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Are Muslims Permitted To Lie? by IslamVIRGINS(f): 9:39am On Jul 13, 2022 |
Summary Answer: From the Hadith Bukhari (52:269) - "The Prophet said, 'War is deceit.'" The context of this is thought to be the murder of Usayr ibn Zarim and his thirty unarmed men by Muhammad's men after he "guaranteed" them safe passage (see Additional Notes below). Bukhari (49:857) - "He who makes peace between the people by inventing good information or saying good things, is not a liar." Lying is permitted when the end justifies the means. Bukhari (84:64-65) - Speaking from a position of power at the time, Ali confirms that lying is permissible in order to deceive an "enemy." |
Re: Are Muslims Permitted To Lie? by Cubalabloo(m): 9:43am On Jul 13, 2022 |
Their lies are without bound. 1 Like |
Re: Are Muslims Permitted To Lie? by ANTIlSLAM(m): 9:52am On Jul 13, 2022 |
The beauty of islam is taqqiya, there lies is second to none 1 Like |
Re: Are Muslims Permitted To Lie? by RightChannel: 1:21pm On Jul 13, 2022 |
Muslims will all die if they fails to lie for allah and muhammad 1 Like |
Re: Are Muslims Permitted To Lie? by sagenaija: 3:45pm On Jul 14, 2022 |
Taqiya allows the Moslem to conceal things. In other words, not to present his true intentions. So he can have one thing in mind and say or presents different position outwardly. In simple terms the Moslem is allowed to lie. Integrity has no place in Islam. 2 Likes |
Re: Are Muslims Permitted To Lie? by IslamVIRGINS(f): 10:47pm On Apr 04 |
sagenaija: Fact! 1 Like |
Re: Are Muslims Permitted To Lie? by FxMasterz: 1:39pm On Apr 05 |
Na wa o. |
Re: Are Muslims Permitted To Lie? by ANTlSLAAM: 1:52pm On Apr 05 |
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Re: Are Muslims Permitted To Lie? by ANTlSLAAM: 1:52pm On Apr 05 |
This is seriously serious |
Re: Are Muslims Permitted To Lie? by TenQ: 2:18pm On Apr 05 |
ANTlSLAAM:Muslims have different types of Taqqiya, Lies and Misinformation. 1. There is the lies they tell themselves a. Scientific Miracles in the Quran b. Christians worship Three Gods c. Islam guarantees paradise d. The Qur'an is perfectly preserved even to the diacritical marks e. Mohammed is uneducated etc etc 2. Lies they tell uninformed Christians a. We serve the same God b. Mohammed is the last prophet c. Jesus, Moses etc are Muslims d. Everyone is born a Muslim etc etc 3. Lies Mohammed told the Muslims a. Jesus was neither crucified nor killed b. Mohammed went to heaven on Al-Burak c. The Qur'an was dictated by an angel called Jibril c. Mohammed is a messanger and a prophet of God d. Practically everything in Islam. 3 Likes |
Re: Are Muslims Permitted To Lie? by Expanse2020(m): 3:45pm On Apr 05 |
TenQ: Did this any of it to debunk 3 in 1 ☕ God April 1 Yahweh day / LGBTQ Hope Jesus is not Gay Sha🤔🫣🤔 2 Likes |
Re: Are Muslims Permitted To Lie? by TenQ: 5:23pm On Apr 05 |
I take it that you admit to these claims of Muslims lying to themselves and others! Expanse2020:I challenged you to show us how Allah the Taoheed descend every night from above the highest heaven to the lowest heaven without leaving his palace vacant! Allah is limited. This is the necessary condition of the Taoheed. Allah is as one as Iblis is one. 1 Like |
Re: Are Muslims Permitted To Lie? by advocatejare(m): 8:59pm On Apr 05 |
TenQ:You didn’t include “Muhammad is the best of mankind” Those people are real jokers. Maybe their best means worst |
Re: Are Muslims Permitted To Lie? by Antiislaam(m): 10:11pm On Apr 05 |
advocatejare: Opposite is the case, best turn worst 1 Like |
Re: Are Muslims Permitted To Lie? by Antiislaam(m): 10:13pm On Apr 05 |
Expanse2020: Muhammad was a pedophile, wife snatcher, criminal, madman, killer, child abuser, assassin, thief, just name them |
Re: Are Muslims Permitted To Lie? by Antiislaam(m): 10:14pm On Apr 05 |
TenQ: AntiChristian left the group chat |
Re: Are Muslims Permitted To Lie? by TenQ: 5:43am On Apr 06 |
