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Re: Atiku Vs. Obi: How Each Of Them Intend To Fix Nigeria's Power Problem by pacespot(m): 11:26am On Jul 26, 2022
Atiku might sound practical because he was once the vice president of Nigeria but if his solution to power problem is as straightforward as he said then why has the current government not gone for that? Atiku also made reference to power transmission capacity which he said has never met up with generation and which is causing collapse in the system. According to him, if you generated enough power that you cannot transmit, then the whole system will collapse. Obi might sound out of touch with Nigerian reality but he is the only one offering practical examples of other countries doing great jobs in solving the power problem in a specific timeframe that Nigerians can really relate with in terms of expected results given the presidency term period in the country. For instance, he said Egypt was able to generate about 30,000 megawatts in 5 years but he promised to do half of that for Nigeria in his first term. I don't think any of that sound like a political rhetoric.
Re: Atiku Vs. Obi: How Each Of Them Intend To Fix Nigeria's Power Problem by GerogeI(m): 11:28am On Jul 26, 2022
ochejoseph:
Atiku vs. Obi: How Each Of Them Intend to Fix Nigeria's Power Problem

During his Arise Interview, Nigeria's former Vice President and Presidential Candidate of the PDP was asked a simple question on how he intend to fix Nigeria's power problems.

He was practical in his response which centered around decentralizing generation and transmission which he intends to achieve by:

1. Fixing turbines on the Dams that are idling away in the Northern states of Nigeria and embracing solar energy.

2.Using the massive deposits of coal in Enugu to power the deficits in the South East since we are still a developing country.

3. Using the existing gas reserves in the South South to power existing gas powered stations across Nigeria



Peter Obi his former running mate and ex governor of Anambra now presidential candidate of Labour Party was asked thesame simple question on what his plans for fixing our power problems are, he wasted 4 mins saying virtually nothing:

He referred us to go and read what the leader of Singapore and the ruler of Dubai said about what people are doing right.

His knowledge of our current problems and potentials that can be quickly transformed to fix the problem was very poor.

His response to the problem of lingering ASUU strike was equally poor. Instead of answering the question the man went off point talking about out of school children providing statistics that were already out dated.

Dont take my word for it here are the videos, watch it and make your own judgement.

Source 1: https://twitter.com/emmaikumeh/status/1551214135253270531?t=-BmHvUgADhUGkm_mh2Wk_Q&s=19


Source 2: https://twitter.com/channelstv/status/1551641001885945861?t=pgUE1Bx3_Ab9A7MO9KxExA&s=19

Source 3:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ITsv3vtrfh8

May God Help Us to Help Ourselves in 2023


OP you are the one with the poor understanding of the power problem in Nigeria. Leave the technical gibberish that Atiku dished out, it does not even address the problem, and mean while Atiku is part of the problem, having stakes in the Yola Disco company. The Disco's were expected to invest in power dustribution. Uptill now the FG is still funding prepaid meters. And Discos loose more than 40% of power wheeled to their network.

We currently have more than 50% unutilized power generation capacity all located in the South South used natural gas. Most of them are not utilized because the national grid cannot carry more than yhe 8000MW currently being wheeled from one part of the country to another. The others gas turbines are not being utilized because they are not connected by gas pipelines. Especially those initiated by Obasanjo with Atiku as his vice.
Gas piping and national grid expansion are very costly ventures that will eat beyobd national budget.

The alternative is what Obi is telling you about. Decentralize the Grid into Sub grids and generate power within each sub grid. Eliminate the power wheeling that is very costly.

So As the grip is now, it is rated for 8000MW. If you split it into Six regional grids, each one will still be rated for 8000MW. If you can proceed to build power plants in each regional grid, except South South, which alread has more than enough. Then our consumption capacity will jump from 8000MW, to 8000MW x6 =48,000 MW.

The struggle is then how to build power plants in each grid. In the north you can focus on hydro and solar power plants, in the South West, gas turbines will be cheapest in the South East Coal will be cheapest, even though gas turbines will work too but only in Anambra, Imo, Abia and Delta.


Do not say people are answering poorly when you lack the background to fully understand what they are saying, rather you should ask questions.

