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Re: Why Jehovah Witnesses Reject Blood Transfusion But God Created Eve Used Adam Rib by Janosky: 1:46pm On Nov 21, 2022 |
Courz: Courz your tantrums can only deceive gullible folks fed by your delusion. Only stupid folks like you dispute the solid evidence of medical science research which is the basis of professionally accepted global best practices of medical treatment (in this screenshot).
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Re: Why Jehovah Witnesses Reject Blood Transfusion But God Created Eve Used Adam Rib by Courz: 1:47pm On Nov 21, 2022 |
Janosky: A very good and well informed comment from Jaephoenix. You can tell that doctrines of JWs only appeal to perpetually ignorant people. If you want to make a JW look stupid, just give very hard facts backed with real life experiences, history and a very good education on a subject. Works everytime. Then you will realise their stupidity. 1 Like |
Re: Why Jehovah Witnesses Reject Blood Transfusion But God Created Eve Used Adam Rib by Courz: 1:52pm On Nov 21, 2022 |
Janosky: Janosky with your Maggot infested brain, don't bust your brain vessels with anger when an experienced person in the field has a very good contribution to make on this subject. Read and learn from the below comment so that you can learn a thing or two instead of allowing uneducated old senile white men from New York to use your life as a sacrifice to Lucifer. I didn’t want to contribute to this for fear of this mad spamb9t restricting my account. But I'll chip in I am a Physician of 16 years experience. Blood transfusion is a life saver. Reason why hospitals all over the world go for blood drives. Reason why there are blood banks globally. So I don't know where Max got his narrative that health workers abhor transfusions Now bloodless surgeries are safe, no doubt, but guess what? They don't apply to all surgeries, they are very expensive and not every surgeon can operate that way. We doctors try as much as possible to reduce blood loss during ops but sometimes it doesn't work out that way, and u end up with angry bleeders. So what do u do? Not many Nigerians can afford minimally invasive procedures. Example, open appendicitis is circa 50k to 250k but laparoscopic appendicitis(which is a bloodless surgery) is around 1 to 1.5m. Now Caesarean Section and abdominal myomectomy are very bloody ops. Myomectomy is surgical removal of fibroids. Only certain fibroids can be removed by a laparoscopic myomectomy and they have to be small. So if the fibroids are large, numerous or deeply embedded in the uterus, then an abdominal myomectomy may be necessary. So if you are a Witness, what do u do? Another point Witnesses get it wrong is the blood substitutes they use like haemacel etc. Now these substances don't replace blood and they are damn costly. About 50k for a pint, while a pint of blood is around 5k. Imagine a patient that needs 3 pints… Worse still, if they are bleeding profusely from say big lacerations and stab wounds, haemacel and other subs are plain useless. U need blood Now we arrive at the issue of transfusion reaction. Like I pointed out earlier, I have been in practice for circa 16 years, and have been transfusing patients and I haven't seen 1 fatal reaction. Just one febrile reaction which I gave a shot of hydrocort, ran some saline and still recommenced the transfusion later which completed peacefully. My point… blood transfusion reactions are getting less and less troublesome. It's even less troublesome now we have better screening techniques and better drugs to counter them if they do happen Thanks for attending my Ted talk, sirs |
Re: Why Jehovah Witnesses Reject Blood Transfusion But God Created Eve Used Adam Rib by Janosky: 1:53pm On Nov 21, 2022 |
Courz:The screenshot is the perfect response to your tantrums,delusion and stupidity. Medical professionals in the screenshot, people wey KNOW pass you PROVEN you are throwing tantrums.
