okeysoninv:
many members of NATO are not committed to the pacts..if I were Biden will just withdraw USA from NATO. the alliance is rubbish..

You know it... even the Ukraine war na USA just dey commit resources upandan.

Holiness2100:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ub5SvDIBCAU


https://apnews.com/article/russia-ukraine-nato-zelenskyy-politics-jens-stoltenberg-54c91903690f0d56537fa40ada88d83c

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mach7:
I think you meant to say Argentina

Typo, thanks for the correction.

Mrtaye:

NATO is an alliance formed to check the hostilities, excesses and impunity of Russia in Europe

You know that countries forming alliance in order to be able to fight against other powerful countries / alliance was exactly what happened before the start of world war 1 and 2.

If Russia form an alliance with China, Iran, Brazil, India and other anti west countries, US and NATO would start crying foul.

AroleOduduwa2:



I understand what they mean. The world is waking up; Iran and Argentina have formally applied to join the Brics; additional nations will follow suit. The end of US hegemony has arrived, as empires grow and fall.

Fact

FERNANDEZISBACK:

Russia also lost to the Taliban and they were right next door...What’s your point?


They did defeat them...They tossed them out of power and kept them at bay for 20 years...It was the ANA who could not defeat them not NATO..

20 years!

zinaunreal:


What do you know about war.

Oshe! Field Marshal Zina. The only highly decorated NL war veteran

mach7:
Russia was never concerned about the EU. It isn't a military alliance.

Russia is concerned about NATO because conflict with it will lead to ruination of itself and also NATO. Ukraine joining NATO (or even intending to do so) was always a redline.

Yea I know that,what iam trying to say is that eu and nato understands and will respect these red lines because they know the impact just like they are feeling the heat now. They would have lured ukraine into eu or accepted them into nato because of their strategic importance if they weren't ready to respect the red line.

Firstcitizen:

20 years!

US is really looking for way to invade Russia but they can't because Russia is fully ready for them.A country as big as Russia can never be sidelined because of the amount of resources she has .Despite the sanctions,Russia is still standing strong.Very soon there will be uprising in the entire Europe.

FERNANDEZISBACK:

Make we help dem shame?

Drenimarcus:


Says who? Things are perfectly fine in Russia albeit the inflation and it is slowing down. Dropped down further today. Shelves are full in Russia, there is food, gas, oil. If you want proof, i can tell my Ruskies friends to send some.

We in the west are the ones suffering for this nonsense war, US officially ventured into Recession today. How about that?

Information coming out from Russia is as the same as the one being released by NBS of Nigeria. I wonder how a country where almost all international companies, suppliers and buyers of your products pulled out from you and you sit there and believe that inflation and all is going well. Thousands if not millions lost their job from the pulling out and you believe all is well. Thank God u said the west is feeling it so imagine a scenario where jobs where lost to the extent that international payment is grounded. Odikwa egwu!!

USA is a threat to the world

Mrtaye:

USA not scared but too civil to invade Russia

Too civil to attack Russia, are you trying to say the USA was barbaric by attacking Iraq with fake news?

It’s okay to defend rubbish but use sense when doing so.

Ckonnet:


Yea I know that,what iam trying to say is that eu and nato understands and will respect these red lines because they know the impact just like they are feeling the heat now. They would have lured ukraine into eu or accepted them into nato because of their strategic importance if they weren't ready to respect the red line.

I don't think they cared about Russia's red lines until Russia chose to act.

Remember the 2008 NATO Bucharest Summit, where Ukraine and Georgia were invited as members-in-waiting? That's where everything started. It now culminated in the Maidan Coup of 2014 and here we are.

Same thing is happening in the South China Sea. US never respects anybody else's interest only its own and the EU is just an appendage of the US.

Drenimarcus:
If you need 32 nations to defeat one country, then you are not strong enough. Still not a match for the Russkies.

apart from nuclear weapons which is M.A.D, Germany will destroy Russia not to talk of almighty U.S of A

Ckonnet:


Information coming out from Russia is as the same as the one being released by NBS of Nigeria. I wonder how a country where almost all international companies, suppliers and buyers of your products pulled out from you and you sit there and believe that inflation and all is going well. Thousands if not millions lost their job from the pulling out and you believe all is well. Thank God u said the west is feeling it so imagine a scenario where jobs where lost to the extent that international payment is grounded. Odikwa egwu!!

