olabowale:

Just on the Title alone, the Protestants do worse than the Catholics! Why? While they were breaking away from what they deemed 'Modern day Idolatry,' they copy almost the 100% of what they hated, with just the 6 or 7 Books left out, in the NT section. They kept the idea of Trinity, even though it does not appear in the Bible, one may argue it that way. The fact is that both developed an idea and attach it to a word that does not appear in the Book that they are using to prove the word, Trinity from that Idea.

Both has God the father, god the son and while the older sect has a mother god, the younger sect, which is a byproduct of the older sect replaced mother god with holy ghost/spirit god! This reminds me of the Panamanians, Cubans and the Brazilians who are worshipping the yoruba idolatry gods. They deveoped their brands of these yoruba 'thing,' clearly different from how it is known within the Yorubas. To a person looking at the 'new Yorubas of Caribbeans and South America,' brand of these idolatry and comparing it to the same type of what the authntic Yorubas of Nigeria do, he/she may be swayed to conclude that the Yorubas idolatry is the fake, between the two. One will be forced to note that even both of them are evil and not worth mentioning and should not be practiced, there is no way that an original thing could not be the authentic to the offshoot.

It is therefore to note that as much as I will not become a Christian, there is no way that the catholic sect should not be the authentic sect of Christian religion when compared with the prostestant sect! The Original is always authentic when is compared to the copycat. The original is always the one that is been around longer, than the copycat. The Original is always what the copycat uses as its basis. The Original is what the copycat gets its foundamental idea from. So you see, Catholic is older, more original, and therefore deemed authentic. Hence if Catholic is idolatry, then clearly protestant is a copycat/fake idolatry, without any doubt.

Ganjaseed:

Wether the RCC people accept it now or not the truth remained that RCC Is a big disaster to the Christendom. The RCC is the mother of all spiritual fornication and harlotry the Bible talks about, they spreed bad seed on the hart of the weak and these weak followers of that devilish doctrine accept it and are obedient to it, too weak to study and show theselves approved unto God a work man that needed not to be ashamed but rightly dividing the word of truth. Every thing done in the RCC is absolutely contrary to the scripture, they preach new message that is not inspired by the Holy spirit and the Bible warns "from such turn away".

Hnd-holder:

Catholic the first church

Hnd-holder:

Better than a pent rascally one man church of the pretenders

Yes. I agree 100%

The first church to:

1. emerge after the early church
2. make idolatory a christian practice
3. make pedophilia a church doctrine
4. support wars and racism
5. be largely political
6. practise celibacy for "priests"

The church is FIRST alright

~Lady~:

Wrong!!!

Seriously ma'am, why don't you appraoch things with love. You know since you are not Catholic, and according to you and several others, Catholics are not Christian, which would then make you all Christians, why don't you actually practice Christianity?

Did Jesus say that we should approach people with hatred or cynicsm? No he did not.
If you don't understand, then ask, and when questions are asked of you, then please respond.

I am stil waiting for non-Catholics [/b]who know the Bible to actually answer one question about the Bible and about GOD. Nope [b]they run and hide.

It really is sickening, if you can't be mature about discussins then simply don't respond.
If you cannot help but be hypocritical then please don't respond.
If you cannot defend your own beliefs with logic and the Bible, then please don't respond.

1) The earliest record of the Church being called Catholic was in 100 A.D.

2) Before you start speaking idolatry, why don't you first go learn what idolatry means, then you will see that it is not found anywhere in the Catholic Church.

3) Show me the pedophilic doctrine

4) Show me the wars and racism.

Incase you don't know the Catholic church was the Church that fought against racism and slavery. If you don't know well now you know

5) Show me the politics in Catholicism

6) ANd Christ said there are those who are unable to marry because they were born so, those unable to marry because they were made so by man, those who choose to be unmarried for the sake of the Kingdom of heaven, let those who understand do so.
So please simply state that you do not understand Jesus, thank you.

