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Re: Are Muslims Permitted To Lie? by TenQ: 12:07pm On Apr 06 |
gaskiyamagana:Does Allah know of any prophet called Jeremiah? What is the name of his Book? It seems Jeremiah 8:8 applies perfectly to Mohammed with respect to the God of Jeremiah! What is your evidence that Mohammed got his revelation from the same God of Moses? |
Re: Are Muslims Permitted To Lie? by TenQ: 12:18pm On Apr 06 |
gaskiyamagana:You raised no issue: you only stated an accusation of Fiction, Fallacy, Falsehood, Fabrication, Misrepresentation and Misinterpretation against me! To these accusation, I have responded with just two samples for verification to check if if you are correct or not. Again: 1. Is it true or untrue that even muslim babies cannot guarantee paradise in Islam? Is this a FICTION to claim that Muslim adults have worse fate than the so-called muslim baby that died? Is this a FALLACY to claim that Muslim adults have worse fate than the so-called muslim baby that died? Is this a FALSEHOOD to claim that Muslim adults have worse fate than the so-called muslim baby that died? Is this a FABRICATION to claim that Muslim adults have worse fate than the so-called muslim baby that died? Is this a MISREPRESENTATION to claim that Muslim adults have worse fate than the so-called muslim baby that died? Is this a MISINTERPRETATION to claim that Muslim adults have worse fate than the so-called muslim baby that died? 2. Is it true or untrue that Allah's throne is carried by 8 strong Angels? If every angels is limited, Is this a FICTION to claim that Allah too must be limited? Is this a FALLACY to claim that Allah too must be limited? Is this a FALSEHOOD to claim that Allah too must be limited? Is this a FABRICATION to claim that Allah too must be limited? Is this a MISREPRESENTATION to claim that Allah too must be limited? Is this a MISINTERPRETATION to claim that Allah too must be limited? Even with damning evidences, muslims have been programed to accept falsehood instead of the TRUTH! |
Re: Are Muslims Permitted To Lie? by Expanse2020(m): 2:12pm On Apr 06 |
Antiislaam:According to the bible Paedophiler like Jacob, saint Joseph and many more in the bible Wife snatcher like David and Solomon Criminal like Moses, Solomon and other in the bible Madman like the drunkard prophet in the bible Killer like David, Solomon, Moses, even Jesus is also a killer Child abuser like Moses, Jacob, saint Joseph and others Thief like God or Jesus, even in bible Jesus said you could thief.. Assassin's like David in the bible I was wondering why everything in the bible you named here was found in the bible 2 Likes |
Re: Are Muslims Permitted To Lie? by Expanse2020(m): 2:13pm On Apr 06 |
TenQ: Is it true that Satan is the God of this world? |
Re: Are Muslims Permitted To Lie? by gaskiyamagana: 3:26pm On Apr 06 |
TenQ:Verification from another religion is answer to accusation against your religion? You are diagnosed of headache, but you ask the doctor to use the treatment on himself so that you will know how effective the treatment is? |
Re: Are Muslims Permitted To Lie? by gaskiyamagana: 3:30pm On Apr 06 |
Expanse2020:Plus together combine with: Incest Mass kidnapping of women for marriage Onanism E T C. |
Re: Are Muslims Permitted To Lie? by gaskiyamagana: 3:33pm On Apr 06 |
TenQ:Jargon, jargons you wrote here related to the content of Jeremiah 8 : 8 ? I know you, each and every time confronted with truth, one wire in your ROBOTICAL body always spark and cause malfunction. |
Re: Are Muslims Permitted To Lie? by Dsimmer: 4:36pm On Apr 06 |