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Re: Why Jehovah Witnesses Reject Blood Transfusion But God Created Eve Used Adam Rib by AkinwaleJJ(f): 2:26pm On Nov 21, 2022 |
Janosky: Jaephoenix is an atheist nah so what do you expect? |
Re: Why Jehovah Witnesses Reject Blood Transfusion But God Created Eve Used Adam Rib by Dangig: 4:17pm On Nov 21, 2022 |
Janosky: But you JWs still die due to No Blood Transfusion. In fact, there are so many cases of such even making the news to the point that in some countries, they have court orders that allow medical practitioners to give Blood in life and death situations regardless of the stand of the JW. If we compare the rest of the population against you JWs, more of you die as a result of No Blood Transfusion than the rest of the population. Medicine has advanced to the point where People don't die because of Blood Transfusion. That's why this thread was created. If you are arguing for No Blood Transfusion and focusing on survival rates, Why are you JWs still dying? 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Why Jehovah Witnesses Reject Blood Transfusion But God Created Eve Used Adam Rib by AkinwaleJJ(f): 5:02pm On Nov 21, 2022 |
Dangig: Death is inevitable so man must die one way or another until God's Kingdom comes to put an end to death. The News only escalates when it involves JWs, there are many people who aren't JWs that objects against blood transfusion but then since it's not based on faith it will not be heard. The point of emphasis is not on how many people die while sticking to their faith but those keeping their faith against all odds. Hananiah (Shadrach) Mishael (Meshak) and Azariah (Abednego) stood against all odds in Babylon but try and search if any history book record that event apart from the Bible. Sennacherib of Assyria lost 185,000 soldiers against Jerusalem in just one night because Hezekiah stood firm for his faith but you won't hear such anywhere except in the Bible. So there are many successfully bloodless surgeries and treatments but only JWs can tell you it's when we face faithless people that they want to raise the roof! |
Re: Why Jehovah Witnesses Reject Blood Transfusion But God Created Eve Used Adam Rib by Dangig: 5:22pm On Nov 21, 2022 |
AkinwaleJJ: You are not answering the question. We all know we will die someday. How we die is a different matter. Just because we will all die someday doesn't mean we must be like the Terrorists who have no single value for human life. I am talking about deliberate suicide due to doctrine. You JWs still die due to No Blood Transfusion. In fact, there are so many cases of such even making the news to the point that in some countries, they have court orders that allow medical practitioners to give Blood in life and death situations regardless of the stand of the JW. If we compare the rest of the population against you JWs, more of you die as a result of No Blood Transfusion than the rest of the population. Medicine has advanced to the point where People don't die because of Blood Transfusion. I have never heard where people died because they were given Blood. That's why this thread was created. If you are arguing for No Blood Transfusion and focusing on survival rates, Why are you JWs still dying? 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Why Jehovah Witnesses Reject Blood Transfusion But God Created Eve Used Adam Rib by AkinwaleJJ(f): 6:56pm On Nov 21, 2022 |
Dangig: The Kingdom of our God has not come yet so wait till the kingdom of our God comes and we will live forever! |
Re: Why Jehovah Witnesses Reject Blood Transfusion But God Created Eve Used Adam Rib by johnw47: 9:27pm On Nov 21, 2022 |
Janosky:lost fraud jw janosky, you and mad maximus cannot answer to much at all, but do the twist on what is said all over the place either that or you are replying to others posts or voices in your head u false jw's r so confused: 1Co 14:33 For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints and of course you love to add to God's word, saying: "eating animal blood for nourishment" is the same as: "transfusing blood to save life": Deu 12:32 "Whatever I command you, you shall be careful to do; you shall not add to nor take away from it refusing to allow a procedure to save a life, is akin to murder: Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. Whenever he speaks a lie, that is his natural way of speaking, for he is a liar and the father of lies. 2 Likes |
Re: Why Jehovah Witnesses Reject Blood Transfusion But God Created Eve Used Adam Rib by johnw47: 9:32pm On Nov 21, 2022 |
MaxInDHouse: oh duh ,dum dum false jw mad maximus once again, to put it in terms for even a simpleton to understand: you have your governing body's teachings, you follow your governing body's teachings Christians have Jesus teachings, we follow Jesus teachings you false jw's sure are dum, aren't you Jesus didn't give false prophecies, governing body do, etc. etc. etc. 1 Like |
Re: Why Jehovah Witnesses Reject Blood Transfusion But God Created Eve Used Adam Rib by AkinwaleJJ(f): 9:53pm On Nov 21, 2022 |