Antiislaam:He's a guy that chooses his fights carefully : whenever he sees facts he cannot defend without sounding foolish, he goes on silent absent mode |
Re: Are Muslims Permitted To Lie? by TenQ: 5:47am On Apr 06 |
advocatejare:Of course, Too many lies that can't be fully enumerated as Islam is based on cascade of lies and fabrications all from the father of all lies and his able messanger who cannot do but conjure even more lies 1 Like |
Re: Are Muslims Permitted To Lie? by gaskiyamagana: 9:40am On Apr 06 |
TenQ: When I say something about : 1.You , your mentality, ignoramousity and sheer hypocrite ; 2. Your religion as founded on FICTION, FALLACY, FALSEHOOD, FABRICATION, MISREPRESENTATION AND MISINTERPRETATION of TRUE GOD and prophets, especially Isa (asw). Whoever read it will think that l am exaggerating. Alas! The above about Islam of your roboticalized being is comparison of foundation of Islam to convincing confusion of foundation of Christianity; which is NEVER SO. I am not a fool to join issues with you on your foolery about Islam, until and unless you are disable, reprogram with input of accepting TRUE information about Islam and reboot. I am not saying others discussing with you are fools, but I just wonder how they are WASTING THEIR time, reasoning and argument. |
Re: Are Muslims Permitted To Lie? by gaskiyamagana: 9:42am On Apr 06 |
TenQ:Continue to paraphrasing my accusation that Christianity is founded on FICTION, FALLACY FALSEHOOD, FABRICATION MISREPRESENTATION AND MISINTERPRETATION of TRUE GOD and prophets especially Isa (asw). |
Re: Are Muslims Permitted To Lie? by gaskiyamagana: 9:48am On Apr 06 |
TenQ:He is now reasoning with me that it is wasting of precious time, reasoning and argument with anti Islam ROBOTICAL PROGRAMED being like you. Yet, whenever he is less busy or think that it is good for you to enter hell, he will attend to you, but for me hell is not created for shaytan alone, TenQ and his friends who wanted to join him are free. |
Re: Are Muslims Permitted To Lie? by gaskiyamagana: 9:53am On Apr 06 |
Antiislaam:Yes! According to your madness as well as your bible described many prophets too. Only those who are not familiar or hypocritical about Bible account of some prophets with argue this. |
Re: Are Muslims Permitted To Lie? by gaskiyamagana: 9:56am On Apr 06 |
Expanse2020:Don't waste your time, energy and reasoning with anti Islam ROBOTICAL PROGRAMED beings. I knew them very, very well as NUISANCE TO ISLAM in Nairaland religion section. If don't believe me, try to continue and you will later realize my perfect description of them. 2 Likes |
Re: Are Muslims Permitted To Lie? by gaskiyamagana: 10:01am On Apr 06 |
sagenaija:Just as you concealed MUHAMMAD IN THE BIBLE ! |
Re: Are Muslims Permitted To Lie? by TenQ: 11:02am On Apr 06 |
gaskiyamagana:What is it called when a person is thoroughly beaten logically and factually such that he cannot win the argument but in desperation decides to focus on slandering his debater? LOL! gaskiyamagana:Unfortunately, both Mohammed and Allah thinks differently from you. When did you become more knowledgeable than Allah? Mr. Gaskiyamagana I am doing this to save your from the deception of satan who told you that Islam is the way of salvation exactly as Iblis told Adam and Eve that they wouldn't die but become like Angels if they ate from the forbidden tree. Do not die without knowing the TRUTH in Christ Jesus! If RELIGION saves, we will only have the Religion of MOSES except you can prove otherwise: but Religion doesn't save. Only God saves BUT according to His own RULES |
Re: Are Muslims Permitted To Lie? by TenQ: 11:19am On Apr 06 |