Expanse2020: Ode, the age of most of these people (both men and women) weren't specified in the Bible. Moses married ziporrah who went to fetch water. A little child wouldn't be allowed to go fetch water to begin. What kind of useless brain do you have? Jacob's wives weren't children to begin with. It was stated that Leah had to be married to Jacob because she was older than her sister who was of good age. So Leah and Rachel were of good age. Mary (married to Joseph whose age wasn't specified) was a worker (cleaner) at the synagogue. No little child would be saddled with such responsibility. Sink that into your dumb head. And don't forget to note into your brain that Elizabeth called Mary a woman. More so, Jesus always emphasized on the littleness of children different from adult. As for David, of course he committed a grave sin by not only stealing someone else's wife but killing the man. But the difference was he acknowledged that he sinned and severally begged for forgiveness. Even at that, he suffered for his sin before he was forgiven after he had severally begged. Point was he acknowledged that he sinned and didn't believe he was right to have done that particular grave actπ. That can't be said for the lunatic useless Mohammad who didn't even acknowledged that he committed a grave sin by his criminal acts, Peadophila acts and all sorts of nonsense. No wonder the unintelligent fool drank camel urine like a lunatic. Meanwhile, Solomon did nothing wrong because he didn't steal anyone's wife nor heritage nor was a Peadophile. The only thing was he acquired so many wives which were all consensual. God had no problem with Solomon because Solomon was intelligent like his father, David and also, Solomon did nothing wrong because the women which Solomon acquired were all consensual acts from the women even though he didn't support Solomon's waton lust for thousands of women which later destroyed Solomon's kingdom. Lastly, Most of these people weren't called prophets in the Bible. It was the lunatic criminal paedophilic Mohammad who called them prophet. Jacob, David (albeit David was a divine singer), Solomon, Joseph (Mary's husband) etc weren't called prophets in the Bible. It was the lunatic criminal paedophilic Mohammad who did. |
Re: Are Muslims Permitted To Lie? by TenQ: 4:36pm On Apr 06 |
gaskiyamagana:Instead of answering the simple question, you are behaving like a low-budget dummy robot Does Allah know of any prophet called Jeremiah? What is the name of his Book? It seems Jeremiah 8:8 applies perfectly to Mohammed with respect to the God of Jeremiah! What is your evidence that Mohammed got his revelation from the same God of Moses? |
Re: Are Muslims Permitted To Lie? by TenQ: 4:38pm On Apr 06 |
gaskiyamagana:It seems you don't know me: when do you see me give you proofs from the bible except it was specifically asked by you muslims? I ask for verification from your own Islamic sources! |
Re: Are Muslims Permitted To Lie? by TenQ: 4:58pm On Apr 06 |
Why dont you first answer my Questions first? I challenged you to show us how Allah the Taoheed descend every night from above the highest heaven to the lowest heaven without leaving his palace vacant! Allah is limited. This is the necessary condition of the Taoheed. Allah is as one as Iblis is one. Expanse2020:Satan is NOT God but he is "the god of this world"! This is why the world is full of sin, selfishness and pain. This is why God will one day end this world and lock up satan in Hell. Indeed, satan is the god of this world 2Cor 4:4 In their case the god of this world has blinded the minds of the unbelievers, to keep them from seeing the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God. Just fit Allah into the highlighted in red: Allah and his Mohammed has blinded your eyes so that you will not see the light of the gospel Other scriptures Jesus said: John 12:31 Now judgment is upon this world; now the ruler of this world will be cast out. John 14:30 I will not speak much more with you, for the ruler of the world is coming, and he has nothing in Me; This is amazing as Allah takes up the same title as satan Quran 7:54 Surely, your Lord is Allah who created the heavens and the earth in six days, then He positioned himself on the Throne. He covers the day with the night that pursues it swiftly. (He created) the sun and the moon and the stars, subjugated to His command. Lo! To Him alone belong the creation and the command. Glorious is Allah, the Lord of all the worlds. Quran 56:80 ΛΉIt isΛΊ a revelation from the Lord of all worlds. Is Allah satan in disguise? |
Re: Are Muslims Permitted To Lie? by gaskiyamagana: 5:55pm On Apr 06 |
TenQ:To prove that Christianity is founded on FICTION, FALLACY , FALSEHOOD, FABRICATION MISREPRESENTATION AND MISINTERPRETATION of TRUE GOD and prophets especially Isa ( asw) ? Wait for that from me till second coming of your Jesus. |
