Janosky:

Did you REMOVE any portion of the screenshot?

Do you want more information and evidence?
It is here...

oteneaaron:


I am so sorry about your loss.

At least three JWs die everyday because of this deadly doctrine.

For many years now, they have shifted a lot of grounds with regards to this deadly doctrine of theirs.

oteneaaron:


Now they say that you can accept some fractions of blood, but if you can take some fraction of blood, is it not the same as taking the entire blood?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3QJhSEbxF4o

oteneaaron:

If you cook a soup with dog meat, and I insist that I don't eat dog meat but I still use the same soup to eat eba, does it not still mean that I have eaten dog meat?

oteneaaron:

The No-Blood doctrine of Jehovah's Witnesses has cost a lot of lives and it is almost as if the people who died because of this doctrine have been sacrificed to their evil god Jehovah.

It's is even eye opening when you investigate the true identity of their god Jehovah.

When you study ancient history, you will find out that Jehovah = ENLIL = Baal = Molooch = Yaladaboth = The DEMIURGE = Zeus = Jupiter

Check out the video attached below that better addresses this serious issue.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3QJhSEbxF4o

Janosky:

Oga, on Acts 15:29 , Leviticus 17:14, Revelation 2:10 & Acts 5 :29, Jehovah's servants hold on to our faith in God's word.
If you don't understand that, no offense.

No everything Jesus said or did made sense to his listeners.
Pls, Stay in your lane.

Janosky:

What happened to 44% in 2019 in one country?

This medical research journal is saying something based on genuine empirical evidence from just one country among over 250 countries in the globe and you choose to argue against the facts .
When you take such statistics in every country and corner of the globe, what would be the results?

Janosky:

Oga, on Acts 15:29 , Leviticus 17:14, Revelation 2:10 & Acts 5 :29, Jehovah's servants hold on to our faith in God's word.
If you don't understand that, no offense.

No everything Jesus said or did made sense to his listeners.
Pls, Stay in your lane.

Wilgrea7:


I don't know why exactly you think this helps your case in any way, shape or form.

As i explained to maximus before, you're only doing a case of "my skydaddy said so". It proves absolutely nothing. Some people's skydaddy wants them to k1ll infidels. So i guess we should support them right?

Also, in regards to some of Jesus' words not making sense to his immediate followers. I'd like to remind you that the words spoken by mad men on the street also don't make sense to the people who hear them.

I'm not trying to equate Jesus to a mad person. I'm just pointing out that your claim to some sort of "higher wisdom" makes no sense, since it can be applied to anyone.

Now, on to your scientific journal rebuttal. I'll be posting this as a screenshot since the NL bots seem to be keen on limiting my account.

Janosky:

The research outcome in that medical journal was from the entire globe, dubious statistician ?

The same medical personnel (most of them atheists sharing your worldview) you want us to believe lend credence to your claim are the same medical personnel pushing for bloodless surgery as a professionally accepted means of medical treatment recognised by their esteemed profession.

No be force to like JWs or what we believe.
Please,stay in your lane.

Aemmyjah:


He'll come and say that the pix you posted is from our website
Why try to lead the blind?

Janosky:

His fellow atheists in the medical profession disagree with his position.

Janosky:

The research outcome in that medical journal was from the entire globe, dubious statistician ?

The same medical personnel (most of them atheists sharing your worldview) you want us to believe lend credence to your claim are the same medical personnel pushing for bloodless surgery as a professionally accepted means of medical treatment recognised by their esteemed profession.

No be force to like JWs or what we believe.
Please,stay in your lane.

Janosky:

The research outcome in that medical journal was from the entire globe, dubious statistician ?

The same medical personnel (most of them atheists sharing your worldview) you want us to believe lend credence to your claim are the same medical personnel pushing for bloodless surgery as a professionally accepted means of medical treatment recognised by their esteemed profession.

No be force to like JWs or what we believe.
Please,stay in your lane.

Wilgrea7:


Random Jesus statement

Bodmum:
Respect other people's beliefs so that they will respect yours. Next time, I won't be lenient.