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Re: Atiku Vs. Obi: How Each Of Them Intend To Fix Nigeria's Power Problem by Nobody: 11:28am On Jul 26, 2022
MacWin155:
Atiku appeals to the mind of those who are unknowledgeable in how these things work.

Do you think the things he promises he will do?

Why haven't the present goverment done it, if it was so feasible?

He is giving you local solutions to a national problem and you wholly accept it as what is the standard. Solutions that have always been what Nigerians think will be the solution.

But Peter Obi took a voyage to seek knowledge outside on how to address the issue and if you listen intently to his words, he has the solution. He didn't go for fun. He went to study.

But you're too biased, blind, and ignorant to truth.

I'll accept criticisms if I'm wrong.

May God help us Nigerians. May we not be out own enemy.
what's the solution?
Re: Atiku Vs. Obi: How Each Of Them Intend To Fix Nigeria's Power Problem by richiemcgold: 11:32am On Jul 26, 2022
LordOfTheGame:


Just like the way you identified buhari and his bogus and realistic ideas that never happened rather he gave you disappointments and bloodletting, ethnic supremacy and officialise corruption. My guy you better vote for Peter Obi because I don't trust your mind.

maybe you were too blind to read where I wrote 'realistic and clearcut plan' in the comment you quoted. Yes bubu truly promised to fix security, economy & unemployment (and even turn 1$ to 1naira), but those were mere talks; there was never a time he gave any realistic and clearcut idea on how he intended to do so. I don't fall for such deceptive campaigns, never!
Re: Atiku Vs. Obi: How Each Of Them Intend To Fix Nigeria's Power Problem by Jomonix: 11:38am On Jul 26, 2022
The way Atiku spoke about 90% northerners who are not on internet makes me to be very concerned. For him it is a positive development that can work in his favor. Hence that 90% may not be discerning or concerned about the quality of the candidates. On the contrary Obi referred to same as a problem to be solved.
Re: Atiku Vs. Obi: How Each Of Them Intend To Fix Nigeria's Power Problem by zionstaar75: 11:42am On Jul 26, 2022
ochejoseph:
Atiku vs. Obi: How Each Of Them Intend to Fix Nigeria's Power Problem

During his Arise Interview, Nigeria's former Vice President and Presidential Candidate of the PDP was asked a simple question on how he intend to fix Nigeria's power problems.

He was practical in his response which centered around decentralizing generation and transmission which he intends to achieve by:

1. Fixing turbines on the Dams that are idling away in the Northern states of Nigeria and embracing solar energy.

2.Using the massive deposits of coal in Enugu to power the deficits in the South East since we are still a developing country.

3. Using the existing gas reserves in the South South to power existing gas powered stations across Nigeria



Peter Obi his former running mate and ex governor of Anambra now presidential candidate of Labour Party was asked thesame simple question on what his plans for fixing our power problems are, he wasted 4 mins saying virtually nothing:

He referred us to go and read what the leader of Singapore and the ruler of Dubai said about what people are doing right.

His knowledge of our current problems and potentials that can be quickly transformed to fix the problem was very poor.

His response to the problem of lingering ASUU strike was equally poor. Instead of answering the question the man went off point talking about out of school children providing statistics that were already out dated.

Dont take my word for it here are the videos, watch it and make your own judgement.

Source 1: https://twitter.com/emmaikumeh/status/1551214135253270531?t=-BmHvUgADhUGkm_mh2Wk_Q&s=19


Source 2: https://twitter.com/channelstv/status/1551641001885945861?t=pgUE1Bx3_Ab9A7MO9KxExA&s=19

Source 3:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ITsv3vtrfh8

May God Help Us to Help Ourselves in 2023
God forbid that atiku will rule Nigeria,that will be the end of Nigeria. The fulani agenda will be completed under him