johnw47: Oya quote the Bible nah! Idiot that's always quoting John 8:44 up and down, let's see how you're related to the real Jesus without a body of overseers anointed to mediate between Jesus and the OTHER SHEEP! John 10:16 Jesus doesn't know you if you're not submissive to the Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses. That i can prove before anyone with the scriptures! |
Re: Why Jehovah Witnesses Reject Blood Transfusion But God Created Eve Used Adam Rib by johnw47: 10:06pm On Nov 21, 2022 |
AkinwaleJJ: Ecclesiastes 7:6 For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, so is the laughter of the fool what part of what i said do you want me to quote bible for oh dum dum AkinwaleJJ:sewer mouth false jw trivina/mad maximus, i post john 8:44 because it describes you false jw's perfectly: Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. Whenever he speaks a lie, that is his natural way of speaking, for he is a liar and the father of lies. false jw's follow governing body teachings Christians follow Jesus teachings Jesus didn't give false prophecies, governing body do, etc. etc. etc. 1 Like |
Re: Why Jehovah Witnesses Reject Blood Transfusion But God Created Eve Used Adam Rib by Courz: 7:12pm On Nov 22, 2022 |
Janosky: Janosky with your Maggot infested brain, Your Screenshot has answered nothing. We gain a lot more information from real life experiences especially if they are coming from a doctor with 10 years experience who has wealth of info of real life situations that prove you JWs wrong. First, the doctor above mentioned that not every situation is solved by No Blood Transfusion. If you've got enough brain cells in that your Coconut head, you will know that accident victims, women in labour and others who have lost so much blood need immediate Blood Transfusion as soon as they get to the hospital. Alternatives to Blood Transfusion won't work for such ones as they need fast treatment to preserve life, something alternative treatment can't provide. This is a good disadvantage of No Blood Transfusion. The doc also mentioned that Bloodless alternatives are expensive. This is something I myself can testify because I had someone close to me who was in this situation and the money they spent was no child's play. Please, how many of you JWs can afford the expenses? Your Cult is filled with people that are struggling because Watchtower glorifies Poverty. Well to do people are not much. A lot of you don't even practice giving like that. Watchtower never even thinks of paying for Sick JWs treatments. It is no wonder that in spite of the option of Bloodless treatment, you JWs still die. The sensible ones that don't want to die take Blood Transfusion in secret. Can you see why I said you should learn a thing or two from this doc? You can post as many screenshots as you like but it will not answer the main question, Why do you JWs still die? Look at the pic below from your publication. Watchtower was praising these poor children for being human sacrifices for nothing. These are foreign children probably from advanced countries that should have access to advanced medical treatment. Yet, they still died. Why? These ones are even small. How about the millions of JWs, children, babies and adults that have died as human sacrifices? It is a good thing that the Bulgarian government realised this demonic doctrine and forced Watchtower to allow their Bulgarian JWs to take Blood else they will tax them. By the way, the screenshot you posted, that site is simply advertising their medical services and they have articles promoting both Blood Transfusion and No Blood Transfusion to get customers. 1 Like
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Re: Why Jehovah Witnesses Reject Blood Transfusion But God Created Eve Used Adam Rib by Courz: 8:09pm On Nov 22, 2022 |
This is what we are talking about below. Broad daylight Human Sacrifice. CSA= Child Sexual Abuse GB = Governing Body PIMQ = Physically In Mentally Questioning. Last screenshot, that's what sensible JWs do. 1 Like
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Re: Why Jehovah Witnesses Reject Blood Transfusion But God Created Eve Used Adam Rib by Janosky: 8:22pm On Nov 22, 2022 |
Courz:Do his professional colleagues who practice the treatment (options preferred by JWs) have 2 heads? Would Courz consult medical professionals whose range of services can not compare to the PROVEN results and standards of his professional colleagues? Courz IBERIBEISM, can you understand that medical professionals are also referred to as "Emergency Services professionals"? Dump your silly excuses into the dustbin. Odeh !! Courz: Courz Continue deceiving yourself with TWISTED narratives peppered with FALSE claims. John Hopkins hospital screenshot dey pain you wella. Courz: COURZ IBERIBEISM says "millions of JWs have died", .......Bulgarian Govt,blah blah blah. Courz go give Satan the devil tutorials on LYING. Courz IBERIBEISM can not process the PROVEN results and standards of medical professionals espoused by the screenshot. . |