Freedom4us:

I am to respect people who believe the murder of Christians is good?
Are you okay ?

Wilgrea7:


Random Jesus statement

Janosky:

1.
Most medical personnel are atheists.
Oga,kiss the truth.

2. Does the evidence acknowledged by medical sciences PROVEN there are fatalities arising from the form of treatment you support?
Yes !

3.
No, your claim were debunked.
Does this screenshot PROVEN that you were wrong to project your bias over the choices I make as far as medical treatment is concerned?
Yes !

4.
Oga, you have zero input over the choices I & my fellow brothers make with a clear conscience,(which medical sciences has PROVEN it's validity) and professionally accepted with PROVEN results.

MaxInDHouse:
One thing i've discovered in faithless people is the way they come up with different races against God's organization but the truth will always prevail.
Whoever wants blood transfusion we won't stop him or her but our own God says it's not good for our health! Act 15:28-29

Sand2022:


While I agree that God is against eating blood, it however, didn't comment on blood transfusion. Don't you think since the bible is silent, that issue should be left for conscience? I mean the bible principle you quoted didn't comment on blood transfusion. That command is only limiting dietary eating of blood, right?

Sand2022:


While I agree that God is against eating blood, it however, didn't comment on blood transfusion. Don't you think since the bible is silent, that issue should be left for conscience? I mean the bible principle you quoted didn't comment on blood transfusion. That command is only limiting dietary eating of blood, right?

Janosky:

The principle of Acts 15:28-29 stands.
The samething from another source into your system is what the verses is against. Those Hypocrites pretending to be liberal.

MaxInDHouse:

DEAL!
So keep your Jesus while we keep our GOVERNING BODY!

MaxInDHouse:

Ọmọ stick to your Jesus while we stick to our GOVERNING BODY, you're not on the same page with us!

MaxInDHouse:

He claims he's for Jesus but i wonder why it's those claiming they're for Jesus that's always disturbed about what those following the Governing Body say?

johnw47:

Ecclesiastes 7:6
For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, so is the laughter of the fool
there you have it from the mad man's mouth, Christians have Jesus while false jw's have their governing body, they follow their governing body
of course true Christians have Jesus, true Christians follow Jesus, Jesus is head of the true Christian Church, eph 5 & col 1,
no governing body or a charismatic leader or papacy etc. etc. is head of the true Church,
Jesus is, that's who true Christians of God given faith follow

MaxInDHouse:
The real Jesus said:
(1)“I was not sent to anyone except to the lost sheep of the house of Israel" Matthew 15:24
(2)“Who really is the faithful and discreet slave whom his master appointed over his domestics, to give them their food at the proper time?" Matthew 24:45
(3)“Have no fear, little flock, for your Father has approved of giving you the Kingdom." Luke 12:32
(4)"Whoever is not on my side is against me, and whoever does not gather with me scatters" Luke 11:23
(5)"I have given them the glory that you have given me, in order that they may be one just as we are one" John 17:22
1~ Jesus has no direct dealing with people of the nations so if anyone not connected through a group of spiritual Jews think he has anything to do with Jesus such a person is on his/her own! Zechariah 8:23
2 ~ Jesus has handed over the gathering of his sheep to small group of anointed men who are serving as a faithful and discreet slave, whatever they bind or loosen on this planet has heavenly backing! Matthew 16:19
3 ~ The rulership of Jesus' endtime disciples has been given to this humble anointed men so Jesus referred to them as his "brothers" and whoever reject their humble services has nothing to do with Christ Jesus! Matthew 25:34-46
4 ~ All those turning against this arrangement can never unite as true disciples of Christ since they're only interested in what pleases them not what is mandatory as tenets of Christianity that's why you're all having contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines yet claiming disciples of just one man! 2Corinthians 4:4
5 ~ True disciples of Christ will all have the same line of thought {1Corinthians 1:10} LOVE is their identifying Mark {John 13:34-35} there must not be anything causing division among them so politics or racism affecting the nations can't influence them to kill one another like the people under Satan's control! Revelations 6:3-4
So when you people claim you're for Jesus yet there's no solid agreement on terms and conditions of worship it makes you people workers of LAWLESSNESS {Matthew 7:21-23} as you're making a mockery of the most wonderful counselor of all time whose true followers are to be noticed as one big and happy family of peace loving worshipers globally! Isaiah 2:2-4 compare Matthew 5:14-16
I purposely set the trap expecting any of you to come and raise the objection but foolish you have entered it, now prove yourself a true disciple of Christ by refuting what Christ who has no direct dealing with anyone from the nations said above!