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Re: Atiku Vs. Obi: How Each Of Them Intend To Fix Nigeria's Power Problem by Maximar: 11:42am On Jul 26, 2022
Atiku is talking about electricity generation with coal that the world has agreed to phase out because of climate change.
If an aspiring leader of a nation doesn't know that, he shouldn't be contesting in the first place
Re: Atiku Vs. Obi: How Each Of Them Intend To Fix Nigeria's Power Problem by plaindealer: 11:43am On Jul 26, 2022
pacespot:
Atiku might sound practical because he was once the vice president of Nigeria but if his solution to power problem is as straightforward as he said then why has the current government not gone for that? Atiku also made reference to power transmission capacity which he said has never met up with generation and which is causing collapse in the system. According to him, if you generated enough power that you cannot transmit, then the whole system will collapse. Obi might sound out of touch with Nigerian reality but he is the only one offering practical examples of other countries doing great jobs in solving the power problem in a specific timeframe that Nigerians can really relate with in terms of expected results given the presidency term period in the country. For instance, he said Egypt was able to generate about 30,000 megawatts in 5 years but he promised to do half of that for Nigeria in his first term. I don't think any of that sound like a political rhetoric.


Atiku is fooling himself and his fans, not Nigeria.

He fooled and looted is once, but not again.

He privatized electricity and sold our power assets to his cronies so exactly what is he talking about.

Our deal with Siemens is complete overhaul from generation to transmission, dub stations, software and power management..

Transmission is part of or deal with Siemens.

Atiku and Pandora are empty head olodo..

Re: Atiku Vs. Obi: How Each Of Them Intend To Fix Nigeria's Power Problem by annisy(f): 11:43am On Jul 26, 2022
Just thesame way buhari has delegated security to people he can trust right and we are all suffering from it right?
KikBuhari2Daura:
Obi is a good man but unfortunately he lacks the experience. Governance at National level goes beyond telling stories.

I find his story about buying fuel for his convoy as a Governor very repulsive, as a leader you must delegate you must have people you can trust to help you deliver, no man is an island.
Re: Atiku Vs. Obi: How Each Of Them Intend To Fix Nigeria's Power Problem by ChristineC: 11:46am On Jul 26, 2022
plaindealer:


Construction started just a few months ago, but according to you, it failed already?

You people are embarrassingly ignorant, you won't even study the subject matter before opening your mouth and embarrassing yourselves.
you keep digging a hole for yourself. typing much grammar is obviously making you think you are making sense.
the same government that told us this is not rocket science? the same man that made the statement has been handed the portfolio for how many years now?
construction just started "a few months ago" indeed. keep working hard, man must wack ei.. I know it's not an easy job defending mediocrities.
Re: Atiku Vs. Obi: How Each Of Them Intend To Fix Nigeria's Power Problem by Realist12: 11:52am On Jul 26, 2022
KikBuhari2Daura:
Obi is a good man but unfortunately he lacks the experience. Governance at National level goes beyond telling stories.

I find his story about buying fuel for his convoy as a Governor very repulsive, as a leader you must delegate you must have people you can trust to help you deliver, no man is an island.
I've said that before, he's proudly stating he's not a team player. Yet his followers think the president job is where you can decide on your own . He'd get impeached in his tenure just like he was impeached at the states level.
Re: Atiku Vs. Obi: How Each Of Them Intend To Fix Nigeria's Power Problem by Obainomilano: 11:55am On Jul 26, 2022
If peter obi is not good then why are you all losing sleep over the man...he is not even the candidate of the ruling party ...but am not surprised... leave our peter obi for us ..and vote your atiku
Re: Atiku Vs. Obi: How Each Of Them Intend To Fix Nigeria's Power Problem by Bmaster(m): 11:58am On Jul 26, 2022
Chiboy419:
All this your nonsense write up can't stop us the sense able youths of Nigeria from voting obi next year
When he was vp for 8 years he was busy stealing Nigerians money forgetting to advice his boss
Na now solution come dey his head ba....
Our mumu don do