Re: Why Jehovah Witnesses Reject Blood Transfusion But God Created Eve Used Adam Rib by Courz: 8:26pm On Nov 22, 2022 |
Janosky: Janosky with your Maggot infested brain, Your Screenshot has answered nothing. We gain a lot more information from real life experiences especially if they are coming from a doctor with 10 years experience who has wealth of info of real life situations that prove you JWs wrong. First, the doctor above mentioned that not every situation is solved by No Blood Transfusion. If you've got enough brain cells in that your Coconut head, you will know that accident victims, women in labour and others who have lost so much blood need immediate Blood Transfusion as soon as they get to the hospital. Alternatives to Blood Transfusion won't work for such ones as they need fast treatment to preserve life, something alternative treatment can't provide. This is a good disadvantage of No Blood Transfusion. The doc also mentioned that Bloodless alternatives are expensive. This is something I myself can testify because I had someone close to me who was in this situation and the money they spent was no child's play. Please, how many of you JWs can afford the expenses? Your Cult is filled with people that are struggling because Watchtower glorifies Poverty. Well to do people are not much. A lot of you don't even practice giving like that. Watchtower never even thinks of paying for Sick JWs treatments. It is no wonder that in spite of the option of Bloodless treatment, you JWs still die. The sensible ones that don't want to die take Blood Transfusion in secret. Can you see why I said you should learn a thing or two from this doc? You can post as many screenshots as you like but it will not answer the main question, Why do you JWs still die? Look at the pic below from your publication. Watchtower was praising these poor children for being human sacrifices for nothing. These are foreign children probably from advanced countries that should have access to advanced medical treatment. Yet, they still died. Why? These ones are even small. How about the millions of JWs, children, babies and adults that have died as human sacrifices? It is a good thing that the Bulgarian government realised this demonic doctrine and forced Watchtower to allow their Bulgarian JWs to take Blood else they will tax them. 1 Like
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Re: Why Jehovah Witnesses Reject Blood Transfusion But God Created Eve Used Adam Rib by Janosky: 8:29pm On Nov 22, 2022 |
Courz: The Chronic Liver Disease (in screenshot) causes permanent damage and not curable. Yet, COURZ IBERIBEISM typing GIBBERISH to MISLEAD gullible folks.
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Re: Why Jehovah Witnesses Reject Blood Transfusion But God Created Eve Used Adam Rib by Courz: 8:31pm On Nov 22, 2022 |
Janosky: Janosky with your Maggot infested brain, look at your fellow members doing the needful in the below screenshot. Nobody wants to die for a Cult as human sacrifices. Medical practitioners revealed your fellow JWs take blood secretly even after trying alternatives to Blood Transfusion and seeing it aint working. Janosky, try not to burst your brain cells with anger. As you can see, Some JWs know fully well your doctrines are bullshit! Hahahahahahahahahahaha. 1 Like
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Re: Why Jehovah Witnesses Reject Blood Transfusion But God Created Eve Used Adam Rib by Courz: 8:34pm On Nov 22, 2022 |
Janosky: Oh No. Your Brain is fried up. What did you smoke? The reason your JW lady died was because she refused Blood which would have helped her to get a Liver transplant. That's was what led to her dying from the condition. Learn to read. You are too dum! Janosky, try and get sense to read simple words. Stop smoking before reading and replying people. See your fellow JWs taking Blood. Nobody wants to die.! 1 Like
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Re: Why Jehovah Witnesses Reject Blood Transfusion But God Created Eve Used Adam Rib by Janosky: 8:39pm On Nov 22, 2022 |
Courz: The screenshot was written by sifia pained WAILER no different from COURZ IBERIBEISM. Was that guy & Courz LYING about chronic liver disease on this thread? Yes !!!!!! They type GIBBERISH without proofs. |
Re: Why Jehovah Witnesses Reject Blood Transfusion But God Created Eve Used Adam Rib by Courz: 8:46pm On Nov 22, 2022 |
Janosky: Janosky Janosky Janosky, you are too much of an illiterate! Learn to read. Woman has Liver disease. She goes to hospital. She is told in order to have a Liver Transplant, she must accept Blood. She says No. She died. Why? She failed to accept blood which would enable the whole operation of Liver Transplant successful. Why did the person create that post? Because her Mother refused Blood Transfusion that would have enabled her get a Liver! Look at the ending of the post. She is cursing you JWs out!! Your Cult has blood on their hands. Dum Dum!! You're a big fool. Your parents need to get a refund of whatever they spent on you in school. Haba! You see why I say you have a Maggot infested brain? 1 Like