gaskiyamagana:Its so insane that those who are heavily programmed doesn't know they are programmed and are accusing others of being programmed! 1. Did Mohammed marry his daughter in-law? YES: but he is still the best example for mankind 2. Did Allah say that Allah Muslims will be in the fire of hell for at least some time? YES: but muslims will be over the fire on a bridge of sirat 3. Did Jesus dies on the cross? NO: but every historical sources and the Gospels say that Jesus died on the Cross 4. Did Allah say that the Holy Spirit is Jibril? NO: but the consensus of the scholars is that Jibril is the Holy Spirit 5. Are their errors on the Quran? YES: but muslims say that the errors are not errors 6. Was Mohammed a pedophile? YES: but Aisha despite all islamic hadiths proving that she was 8 or 9 years old, we modern muslims prefer to say that she was 18 years old girl who plays with dolls 7. Is Jesus the ONLY creator of Life aside Allah in the Quran? YES: but Jesus is still lower than Mohammed 8. Did Mohammed claim that he doesn't know if he would be in paradise or hell and it also include ALL you Muslims? YES: but we have reviewed the hadiths to say that Mohammed will be the first to be resurrected AND he will intercede for all muslims to enter paradise Tell me sir: who is the one who is programmed? |
Re: Are Muslims Permitted To Lie? by TenQ: 11:29am On Apr 06 |
gaskiyamagana:1. Is it true or untrue that even muslim babies cannot guarantee paradise in Islam? Is this a FICTION to claim that Muslim adults have worse fate than the so-called muslim baby that died? Is this a FALLACY to claim that Muslim adults have worse fate than the so-called muslim baby that died? Is this a FALSEHOOD to claim that Muslim adults have worse fate than the so-called muslim baby that died? Is this a FABRICATION to claim that Muslim adults have worse fate than the so-called muslim baby that died? Is this a MISREPRESENTATION to claim that Muslim adults have worse fate than the so-called muslim baby that died? Is this a MISINTERPRETATION to claim that Muslim adults have worse fate than the so-called muslim baby that died? 2. Is it true or untrue that Allah's throne is carried by 8 strong Angels? If every angels is limited, Is this a FICTION to claim that Allah too must be limited? Is this a FALLACY to claim that Allah too must be limited? Is this a FALSEHOOD to claim that Allah too must be limited? Is this a FABRICATION to claim that Allah too must be limited? Is this a MISREPRESENTATION to claim that Allah too must be limited? Is this a MISINTERPRETATION to claim that Allah too must be limited? Even with damning evidences, muslims have been programed to accept falsehood instead of the TRUTH! |
Re: Are Muslims Permitted To Lie? by TenQ: 11:31am On Apr 06 |
gaskiyamagana:TIll today, Muslim scholars are trying desperately to find Mohammed mentioned in the Bible! Can you tell me: Mohammed was mentioned as what in the Bible? |
Re: Are Muslims Permitted To Lie? by gaskiyamagana: 11:47am On Apr 06 |
TenQ:As l always said, being anti Islam robot, that is why you are unaware of it in the internet, tick tock, Instagram etc. |
Re: Are Muslims Permitted To Lie? by gaskiyamagana: 11:50am On Apr 06 |
TenQ:As usual and as expected, run away reply to the issue raised. Continue to ask whatever you are PROGRAMED about Islam, someone who don't know you are roboticalized against Islam with answer you, never me. |
Re: Are Muslims Permitted To Lie? by gaskiyamagana: 12:00pm On Apr 06 |
TenQ: T H R A S H ! ! ! His own rules in RELIGION or science, Mr 'Religion doesn't save ' ? I know Isa (asw) from Qur'an of no Jeremiah 8:8; more than your BIBLIE presented him to you Christians. Therefore, you possessed only roboticalized mental process to tell me otherwise. 1 Like |
Re: Are Muslims Permitted To Lie? by TenQ: 12:03pm On Apr 06 |
gaskiyamagana:The one who is programmed is the one who cannot provide proof for a question abut instead refer me to some fictitious web address through which he himself was programmed not to be able to apply reason. Please respond: Is it wrong to be AGAINST any religion of FALSEHOOD and fight it with the Truth? 1 Like |
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