Is obi or nothing
Chi boy may ur days be long,serious I like you.
U definitely projected the right response,and tactically dish it back to op at from the right position,your loved,no homo...no lies
Re: Atiku Vs. Obi: How Each Of Them Intend To Fix Nigeria's Power Problem by rollywise(m): 11:59am On Jul 26, 2022
Posts like these makes me really believe Nigerians deserve another 8 years of hardship. Maybe then they'll learn to know what's good for them. Obi has nothing to prove to anyone. When he wrote his name in gold as governor, he didn't do it with today in sight, so he wasn't pretending. It is who he is. Well he has said we shouldn't reply posts like these that tend to demean his person so I leave you to your post
Re: Atiku Vs. Obi: How Each Of Them Intend To Fix Nigeria's Power Problem by Krismas(m): 12:00pm On Jul 26, 2022
ochejoseph:
Atiku vs. Obi: How Each Of Them Intend to Fix Nigeria's Power Problem

During his Arise Interview, Nigeria's former Vice President and Presidential Candidate of the PDP was asked a simple question on how he intend to fix Nigeria's power problems.

He was practical in his response which centered around decentralizing generation and transmission which he intends to achieve by:

1. Fixing turbines on the Dams that are idling away in the Northern states of Nigeria and embracing solar energy.

2.Using the massive deposits of coal in Enugu to power the deficits in the South East since we are still a developing country.

3. Using the existing gas reserves in the South South to power existing gas powered stations across Nigeria



Peter Obi his former running mate and ex governor of Anambra now presidential candidate of Labour Party was asked thesame simple question on what his plans for fixing our power problems are, he wasted 4 mins saying virtually nothing:

He referred us to go and read what the leader of Singapore and the ruler of Dubai said about what people are doing right.

His knowledge of our current problems and potentials that can be quickly transformed to fix the problem was very poor.

His response to the problem of lingering ASUU strike was equally poor. Instead of answering the question the man went off point talking about out of school children providing statistics that were already out dated.

Dont take my word for it here are the videos, watch it and make your own judgement.

Source 1: https://twitter.com/emmaikumeh/status/1551214135253270531?t=-BmHvUgADhUGkm_mh2Wk_Q&s=19


Source 2: https://twitter.com/channelstv/status/1551641001885945861?t=pgUE1Bx3_Ab9A7MO9KxExA&s=19

Source 3:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ITsv3vtrfh8

May God Help Us to Help Ourselves in 2023
grin All this Atiku bots on Nairaland grin Wen I criticized his Arise interview on one of the post, they deleted my comment and suspended my account for 24hrs grin
But here u are again! Comparing the LACKLUSTER INTERVIEW with Obi’s PANDORA SOLUTIONS? grin
Well, solution 1. Is pure scam. He knows very well Kainji dam’s turbines will not be replaced. The dam have never functioned to maximum from day one cause the turbines from inception were incomplete.
Soution 2 is not going to happen grin Don let dem fool u
Solution 3 grin That is wot is currently in use grin Which has brought more darkness to the nation more than light grin
None of these, including solar, address the fundamental reason why the nation has never cease to abide in blackouts.
Re: Atiku Vs. Obi: How Each Of Them Intend To Fix Nigeria's Power Problem by frog12: 12:02pm On Jul 26, 2022
Atiku answer during the interview shows incompetence. he said evacuation problems because the distribution lines were not upgraded. Can you believe it? You spend 16 billion dollars on power and you did not at least make it work properly. what of that foolish nass member that stole part of the money?
Re: Atiku Vs. Obi: How Each Of Them Intend To Fix Nigeria's Power Problem by 4TZME(m): 12:03pm On Jul 26, 2022
Check your family, Lies is the reason you all are miserable and it will keep tormenting you till death
Re: Atiku Vs. Obi: How Each Of Them Intend To Fix Nigeria's Power Problem by mycar: 12:04pm On Jul 26, 2022
plaindealer:


Siemens and Nigeria signed contract in 2019, construction started this year so where did you get it's not working from?

