psalms 37:10

cornelboy:

Yeah hell (grave) and death too will be tormented and their smoke will rise forever.
Rev. 20:14

where does it say hell would be tormented forever? Rather it clearly says sinners would be tormented forever.

Steep:
where does it say hell would be tormented forever? Rather it clearly says sinners would be tormented forever.

Lake of Fire symbolises complete annihilation but if it means a place of torment to you then whatever goes in there should be tormented too. According to God's word DEATH and HELL goes in there first even before any other thing {Revelations 20:14} so if others are going there to be tormented then DEATH and HELL goes there for the same purpose!

MaxInDHouse:


It's like misinformed religionists love that word "torment forever" instead of asking Jesus' anointed brothers to teach them what the verse means, they just feel like something should be crying in pains forever before a loving God!

Just as the living has continued to remember Noah's unrepentant contemporaries as if they're still drowning in the flood, and the inhabitants of Sodom and Gomorrah as if they're still burning in the fire, that's how we will forever continue to remember all what we went through during the times death, grave digging and evildoers were in operation!

That's what tormented forever means for death, hell and whoever is not found written in God's plan for continuous existence! Revelations 20:15 compare to Psalms 37:10

Do you hear yourself?

Revelation 14:11 And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name.

1.The smoke of their torment ascends forever
2. They have no rest day nor night.


According to Jehovah false witness disorganization.
Sinners are not tormented forever only people keep remembering them as if it is still happening.
That means Jehovah (note Jehovah can never lie) decieves them to think something that is no longer happening as if it is still happening.

Islam and false witness and other false religion serve same god or dog who is a liar .

John 8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

MaxInDHouse:


Lake of Fire symbolises complete annihilation but if it means a place of torment to you then whatever goes in there should be tormented too. According to God's word DEATH and HELL goes in there first even before any other thing {Revelations 20:14} so if others are going there to be tormented then DEATH and HELL goes there for the same purpose!

The truth remains clear. Sinners would be tormented day and night, if they are anhilated then they can not be said to suffer torment however it never said hell and death would be tormented, what you have there is false equivocation.

The bible clearly stated that the devil and sinful humans would be [tormented forever and ever] it never said death and hell would be tormented, so your attempt to smuggle hell and death into same category as the devil and other sinners is dead on arrival.

Steep:

What was the destiny of Mohammad?
Why is Jesus coming again if Mohammad is the last prophet?

His destiny is his lifetime......Do you want me to start explaining that to you here?

Jesus didn't die. So he will come back to complete his mission. His Book will be the Qu'ran. He will defeat the dajjal, fight you people of the cross,.....die and be buried as a Muslim.

Steep:

Do you hear yourself?

Revelation 14:11 And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name.
1.The smoke of their torment ascends forever
2. They have no rest day nor night.

Reading parables and applying it literally!

"The smoke of their torment ascend forever" symbolizes the remembrance as faithful survivors keep enjoying the sweet aroma of peace and security.
"They have no rest day not night"
Means whoever hears the story will not feel comfortable listening to the evil they committed while they were here.

God's word in beginning never said evildoers will have eternal life {Genesis 2:17} immortality is a gift for the righteous and not the wicked. Romans 6:23

So if evildoers live forever then it simply means God lied that Adam will die and Satan is the one who spoke the truth saying "you will not really die" Genesis 3:4

Steep:

The truth remains clear. Sinners would be tormented day and night, if they are anhilated then they can not be said to suffer torment however it never said hell and death would be tormented, what you have there is false equivocation.

The bible clearly stated that the devil and sinful humans would be [tormented forever and ever] it never said death and hell would be tormented, so your attempt to smuggle hell and death into same category as the devil and other sinners is dead on arrival.

The wages of sin is death {Romans 6:23} at death man has fully paid for his sin nothing to be punished for afterwards! Romans 6:7

Steep:
where does it say hell would be tormented forever? Rather it clearly says sinners would be tormented forever.

