plaindealer:


Stop boring me with your ignorant and bigoted rubbish, democracy is all about choices, freedom of association and freedom of choice, not about you religious bigots and fake Christians and brown envelope chasing CAN.


Are you Igbos terrorists not idol worshipers sef?

Niklaus398:
God didn't send him. It is that simple. And he himself said it. That when they go to Tinubu in those days he gives them envelope. So isn't he a brown envelope bishop? Lol.

Bishop kukah isn't saying vote Tinubu like this fake Bishop are telling us too and even lying that God said Nigerians should vote Tinubu..which God?

God is not a God of partial

tonyuny12:


Is he still serving that said bishop?

And if we go by what it means to be a bishop I'm afraid many including registered churches with CAN don't fit in at all.

He was called by his spiritual father an evangelist... Hmm, when does it become the responsibility of any man to decide what ministry of the Holy Spirit a man called to service should operate. You can be a bishop yet an evangelist in nature and calling.

Decent09:



But the Pastor's said he is being directed by God, even though he didn't explain which one (Abi The Father, the Son or The Holy Spirit), so since it's from God, then all christiandom have to accept it whole heartedly

tonyuny12:


I belong to a body of Christ and I'm ok with that. Whether they be registered or not isn't my motivation, but how much of Jesus they expose me to is what matters.

tonyuny12:


Is prophet Obadare his God or a privileged spiritual father of his?
Certificate doesn't qualify you as one before God. Anyone can be certified on the basis of man's parameters but what is God saying about you as a certified minister of His?
Have we not seen certified bishops or men with titles who brought shame to the body of Christ?

For this cause left I thee in Crete, that thou shouldest set in order the things that are wanting, and ordain elders in every city, as I had appointed thee

OnyeAshuaUru:
Archbishop Onaiyekan we know.
Bishop Oyedepo we know.
Bishop Kukah we also know.

This unknown god-man can only be a Bishop of Tinubu diocese.

Agboriotejoye:

Very true. It is also why you should care for the flock of Christ as he commanded before leaving the Earth.

Agboriotejoye:

True. But the Bible passages that establish the office of a Bishop says they must be appointed by other bishops not self-appointed. Read 1 Timothy 3: 1-7 and Titus 1:5-9 especially. Let me paste Titus 1:5 here:
From the bolded, you can see Paul appointed Titus a bishop and then asked him to appoint others likewise using the template he gave him.

From the scripture you quoted in 1 Tim 3: 1-5, it speaks of one who desires and gave requirements and if one meets those requirements as a founder of a church, what stops him from being a bishop?

Secondly, the appointment as spoken in Titus was for elders and not bishops. There's a distinct between an elder and a bishop in terms of operations (office). More so, as much as you're a founder of your own ministry wether or not someone ordained you, you can be titled the bishop of your ministry.

I don't buy into this titles of a thing though.


So Bishop is not a calling of the Holy Spirit. It is an administrative position that is by appointment from another Bishop. If anyone says God appointed him or her a Bishop, he will have to explain where that one come from

Agboriotejoye:

True. But the Bible passages that establish the office of a Bishop says they must be appointed by other bishops not self-appointed. Read 1 Timothy 3: 1-7 and Titus 1:5-9 especially. Let me paste Titus 1:5 here:
From the bolded, you can see Paul appointed Titus a bishop and then asked him to appoint others likewise using the template he gave him.
So Bishop is not a calling of the Holy Spirit. It is an administrative position that is by appointment from another Bishop. If anyone says God appointed him or her a Bishop, he will have to explain where that one come from

life2017:


https://thenationonlineng.net/cans-stance-on-muslim-muslim-ticket-not-of-god-bishop/

tonyuny12:


Caring for them doesn't mean I should force or manipulate their decisions with respect to their choice of leadership.

alibiz:
That's his own choice and tinubu his brother.
Both him and tinubu will be disgraced next year.

Agboriotejoye:

Who is forcing or manipulating their decisions between CAN and Kayode Williams?
May I ask? Do you think it is fair for anyone to claim God sent him when God did not?
I have already established that CAN never claimed God told them to reject M-M ticket. They did so out of the conviction that it does not serve the interest of Christians given the persecution Christians have faced from the hands of Islamists in recent times, examples being that of Deborah Samuel and Owo massacre.
What greater care can exist between leaders and the led than to look out for their best interests instead of claiming divine authority over them when there's no need to?

Agboriotejoye:

Well, he is not a member of CAN so whatever he says it's for him and his disciples. You can't decide for an organization you're not part of.

Agboriotejoye:

Who is forcing or manipulating their decisions between CAN and Kayode Williams?
May I ask? Do you think it is fair for anyone to claim God sent him when God did not?
I have already established that CAN never claimed God told them to reject M-M ticket. They did so out of the conviction that it does not serve the interest of Christians given the persecution Christians have faced from the hands of Islamists in recent times, examples being that of Deborah Samuel and Owo massacre.
What greater care can exist between leaders and the led than to look out for their best interests instead of claiming divine authority over them when there's no need to?

Agboriotejoye:

As you can see from your picture, elder, bishop, pastor are used interchangeably in New testament Greek. If you look at verse 6 and 7 of that chapter, you will see that he lists same qualities as was listed in 1 Timothy and also uses the word overseer in v7 that was used in Titus 1. Even in 1 Timothy 3, you will clearly see that the lists are what Apostle Paul believed to be requirements to qualify for the office of a bishop. May I ask. if there are standards to be met before you can acquire a certain status, is it proper that the same candidate is allowed to examine himself, score himself and appoint himself? 1 Timothy says if anyone aspires to be an overseer. You only aspire to something you wish to be not make yourself.

Agboriotejoye:

As you can see from your picture, elder, bishop, pastor are used interchangeably in New testament Greek. If you look at verse 6 and 7 of that chapter, you will see that he lists same qualities as was listed in 1 Timothy and also uses the word overseer in v7 that was used in Titus 1. Even in 1 Timothy 3, you will clearly see that the lists are what Apostle Paul believed to be requirements to qualify for the office of a bishop. May I ask. if there are standards to be met before you can acquire a certain status, is it proper that the same candidate is allowed to examine himself, score himself and appoint himself? 1 Timothy says if anyone aspires to be an overseer. You only aspire to something you wish to be not make yourself.

life2017:


https://thenationonlineng.net/cans-stance-on-muslim-muslim-ticket-not-of-god-bishop/

babaolofin:


You think so?

tonyuny12:

So does that mean all who are elders in churches are bishops? Then with the lifestyles of many called elders in the church I think we are making a mess of the office and it calls for concern.

tonyuny12:


What was CAN response to the aforementioned murder? What did they do to alleviate the pains of the families of the victims and the victims in the case of those in owo?