MaobiCarl:
..Satan did not appear anywhere in genesis account..

Solofresh2:
Don't be dececived by this things.This tales are told to put fear and orderliness all in the name of Christianity..

MaobiCarl:


Most importantly in genesis account during the fall we also read that it was a literal snake that made Adam and eve to sin, we're sure of this because the snake had legs before but God removed it and cursed it to crawl all the days of it's miserable life for deceiving Adam and Eve, the bible passages also contained stories where we find talking animals. So it's not strange that a snake talked in genesis.

Isaiah 47 vs 7.

Dtruthspeaker:


See how you people are blind when you read?

What you call new testament
Revelation 12:9
And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth,

What you call old testament
Genesis 3:13
..And the woman said, The serpent beguiled (deceived) me, and I did eat

knowingChrist:
Who's this we who're sure that it was a literal snake that deceived Eve? Also, do you understand that the bible makes it clear that Adam was not deceived? Or what kind of bible are you reading? The bible says Adam refused to obey the authority of God (which means to disobey), so what are you talking about? Take some time to study pls

MaobiCarl:

See how you responded with full chest thinking you're intelligent. No place in genesis was the serpent mentioned as Satan.

MaobiCarl:

The genesis account entirely proved and made sure of it was a mere snake.
Please defend that it wasn't a snake with genesis account or the old testament (torah).
Ballam donkey talked, the pre Christian Jews believed in a many fairly tales where animals talked and a talking snake is one of them

MaobiCarl:
The Satan in the new testament is completely different from the one in the old testament.
Old testament's adversary in few places he was mentioned like Job and Ezekiel was more like an angel or messenger who did the biddings of yahweh.
Lucifer in isaiah was the babylonian empire or assyrian empire, Jesus himself was acknowledged as the "morning star" in revelation which means lucifer.

Satan did not appear anywhere in genesis account. We read about disobedient angels who was destroyed during a flood. Most importantly in genesis account during the fall we also read that it was a literal snake that made Adam and eve to sin, we're sure of this because the snake had legs before but God removed it and cursed it to crawl all the days of it's miserable life for deceiving Adam and Eve, the bible passages also contained stories where we find talking animals. So it's not strange that a snake talked in genesis.
So where did the Satan in Christianity come from? When yahweh was both evil and goodness
Isaiah 47 vs 7.

17 When the 72 followers came back from their trip, they were very happy. They said, “Lord, even the demons obeyed us when we used your name!”
18 Jesus said to them, “I saw Satan falling like lightning from the sky.
19 He is the enemy, but know that I have given you more power than he has. I have given you power to crush his snakes and scorpions under your feet. Nothing will hurt you.
20 Yes, even the spirits obey you. And you can be happy, not because you have this power, but because your names are written in heaven.” - Luke 10 vs 17 - 20

Kobojunkie:
While much of the ideas out there on Satan in Christianity today is of myth, Satan is however indicated as an enemy by Jesus Christ, but much like the Satan of Old, Jesus Christ also indicated in the same texts that Satan has no power over Him and so is not of significant threat to any of those who are His followers.

Kobojunkie:
While much of the ideas out there on Satan in Christianity today is of myth, Satan is however indicated as an enemy by Jesus Christ, but much like the Satan of Old, Jesus Christ also indicated in the same texts that Satan has no power over Him and so is not of significant threat to any of those who are His followers.

Piptocoin:
No matter how much the truth is written in plain text there will always be those who will play blind or twist the scriptures to pervert the truth. An example is the Op.

MaobiCarl:

The genesis account entirely proved and made sure of it was a mere snake.
Please defend that it wasn't a snake with genesis account or the old testament (torah).
Ballam donkey talked, the pre Christian Jews believed in a many fairly tales where animals talked and a talking snake is one of them

Kobojunkie:
Well, if we are to agree that that which is written is truth, then 99.9999% of Christians out there believe in lies, right? This since they believe instead in the doctrines and traditions of men, ideas born of the special interpretations/delusions of men.

Kobojunkie:
Well, if we are to agree that that which is written is truth, then 99.9999% of Christians out there believe in lies, right? This since they believe instead in the doctrines and traditions of men, ideas born of the special interpretations/delusions of men.

Kobojunkie:
Well, if we are to agree that that which is written is truth, then 99.9999% of Christians out there believe in lies, right? This since they believe instead in the doctrines and traditions of men, ideas born of the special interpretations/delusions of men.

MaobiCarl:
The genesis account entirely proved and made sure of it was a mere snake.
Please defend that it wasn't a snake with genesis account or the old testament (torah).
Ballam donkey talked, the pre Christian Jews believed in a many fairly tales where animals talked and a talking snake is one of them

Kobojunkie:
Well, you are off to a good start processing what is written as is written.

MaobiCarl:

The genesis account entirely proved and made sure of it was a mere snake.
Please defend that it wasn't a snake with genesis account or the old testament (torah).
Ballam donkey talked, the pre Christian Jews believed in a many fairly tales where animals talked and a talking snake is one of them

MrPRevailer:


Isaiah 14:12 How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!
:13 For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north:
:14 I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High.
15: Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit.

Zechariah 3:1 And he shewed me Joshua the high priest standing before the angel of the LORD, and Satan standing at his right hand to resist him.
:2 And the LORD said unto Satan, The LORD rebuke thee, O Satan; even the LORD that hath chosen Jerusalem rebuke thee: is not this a brand plucked out of the fire?

John 10:10 "The thief came not but to steal, to kill and to destroy. I am come that you might have life and have it more abundantly" {Jesus}.

John 8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

Kobojunkie:
Well, if we are to agree that that which is written is truth, then 99.9999% of Christians out there believe in lies, right? This since they believe instead in the doctrines and traditions of men, ideas born of the special interpretations/delusions of men.

Piptocoin:
before anything, how did you come up with your statistics? link(s) needed.

Kobojunkie:
The vast majority of what is suggested as Christianity today is instead Churchianism, a religion built on the very doctrines and traditions of men which Jesus Christ warned were lies that were against God's Truth .I.e. AntiChrist in nature. And so since 99.999999% of those who poll as Christians subscribe to churchianity hold to these doctrines, it follows that...

Piptocoin:
half-truths are the same as lies. the numbers are still weird.

Maynman:

Isiah 14:12 is talking about a babylon king, look up isiah 14:4.

MrPRevailer:


So a Babylonian king called Lucifer fell from Heaven?
The only place in scripture that repeats is

Revelation 12:10 And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night.

He is called "the Accuser." The same one who accuses Joshua in the Book of Zechariah and was rebuked.

'Son of the morning' is not the same as 'the Morning Star'.

MaobiCarl:



See how you responded with full chest thinking you're intelligent. No place in genesis was the serpent mentioned as Satan.
And you're quoting an entire different culture, language and religion imbedded in an apocalyptic book seeking to gain recognition and acceptance.
Ur very dull

MrPRevailer:


Genesis 1:31 And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day.

Luke 22:3 "Then entered Satan into Judas surnamed Iscariot, being of the number of the twelve."

Satan is a spirit. It's either he was speaking physically with Eve or he entered into a snake.
Judas committed evil because he was under the influence of the Devil.