Revelation 20:14-15
[14]Then death and the grave were thrown into the lake of fire. This lake of fire is the second death.
[15]And anyone whose name was not found recorded in the Book of Life was thrown into the lake of fire.

No be the same lake of fire grave (hell), death and people go burn?

It's clearly stated in verse 14 that grave and death will partake in the second death

Truth is Enki and Enlil are the owners of this world. But Ur Yaweh is Enlil. He destroyed the world with water he was the one who disorganised the builders of a the tower of Babel. Remains of the last cataclysmic event are found in the north pole. No God is benevolent. They thrive on the imbalance in creation. Some will enjoy others must suffer.

AntiChristian:


His destiny is his lifetime......Do you want me to start explaining that to you here?

Jesus didn't die. So he will come back to complete his mission. His Book will be the Qu'ran. He will defeat the dajjal, fight you people of the cross,.....die and be buried as a Muslim.

Why did allah deceive the jews to think the killed Jesus whom they didn't kill, that means allah is a deciever.
Why would another prophet come after Mohammad since Mohammad was the last prophet?
Do well to answer the question.
It is well known that book harm, iswap, isis, bandit and other terrorists are doing the will of allah.

MaxInDHouse:


Reading parables and applying it literally!

"The smoke of their torment ascend forever" symbolizes the remembrance as faithful survivors keep enjoying the sweet aroma of peace and security.
"They have no rest day not night"
Means whoever hears the story will not feel comfortable listening to the evil they committed while they were here.

God's word in beginning never said evildoers will have eternal life {Genesis 2:17} immortality is a gift for the righteous and not the wicked. Romans 6:23

So if evildoers live forever then it simply means God lied that Adam will die and Satan is the one who spoke the truth saying "you will not really die" Genesis 3:4

You are so deluded in the disorganization lies.

In other words it is the faithfuls that would be would be tormented forever right?
Chai

cornelboy:

Revelation 20:14-15
[14]Then death and the grave were thrown into the lake of fire. This lake of fire is the second death.
[15]And anyone whose name was not found recorded in the Book of Life was thrown into the lake of fire.

No be the same lake of fire grave (hell), death and people go burn?

It's clearly stated in verse 14 that grave and death will partake in the second death

Where is the word "torment" mentioned for hell and death?

Steep:


Why did allah deceive the jews to think the killed Jesus whom they didn't kill, that means allah is a deciever.

All is fair in war. There's no deceit in times of war. Jesus's destiny is not to die.
Allah is our protector! And death will never take anyone except his time is up.
So it's Allah's plan to save his servant.

Why would another prophet come after Mohammad since Mohammad was the last prophet?
Do well to answer the question.
It is well known that book harm, iswap, isis, bandit and other terrorists are doing the will of allah.

Jesus is a prophet before Muhammad. I told you he didn't die. So his mission hasn't end.

Muhammad is the last prophet. No Prophet will come after.

And about terrorism, there are many Christians and non-Muslims helping it too. Can we say your Bible supports terrorism?

USA , Israel, Russia, etc are not Muslim countries but they support terrorism against other nations.

Moreso, your God committed those violent acts in the old testament. And hopefully I will be sharing that with you and your holy spirit brothers next.

Steep:

You are so deluded in the disorganization lies.
In other words it is the faithfuls that would be would be tormented forever right?
Chai

What comes to your mind when you hear names like Abel, Enoch, Noah, Lot, Moses and many more who will be here to relate their experience with the evildoers of their time?

Well all these people will be in Paradise and generations to come will forever continue to listen while these people relate their experience in the midst of those that were destroyed. The dreadful thoughts that comes along with their true life experience is what God's word is saying hear not that anyone will continue feeling pains in the presence of our loving God.
The wages of sin is death {Romans 6:23} they have fully paid for their evil deeds with death {Romans 6:7} so nothing for them again because they will be forgotten in their graves! Psalms 9:17

May you have PEACE!