Make you Pandora people read and go school you no gree. Sad
They signed contract in 2019, construction started this year, and how far has the construction been and by the way, how would you know that they are getting it right if you don't even know the right thing?
That has been our problem, when you give someone work to do, you don't care to know if the person is doing the right or not until everybody gets tired and forget about it. all the policies, contracts and pronouncements made by your wicked people have all gone to train. You and your wicked government came up with sim and bvn registration to tackle insecurity and now even your president is under danger of been kidnapped.
and I know that if peter had gone elsewhere to study how it would be implemented successful, your type would have insulted hell out of him.
Just be careful of what you are wishing for out of tribal sentiment might provide you all more than you bargained for.
Re: Atiku Vs. Obi: How Each Of Them Intend To Fix Nigeria's Power Problem by frog12: 12:04pm On Jul 26, 2022
obi is better. he went to egypt to study the problems. atiku was in charge of power problems for 8 years and you still want him to solve power problems ?
Re: Atiku Vs. Obi: How Each Of Them Intend To Fix Nigeria's Power Problem by Sixfiguresmart(m): 12:07pm On Jul 26, 2022
KikBuhari2Daura:
Obi is a good man but unfortunately he lacks the experience. Governance at National level goes beyond telling stories.

I find his story about buying fuel for his convoy as a Governor very repulsive, as a leader you must delegate you must have people you can trust to help you deliver, no man is an island.
Atiku has all the knowledge needed but listen to his boss tell you that he is a liar. Who do you prefer, a sweet talker or a man with the will. A man with the will only needs a chance. A con man knows every route to success but will never take one, but play you.

As far as I am concerned, the problem with Nigeria is not about who knows what. It is actually the powers that be. The godfatherism and the slew of loyalists that one must feed to sustain power.

Atiku is the biggest importer of generators to Nigeria. How can such a man provide stable power for you? Atiku has a long list of loyalists and support blocks. Atiku knows it all but spent 8 years as a 2nd most powerful man in the country without hinting or making a move on it. What really can these old men do? Nothing but the same ole.

I just need a fresh face and one that is not powered by the josses.
Re: Atiku Vs. Obi: How Each Of Them Intend To Fix Nigeria's Power Problem by Nobody: 12:07pm On Jul 26, 2022
You have knowingly stirred the hornet's nest! They're going to eat you raw. You know them now, or don't you? They brook no opposition, whether to their opinions and conclusions or their preferred choices and things that have to do with their messiah. I advise that you recite Psalm 121, 1-end before you sleep and when you wake up.
Re: Atiku Vs. Obi: How Each Of Them Intend To Fix Nigeria's Power Problem by plaindealer: 12:08pm On Jul 26, 2022
ChristineC:
you keep digging a hole for yourself. typing much grammar is obviously making you think you are making sense.
the same government that told us this is not rocket science? the same man that made the statement has been handed the portfolio for how many years now?
construction just started "a few months ago" indeed. keep working hard, man must wack ei.. I know it's not an easy job defending mediocrities.

What's your hateful and bitter anti Nigerian rubbish got to do with the Siemens deal?

When ignorant people run out of sensible things to say, they start talking about irrelevant and meaningless rubbish.

It not by force to comment.

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Re: Atiku Vs. Obi: How Each Of Them Intend To Fix Nigeria's Power Problem by teepain: 12:13pm On Jul 26, 2022
richiemcgold:
As for me, I won't make up my mind yet on who should have my vote until I identify the candidate with the most realistic and clearcut plan to fix 3 things - - electricity, economy and restructuring.

This is where I currently stand too. I will like to know how each of the candidate plans to fix the 3 things you listed (power, economy and restructuring) as well as insecurity which you didn't mention.

Further to, I will scrutinize what each of the candidate had done in the past to address the 4 key areas I mentioned.

Based on this, I will make up my mind on who to vote. I am not persuaded by the ethnic or religious arguments that have pervaded our political landscape at the moment.
Re: Atiku Vs. Obi: How Each Of Them Intend To Fix Nigeria's Power Problem by simplesearch: 12:15pm On Jul 26, 2022
The truth of the matter is, Atiku will do nothing about electricity; it will be same old song without end.
Re: Atiku Vs. Obi: How Each Of Them Intend To Fix Nigeria's Power Problem by richiemcgold: 12:20pm On Jul 26, 2022
teepain:


This is where I currently stand too. I will like to know how each of the candidate plans to fix the 3 things you listed (power, economy and restructuring) as well as insecurity which you didn't mention.

Further to, I will scrutinize what each of the candidate had done in the past to address the 4 key areas I mentioned.