Re: Are Muslims Permitted To Lie? by gaskiyamagana: 5:58pm On Apr 06 |
TenQ:Jeremiah 8: 8 was in the Quran that is why it is about Qur'an, your ROBOTICAL makers need to give you routine service and maintenance. |
Re: Are Muslims Permitted To Lie? by Expanse2020(m): 6:14pm On Apr 06 |
TenQ: So Satan is the lord of this world but I taught your God also said he created the earth and everything in 6days and rest in seven day... But satan hijack it from your God and take control of the world... So when Jesus come to proof he his god na so Satan order his crucifixion to show he his the God of the world ... It has cleared to me now that[b] your God didn't created this world nor not the owner of this world [/b] based on evidence you showed me from the bible.. thanks for the info... But why did Jesus or God they claimed them created an rule this world when they are not the one controlling the world π€ |
Re: Are Muslims Permitted To Lie? by Expanse2020(m): 6:30pm On Apr 06 |
Dsimmer:So David was not a prophet Solomon was not a prophet Moses was not a prophet in the bible wright πππ And have search or make research on enclopieadia, Wikipedia to study more about each character in the bible especially mother of Jesus and here what the historian said about her age at the age she mearly consumate to Joseph not even marry to him Γ³Γ² Chai xtianity is in the darkness |
Re: Are Muslims Permitted To Lie? by Dsimmer: 6:31pm On Apr 06 |
Expanse2020: Only Moses was a prophet. David and Solomon were intelligent but were no prophets, albeit David was a divine singer. |
Re: Are Muslims Permitted To Lie? by Expanse2020(m): 6:33pm On Apr 06 |
Dsimmer:But If I showed you David was a prophet in the bible nkα» likewise Solomon |
Re: Are Muslims Permitted To Lie? by Dsimmer: 6:37pm On Apr 06 |
Expanse2020: Show it. David always had a prophet with him. David had divine talent with his intelligence, parables, strength, songs but he wasn't a prophet because there was a prophet with him. Likewise Solomon. |
Re: Are Muslims Permitted To Lie? by TenQ: 6:41pm On Apr 06 |
gaskiyamagana:I knoiw that you would never have a proof for anything, thus I have to wait till Judgement day. No problem: However, whatever you do, get born again else, you are already deceived and on your way to hell. The same way satan deceived Adam and Eve by telling them that they would not die but become like Angels (according to Islam), the same way satan is deceiving you that there is another way of salvation outside Jesus Christ. Of course, I cannot be guilty of you because I have shown you The Way , The Truth and The Life Jesus said: John 3:3 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God. But the Deceiver said: No! He said that you should focus on doing a religion called Islam and all will be well. You and I know that even Sinless Babies in Islam are not guaranteed Paradise: how much more you an adult |
Re: Are Muslims Permitted To Lie? by TenQ: 6:44pm On Apr 06 |
gaskiyamagana:Is their any prophet called Jeremiah in the Quran? I know of none! My Question was simple! Does Allah know of any prophet called Jeremiah? What is the name of his Book? It seems Jeremiah 8:8 applies perfectly to Mohammed with respect to the God of Jeremiah! What is your evidence that Mohammed got his revelation from the same God of Moses? Simple questions and you get tongue tied. |
Re: Are Muslims Permitted To Lie? by Expanse2020(m): 6:46pm On Apr 06 |
Dsimmer:So who is the prophet with him Mumu man NLT 30 But he was a prophet, and he knew God had promised with an oath that one of Davidβs own descendants would sit on his throne. ππππππππ Read your bible and stop poking nose to want you don't know |
Re: Are Muslims Permitted To Lie? by TenQ: 6:48pm On Apr 06 |
Expanse2020:I have at least shown you that Allah and Iblis is essentially the same person: the god of this world! Adam and Eve lost control of the Earth to satan ( I know that this isn't what Iblis taught you)! Jesus clearly called satan the prince of this world! This is enough for you to think! |
Re: Are Muslims Permitted To Lie? by Expanse2020(m): 6:56pm On Apr 06 |