Paul himself was unmarried. The apostles moved around too much to be at home with their families, well for those who were married. They remained celibate until their death. Unless you would say that they didn't travel to spread the gospel.

Look if you don't know anything about the Church, then kindly keep your comments to yourself. If you are sincere and want to learn then do so. You don't have to agree but you have to respect.
If it is burning your body that we have it together and we are not answerable to any man, sorry but that's your own palava.

Remember Jesus was persecuted as the Church is persecuted for spreading the gospel, the Church will always be persecuted and much more than He was.

SO hate it or love it, we have been here for 2000 years and we will continue to be here. There is a reason why the Church has not fallen, did you ever ask yourself that?

Anyway, peace. I would love to have a convo with you, but only after you come correct and with respect.

Hnd-holder:

Why are you just blaming Moses for making a bronze snake in the wilderness to safe the Israelites. It is too late to blame David for dancing before the ark of the lord. You know nothing about the Bible can't you just close your eyes in shame?

Hnd-holder:


By their fruit we shall know them.

Please leave carmelily alone to her opinion she is bitter with the catholics, who knows may be she was dating "them" I mean the missed road priests of USA.

Psychologically somebody needs a Doctor here

"The greatest genocide during World War II, in proportion to a nation's population, took place, not in Nazi Germany but in the Nazi-created puppet state of Croatia."

"Genocide in Satellite Croatia, 1941-1945"
Professor Edmond Paris,
Chicago, 1961, Introduction to the book.

"Nonpartisan sources agree that mass genocide was authorized by the state of Croatia. They concur that the state instigated, planned, and executed massacres against the Serbian Orthodox minority,  and that the Catholic clergy approved, led, or failed to denounce these massacres."

"Accounting for Genocide"
Professor Helen Fein,
The Free Press, New York 1979, page 102.

"THE VATICAN'S HOLOCAUST is not a misnomer, an accusation, and even less a speculation. It is an historical fact. Rabid nationalism and religious dogmatism were its two main ingredients. During the existence of Croatia as an independent Catholic State, over 700,000 men, women and children perished. Many were executed, tortured, died of starvation, buried alive, or were burned to death. Hundreds were forced to become Catholic. Catholic padres ran concentration camps; Catholic priests were officers of the military corps which committed such atrocities."

"The Vatican's Holocaust"
Baron Avro Manhattan,
Ozark Books, Springfield MO, 1986
Preface to the American Editions

Compelling Jews to wear yellow badges came from an invention of the Catholic Church. The Fourth Lateran Council of 1215 set up the Inquisition along with enforcement of Jews wearing a yellow spot on their clothes and a horned cap (pileum cornutum) to mark them as the murderers of Christ and to remind them of their descent from the devil. During the Black Death plague which ravaged Europe in the 14th century, the Catholic clergy aimed its blame at the Jews claiming they worked for the Devil and had poisoned the wells and springs. Their extermination compares with the pogroms that took place in the 20th century under Hitler. During the Spanish Inquisition, the Catholic Church directed its actions against the baptized Jews, the marranos. They forbade them to hold any office in the Church or the state; many suffered torture or death.

Popes have traditionally supported anti-Jewish acts and beliefs. Pope Paul IV in the sixteenth century established the Roman ghetto (another Catholic invention). For more than two centuries afterward, Catholics humiliated the Roman Jews and degraded them at the annual carnival. In the same century, Pope Gregory XIII instituted enforced Christian sermons insulting Judaism. [Cornwell, p. 299]. In a Papal custom Popes performed an anti-Jewish ceremony on their way to the basilica of St. John Lateran. Here the Pontiff would receive a copy of the Pentateuch from the hand of Rome's rabbi. The Pope then returned the text upside down with twenty pieces of gold, proclaiming that, while he respected the Law of Moses, he disapproved of the hard hearts of the Jewish race. [Cornwell, p. 27]

Hnd-holder:

pedophilic priests

How about non- priests in USA?

If either males or females cannot for some reason obtain s[b]exual access to their opposite members[/b], they will find sexual outlets in other ways."'Man is a loving animal, and he is going to love whatever he is near.'