Based on this, I will make up my mind on who to vote. I am not persuaded by the ethnic or religious arguments that have pervaded our political landscape at the moment.

You have spoken well. As for security, I deliberately leave it out of my list because if we can get those 3 areas I mentioned right, insecurity will surely reduce.
Re: Atiku Vs. Obi: How Each Of Them Intend To Fix Nigeria's Power Problem by frog12: 12:20pm On Jul 26, 2022
and what of tinubu ? obi was a governor just like tinubu. even though tinubu was a senator before. stop discouraging people with talent. if you read obi's story you will be surprised. he spent 3 years in court fighting the governor electoin until he was declared winner. then the dull inec expecting him to serve only 1 year? he challenged it and spent the full 4 years. after that they impeached him because he was being stingy on costs and i think he used people he knows for procurement at cheaper costs.

when i read the story, i started to respect him. so don't judge a book by its cover. you think atiku that was a vice president for 8 years and was in charge of power problems, is better? for 8 years, atiku spent 16 billion dollars to fix power, but there's no result.


KikBuhari2Daura:
Obi is a good man but unfortunately he lacks the experience. Governance at National level goes beyond telling stories.

I find his story about buying fuel for his convoy as a Governor very repulsive, as a leader you must delegate you must have people you can trust to help you deliver, no man is an island.

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Re: Atiku Vs. Obi: How Each Of Them Intend To Fix Nigeria's Power Problem by plaindealer: 12:21pm On Jul 26, 2022
mycar:

They signed contract in 2019, construction started this year, and how far has the construction been and by the way, how would you know that they are getting it right if you don't even know the right thing?
That has been our problem, when you give someone work to do, you don't care to know if the person is doing the right or not until everybody gets tired and forget about it. all the policies, contracts and pronouncements made by your wicked people have all gone to train. You and your wicked government came up with sim and bvn registration to tackle insecurity and now even your president is under danger of been kidnapped.
and I know that if peter had gone elsewhere to study how it would be implemented successful, your type would have insulted hell out of him.
Just be careful of what you are wishing for out of tribal sentiment might provide you all more than you bargained for.


What is this one taking about. We are talking about A and this one is talking about B.


Go and sit down if you cannot follow simple internet discussion.
Re: Atiku Vs. Obi: How Each Of Them Intend To Fix Nigeria's Power Problem by frog12: 12:21pm On Jul 26, 2022
another fool. obi was practical. he went to egypt to study their solution. atiku was never practical. atiku only talks.

PandoraObi:
Atiku was practical despite he is not going to do it, but Peter Obidient was clueless and not receptive , he was talking of Egypt and he has forgotten Egypt doesn't have Igbo tribe that are celebrating unknown gunmen that are killing other igbos, he has forgotten this is Nigeria with different people with different mentality

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Re: Atiku Vs. Obi: How Each Of Them Intend To Fix Nigeria's Power Problem by ChristineC: 12:22pm On Jul 26, 2022
plaindealer:


What's your hateful and bitter anti Nigerian rubbish got to do with the Siemens deal?

When ignorant people run out of sensible things to say, they start talking about irrelevant and meaningless rubbish.

It not by force to comment.
you are the person chatting poppycock from page one. what is the anti Nigerian nonsense you are referencing?
can you tell us why a contract was signed in 2019, and construction in such an important sector; which is not rocket science by the way, commenced "just a few months ago" by a government installed in 2015?
you are defending a crime against the Nigerian state and wrapping your nakednes in a toga of righteousness while at it.
Re: Atiku Vs. Obi: How Each Of Them Intend To Fix Nigeria's Power Problem by omenka(m): 12:23pm On Jul 26, 2022
Gringori is an overrated Dumbo. Only Igbos think otherwise.

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Re: Atiku Vs. Obi: How Each Of Them Intend To Fix Nigeria's Power Problem by mycar: 12:26pm On Jul 26, 2022
plaindealer:



What is this one taking about. We are talking about A and this one is talking about B.


Go and sit down if you cannot follow simple internet discussion.
That's you guys problem, when examples are cited, it becomes an issue.
One way thinkers, when you give out contract, you don't want to know if what is being done is what was agreed upon hence many failed projects everywhere

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