Janosky:

The principle of Acts 15:28-29 stands.
The samething from another source into your system is what the verses is against.
Those Hypocrites pretending to be liberal.

Janosky:

1.
Most medical personnel are atheists.
Oga,kiss the truth.

2. Does the evidence acknowledged by medical sciences PROVEN there are fatalities arising from the form of treatment you support?
Yes !

3.
No, your claim were debunked.
Does this screenshot PROVEN that you were wrong to project your bias over the choices I make as far as medical treatment is concerned?
Yes !

4.
Oga, you have zero input over the choices I & my fellow brothers make with a clear conscience,(which medical sciences has PROVEN it's validity) and professionally accepted with PROVEN results.

5.
Shalom.

johnw47:


false jw mad maximus


your post doesn't absolve you of saying you have your governing body, you follow your governing body,

and i say again: we Christians have Christ, we follow Christ


to put it in terms for even a simpleton to understand:

you have your governing body's teachings, you follow your governing body's teachings

Christians have Jesus teachings, we follow Jesus teachings

you false jw's sure are dum, aren't you

jaephoenix:

I didn’t want to contribute to this for fear of this mad spamb9t restricting my account. But I'll chip in
I am a Physician of 16 years experience. Blood transfusion is a life saver. Reason why hospitals all over the world go for blood drives. Reason why there are blood banks globally. So I don't know where Max got his narrative that health workers abhor transfusions
Now bloodless surgeries are safe, no doubt, but guess what? They don't apply to all surgeries, they are very expensive and not every surgeon can operate that way. We doctors try as much as possible to reduce blood loss during ops but sometimes it doesn't work out that way, and u end up with angry bleeders. So what do u do? Not many Nigerians can afford minimally invasive procedures. Example, open appendicitis is circa 50k to 250k but laparoscopic appendicitis(which is a bloodless surgery) is around 1 to 1.5m. Now Caesarean Section and abdominal myomectomy are very bloody ops. Myomectomy is surgical removal of fibroids. Only certain fibroids can be removed by a laparoscopic myomectomy and they have to be small. So if the fibroids are large, numerous or deeply embedded in the uterus, then an abdominal myomectomy may be necessary. So if you are a Witness, what do u do?
Another point Witnesses get it wrong is the blood substitutes they use like haemacel etc. Now these substances don't replace blood and they are damn costly. About 50k for a pint, while a pint of blood is around 5k. Imagine a patient that needs 3 pints… Worse still, if they are bleeding profusely from say big lacerations and stab wounds, haemacel and other subs are plain useless. U need blood
Now we arrive at the issue of transfusion reaction. Like I pointed out earlier, I have been in practice for circa 16 years, and have been transfusing patients and I haven't seen 1 fatal reaction. Just one febrile reaction which I gave a shot of hydrocort, ran some saline and still recommenced the transfusion later which completed peacefully. My point… blood transfusion reactions are getting less and less troublesome. It's even less troublesome now we have better screening techniques and better drugs to counter them if they do happen
Thanks for attending my Ted talk, sirs

jaephoenix:

I didn’t want to contribute to this for fear of this mad spamb9t restricting my account. But I'll chip in
I am a Physician of 16 years experience. Blood transfusion is a life saver. Reason why hospitals all over the world go for blood drives. Reason why there are blood banks globally. So I don't know where Max got his narrative that health workers abhor transfusions
Now bloodless surgeries are safe, no doubt, but guess what? They don't apply to all surgeries, they are very expensive and not every surgeon can operate that way. We doctors try as much as possible to reduce blood loss during ops but sometimes it doesn't work out that way, and u end up with angry bleeders. So what do u do? Not many Nigerians can afford minimally invasive procedures. Example, open appendicitis is circa 50k to 250k but laparoscopic appendicitis(which is a bloodless surgery) is around 1 to 1.5m. Now Caesarean Section and abdominal myomectomy are very bloody ops. Myomectomy is surgical removal of fibroids. Only certain fibroids can be removed by a laparoscopic myomectomy and they have to be small. So if the fibroids are large, numerous or deeply embedded in the uterus, then an abdominal myomectomy may be necessary. So if you are a Witness, what do u do?
Another point Witnesses get it wrong is the blood substitutes they use like haemacel etc. Now these substances don't replace blood and they are damn costly. About 50k for a pint, while a pint of blood is around 5k. Imagine a patient that needs 3 pints… Worse still, if they are bleeding profusely from say big lacerations and stab wounds, haemacel and other subs are plain useless. U need blood
Now we arrive at the issue of transfusion reaction. Like I pointed out earlier, I have been in practice for circa 16 years, and have been transfusing patients and I haven't seen 1 fatal reaction. Just one febrile reaction which I gave a shot of hydrocort, ran some saline and still recommenced the transfusion later which completed peacefully. My point… blood transfusion reactions are getting less and less troublesome. It's even less troublesome now we have better screening techniques and better drugs to counter them if they do happen
Thanks for attending my Ted talk, sirs

jaephoenix:

I didn’t want to contribute to this for fear of this mad spamb9t restricting my account. But I'll chip in
I am a Physician of 16 years experience. Blood transfusion is a life saver. Reason why hospitals all over the world go for blood drives. Reason why there are blood banks globally. So I don't know where Max got his narrative that health workers abhor transfusions
Now bloodless surgeries are safe, no doubt, but guess what? They don't apply to all surgeries, they are very expensive and not every surgeon can operate that way. We doctors try as much as possible to reduce blood loss during ops but sometimes it doesn't work out that way, and u end up with angry bleeders. So what do u do? Not many Nigerians can afford minimally invasive procedures. Example, open appendicitis is circa 50k to 250k but laparoscopic appendicitis(which is a bloodless surgery) is around 1 to 1.5m. Now Caesarean Section and abdominal myomectomy are very bloody ops. Myomectomy is surgical removal of fibroids. Only certain fibroids can be removed by a laparoscopic myomectomy and they have to be small. So if the fibroids are large, numerous or deeply embedded in the uterus, then an abdominal myomectomy may be necessary. So if you are a Witness, what do u do?
Another point Witnesses get it wrong is the blood substitutes they use like haemacel etc. Now these substances don't replace blood and they are damn costly. About 50k for a pint, while a pint of blood is around 5k. Imagine a patient that needs 3 pints… Worse still, if they are bleeding profusely from say big lacerations and stab wounds, haemacel and other subs are plain useless. U need blood
Now we arrive at the issue of transfusion reaction. Like I pointed out earlier, I have been in practice for circa 16 years, and have been transfusing patients and I haven't seen 1 fatal reaction. Just one febrile reaction which I gave a shot of hydrocort, ran some saline and still recommenced the transfusion later which completed peacefully. My point… blood transfusion reactions are getting less and less troublesome. It's even less troublesome now we have better screening techniques and better drugs to counter them if they do happen
Thanks for attending my Ted talk, sirs

johnw47:



Ecclesiastes 7:6
For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, so is the laughter of the fool



Act 15:29  that you abstain from things sacrificed to idols and from blood and from things strangled and from fornication; if you keep yourselves free from such things, you will do well. Farewell. 

the verse is against the eating of animal blood for nourshment, as seen from other bible verses

to say the verse is against transfusion of blood which saves life, is adding to God's word, which you false jw's are good at doing:

Deu 12:32  "Whatever I command you, you shall be careful to do; you shall not add to nor take away from it

refusing to allow a procedure to save a life, is akin to murder:

Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil,
and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning,
and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him.
Whenever he speaks a lie, that is his natural way of speaking,
for he is a liar and the father of lies.