Catholic priest is still better than fraudsters in the name of the lord they still get involved with teenagers too.

Hnd-holder:

Yes we are now talking.

Chrisbenogor:

Lol you guys are at it again how I manage to miss all this things me I don't know for myself, maybe I am not praying hard enough
Ok wetin happen why una dey beef my friends na.
No body holy pass, somebody has problem with bad priests na wa, them no be human being?
Ok what of all the senseless genocides done in the bible who complain?
When moses give isrealites grounded gold powder to drink no body complain, he asked the first set of priests in the bible got commissioned after murdering 3000 of their people?
Did the bible even condemn slavery ,no so why do you have a problem with world war 2. You do not need google to get examples of mass genocide just open to exodus and read down to joshua !
Er you may need to get shawarma     

what are u talking about? who runs and hides where?
Have you read IN GOD'S NAME. Is the author catholic?

Then the Council of Hippo, a regional council for some of the bishops in the Diocese of Africa, in 393 AD reaffirmed The Decree of Damasus. The third Council of Carthage was far more authoritative than the Council of Hippo. The Diocese of Africa then had its see at Carthage, so Carthage had authority to speak for all of the northwest African bishops. The Council of Carthage in 397 AD also reaffirmed The Decree of Damasus. [b][size=15pt]Carthage, unlike Hippo, sent its decisions to Rome for ratification. Pope St. Boniface I (418-422) ratified the decision and declared the canon settled for the Western Patriarchate. [/size][/b]He also sent the decision to the Eastern patriarchs in Alexandria, Antioch and Jerusalem. At that point, the Catholic Canon of Sacred Scripture was informally accepted worldwide.

"The greatest genocide during World War II, in proportion to a nation's population, took place, not in Nazi Germany but in the Nazi-created puppet state of Croatia."

"Genocide in Satellite Croatia, 1941-1945"
Professor Edmond Paris,
Chicago, 1961, Introduction to the book.

"Nonpartisan sources agree that mass genocide was authorized by the state of Croatia. They concur that the state instigated, planned, and executed massacres against the Serbian Orthodox minority,  and that the Catholic clergy approved, led, or failed to denounce these massacres."

"Accounting for Genocide"
Professor Helen Fein,
The Free Press, New York 1979, page 102.

"THE VATICAN'S HOLOCAUST is not a misnomer, an accusation, and even less a speculation. It is an historical fact. Rabid nationalism and religious dogmatism were its two main ingredients. During the existence of Croatia as an independent Catholic State, over 700,000 men, women and children perished. Many were executed, tortured, died of starvation, buried alive, or were burned to death. Hundreds were forced to become Catholic. Catholic padres ran concentration camps; Catholic priests were officers of the military corps which committed such atrocities."

"The Vatican's Holocaust"
Baron Avro Manhattan,
Ozark Books, Springfield MO, 1986
Preface to the American Editions

Hypocritical? what do u think u know about me? I have to believe in the Bible to respond to posts? when did NL make these rules, Ms. Moderator??

You've solved the seeming mystery on this thread!The origin of the Catholic church. Bravo!
At least, it's settled that 100 AD means not from the Apostles' time.

Ever been to Rome?

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1001926,00.html
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,980660,00.html
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,978816,00.html

To mention a few. and by the way,  there's still no official apology. The Pope just "regrets" that it happened. well, so do we all!

Nasogold:

TO CALL A SPADE A SPADE, THE CATHOLICS ARE WHAT THE BIBLE SAYS THEY ARE: A GREAT LovePeddler AND MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND THE ABORMINATION OF THE EARTH, DRUNK WITH THE BLOOD OF THE SAINTS (KILLED 68M SAINTS IN THE DARK AGES) AND THEY WILL END UP IN PERDITION - IN HELL.
REVELATION 17.
AND IN CHAPTER 18 THE BIBLE SAYS, COME OUT FROM AMONG THEM.