compton11:
cos he who nailed on cross is ACCURSED!

For the first time in your life, honestly open that book for knowledge sake. It will go a long way in at least helping you sound more knowledgeable in these things.

The book is written by human hands and in human language for consumption by those who are of sound mind and able to comprehend what is written by humans- it isn't holy. So what are you afraid of?

Kobojunkie:
For the first time in your life, honestly open that book for knowledge sake. It will go a long way in at least helping you sound more knowledgeable in these things.

The book is written by human hands and in human language for consumption by those who are of sound mind and able to comprehend what is written by humans- it isn't holy. So what are you afraid of?

are saying Bible never called a person nailed on cross ACCURSED?

compton11:
are saying Bible never called a person nailed on cross ACCURSED?

Bible is a compendium of books ... a book typically doesn't talk. Instead God is the one who put a curse on those who hang dead from a tree - Deuteronomy 21 vs 22 - 23.

Read the book so you sound more informed at least.

Kobojunkie:
Bible is a compendium of books ... a book typically doesn't talk. Instead God is the one who put a curse on those who hang dead from a tree - Deuteronomy 21 vs 22 - 23.

Read the book so you sound more informed at least.

so what u think about the verse?

compton11:
so what u think about the verse?

It is written in human language, is it not?

compton11:
theif?


U think he was like Jesus that stole donkey?

Show evidence that Jesus stole a donkey.
Evidence that Muhammad stole people's wives and his attempt to steal the Jewish woman cost him his life has been shown to you which you were unable to refute

Ojuntana:

Show evidence that Jesus stole a donkey.
Evidence that Muhammad stole people's wives and his attempt to steal the Jewish woman cost him his life has been shown to you which you were unable to refute

the donkey he ordered his disciples to take during Passover,did he ask permission before taking it?

Kobojunkie:
It is written in human language, is it not?

this your non-understandable statement again!

Is Jesus ACCURSED or not?

compton11:
the donkey he ordered his disciples to take during Passover,did he ask permission before taking it?

You don't ask permission for what belongs to you.

He told them if anyone asks you why you take it, tell them the Master has need of it.

He didn't take it by force or coercion.
It's obvious that the owner is well known to Jesus as one of his disciples.
Juxtapose that with Muhammad who wouldn't stop robbing innocent caravans and people going to Mecca for trade. That's a real thief there

compton11:
this your non-understandable statement again!

Is Jesus ACCURSED or not?

Again....The goal was His death, and it was achieved via crucifixion, the popular punishment for criminals at the time... why do you nitpick at that?

And do you even realize why he had to die an ACCURSED way too?

Jesus Christ was sent to redeem mankind from Death, God's judgement against Sin from the beginning- Genesis 3 vs 16 - 22 - so He didn't simply have to die, He had to do it the accursed way in order that He may redeem men from even the worst form of Death God had judged men with. And that is what He did when He rose from even that.

Kobojunkie:
Again....The goal was His death, and it was achieved via crucifixion, the popular punishment for criminals at the time... why do you nitpick at that?

And do you even realize why he had to die an ACCURSED way too?

Jesus Christ was sent to redeem mankind from Death, God's judgement against Sin from the beginning- Genesis 3 vs 16 - 22 - so He didn't simply have to die, He had to do it the accursed way in order that He may redeem men from even the worst form of Death God had judged men with. And that is what He did when He rose from even that.

that means he is ACCURSED.


Christ redeemed us from the curse of the law by becoming a curse for us, for it is written: “Cursed is everyone who is hung on a pole.”

Galatian 3:13

Ojuntana:

You don't ask permission for what belongs to you.

He told them if anyone asks you why you take it,

tell them the Master has need of it.

He didn't take it by force or coercion.
It's obvious that the owner is well known to Jesus as one of his disciples.
Juxtapose that with Muhammad who wouldn't stop robbing innocent caravans and people going to Mecca for trade. That's a real thief there

. This is still thief

even thief can say the bolded and nobody will question cos they afraid of him.

compton11:
that means he is ACCURSED.

Christ redeemed us from the curse of the law by becoming a curse for us, for it is written: “Cursed is everyone who is hung on a pole.” - Galatian 3:13

When you say "He is accursed", do you mean He was cursed for dying on a tree, or are you attempting to suggest He remains cursed even after conquering Death?

Kobojunkie:
When you say "He is accursed", do you mean He was cursed for dying on a tree, or are you attempting to suggest He remains cursed even after conquering Death?

cursed for nailed on tree and still curse till now as far as u are redeem from curse of the law

Christ redeemed yall from the curse of the law by becoming a curse for y'all.

As far as us are redeem then he is still a ACCURSED

compton11:
. This is still thief

even thief can say the bolded and nobody will question cos they afraid of him.

Really? I didn't know you guys fear thieves.
Well it's not so I'm most cultures nor in Jewish religion or Christianity.
It is the thief that fears cause if he is caught, he will pay dearly.
Even if the thief likes, he should say God asked him to steal. He will still be dealt with.
But I can understand why you will fear thieves since Muhammad himself robbed innocent caravans. It shows thieves have a moral right in Islam. Even Yahoo boys do too.