Russia that are now making cars without airbags. Just imagine. Even China is refusing to supply Russia fake parts for aeroplanes

Things are fine indeed

FERNANDEZISBACK:

Says wh0?
This is an alliance..or don't ya think?

Russia is no match to NATO..
The numbers shift a bit from source to source..but the last I checked NATO in Europe has three times Russia’s air strength and a similar advantage in ground forces...

That is just in Europe..not counting American and Canadian reinforcements...If NATO in Europe call for it the United States alone has double the number of modern strike aircraft available to Russia...
So where is ya nonsense coming from?

NATO literally said russia is the most significant and direct threat to them, you are blabbling what you don't know, Ukraine joined NATO for them to aid them defeat Russia, NATO is busy strengthening other NATO countries instead of facing the main issue, head on, are you waiting for them to say clearly, we are afraid of Russia? If it is a country like syria, they won't wait for 2 days

seanwilliam:
apart from nuclear weapons which is M.A.D, Germany will destroy Russia not to talk of almighty U.S of A

Like in 1945? The only countries capable of waging a war with the Ruskies are the US, Turkey and maybe France. Others are twig which Russia will break easily. Look at Ukraine getting decimated back to back.

Tobi890:
NATO literally said russia is the most significant and direct threat to them, you are blabbling what you don't know, Ukraine joined NATO for them to aid them defeat Russia, NATO is busy strengthening other NATO countries instead of facing the main issue, head on, are you waiting for them to say clearly, we are afraid of Russia? If it is a country like syria, they will won't waste for 2 days

Direct threat doesn't mean they are scared of poor Russia..

And boy stop the misinformation.. Ukraine ain't a member of NATO..
Ukraine wants to join Nato so that Russia will not dare to invade it...
Recent events demonstrate how valid this concern actually is...
Dumbo think with ya head..

FERNANDEZISBACK:

Says wh0?
This is an alliance..or don't ya think?

Russia is no match to NATO..
The numbers shift a bit from source to source..but the last I checked NATO in Europe has three times Russia’s air strength and a similar advantage in ground forces...

That is just in Europe..not counting American and Canadian reinforcements...If NATO in Europe call for it the United States alone has double the number of modern strike aircraft available to Russia...
So where is ya nonsense coming from? ;

Shamboic view. Do you know how much the American and the Europe had spend in terms of weapon and aid? Yet Russia is still standing strong and the America and Europe is getting weaker day by day.
WHEN LAST DID YOU CHECK THE INFLAMMATION RATE IN EUROPE AND AMERICA?

Goddson:


Bro stop the lies, Russia does not import “most” of what they use as you call it, their economy is not dependent on importation unlike the west. the few things which they import has been addressed with the introduction of parallel importation.

Please pick a history book about Russia and the west and read before you come to this forum to spread your ignorance.

Mind you I’m well traveled and I can tell you, European countries are feeling the impact of their sanctions more

If you are well travelled you won't be saying this or probably you don't understand how production or the system works. U just want to argue.
But I will educate you small.
1. Most cars being driven in russia is from the west. ( no more replacement of spare parts if the available stock dries up
2. Bulk of their passengers airlines are either Boeing or Airbus which is from the west
3. Baker Hughes, slumberger and Halliburton technologies are used by Russia for harnessing refining their oil. Those are western countries.
4.SWIFT is the world's most effective international money transfer technology. It's from the west.
5.mastercard n visa pulled out also. It's a western company. All these companies employes thousands of Russians and pay billions of tax to the Russian economy. So if you don't understand how macro economics works,you can always ask me and stop arguing blindly.i don't support any of them,iam just giving you facts.

alcuin:
And NATO is also a threat to Russia.

May I ask, what exactly is the reason for NATO in the first place?

After the red army brought down Germany.
From Stalingrad to Berlin.
The rest of Europe feared Russia and formed NATO in 1947.