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Re: Why Jehovah Witnesses Reject Blood Transfusion But God Created Eve Used Adam Rib by Courz: 8:49pm On Nov 22, 2022 |
Janosky: If your No Blood Transfusion is such a wonderful doctrine from God, why are JWs in Bulgaria allowed to take Blood? Why are your fellow JWs secretly taking blood even after trying Bloodless treatment as shown in the screenshot below? 1 Like
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Re: Why Jehovah Witnesses Reject Blood Transfusion But God Created Eve Used Adam Rib by johnw47: 10:47pm On Nov 22, 2022 |
AkinwaleJJ: lawless mad maximus, you often get banned for breaking forum rules, and then while banned you post in your wife's account which is also against the rules while banned in another account, when the lawless one is revealed, you false jw's will be just like him: 2Th_2:8 Then that lawless one will be revealed whom the Lord will slay with the breath of His mouth and bring to an end by the appearance of His coming; Mat_7:23 And then I will declare to them, I never knew you; DEPART FROM ME, YOU WHO PRACTICE LAWLESSNESS. Mat_13:41 The Son of Man will send forth His angels, and they will gather out of His kingdom all stumbling blocks, and those who commit lawlessness, Mat_23:28 So you, too, outwardly appear righteous to men, but inwardly you are full of hypocrisy and lawlessness when Jesus appears we Christians will be just like Him: 1Jn_3:2 Beloved, now we are children of God, and it has not appeared as yet what we will be. We know that when He appears, we will be like Him, because we will see Him just as He is 2 Likes |
Re: Why Jehovah Witnesses Reject Blood Transfusion But God Created Eve Used Adam Rib by Sand2022: 3:42pm On Nov 24, 2022 |
MaxInDHouse: Like! |
Re: Why Jehovah Witnesses Reject Blood Transfusion But God Created Eve Used Adam Rib by MaxInDHouse(m): 4:19pm On Nov 24, 2022 |
Re: Why Jehovah Witnesses Reject Blood Transfusion But God Created Eve Used Adam Rib by Janosky: 8:27pm On Nov 24, 2022 |
Courz: Courz LYING and misleading gullible folks. In Which year & Venue was that your fictional Agreement with Bulgarian Govt ( in your head) made? Which Bulgarian Govt official in your head is signatory to your fictional agreement? Courz IBERIBEISM be like Zeeworld- "extraordinary everyday." Courz: Courz LYING and misleading gullible folks. Was your LYING crew member in the Surgical Team performing surgical procedures on JWs? No. COURZ LYING crew member manufacture 99% in his head. Courz IBERIBEISM TWISTED narratives far from the reality exemplified in the screenshots evidences of medical research and successful treatment of JWs over 9years period. Courz LYING super glued GIBBERISH. 1 Like
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Re: Why Jehovah Witnesses Reject Blood Transfusion But God Created Eve Used Adam Rib by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:37pm On Nov 24, 2022 |
Janosky: My brother this are faithless people they're not interested in facts all they just want you to believe is that your God isn't different from theirs so if you disagree with them they come up with different accusations that's all! 1 Like |
Re: Why Jehovah Witnesses Reject Blood Transfusion But God Created Eve Used Adam Rib by Courz: 8:41pm On Nov 24, 2022 |
Janosky: If your No Blood Transfusion is such a wonderful doctrine from God, why are JWs in Bulgaria allowed to take Blood? Why are your fellow JWs taking Blood secretly some of them after trying Blood less surgery? 1 Like
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Re: Why Jehovah Witnesses Reject Blood Transfusion But God Created Eve Used Adam Rib by Courz: 8:42pm On Nov 24, 2022 |
MaxInDHouse: If your No Blood Transfusion is such a wonderful doctrine from God, why are JWs in Bulgaria allowed to take Blood? Why are There JWs taking Blood secretly even after trying Blood less Surgery? 1 Like
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Re: Why Jehovah Witnesses Reject Blood Transfusion But God Created Eve Used Adam Rib by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:46pm On Nov 24, 2022 |
Courz: OK you're tired of your stupidity in the FREEMASON story shey? Ọmọ i'm not interested in your madness so you can continue with your stories your audience are waiting for you! |
Re: Why Jehovah Witnesses Reject Blood Transfusion But God Created Eve Used Adam Rib by Courz: 8:47pm On Nov 24, 2022 |
Janosky: Your screenshot says nothing. It only treated some not all of JWs in the world. This is not a representative study of all JWs. Why are you JWs still dying in spite of Blood less alternatives? Why did these Children including the ones in the background below die? Why are your fellow JWs beginning to take blood secretly? These are the questions that need answers not that useless screenshot you posted. 1 Like
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