Ojuntana:

Really? I didn't know you guys fear thieves.
Well it's not so I'm most cultures nor in Jewish religion or Christianity.
It is the thief that fears cause if he is caught, he will pay dearly.
Even if the thief likes, he should say God asked him to steal. He will still be dealt with.
But I can understand why you will fear thieves since Muhammad himself robbed innocent caravans. It shows thieves have a moral right in Islam. Even Yahoo boys do too.

did Jesus ask for permission before stealing the donkey?

compton11:
cursed for nailed on tree and still curse till now as far as u are redeem from curse of the law

Christ redeemed yall from the curse of the law by becoming a curse for y'all.

As far as us are redeem then he is still a ACCURSED

God's curse on mankind ends in the grave - the curse is of Death. So, the man, Jesus Christ, was cursed and died, However, He rose from the dead, overcoming Death, and so no longer under the curse of Death.

compton11:
did Jesus ask for permission before stealing the donkey?

He did not need to ask for permission because he owns everything including heaven and earth "If anyone asks you why you take it, tell them the Master has need for it" He did not tell them to bring out a cutlass and smite the one who questions them on the neck, neither does he tell them to make a run for it. A thief runs when asked such questions, or attacks his inquirer.

On the other hand. Muhammad attacked and robbed caravans of innocent traders and travelers
He attacked Khaybar a peaceful city, killed the rulers, enslaved the women and children and then took their properties for himself
How do you justify such behavior in the light of you accusing Jesus of stealing. Muhammad's own is a fact not an accusation. So you have no moral ground to ask these questions if you can't justify Muhammad's banditry

Ojuntana:


He did not need to ask for permission because he owns everything including heaven and earth "If anyone asks you why you take it, tell them the Master has need for it" He did not tell them to bring out a cutlass and smite the one who questions them on the neck, neither does he tell them to make a run for it. A thief runs when asked such questions, or attacks his inquirer.

On the other hand. Muhammad attacked and robbed caravans of innocent traders and travelers
He attacked Khaybar a peaceful city, killed the rulers, enslaved the women and children and then took their properties for himself
How do you justify such behavior in the light of you accusing Jesus of stealing. Muhammad's own is a fact not an accusation. So you have no moral ground to ask these questions if you can't justify Muhammad's banditry

my question now turn to divinity stuff?

Nah he didn't own the donkey.


And if he actually own everything in even and earth,then how come he cursed a fig tree when he was hungry and didn't find anything there?

Kobojunkie:
God's curse on mankind ends in the grave - the curse is of Death. So, the man, Jesus Christ, was cursed and died, However, He rose from the dead, overcoming Death, and so no longer under the curse of Death.

and far as the curse has end then your redeem from curse of the law is now longer working then.

compton11:
and far as the curse has end then your redeem from curse of the law is now longer working then.

What you stated does not make sense at all.

Kobojunkie:
What you stated does not make sense at all.

and you stated doesn't make sense either,it was stated that Christ become a curse for y'all and it doesn't say the curse has stopped after his death

compton11:
and you stated doesn't make sense either,it was stated that Christ become a curse for y'all and it doesn't say the curse has stopped after his death

Well, you are right. I was trying to get you to see more than you are obviously unwilling or able to take on. So, yeah, He was cursed as a man who died on the tree so he could redeemed all others from God's curse on mankind.

Kobojunkie:
Well, you are right. I was trying to get you to see more than you are obviously unwilling or able to take on. So, yeah, He was cursed as a man who died on the tree so he could redeemed all others from God's curse on mankind.

and far as he is cursed,then you are being redeem.

compton11:
and far as he is cursed,then you are being redeem.

If that is your level of comprehension, that's fine.

Kobojunkie:
If that is your level of comprehension, that's fine.

Good!

wunmi590:


Lol, and when it begin to happen every sunday, the church begins to lose congregation...

God will help us

Yes they've lost me. Unless I decide to change my mind.

compton11:
the donkey he ordered his disciples to take during Passover,did he ask permission before taking it?

You need to learn to read these stories for your own self so you don't come off ignorant every attempt you make.

1 Jesus and his followers were coming closer to Jerusalem. They came to the towns of Bethphage and Bethany at the Mount of Olives. There Jesus sent two of his followers to do something.
2 He said to them, “Go to the town you can see there. When you enter it, you will find a young donkey that no one has ever ridden. Untie it and bring it here to me.
3 If anyone asks you why you are taking the donkey, tell them, ‘The Master needs it. He will send it back soon.’”
4 The followers went into the town. They found a young donkey tied in the street near the door of a house, and they untied it.
5 Some people were standing there and saw this. They asked, “What are you doing? Why are you untying that donkey?”
6 The followers answered the way Jesus told them, and the people let them take the donkey. - Mark 11 vs 1 - 6

compton11:
did Jesus ask for permission before stealing the donkey?

The donkey was not stolen, this since the followers were allowed to take it on the message of their master.

1 Jesus and his followers were coming closer to Jerusalem. They came to the towns of Bethphage and Bethany at the Mount of Olives. There Jesus sent two of his followers to do something.
2 He said to them, “Go to the town you can see there. When you enter it, you will find a young donkey that no one has ever ridden. Untie it and bring it here to me.
3 If anyone asks you why you are taking the donkey, tell them, ‘The Master needs it. He will send it back soon.’”
4 The followers went into the town. They found a young donkey tied in the street near the door of a house, and they untied it.
5 Some people were standing there and saw this. They asked, “What are you doing? Why are you untying that donkey?”
6 The followers answered the way Jesus told them, and the people let them take the donkey. - Mark 11 vs 1 - 6