Ckonnet:


Information coming out from Russia is as the same as the one being released by NBS of Nigeria. I wonder how a country where almost all international companies, suppliers and buyers of your products pulled out from you and you sit there and believe that inflation and all is going well. Thousands if not millions lost their job from the pulling out and you believe all is well. Thank God u said the west is feeling it so imagine a scenario where jobs where lost to the extent that international payment is grounded. Odikwa egwu!!

Inflation has dropped in Russia 4 times and the central bank has lowered rates 4 times. Yes countries pulled out and people lost their jobs but the Russian government has nationalized those who left. Example of these are McDonalds, the French company Renault, and some others.

Some of the companies who left are even coming back. Example is Toyota and some American companies.

Meanwhile, in the west, we officially entered recession today and the Fed is raising rates and still cannot combat inflation.

mach7:
I don't think they cared about Russia's red lines until Russia chose to act.

Remember the 2008 NATO Bucharest Summit, where Ukraine and Georgia were invited as members-in-waiting? That's where everything started. It now culminated in the Maidan Coup of 2014 and here we are.

Same thing is happening in the South China Sea. US never respects anybody else's interest only its own and the EU is just an appendage of the US.

They are just being gentlemen not scaled but politics is dirty and that's what everyone plays.

Drenimarcus:


Inflation has dropped in Russia 4 times and the central bank has lowered rates 4 times. Yes countries pulled out and people lost their jobs but the Russian government has nationalized those who left. Example of these are McDonalds, the French company Renault, and some others.

Some of the companies who left are even coming back. Example is Toyota and some American companies.

Meanwhile, in the west, we officially entered recession today and the Fed is raising rates and still cannot combat inflation.

Yea they can't make up figures in the west that's why you know but Russia is as the same as Nigerian nbs with their unrealistic figures. Imagine a country under the worst ban experienced by mankind telling you that.

mach7:
A useless club led by a bully with willing and unwilling crew members.

Despite all their rhetoric, all of them individually and collectively know that any mistake they make in attacking Russia or Russian interests will lead to a devastating conclusion to their liberal and decadent civilisations.

As to the claim on NATO Salesman of the year, Finland and Sweden have been NATO Enhanced Opportunities Partner since 2015 or so. Finland is even a member of NATO's Rapid Reaction Force and they have been doing multiple exercises since time immemorial while being actively courted to formally join NATO since 2010. So nothing changes in terms of their threats to Russia.

What simply will happen is that Russia will allocate two Nuclear missiles each for Finland and Sweden and will militarise the border/Islands surrounding Finland & Sweden. This is separate from certain economic decisions that Russia will take which will be harmful to their economies.

As for Turkey, I hope they got what they really wanted in return for acceding to Finland & Sweden joining.

Nothing spoil.

why can't Ukraine make peace with Russia?
Ukraine first applied for NATO membership before Finland and Sweden but Finland and Sweden were accepted quickly.
The west are just using Ukraine as a battle ground to fight Russia.
And Ukraine are foolish for allowing this .

jimetagambo:

Russia that are now making cars without airbags. Just imagine. Even China is refusing to supply Russia fake parts for aeroplanes

Things are fine indeed

Me iam tired of arguing with my naija peeps, they always imagine life from beer pArlour.

Drenimarcus:


Inflation has dropped in Russia 4 times and the central bank has lowered rates 4 times. Yes countries pulled out and people lost their jobs but the Russian government has nationalized those who left. Example of these are McDonalds, the French company Renault, and some others.

Some of the companies who left are even coming back. Example is Toyota and some American companies.

Meanwhile, in the west, we officially entered recession today and the Fed is raising rates and still cannot combat inflation.

I haven't seen this any where in the west?

Post a link that states that the US has now officially entered recession.

I also can't find any news of Toyota returning to russia. Post a reliable and credible link to black that claim up as well

naija4life247:
32 coward countrries scared of just one country.

cowards are deadly
France is a typical example

Drenimarcus:


WW2 you mean?

NATO is sort of a private club of not very agreeable people/countries, who had got together for the fear of the Soviet Union, and kept on against Russia. The only unity these countries have is only on the family picture.

Yes, WW2. Thanks for the correction.

My point was that when the War ended in 1945, Russia wasn't the 'Villian' of you will.
Germany was.

The same Germany is now a member of NATO.