TenQ:Is there no different between prince of this world and god of the world ππππππ Abi you don't understand English again niii ππππππ Chaii |
Re: Are Muslims Permitted To Lie? by Dsimmer: 6:56pm On Apr 06 |
Expanse2020: You didn't know it was a prophet who came to deliver God's message to David after what he did to Uriah? |
Re: Are Muslims Permitted To Lie? by TenQ: 7:00pm On Apr 06 |
Expanse2020:Why then does Allah call himself Lord instead of God |
Re: Are Muslims Permitted To Lie? by Expanse2020(m): 7:26pm On Apr 06 |
TenQ:not ordinary lord Lord of the universe..... King of all kings Did you understand the meaning now But your own God struggle with Satan over who is the god of the world πππππππππ It's ridiculous man |
Re: Are Muslims Permitted To Lie? by Dsimmer: 7:33pm On Apr 06 |
Expanse2020: It says the god of this world. It was in small letter..I know you've destroyed your brain with camel urine like the lunatic criminal Mohammed but try to act like a sane person at least. There were several gods mentioned in the bible. The golden calf idol for example. Meanwhile, allah was got from allat, the idol stone. Mohammed was angry because it was a female π, thus changed it into a man but still with the idol stone π |
Re: Are Muslims Permitted To Lie? by TenQ: 8:10pm On Apr 06 |
Expanse2020:Aka satan, the god and prince of this world! Since you admit that Allah is the Lord of this world, can you explain why Sin, EVIL and PAIN is the order of the day in Allahs kingdom? |
Re: Are Muslims Permitted To Lie? by AbuTwins: 8:32pm On Apr 06 |
TenQ: Abeg how is Satan who is god (theos) of this world same as Allah who is the LORD (YAHWEH) of ALL the worlds (plural)? Anyways, Una get eyes no insight! Your Holy spirit na cruise devil! You guys are hypocrites and liars! Let me tell you why. In John 1:1...."the logos was with theos" was translated as 'the word was with (Capital) God! Now in 2 Corinthians 4:4, Satan is the theos of this world is translated as Satan is the god of this world! When theos is used for Jesus it is capital God! When it is used for Satan then it is small god! Why not equate Jesus to Satan since Satan and Jesus are both theos from John 1:1 and 2 Corinthians 4:4. Alhamdulillah, I no dey too engage all of Una! Hypocrisy is an untreatable heart disease! Gakiyamagana and expanse2020 I hail Una o! 1 Like |
Re: Are Muslims Permitted To Lie? by TenQ: 8:46pm On Apr 06 |
AbuTwins:Can you find me a single place where the God of Israel described Himself as the God of this world? Is it untrue that Jesus who came from heaven called satan the ruler of this world? How then is Allah different from Iblis? Here is 2Cor 4:3-4, theos mean Deity . A Deity can be God the Creator or even an idol. This is why God/god, Eloha, Allah, Elohim is just a TITLE while Yahweh is the NAME! Is the Allah of the northern Nigerian idol worshippers you God? 2βCor 4:3-4: "If our gospel is veiled, it is veiled to those who are perishing, those unbelievers whose minds have been blinded by the god of this world to prevent them from seeing the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God." This scripture is well fitting for Allah because he is the one who veiled your eyes and blinded your mind against the Gospel of Christ so that you will be lost to Hell fire. Do you believe the Gospel of Christ for your salvation? |
Re: Are Muslims Permitted To Lie? by Expanse2020(m): 9:13pm On Apr 06 |
TenQ:Allah is the lord of All universe not only this world....you can twist yourself the wet u like is your problem.... Is Jesus the lord of this world Is Yahweh the lord of this world Did Jesus/Yahweh created this world or Satan created this world |
Re: Are Muslims Permitted To Lie? by Expanse2020(m): 9:22pm On Apr 06 |
TenQ:π€£π€£π€£ππππππππ€£ Jesus came from heaven abeg which plane, Abi jet or space craft carry am come earth God of Israel is not God of this world but gave different ruling,laws to them based on how they should leave and constantly warn them of Satanπ€£π€£π€£π€£π€£π€£π€£π€£π€£π€£π€£π€£π€£π€£ But you forgot in the bible that God of Israel said he created this world and every in it in genesisπ€£π€£π€£ππππ |
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